In my experience, most relays have a "Instantaneous" setting that goes off as fast as possible if you have like 20-30 times as much current as should be there, a "Short Time" setting that goes off in few seconds (a fixed time, exactly how long is settable) if the current is several times times what it should be (exactly how much current is settable) and the "Long Time" setting which follows $Fixed_value = [Current]^2 * time ("I squared T").
The "Long Time" setting integrates current squared when ever the current is above the "Pick-up" value which is typically around 20% over normal rated current. Exactly how much the integrated value has to reach to trip on "Long Time" is very complex and has to be coordinated all the other relays and systems. Generally, the lowest level of breakers are given time to trip first, in hopes that the problem is solved while only interrupting a single circuit. The upstream breakers are set with a higher value so they will trip after the downstream breakers had their chance.
I can at least understand trying to kill terrorists. Civilians get killed because of our desperation to kill the terrorists. I mean, it's horrible and all, but at least there is an understandable goal there.
This seems just flat out petty. If we hacked websites to locate terrorists, or anticipate attacks, or disrupt their finances, I could understand that. But to hack in and just insert our own video? And admit that we did it? It just makes us look like script kiddies putting "USA rulz!!! LOL OMG" on stuff.
Crap like this makes our enemies hate us just a little bit more, and makes our allies just a little bit more reluctant to support us, and doesn't accomplish anything material.
Um, yes it does. Article I section 8 is exactly an enumerated list of items Congress is allowed to write laws about. And the 10th amendment explicitly says anything not on the list (or added later by an amendment) can't be done by Congress.
Wait, what constitution are you reading? Article I section 8 specifically details the kinds of laws congress can pass. "Taxes, duties, imposts and excises" are the very first things mentioned.
Hmm, I guess we aren't at all on the same page here. Nerds are not, in my experience, trying to gain social acceptance, they are just trying to enjoy things they enjoy.
I basically see two options here, someone who enjoys D&D/Star Trek/Computer Programming/Whatever can either:
Continue enjoying the things they enjoy and accept the fact that the majority will shun them for it, or
Give up on things they enjoy, and pretend they enjoy things that really don't give them pleasure, so as to try fool their peers into thinking they are more 'normal'.
I've tried both approaches at various times in my life, the second one is not only a very sad way to go through life, but it is also ineffective. The others just see through your sham and shun you anyway.
Being a good person really doesn't enter into it, nerds are generally quite nice and respectful of others (there are exceptions). That is, in fact, one of the "weird" behaviors that set them apart from others, nerd sub-culture doesn't engage in the usual put-downs and insults that "regular" kids like to dish out.
You can enjoy Magic the Gathering without forgetting the rest of the world.
Who's forgetting the rest of the world? I'm not sure what you are even getting at here.
You can enjoy D&D and not drone on about it endlessly to people who don't care.
Ok but that's a fairly universal human failure. People who love football (or whatever) are just as likely to drone on about it endlessly to people who don't care. Its just that since there hobbies are more popular they have fewer people complaining (because more people share their love of football/whatever).
Also, all this stuff you mentioned is just entertainment. Do you really think entertainment choices are this important?
Well, your original post already mentioned not giving up computers and math and such. What else does that leave besides entertainment choices to cause one to be labeled as a nerd?
Being labelled is not a behavior. If it doesn't fit, it's a lot less likely to stick.
Ok but usually in this case it does fit and therefore stick. Nerdy kids do, in fact, like nerdy stuff
Preemptively giving up is not really good for much. It's a poor lesson for kids. It tells people they can't count on you for anything.
I don't understand what you are even getting at here. Are nerds giving up on something? The kids are just trying to enjoy things they enjoy, and getting harassed because the majority doesn't enjoy those things and labels them as "uncool".
Why not give up the subculture behaviors and identification instead?
Because the subculture behaviors are things that they enjoy. Magic the Gathering/Japanese Animation/D&D/whatever are things that are appealing and fun for kids of a certain personality type (nerds) and so they associate with other kids with similar interests.
The nerd label comes wether you want it or not. You can try to pretend you don't like that stuff and
are into mainstream stuff but that's a pretty sad way to go through life and everyone else usually
sees through your fakery anyway.
