What's the problem? Russian space ships are flying on a regular basis, much cheaper than US's ones, and sure much safier.
Budget deficit? No problem, US technologies are unefficient and the most expensive around the world anyway. Just outsource the space exploration business to Russia, as it's already done with other US industries already outsourced to Mexica and China. Space-tech outsourcing is good for US budget, for Russian economy and for saved lifes of crews.
With dialup modem we squized every bit in UDP packets. Now we don't count how much we do spent on MIME ecoding inside XML messages full of namespacing tags.
Wait until you brain-computer interface will get higher speed and see how soon will you migrate to ontological querying in RDF format.
Properly installed linux do not need any external firewall. First, good hands have closed all holes already anyway. Second, iptables are in the kernel, what other firewall do you need?
My brains do not have any holes (I hope) - I do not answer any inproper questions. And I can recognize suspicious questions too.
But I guess that users of Microsoft brains might keep having problems. I wish them good patching:)
The conference is put on by volunteers and is still seeking sponsorship
They should call Zope corporation. I guess if they will promise to present at the conference the migration way from PHP to Zope then Zope Corp may pay something for it! And they can do it simultaniously with other web tech vendors: Microsoft (.Net), Sun (EJB).
From now on please stop flaming about OS/distros. Do you like your favorite distro? Fine - write your own worm that will spread your distros across the world.
Imagine if Microsoft will play this game. Or is it preparing for it already?..
The fact that someone in another country can do the same job for cheaper due to a lower cost of living does not make them more productive.
They can do more job (or better job) for the same amount of money. That what counts.
I'm complaining about rich executives increasing the number of unemployed domestic workers to save a quick buck to improve their personal bank accounts. I don't care how you spin, I will never consider that good for the local economy.
I don't care how you spin, but I consider it good for the global economy. By the way, the further integration of your country into a global market is also for the best interests of your economy, which certainly need a help, which cannot come from inside.
I fail to see how having money sitting in investments helps create jobs for the unemployed.
The recent unemployment problem started when after dot-com bubble collapsed investors did not re-invest back to the economy - they re-invested to gold, which is exactly equal to sitting on money. Now they are bringing money (still slowly) back to the market and new investments create new job places.
What exactly should I be paying back, and to whom?
Americans are living too good comparing to people in other countries. That's why I don't feel sorry for them when their job is utsourced overseas.
My complaints are 100% against the people in my country removing the jobs from my local economy.
They are not living in your local economy - they live in the global economy. So do you, no matter do you dream about living still in your local economy or not.
Our national debt is skyrocketing.
Pretty logical and predictable consequenses of spending billions on catching a terrorrist # 1, who is still free anyway, and on seeking mass-distruction weapons in the country where it was obviously destroyed a decade ago. Think more how to control your crazy goverment, not how to control people talented in business.
The only difference is the overseas programmer can afford to do the same work (as in comparable productivity) for 1/10 the pay as I can.
It's a big difference. But thanks to people like Fiorina, this difference will get smaller over the time. No matter do you like it or not.
They're sitting on it. They're not using it to start new small companies to hire the millions of unemployed. They're not stimulating anything but they're bank accounts.
No wonder you have problem with your employment - your education (at least where it comes to general knowledge about economy) is close to zero.
Capitalists today never (extremely rarely) sit on money. A capitalst either saves some cash in the bank (it's considered as returned to the economy as bank invests them anyway), or invests it in investment funds (same effect as with banks, even more efficient), or invests it directly in private startups (which is even more effient return to the economy), or spends it as a consumer (which is good also), or donate some money (which is good again).
There is [wrong with paying some overseas people] when it comes at the cost of domestic workers
Historically your goverment and corporations of your country were stealing money directly or indirectly from those colonies, which are trying to develop their economies now. That's why today you still live better than people in those countries. Way much better. I guess it's time for you to pay back. It's shame for you to complain of changing your car to something cheaper while people in India a starving without food.
When workers of all nations have true freedom to live and work in whatever country they choose, then I'll stop being pissed off
Don't waste your time and make a pressure on your goverment to open doors wider. There is no way to improve the situation by complaining and closing doors.
it's wrong that people can move to my country and compete for the same jobs when I can't move to theirs.
