The whole point of ther re-release is to remove the "hot Coffee" code. There will be no "replacement mod", as there will be (according to TakeTwo) no AO content on the disk.
It _may_ be possible for some enterprising young hacker to _add_ content to the game, or produce their own mini-game with new content, but that is a different kettle of monkeys.
Will this be the first of many? How many other games have this content in? And are sold as non-AO? And have sales-figures to match GTA? Maybe a few less-than-reputable (note: this does not mean small.) games companies may put offensive content in, purely to publices the removal of it, but this will be a minority.
Droid 1: Hey, whats all this buzz about hot coffee? It's all over the papers. Droid 2: Its a part of GTA they pulled for being rude. Droid 1: Can we do that? We could use the publicity. Droid 2: Well, our games have no hidden offensive content... Droid 1: I'll talk to the programming team.
Anyone who has been visiting/. frequently knows that no-one reads the articles. Now we can dispense with readng the summary. And knowing the title to be misleading and innaccurate, we can dispense with tat, too. Soon we will have a page full of nicely formatted filler text and a forum of flamewars regarding how the filler text supports/unfairly dismisses thier favourite OS/application/background colour.
Or, in Bizaarro World, the editors might do thier job. Submitters may read their own articles/submissions.
Not that we care. We don't read them anyway.
My OS can beaet up your OS. My OS was in the army.
Hmmm... not accused of copyright infringement, but accused of Digital Millenium COPYRIGHT Act infringemnt? What is the DMCA for? To protect against copyright infringements?
I do not underdstand how one can infringe the DMCA without infringing copyright.
Agreed, this is not a "viable business solition", it is a proof-of-concept. They actually CAN produce rollable screens. As mentioned elsewhere, the car-eqwuivalent of this would be an old bone-shaker with soot churning out all over, no suspension, breaking down every 5 minutes and requiring an expert (preferably the guy who built it) to do any repairs. Soon (2-5 yrs), we will have the "finished" versions, with nice, bright, readable screens, maybe bigger and/or scalable. I want one, but I will wait until they let it out of the lab. (And remembering other products I have bought, will probably wait for the "Really finished", rather than buy the public beta, erm, I mean Release 1.0 Version)
As I see it, buying a one-off e-book reader and then being able to download large amounts of texts on to it is a good thing. Each e-book should be cheap (no dead-trees needed), eco-freindly (no dead trees needed) and once on my device, easy to manipulate, such as searching for certain text/images.
As to your fear for content-control, this is where peope like GNU, FSF and EFF step in. We already have GPL (and LGPL and BSD etc) software, we shall continue to have open literature.
When I want to read a new book, I can just transfer it across to my reader. If my reader's memory-core becomes full, wipe off some books (making sure I still have copies on my homserver) and load up the new ones.
Yes, the Big Corps will attempt to lock down all of their titles with DRM, but not all authors will want this and will release independantly (such as is happening with music).
As with music, all the good stuff is independant anyway, with the mass-market sucking up mass-produced tripe. The RIAA (and impending WIAA (Writing Industry Ass. of America) will not touch quality work with a barge pole.
There are many advantages to e-books. Searching, backup, accesibility (both for differing media types for disabled people, and for accesing from anywhere. Forget your book? Phone home, log into home server and download copy into a friend's reader)
Yes, there may still be a place for dead tree books, but they are not the ONLY way.
DVD-burners are ESSENTIAL for a gaming system, if only for backing up your profile, updates, mods. Sure, you can do without the £50 expense if you have a seperate system on the network to dump your backups to. How does "productivity" get better performance from "built-in RAM" than games do? (If my "productivity" is farming rare itmes from a game, they start to look pretty similar)
And if you think the 256 RAM in a DELL is enough to run todays FPS games, you have LOW standards.
The point I was trying to make is that just because a person does two things does not mean that one causes the other. (Or that the other causes the one).
By showing the fallacy of one assumption, it reveals the fallacy of the other. The study that the summary refers to shows no causality between legally obtaining music and illegally obtaining music. It shows that there are a number of people who do both. (or at least say they do).
Yes, I'm not sure that dictating ones code in ASL (or UKSL here) would be very productive! Why not type it out! hehehe/me tries signing; [html] [head]
[link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css" type="text/css"]
[title]My Web Page[/title] [/head] [body] Hello World [/body] [/html]/me heads for hospital with dislocated fingers!