What annoys me is that nobody offers what is really needed - more elbow room.
My legs fit fine in nearly all airline seats. I hate having to try to suck my arms into my torso in a desperate attempt to avoid physical contact with the stranger next to me.
Business Class fares are completely astronomical. I might consider paying 10%, 20%, or even 50% more to avoid sharing an armrest (that isn't even adequate for one person, let alone two). But last time I checked, Business Class tickets were about $5000, around 4-5 times economy class tickets. (I was comparing LAX to Hong Kong at the time)
If that's true though, then there should be no talk about permits. If "Bigfoot's" activities actually constitute harassment or if there is a legitimate public safety issue, then the Park should be flat out saying "no you can't do that".
By making it a "you don't have a permit" issue, it really smacks of the park rangers don't like it, but it hasn't actually crossed the line.
I mean, are they saying you CAN harass/endanger people as long as you do get a permit?
I sure as hell did when I was in primary and secondary school! Yeah I don't have to think about it NOW, after having done it for decades. But in my childhood 95% of the effort of writing was concentrating on making the letters actually look like letters. And that seriously bogged down the actual process of learning how to write well.
I was pretty much saved by the introduction of widespread computers when I was in High School.
I have long thought (in a purely speculative way) that Einstein's logic is circular when he defines relativity. He basically starts with the assumption that "simultaneous" means when the light of two events reaches an observer at the same time and then does the math to make this all work.
But even if the ultimate speed limit of the universe was faster than the speed of light, anything effect that propagates electromagnetically would still appear to follow relativity with light speed as the fastest possible speed. And 99.9999% of everything we observe is the result of electromagnetic interaction.
And which force is it that doesn't affect neutrinos? hmmmmmm
You must have missed the part where you own a house and/or a car, a cell phone, a big screen TV, a state-of-the-art game system, a PC or laptop, and so on. You don't count yourself as having a richer life than people did 40 years ago? Wealth is not money. Capitalism is responsible for these developments.
What the hell are you even talking about here? Your first sentence talks about a bunch of material crap, and your second sentence talks about a "richer life". Those are pretty much orthogonal. Lets break it down your list:
House - Yep I have a small condo, shelter does improve my life. They had houses 40 years ago though, so I'm not sure what we are comparing here.
Car - Sort of - I drive my company car, about 90% of my use of the thing is work related. I hate driving but there are times it is useful. Cars existed 40 years ago.
Big Screen TV - I own an old CRT I inherited from an old roommate that left, I never use it (I have no or satellite service, nor even an antenna to plug into it). Obviously I don't think much of TV making life "richer".
State-of-the-art game system - I do own a Wii, its been broken for the last several months. I haven't bothered to fix it because I honestly don't miss it. Apparently it didn't really contribute much to having a richer life.
PC or Laptop - Computers and specifically the Internet are the one thing I'll give you that made a huge difference in quality of life.
Anything else? Cell phones did eliminate a lot of old frustrations. Looking around my home I don't see much of anything else noteworthy, certainly nothing that didn't exist 40 years ago.
The main problem in life is that we work too much and thus can't enjoy any of the stuff we have (whether 40 year old tech or new). That is why we are miserable all the damn time and hate our lives. But the way society is set up, its either work yourself to death and be constantly miserable, or be out of work and eventually starve to death in the streets. Why isn't the march of technology moving our work week towards 20 hours (or less)?
The answer is that it is more efficient to work one person for 40 hours than to work two people 20 hours each.
And why is efficiency so important? Because that's what sends maximized profits to the rich shareholders at the top.
So instead of having better and better lives, we are forced to fight ever harder to have a job or else starve.So that the rich can get richer without doing any work themselves.
I've never felt good when exercising. I do it, and do it regularly, solely because I like to be sexually desirable. But there is no way it can be called fun. It's something you grit your teeth a force yourself through because it feels better later, when you're not exercising, and some girl is actually checking you out.