Despite previous/. discussions I saw many Americans and Europians working in India, China, Brasilia and Russia. Don't trust everything you read on/. - go and get job there if you want to.
Nobody takes your livehood from, but you. Get less lazy and more smart/effcient - and get better job.
... so that you can live your own pockets with a few more millions
I guess those few millions will be used back in the economy. What's wrong with that?
... and pay some overseas people
IMHO nothing wrong with that per se.
... a wage that will never allow them to buy all these products your company is selling.
You're wrong here: prices for same things in developing countries are way bellow of American (or Europian) domestic ones. That makes a pressure on American and Europian importers to drop their prices too. And guess what, they drop their prices to match local product prices, as well as to match paying capabilities of a local consuming market. Of course not completely match. Some of thme drop more, some less. But even if they wouldn't drop it's ok - employees of outsourced jobs have a wage still higher than same employees of local companies. And that makes a pressure on local employers to increase a wage too.
So, in a long term developing countries develop faster using outsourced jobs. But guess what, they deveop faster a consumer market capable to buy more staff from US and Europe. So it is a good thing.
I advise you to stop complaining about outsourcing. It's a reality. Even without outsourcing a structure of a local job market changes drammatically every decade. If you won't adapt you will have more chances to complain about your livehood. Today you complain about outsourcing, Two decades ago about computers getting job from you. Four or five decades ago you would have complained about machibes and so on.
If the will merge Ximian with Suse into Simian, then they'll have a problem to name their own company: should they call it Knovell or Gnovell after that? Well, as for the new user-friendly desktop, I am sure they'll call it Knome:)
and generation zero being the web---remember when MP3s were traded through web pages?
I still use web and only web to keep my MP3 collection with songs I like. Everything is legal: goto Google and get what you want without any suspicions from stupid RIAA:)
I think Microsoft has much more money, and yes, they use Linux for their firewalls. And I doubt that MIcrosoft has cleaned their installed linux kernels from a stolen SCO code.
many technically undereducated editors use phrase "common kernel" instead of "common set of components". They know nothing about OS and perhaps don't know that OS has a kernel. Forgive them.
Most of apps do need fast CPU. They wait for the user input. But when they need a fast CPU then it's usually called a server. And when the server needs a performance the commodity is not a key-factor anymore. A decision-maker may go from Intel to other hardware vendors.
That's why the real test should be: Python/Linux vs Perl/Linux vs Tcl/Linux vs GCC/Linux vs OCAML/Linux vs Erlang/Linux vs Haskell/Linux vs whatever-is-available-in-source-for-linux.
In that case you can run the test on PIII, Athlon, P4, G3, G4, G5, USII, UIII etc - wherever linux is ported. Then you can see how different hardware helps to performance. And you could see how different compilers utilize thos hardware resources.
A study being published today in Nature predicts that global warming will doom 15 to 37 percent of plants and animals to extinction by 2050
Any chance that the human kind is among those 15-37 percent? Because that would solve everything. At least for awhile - until next inteligent parasite would come.
Yeah, it's not perfectly safe. I (and I'm sure many others) would be willing to take the risk, though.
Of course. Many politicians are willing to take the risk of sending people to the orbit too. The question is - are you willing to take a risk of going yourself?
Personally I would like to go as I am going to die soon anyway. But in general I thing the program must be explained in much more details of potential benefits for the society. Right now the proposed program (in terms its reasons) reminds me sending soldiers to Iraq.
True for all earth species. Almost all. Expect few parasites, like humans and virii. Humans survive with techs, a virius survives as it doesn't breath anyway.
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Why M$?
Many Python/Perl/Tcl developers hate java too - they abandoned Java because it's too slow for the rapid development, but it hits them back as many managers are too blind and still stick to Java in their projects.
Another camp that historically hate Java (as well as they hate C and C++) is an elite of functional programmers who develop on Lisp, ML, Haskell and Erlang. They hate procedural/imperative languages for being semantically buggy.
And of course c and C++ developers hate Java for lost performance of JVM.
All three groups in someplaces/sometimes use M$OS, but in generally they are more specific for Unix/Linux. Especially first two groups.
Here's an experiment: put a white sheet of paper on a table. Turn on a red light. What color does the paper look? Does it turn whiter if you get closer to it?
Sun is white, and marsian dust clouds are transparent enough - they don't change the lign frequency, they just reflect a fraction of % of the light adding a VERY SMALL AMOUNT of red.