(hmmm.... just as an aside - IRC commands start with / while/in html means 'end'.)
I did read once that RMS broke his arm and could not type - he dictated his code to a colleague who entered it. He said it was a very productive time, as he no longer had to work on actually typing, just thinking on what to put and saying it. (Can't recall whether it was vi or emacs - i'm sure there are people with too much time who can find out, and suggest phonetics for this.).
" I guess the RIAA never saw the study that says that file sharers spent more money buying music online than those who don't share music at all."
You mean the study that showed that the people who buy music are more likely to commit copyright infringements than people who do not buy music? Showing that the RIAA are RIGHT to sue their customers, as it is their customers who are ripping them off?
And people who like movies are not only more likely to buy movies, but also more likely to illegally obtain movies than people who do not like movies.
Well, gosh!
Some numbers showing a correleation between people who legally buy music and people who illegally obtain music DOES NOT mean that buying music causes piracy. Nor does it show that piracy causes music sales. It shows that there is an overlap of "people who legally buy music" and "people who illegally obtain music". Some people draw one set of conclusions, other people draw another set. The study is proof of neither.
And also, IMHO, when people are asked why they knowingly break the law, they will try to come up with a justification, even if they know it to be untrue. "Do you illegally download music? "yes" Do you buy music?" "Erm... oh, yes... erm... lots... erm... in fact, downloading makes me buy more music... erm, yes, thats it. Please don't sue me!"
Can we get past the idea that because a study shows that green cars are involved in more accidents that all green cars are inherently unsafe to drive? You know it's bollox, i know it's bollox, so lets drop it, alright?
"you shall reimburse Macromedia for all reasonable expenses related to such audit."
The cost of the audit is nothing to do with the price of the software. The cost of the audit is the amount it costs to send someone round to your house and scan your PC for Flash.
Until recently (In the UK) there has not been much in the way of TV commercials for Windows/Microsoft. I agree that one of the major advantages Windows has at the moment, in terms of what OS the mass market will buy, is its already-large user base. People will continue to buy Windows because: 1) They are familiar with it 2) all their friends use it. 3) They know someone who can fix it 4) They are familiar with the programs they use on it.
A lot of geeks seem to miss out on the fact that moving to Linux is a MAJOR step for someone who knows a little about Windows. Often they have spent many hours of heartache trying to remember where the "change desktop wallpaper" button is, and were really prooud to help their frinds find it. If it changes, they will again be lost.
For people who have never really used a computer, Linux is just as easy/hard to learn as Windows, and these are the epeople we should be getting interested in Linux. Joe (I've been using Windows for 5 years but can't back up my data to CD) sixpack will be the hardest to switch.
Applies to computers, too. I know plenty of hackers (white-hat for the main...) who not only assume, but argue ferociously on two points: 1) If it is not locked, I am inherently invited in.
2) A closed door is an insult, a locked door an outrage.
They don't seem so zealous of me appearing in their bedroom at 3am.
"sharers. The catch is that Hollywood is using the log files off Bit Torrent sites like Suprnova and LokiTorrent."
No They are not.
FROM THE ARTICLE: "The group previously said in February that a Texas court had ordered that the server logs of one big site, called LokiTorrent, be turned over to Hollywood investigators. An MPAA spokeswoman said that none of Thursday's suits were related to that action, however."
When even the submitters don't read the article, and the editors don't check it AT ALL, then we know this is no longer "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters", but is now "Sensationalist Lies, Innaccurate Rubbish".
In a similar manner to UK banning the sale of large numbers (20+) asprin tablets per day, people can still go around each chemist and buy 20 from each one. but they generally don't. The people who used to store 100+ asprins now are down to 40ish.
The determined will ALWAYS find a way round things, but the casual players will just accept it.
"They DISPLAY targeted ads exactly like google web search does, based on the content of the mails you receive. The mail messages themselves are totally unaltered" OK, that helps. Thanks.
"this analysis is completely automatic so your privacy isn't breached." Is any of this info stored? If google keep a database of who they advertised to, and what keywords they hit, (in private emails) then privacy IS breached.
Not saying they DO keep this info, just that I don;t know if they do or not.