On Saturday (my big workout day) I often stay I bed long after I've already woken up, long after I've gotten bored out of my mind just laying there, because I'm filled with dread at the fact that once I get up, I'm going to have to force myself to workout. And runner's high? I've heard of it, but the only thing I've ever felt is just sort of a dizzy, head in clouds, "out of it" sort of feeling, like being drugged up by a doctor. Granted you don't feel the pain anymore, but the experience is anything but pleasant.
Exercise sucks, it may be worth it later, but I hate when people like you say it's "fun".
I did look it up once, and at least in California, the relevant law stated that you could call yourself an engineer if you worked for a major industrial company and your official job title contained the word "engineer".
You only need a license to call yourself a "Professional Engineer (P.E.)" or to sell services as an "Engineer" without a company backing you up and assuming liability for your work.
Cooool! How do you put field current into the, um, rotor? (carriage, I guess)? I guess metal wheels would work.
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>>I just want to know how CLU sent a page.
Yes I was wondering too. When I saw the commercials with Alan getting a page "from a number that had been disconnected for 20 years" I thought nothing of it. It seemed obvious that the programs (or Flynn inside the computer) just hacked into the pager system over the internet and sent a page with a number they faked up (actually, now that I think about it you could always type any number you wanted when paging, real or not).
But The Grid was not connected to the internet or anything else, so how did CLU page Alan?
Um, but I was already talking about first class mail. The post office generally tells you that first class mail will get delivered in "about 2 weeks, probably". In reality it usually only takes a day or two, but they won't commit to that so nobody sending anything urgent is going to use first class mail anyway. And thus, nobody would care if the first class mail only came once a week. And many (like me) would actually prefer it only delivered once a week.
Ah but why does the postal service "need to make this trip anyway"? If you cut out all the bulk stuff, they would probably only need to send a truck once a week. It would be way more convenient for me to only have to go out to my mail box once a week, and nobody is going to send anything urgent via regular mail (they always suggest it could take about 2 weeks anyway, and they don't guaranty even that).
The only reason we need daily USPS service is because our box would be overflowing with all the crap mail we don't want anyway, which is only sent because it is so preposterously cheep. Raise the rates, all the stupid crap mail everyone hates goes away, you can slash your operating expenses to almost 1/6 of what they currently are, and I only have to walk over to the mailbox once a week. Its pretty much win all around, except for postal workers.
Most modern natural gas turbines are "combustion turbines", which means they don't generate steam to turn the turbine*. Instead they use the hot exhaust to directly turn the turbines. The modern designs I have worked with generally have a "duel fuel" option, allowing them to run off of diesel fuel as well. They can also run off of syngas, which is basically the same as natural gas (but synthetic not natural), which is made from coal. And I know of one that was modified to run off of hydrogen (it was at a refinery that produced hydrogen as a by-product of refining).
Combustion turbines can burn basically anything that is a gas or can be atomized, it is a question of tweaking there combustion settings, comparable to making a car run off alcohol or whatever.
*Most combustion turbines I've work with are "combined cycle" which means they've added a Heat Recovery Steam Generator (HRSG) to boil water from the exhaust of the combustion turbine. The steam is then used to turn a steam turbine generator to produce even more power.
For your "average Jose", no immigration is not legal. An unskilled laborer with no family already here legally (parents, siblings, adult children, or spouse/fiance) can not get a green card, period.
Well, I'm about 40 miles east of L.A. (in Rancho Cucamonga), and I can say that while I have tasted worse tap water, the tap water here still is unpleasant to drink because of the taste of chlorine. I've traveled extensively in my life, having been first a military brat, then in the military myself, and now in a field service job where I travel a lot for work, and I have never tasted tap water that didn't taste bad from at least the chlorine.
Seriously, I know it can be much, much worse, but chlorine already tastes really bad by itself.
I have trouble believing this. The main thing that makes tap water taste bad compared to bottled/filtered water is chlorine (granted some places have other stuff that makes it taste much worse). Do you folks actually not chlorinate your tap water?
Of course, chlorine is just a taste issue, in China we are talking about water that is unsafe to drink.
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No, it raises the question. Begging the question is a logical fallacy that doesn't mean anything like what it sounds.
If it doesn't mean anything like what it sounds, then that is a language fail.
Sorry, the "correct" use of the phrase "begs the question" is one of my pet peeves, because it makes no logical sense.