Well, "for you" isn't the measurement they used, apparently.
At some point I was studing athmosphere phisics back in University. Enough to make logical estimations about the subject.
Plus in mountains I was in the middle of a big red smoke cloud from military signalling grenade. All our equipment was still in the original color, just a LITTLE BIT changed. While on those pictures i see all equipment as it is under a MONOCHROME red lamp.
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What's the problem? Russian space ships are flying on a regular basis, much cheaper than US's ones, and sure much safier. Budget deficit? No problem, US technologies are unefficient and the most expensive around the world anyway. Just outsource the space exploration business to Russia, as it's already done with other US industries already outsourced to Mexica and China. Space-tech outsourcing is good for US budget, for Russian economy and for saved lifes of crews.
Of course. The more US spends on space research is the less they have left to spend on wars against other countries.
Wait until you brain-computer interface will get higher speed and see how soon will you migrate to ontological querying in RDF format.
My brains do not have any holes (I hope) - I do not answer any inproper questions. And I can recognize suspicious questions too.
But I guess that users of Microsoft brains might keep having problems. I wish them good patching :)
They should call Zope corporation. I guess if they will promise to present at the conference the migration way from PHP to Zope then Zope Corp may pay something for it! And they can do it simultaniously with other web tech vendors: Microsoft (.Net), Sun (EJB).
Imagine if Microsoft will play this game. Or is it preparing for it already?..
They can do more job (or better job) for the same amount of money. That what counts.
I'm complaining about rich executives increasing the number of unemployed domestic workers to save a quick buck to improve their personal bank accounts. I don't care how you spin, I will never consider that good for the local economy.
I don't care how you spin, but I consider it good for the global economy. By the way, the further integration of your country into a global market is also for the best interests of your economy, which certainly need a help, which cannot come from inside.
I fail to see how having money sitting in investments helps create jobs for the unemployed.
The recent unemployment problem started when after dot-com bubble collapsed investors did not re-invest back to the economy - they re-invested to gold, which is exactly equal to sitting on money. Now they are bringing money (still slowly) back to the market and new investments create new job places.
What exactly should I be paying back, and to whom?
Americans are living too good comparing to people in other countries. That's why I don't feel sorry for them when their job is utsourced overseas.
My complaints are 100% against the people in my country removing the jobs from my local economy.
They are not living in your local economy - they live in the global economy. So do you, no matter do you dream about living still in your local economy or not.
Our national debt is skyrocketing.
Pretty logical and predictable consequenses of spending billions on catching a terrorrist # 1, who is still free anyway, and on seeking mass-distruction weapons in the country where it was obviously destroyed a decade ago. Think more how to control your crazy goverment, not how to control people talented in business.
It's a big difference. But thanks to people like Fiorina, this difference will get smaller over the time. No matter do you like it or not.
They're sitting on it. They're not using it to start new small companies to hire the millions of unemployed. They're not stimulating anything but they're bank accounts.
No wonder you have problem with your employment - your education (at least where it comes to general knowledge about economy) is close to zero.
Capitalists today never (extremely rarely) sit on money. A capitalst either saves some cash in the bank (it's considered as returned to the economy as bank invests them anyway), or invests it in investment funds (same effect as with banks, even more efficient), or invests it directly in private startups (which is even more effient return to the economy), or spends it as a consumer (which is good also), or donate some money (which is good again).
There is [wrong with paying some overseas people] when it comes at the cost of domestic workers
Historically your goverment and corporations of your country were stealing money directly or indirectly from those colonies, which are trying to develop their economies now. That's why today you still live better than people in those countries. Way much better. I guess it's time for you to pay back. It's shame for you to complain of changing your car to something cheaper while people in India a starving without food.
When workers of all nations have true freedom to live and work in whatever country they choose, then I'll stop being pissed off
Don't waste your time and make a pressure on your goverment to open doors wider. There is no way to improve the situation by complaining and closing doors.
it's wrong that people can move to my country and compete for the same jobs when I can't move to theirs.
Despite previous /. discussions I saw many Americans and Europians working in India, China, Brasilia and Russia. Don't trust everything you read on /. - go and get job there if you want to.
Nobody takes your livehood from, but you. Get less lazy and more smart/effcient - and get better job.