Doesn't GMail already put spam into your emails? I have never used (or been invited to use... *sniff*...) a gmail account, but seem to remember news about them reading your mail and putting adverts in them?
" illegal " and "will not happen" are two VERY different things. Are you trying to suggest that a Corporation would never do anything illegal? Or just that Google never would? Or just, coincidentally, both are true?
Usual Slashdot 'editor' skills. Google article has its title changed (to "Better reflect the facts" or "Due to misinterpretations in the levels of accuracy" or "no-one checked the article."). 1TB DVD recorder article still sys it is a 1TB DVD recorder.
"If someone had checked the blog and gmail.com before the post was put live" - you mean the journaists and editors doing their job? 1) You must be new here. 2) Slashdot: News for no-one. Stuff thats Wrong. 3) Only old people complain about innacurate titles. 4) Imagine a cluster of these editors (no need to imagine - check out the nearest bar) 5) Slashcode is shit and still doesn;t work with Firefox. 6) In Soviet Russia Editors actually do their job. 7) ??? 8) Profit.
I bet I missed something about hot grits down someones pants.
You think they have canecelled/terminated the account? After reading a lot of reports (here and elsewhere), I would advise checking the bank statements for the next few months, just to be sure. I'm sure the AoL Operators are aware of hospices that have internet connections.
"what will probably be the last computer RPG with a real story."
I very much doubt that.
I know FPS and MMORPG are becoeming very popular, but there are a lot of people out there who play games BECAUSE of the story line. As more modable games come out, the players will write their own stories, and release them on servers for others to play. This is where games like The Sims come out on top- creative people can build worlds, tell stories via computer games without having to be coders. So long as some geeks are writing engines, there will be artists writing content.
Slashdot Mirror
well, I hope he would do a better job of that than he made of the web-page!
The whole point of ther re-release is to remove the "hot Coffee" code.
There will be no "replacement mod", as there will be (according to TakeTwo) no AO content on the disk.
It _may_ be possible for some enterprising young hacker to _add_ content to the game, or produce their own mini-game with new content, but that is a different kettle of monkeys.
Will this be the first of many? How many other games have this content in? And are sold as non-AO? And have sales-figures to match GTA?
Maybe a few less-than-reputable (note: this does not mean small.) games companies may put offensive content in, purely to publices the removal of it, but this will be a minority.
Droid 1: Hey, whats all this buzz about hot coffee? It's all over the papers.
Droid 2: Its a part of GTA they pulled for being rude.
Droid 1: Can we do that? We could use the publicity.
Droid 2: Well, our games have no hidden offensive content...
Droid 1: I'll talk to the programming team.
Anyone who has been visiting /. frequently knows that no-one reads the articles.
Now we can dispense with readng the summary.
And knowing the title to be misleading and innaccurate, we can dispense with tat, too.
Soon we will have a page full of nicely formatted filler text and a forum of flamewars regarding how the filler text supports/unfairly dismisses thier favourite OS/application/background colour.
Or, in Bizaarro World, the editors might do thier job. Submitters may read their own articles/submissions.
Not that we care. We don't read them anyway.
My OS can beaet up your OS.
My OS was in the army.
" They were not accused of copyright infingment"
... not accused of copyright infringement, but accused of Digital Millenium COPYRIGHT Act infringemnt?
"It is a DCMA violation"
Hmmm
What is the DMCA for? To protect against copyright infringements?
I do not underdstand how one can infringe the DMCA without infringing copyright.
Agreed, this is not a "viable business solition", it is a proof-of-concept. They actually CAN produce rollable screens.
As mentioned elsewhere, the car-eqwuivalent of this would be an old bone-shaker with soot churning out all over, no suspension, breaking down every 5 minutes and requiring an expert (preferably the guy who built it) to do any repairs.
Soon (2-5 yrs), we will have the "finished" versions, with nice, bright, readable screens, maybe bigger and/or scalable.
I want one, but I will wait until they let it out of the lab. (And remembering other products I have bought, will probably wait for the "Really finished", rather than buy the public beta, erm, I mean Release 1.0 Version)
As I see it, buying a one-off e-book reader and then being able to download large amounts of texts on to it is a good thing.