In my experience, most relays have a "Instantaneous" setting that goes off as fast as possible if you have like 20-30 times as much current as should be there, a "Short Time" setting that goes off in few seconds (a fixed time, exactly how long is settable) if the current is several times times what it should be (exactly how much current is settable) and the "Long Time" setting which follows $Fixed_value = [Current]^2 * time ("I squared T").
The "Long Time" setting integrates current squared when ever the current is above the "Pick-up" value which is typically around 20% over normal rated current. Exactly how much the integrated value has to reach to trip on "Long Time" is very complex and has to be coordinated all the other relays and systems. Generally, the lowest level of breakers are given time to trip first, in hopes that the problem is solved while only interrupting a single circuit. The upstream breakers are set with a higher value so they will trip after the downstream breakers had their chance.
I can at least understand trying to kill terrorists. Civilians get killed because of our desperation to kill the terrorists. I mean, it's horrible and all, but at least there is an understandable goal there.
This seems just flat out petty. If we hacked websites to locate terrorists, or anticipate attacks, or disrupt their finances, I could understand that. But to hack in and just insert our own video? And admit that we did it? It just makes us look like script kiddies putting "USA rulz!!! LOL OMG" on stuff.
Crap like this makes our enemies hate us just a little bit more, and makes our allies just a little bit more reluctant to support us, and doesn't accomplish anything material.
Um, yes it does. Article I section 8 is exactly an enumerated list of items Congress is allowed to write laws about. And the 10th amendment explicitly says anything not on the list (or added later by an amendment) can't be done by Congress.
Wait, what constitution are you reading? Article I section 8 specifically details the kinds of laws congress can pass. "Taxes, duties, imposts and excises" are the very first things mentioned.
He showed up during the Eugenics Wars, which didn't get much press coverage because they happened at the same time as the O.J. Simpson trial.
Hmm, I guess we aren't at all on the same page here. Nerds are not, in my experience, trying to gain social acceptance, they are just trying to enjoy things they enjoy.
I basically see two options here, someone who enjoys D&D/Star Trek/Computer Programming/Whatever can either:
Continue enjoying the things they enjoy and accept the fact that the majority will shun them for it, or
Give up on things they enjoy, and pretend they enjoy things that really don't give them pleasure, so as to try fool their peers into thinking they are more 'normal'.
I've tried both approaches at various times in my life, the second one is not only a very sad way to go through life, but it is also ineffective. The others just see through your sham and shun you anyway.
Being a good person really doesn't enter into it, nerds are generally quite nice and respectful of others (there are exceptions). That is, in fact, one of the "weird" behaviors that set them apart from others, nerd sub-culture doesn't engage in the usual put-downs and insults that "regular" kids like to dish out.
You can enjoy Magic the Gathering without forgetting the rest of the world.
Who's forgetting the rest of the world? I'm not sure what you are even getting at here.
You can enjoy D&D and not drone on about it endlessly to people who don't care.
Ok but that's a fairly universal human failure. People who love football (or whatever) are just as likely to drone on about it endlessly to people who don't care. Its just that since there hobbies are more popular they have fewer people complaining (because more people share their love of football/whatever).
Also, all this stuff you mentioned is just entertainment. Do you really think entertainment choices are this important?
Well, your original post already mentioned not giving up computers and math and such. What else does that leave besides entertainment choices to cause one to be labeled as a nerd?
Being labelled is not a behavior. If it doesn't fit, it's a lot less likely to stick.
Ok but usually in this case it does fit and therefore stick. Nerdy kids do, in fact, like nerdy stuff
Preemptively giving up is not really good for much. It's a poor lesson for kids. It tells people they can't count on you for anything.
I don't understand what you are even getting at here. Are nerds giving up on something? The kids are just trying to enjoy things they enjoy, and getting harassed because the majority doesn't enjoy those things and labels them as "uncool".
Why not give up the subculture behaviors and identification instead?
Because the subculture behaviors are things that they enjoy. Magic the Gathering/Japanese Animation/D&D/whatever are things that are appealing and fun for kids of a certain personality type (nerds) and so they associate with other kids with similar interests.