I guess those few millions will be used back in the economy. What's wrong with that?
IMHO nothing wrong with that per se.
You're wrong here: prices for same things in developing countries are way bellow of American (or Europian) domestic ones. That makes a pressure on American and Europian importers to drop their prices too. And guess what, they drop their prices to match local product prices, as well as to match paying capabilities of a local consuming market. Of course not completely match. Some of thme drop more, some less. But even if they wouldn't drop it's ok - employees of outsourced jobs have a wage still higher than same employees of local companies. And that makes a pressure on local employers to increase a wage too.
So, in a long term developing countries develop faster using outsourced jobs. But guess what, they deveop faster a consumer market capable to buy more staff from US and Europe. So it is a good thing.
I advise you to stop complaining about outsourcing. It's a reality. Even without outsourcing a structure of a local job market changes drammatically every decade. If you won't adapt you will have more chances to complain about your livehood. Today you complain about outsourcing, Two decades ago about computers getting job from you. Four or five decades ago you would have complained about machibes and so on.
Get over it. Think what you can do to adapt.
If the will merge Ximian with Suse into Simian, then they'll have a problem to name their own company: should they call it Knovell or Gnovell after that? Well, as for the new user-friendly desktop, I am sure they'll call it Knome :)
For that I prefer Haskell, or at least ML.
Supports fairly optimized compilation to native code.
Even more reason to prefer OCAML.
I still use web and only web to keep my MP3 collection with songs I like. Everything is legal: goto Google and get what you want without any suspicions from stupid RIAA :)
I think Microsoft has much more money, and yes, they use Linux for their firewalls. And I doubt that MIcrosoft has cleaned their installed linux kernels from a stolen SCO code.
KDOME - Kommon Desktop Object-Mixed Environment
many technically undereducated editors use phrase "common kernel" instead of "common set of components". They know nothing about OS and perhaps don't know that OS has a kernel. Forgive them.
That's why the real test should be: Python/Linux vs Perl/Linux vs Tcl/Linux vs GCC/Linux vs OCAML/Linux vs Erlang/Linux vs Haskell/Linux vs whatever-is-available-in-source-for-linux.
In that case you can run the test on PIII, Athlon, P4, G3, G4, G5, USII, UIII etc - wherever linux is ported. Then you can see how different hardware helps to performance. And you could see how different compilers utilize thos hardware resources.
Any chance that the human kind is among those 15-37 percent? Because that would solve everything. At least for awhile - until next inteligent parasite would come.
Of course. Many politicians are willing to take the risk of sending people to the orbit too. The question is - are you willing to take a risk of going yourself?
Personally I would like to go as I am going to die soon anyway. But in general I thing the program must be explained in much more details of potential benefits for the society. Right now the proposed program (in terms its reasons) reminds me sending soldiers to Iraq.
True for all earth species. Almost all. Expect few parasites, like humans and virii. Humans survive with techs, a virius survives as it doesn't breath anyway.
We discuss here Gimp-2.0 remember?
The answer to the grand-parent - no win32 gimp-2.0 available yet - unless you compile it and debug it yourself :)
Any alive pictures?
Many Python/Perl/Tcl developers hate java too - they abandoned Java because it's too slow for the rapid development, but it hits them back as many managers are too blind and still stick to Java in their projects.
Another camp that historically hate Java (as well as they hate C and C++) is an elite of functional programmers who develop on Lisp, ML, Haskell and Erlang. They hate procedural/imperative languages for being semantically buggy.
And of course c and C++ developers hate Java for lost performance of JVM.
All three groups in someplaces/sometimes use M$OS, but in generally they are more specific for Unix/Linux. Especially first two groups.
Agaian skylight can change the color like 1%, or 5% atop, but not 100%
Sun is white, and marsian dust clouds are transparent enough - they don't change the lign frequency, they just reflect a fraction of % of the light adding a VERY SMALL AMOUNT of red.
Well, "for you" isn't the measurement they used, apparently.
At some point I was studing athmosphere phisics back in University. Enough to make logical estimations about the subject.
Plus in mountains I was in the middle of a big red smoke cloud from military signalling grenade. All our equipment was still in the original color, just a LITTLE BIT changed. While on those pictures i see all equipment as it is under a MONOCHROME red lamp.