Each e-book should be cheap (no dead-trees needed), eco-freindly (no dead trees needed) and once on my device, easy to manipulate, such as searching for certain text/images.
As to your fear for content-control, this is where peope like GNU, FSF and EFF step in. We already have GPL (and LGPL and BSD etc) software, we shall continue to have open literature.
When I want to read a new book, I can just transfer it across to my reader. If my reader's memory-core becomes full, wipe off some books (making sure I still have copies on my homserver) and load up the new ones.
Yes, the Big Corps will attempt to lock down all of their titles with DRM, but not all authors will want this and will release independantly (such as is happening with music).
As with music, all the good stuff is independant anyway, with the mass-market sucking up mass-produced tripe. The RIAA (and impending WIAA (Writing Industry Ass. of America) will not touch quality work with a barge pole.
There are many advantages to e-books. Searching, backup, accesibility (both for differing media types for disabled people, and for accesing from anywhere. Forget your book? Phone home, log into home server and download copy into a friend's reader)
Yes, there may still be a place for dead tree books, but they are not the ONLY way.
What is "built-in RAM"?
DVD-burners are ESSENTIAL for a gaming system, if only for backing up your profile, updates, mods.
Sure, you can do without the £50 expense if you have a seperate system on the network to dump your backups to.
How does "productivity" get better performance from "built-in RAM" than games do?
(If my "productivity" is farming rare itmes from a game, they start to look pretty similar)
And if you think the 256 RAM in a DELL is enough to run todays FPS games, you have LOW standards.
What I could not find in the article is a price for the "High-End " system they are comparing it against.
The point I was trying to make is that just because a person does two things does not mean that one causes the other. (Or that the other causes the one).
By showing the fallacy of one assumption, it reveals the fallacy of the other.
The study that the summary refers to shows no causality between legally obtaining music and illegally obtaining music. It shows that there are a number of people who do both. (or at least say they do).
Understand now?
Yes, I'm not sure that dictating ones code in ASL (or UKSL here) would be very productive! Why not type it out! hehehe /me tries signing; /me heads for hospital with dislocated fingers!
.... just as an aside - IRC commands start with / while /in html means 'end'.)
[html]
[head]
[link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css" type="text/css"]
[title]My Web Page[/title]
[/head]
[body]
Hello World
[/body]
[/html]
(hmmm
I did read once that RMS broke his arm and could not type - he dictated his code to a colleague who entered it. He said it was a very productive time, as he no longer had to work on actually typing, just thinking on what to put and saying it. (Can't recall whether it was vi or emacs - i'm sure there are people with too much time who can find out, and suggest phonetics for this.).
" I guess the RIAA never saw the study that says that file sharers spent more money buying music online than those who don't share music at all."
... oh, yes ... erm ... lots ... erm ... in fact, downloading makes me buy more music ... erm, yes, thats it. Please don't sue me!"
You mean the study that showed that the people who buy music are more likely to commit copyright infringements than people who do not buy music? Showing that the RIAA are RIGHT to sue their customers, as it is their customers who are ripping them off?
And people who like movies are not only more likely to buy movies, but also more likely to illegally obtain movies than people who do not like movies.
Well, gosh!
Some numbers showing a correleation between people who legally buy music and people who illegally obtain music DOES NOT mean that buying music causes piracy. Nor does it show that piracy causes music sales.
It shows that there is an overlap of "people who legally buy music" and "people who illegally obtain music". Some people draw one set of conclusions, other people draw another set. The study is proof of neither.
And also, IMHO, when people are asked why they knowingly break the law, they will try to come up with a justification, even if they know it to be untrue.
"Do you illegally download music?
"yes"
Do you buy music?"
"Erm
Can we get past the idea that because a study shows that green cars are involved in more accidents that all green cars are inherently unsafe to drive?
You know it's bollox, i know it's bollox, so lets drop it, alright?
"you shall reimburse Macromedia for all reasonable expenses related to such audit."
The cost of the audit is nothing to do with the price of the software.
The cost of the audit is the amount it costs to send someone round to your house and scan your PC for Flash.
Until recently (In the UK) there has not been much in the way of TV commercials for Windows/Microsoft.
I agree that one of the major advantages Windows has at the moment, in terms of what OS the mass market will buy, is its already-large user base.
People will continue to buy Windows because:
1) They are familiar with it
2) all their friends use it.