The nerd label comes wether you want it or not. You can try to pretend you don't like that stuff and are into mainstream stuff but that's a pretty sad way to go through life and everyone else usually sees through your fakery anyway.
What annoys me is that nobody offers what is really needed - more elbow room.
My legs fit fine in nearly all airline seats. I hate having to try to suck my arms into my torso in a desperate attempt to avoid physical contact with the stranger next to me.
Business Class fares are completely astronomical. I might consider paying 10%, 20%, or even 50% more to avoid sharing an armrest (that isn't even adequate for one person, let alone two). But last time I checked, Business Class tickets were about $5000, around 4-5 times economy class tickets. (I was comparing LAX to Hong Kong at the time)
If that's true though, then there should be no talk about permits. If "Bigfoot's" activities actually constitute harassment or if there is a legitimate public safety issue, then the Park should be flat out saying "no you can't do that".
By making it a "you don't have a permit" issue, it really smacks of the park rangers don't like it, but it hasn't actually crossed the line.
I mean, are they saying you CAN harass/endanger people as long as you do get a permit?
I sure as hell did when I was in primary and secondary school! Yeah I don't have to think about it NOW, after having done it for decades. But in my childhood 95% of the effort of writing was concentrating on making the letters actually look like letters. And that seriously bogged down the actual process of learning how to write well. I was pretty much saved by the introduction of widespread computers when I was in High School.
I have long thought (in a purely speculative way) that Einstein's logic is circular when he defines relativity. He basically starts with the assumption that "simultaneous" means when the light of two events reaches an observer at the same time and then does the math to make this all work.
But even if the ultimate speed limit of the universe was faster than the speed of light, anything effect that propagates electromagnetically would still appear to follow relativity with light speed as the fastest possible speed. And 99.9999% of everything we observe is the result of electromagnetic interaction.
And which force is it that doesn't affect neutrinos? hmmmmmm
You must have missed the part where you own a house and/or a car, a cell phone, a big screen TV, a state-of-the-art game system, a PC or laptop, and so on. You don't count yourself as having a richer life than people did 40 years ago? Wealth is not money. Capitalism is responsible for these developments.
What the hell are you even talking about here? Your first sentence talks about a bunch of material crap, and your second sentence talks about a "richer life". Those are pretty much orthogonal. Lets break it down your list:
House - Yep I have a small condo, shelter does improve my life. They had houses 40 years ago though, so I'm not sure what we are comparing here.
Car - Sort of - I drive my company car, about 90% of my use of the thing is work related. I hate driving but there are times it is useful. Cars existed 40 years ago.
Big Screen TV - I own an old CRT I inherited from an old roommate that left, I never use it (I have no or satellite service, nor even an antenna to plug into it). Obviously I don't think much of TV making life "richer".
State-of-the-art game system - I do own a Wii, its been broken for the last several months. I haven't bothered to fix it because I honestly don't miss it. Apparently it didn't really contribute much to having a richer life.
PC or Laptop - Computers and specifically the Internet are the one thing I'll give you that made a huge difference in quality of life.
Anything else? Cell phones did eliminate a lot of old frustrations. Looking around my home I don't see much of anything else noteworthy, certainly nothing that didn't exist 40 years ago.
The main problem in life is that we work too much and thus can't enjoy any of the stuff we have (whether 40 year old tech or new). That is why we are miserable all the damn time and hate our lives. But the way society is set up, its either work yourself to death and be constantly miserable, or be out of work and eventually starve to death in the streets. Why isn't the march of technology moving our work week towards 20 hours (or less)?
The answer is that it is more efficient to work one person for 40 hours than to work two people 20 hours each.
And why is efficiency so important? Because that's what sends maximized profits to the rich shareholders at the top.
So instead of having better and better lives, we are forced to fight ever harder to have a job or else starve.So that the rich can get richer without doing any work themselves.
Prior art. I have this working already. I send my trash into the future at a rate of 1 second per second. Eventually it will reach the far future.
I've never felt good when exercising. I do it, and do it regularly, solely because I like to be sexually desirable. But there is no way it can be called fun. It's something you grit your teeth a force yourself through because it feels better later, when you're not exercising, and some girl is actually checking you out.
On Saturday (my big workout day) I often stay I bed long after I've already woken up, long after I've gotten bored out of my mind just laying there, because I'm filled with dread at the fact that once I get up, I'm going to have to force myself to workout. And runner's high? I've heard of it, but the only thing I've ever felt is just sort of a dizzy, head in clouds, "out of it" sort of feeling, like being drugged up by a doctor. Granted you don't feel the pain anymore, but the experience is anything but pleasant.
Exercise sucks, it may be worth it later, but I hate when people like you say it's "fun".
I did look it up once, and at least in California, the relevant law stated that you could call yourself an engineer if you worked for a major industrial company and your official job title contained the word "engineer".
You only need a license to call yourself a "Professional Engineer (P.E.)" or to sell services as an "Engineer" without a company backing you up and assuming liability for your work.
Cooool! How do you put field current into the, um, rotor? (carriage, I guess)? I guess metal wheels would work.
Yes I was wondering too. When I saw the commercials with Alan getting a page "from a number that had been disconnected for 20 years" I thought nothing of it. It seemed obvious that the programs (or Flynn inside the computer) just hacked into the pager system over the internet and sent a page with a number they faked up (actually, now that I think about it you could always type any number you wanted when paging, real or not).
But The Grid was not connected to the internet or anything else, so how did CLU page Alan?
Um, but I was already talking about first class mail. The post office generally tells you that first class mail will get delivered in "about 2 weeks, probably". In reality it usually only takes a day or two, but they won't commit to that so nobody sending anything urgent is going to use first class mail anyway. And thus, nobody would care if the first class mail only came once a week. And many (like me) would actually prefer it only delivered once a week.
Ah but why does the postal service "need to make this trip anyway"? If you cut out all the bulk stuff, they would probably only need to send a truck once a week. It would be way more convenient for me to only have to go out to my mail box once a week, and nobody is going to send anything urgent via regular mail (they always suggest it could take about 2 weeks anyway, and they don't guaranty even that).
The only reason we need daily USPS service is because our box would be overflowing with all the crap mail we don't want anyway, which is only sent because it is so preposterously cheep. Raise the rates, all the stupid crap mail everyone hates goes away, you can slash your operating expenses to almost 1/6 of what they currently are, and I only have to walk over to the mailbox once a week. Its pretty much win all around, except for postal workers.
Most modern natural gas turbines are "combustion turbines", which means they don't generate steam to turn the turbine*. Instead they use the hot exhaust to directly turn the turbines. The modern designs I have worked with generally have a "duel fuel" option, allowing them to run off of diesel fuel as well. They can also run off of syngas, which is basically the same as natural gas (but synthetic not natural), which is made from coal. And I know of one that was modified to run off of hydrogen (it was at a refinery that produced hydrogen as a by-product of refining).
Combustion turbines can burn basically anything that is a gas or can be atomized, it is a question of tweaking there combustion settings, comparable to making a car run off alcohol or whatever.
*Most combustion turbines I've work with are "combined cycle" which means they've added a Heat Recovery Steam Generator (HRSG) to boil water from the exhaust of the combustion turbine. The steam is then used to turn a steam turbine generator to produce even more power.
For your "average Jose", no immigration is not legal. An unskilled laborer with no family already here legally (parents, siblings, adult children, or spouse/fiance) can not get a green card, period.
Well, I'm about 40 miles east of L.A. (in Rancho Cucamonga), and I can say that while I have tasted worse tap water, the tap water here still is unpleasant to drink because of the taste of chlorine. I've traveled extensively in my life, having been first a military brat, then in the military myself, and now in a field service job where I travel a lot for work, and I have never tasted tap water that didn't taste bad from at least the chlorine.
Seriously, I know it can be much, much worse, but chlorine already tastes really bad by itself.
I have trouble believing this. The main thing that makes tap water taste bad compared to bottled/filtered water is chlorine (granted some places have other stuff that makes it taste much worse). Do you folks actually not chlorinate your tap water?
Of course, chlorine is just a taste issue, in China we are talking about water that is unsafe to drink.