3) They know someone who can fix it
4) They are familiar with the programs they use on it.
A lot of geeks seem to miss out on the fact that moving to Linux is a MAJOR step for someone who knows a little about Windows.
Often they have spent many hours of heartache trying to remember where the "change desktop wallpaper" button is, and were really prooud to help their frinds find it. If it changes, they will again be lost.
For people who have never really used a computer, Linux is just as easy/hard to learn as Windows, and these are the epeople we should be getting interested in Linux.
Joe (I've been using Windows for 5 years but can't back up my data to CD) sixpack will be the hardest to switch.
Applies to computers, too. I know plenty of hackers (white-hat for the main...) who not only assume, but argue ferociously on two points:
1) If it is not locked, I am inherently invited in.
2) A closed door is an insult, a locked door an outrage.
They don't seem so zealous of me appearing in their bedroom at 3am.
At least, I hope you were trying to be funny. I laughed. 8o)
More fun from the Department Of Redundancy Department, and the fun they supply.
"sharers. The catch is that Hollywood is using the log files off Bit Torrent sites like Suprnova and LokiTorrent."
No They are not.
FROM THE ARTICLE:
"The group previously said in February that a Texas court had ordered that the server logs of one big site, called LokiTorrent, be turned over to Hollywood investigators. An MPAA spokeswoman said that none of Thursday's suits were related to that action, however."
When even the submitters don't read the article, and the editors don't check it AT ALL, then we know this is no longer "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters", but is now "Sensationalist Lies, Innaccurate Rubbish".
"The determined will find ways around this."
But most people are not that determined.
In a similar manner to UK banning the sale of large numbers (20+) asprin tablets per day, people can still go around each chemist and buy 20 from each one. but they generally don't. The people who used to store 100+ asprins now are down to 40ish.
The determined will ALWAYS find a way round things, but the casual players will just accept it.
"They DISPLAY targeted ads exactly like google web search does, based on the content of the mails you receive. The mail messages themselves are totally unaltered"
OK, that helps. Thanks.
"this analysis is completely automatic so your privacy isn't breached."
Is any of this info stored? If google keep a database of who they advertised to, and what keywords they hit, (in private emails) then privacy IS breached.
Not saying they DO keep this info, just that I don;t know if they do or not.
Doesn't GMail already put spam into your emails? ... *sniff* ...) a gmail account, but seem to remember news about them reading your mail and putting adverts in them?
I have never used (or been invited to use
Duke Nukem! Knew I'd missed one! Thanks!!
/. Editors Know arse from elbow. Pictures on page 7
8) GMail will be in Beta until DNF is released (Courtesy of tod_miller)
9) Netcraft confirms
" illegal " and "will not happen" are two VERY different things.
Are you trying to suggest that a Corporation would never do anything illegal? Or just that Google never would?
Or just, coincidentally, both are true?
Usual Slashdot 'editor' skills.
Google article has its title changed (to "Better reflect the facts" or "Due to misinterpretations in the levels of accuracy" or "no-one checked the article.").
1TB DVD recorder article still sys it is a 1TB DVD recorder.
"If someone had checked the blog and gmail.com before the post was put live" - you mean the journaists and editors doing their job?
1) You must be new here.
2) Slashdot: News for no-one. Stuff thats Wrong.
3) Only old people complain about innacurate titles.
4) Imagine a cluster of these editors (no need to imagine - check out the nearest bar)
5) Slashcode is shit and still doesn;t work with Firefox.
6) In Soviet Russia Editors actually do their job.
7) ???
8) Profit.
I bet I missed something about hot grits down someones pants.
You think they have canecelled/terminated the account?
After reading a lot of reports (here and elsewhere), I would advise checking the bank statements for the next few months, just to be sure.
I'm sure the AoL Operators are aware of hospices that have internet connections.
"what will probably be the last computer RPG with a real story."
I very much doubt that.
I know FPS and MMORPG are becoeming very popular, but there are a lot of people out there who play games BECAUSE of the story line.
As more modable games come out, the players will write their own stories, and release them on servers for others to play.
This is where games like The Sims come out on top- creative people can build worlds, tell stories via computer games without having to be coders.
So long as some geeks are writing engines, there will be artists writing content.