IT isn't going to be a great American job anymore because there aren't going to be more great American jobs. The standard of living world wide will creep up while the little guy in the US is slid toward the third world. The, now unemployed, US small farmers understood this in the 90s.The point in the article about IT people not screaming in the past when factory jobs moved is very insightful. The same could be said for the 'music business', disk copying having destroyed an enormous amount of corporate paper wealth (inflated though that wealth was) with no sign of stablizing. The cat, however, has now shredded the bag and there's no going back. Like the accelerating deflation of 'media value', IT is going to have less and less 'value' to society.
If the IT industry has anything to add, it will be by using networks etc... to maintain standards of living while the casino capital value falls. There will still be local programming jobs, just less of them, and, hopefully, the kids will get into programming because of a 'higher calling' not because they want to be Bill Gates. The teenagers, in my experience, always understood this about music: do it because you like it and mabey get paid. For the adults with adult overhead, fixing hardware, debugging cell phones and networks and all manner of technical support will replace the more glamorous (?) and creative coding jobs being done in countries where $10 an hour is great pay.
Durable goods produced locally could be protected by a 'locals only' union label. This wouldn't stop information / media products from flowing freely but would add value to screwdriver sales on a local level while removing the wasted value of transport.
As a tech and a participant in the electoral process, how do you feel about the move to electronic voting?
Are you nervous about the lack of a paper trail? In your election and national elections?
Do you think there will/can be proper oversight of the company making the machines?
Do you think Linux has a place in an open source voting system that would be easily cross checkable and maintain the proper level of discretion?
Would you support a Federal or State move to subsidize last mile infrastructure and do you think it could be implimented without (an unacceptable level of) rampant corruption?
There was an article in the NYT about ten years ago with a really old guy on a tractor saying that the 'powers that be' were going to devalue American labor to the level of the third world.'
Without global standards, for instance a global minimum wage, the banks who run the IMF etc will always be able to seek the lowest possible wage levels. Without a global labor movement, the workers are at the mercy of management. IWW, anyone?
As long as local production is destabilized, individual communities will be at the mercy of the global supply networks.
[flamebait] But if you guys think my CD should be free, why shouldn't your c code be free?[/flamebait]
That movies will last longer than music as controlled digital intelectual property doesn't ring true. If Big Bro can track (or prevent duplication) of your Terminator 6 - Attack of the President video they can control your Millie Vanilli
The nervous system he was talking about is media and patronage will be available globally by a democratic market. Top shelf musical talent will earn their big bucks in meat space by putting people in the seats.
Overall this reminds me of a review of one of his post Mona Lisa Overdrive novels: He reaches into his hat and pulls out the lining. After a good beginning he opts for a vingette from a William Gibson novel. The speech was for Hollywood, but it's missing the point to talk about media without talking about culture and biology. Sure Junior will have video games, but how many eyes will he have?
As capital can move over borders, what about international labor organizing? Not that this will help information technology. Code, like music and film, wants to be free.
Flame less - play more.
What exactly are the Chinese "failing miserably" at. You are definately not 18th century or you'd be really old.
What do "real music lovers" listen to. There are a lot of remixes coming out of Hong Kong that can hang with the flavor of the month UK/US cubase heads, although the flavor is different. While in China I heard some underground hardcore which was... hardcore.
As for reality check - reread your original post.
Music and media employed a lot of people in the 20th century. The vast majority of people in the music business are not musicians, they are lawyers, publicists, record store clerks, writers, engineers, etc...
Most of these people will be out of work eventually. It is the collapse of an entire industry. There will, I predict, be less musicians making less money. No more session musicians as the potential upside to a pop record is having zeros lopped off. No more full time engineers. No more expensive German microphones and Nieve consoles.
Pop music will probably get better (it can't get worse than 2003) but there will be a lot less of it, and much of it will be made by part-timers who mess around with hard drive recording.
My hope is all these unemployed media people (as publishing and advertising are going down the drain) learn linux and start writing open source software and make sure they never buy software without immediately distributing it on a p2p. I see Adobe going the way of Warner Bros Records.
Have you listened to Chinese classical music? It's spectacular and can stand with the western classical canon. To say the Chinese are failing miserably suggests you don't listen to that much music or you have a Euro / US bias.
The British when they arrived in India decided Hindustani music was out of tune, when in reality the shiruti's were more advanced intonation than used in the western well tempered scale. Shed your colonialism.
In The Exorcist they used some sub-aural sounds to scare. When I saw it in rerelease a couple of years ago (perfect date movie) after a decade of making dance records with 808 kick drums etc... I could here some very bass-y tones providing ominous ambience.
How long before the audio limitations are hacked? This is basically a file swapper with home based teleconferencing. If everyone's broadband, it's a movie and music swapper.
If this catches on ASCAP will go after them for playlists.
The espionage is covered in Dark Sun, Rhode's book on the H Bomb. The Dark Sun chapter on the Cuban Missle Crisis is gripping, culminating in Curtis Le May mad at Kennedy for not incinerating Europe.
Both books are highly recomended.
The concentration of wealth nationally was balanced by the organization of labor. When Teamsters in Oakland CA go out in support of dockworkers in China we'll be moving in the right direction.
I think the majors have totally missed the point.
The ability to dupe disks from a hard drive allows the masses to go three ways on a Sunny Day Real Estate disk, $18 once producing 3 disks. Which drops the price to the consumer to $6 which is a little less than what BMG plays Warner Bros
Honestly good records can be recorded on the cheap as long as they're mixed well. If you think you can mix on VST and sound like 2" tape through an SSL you are wrong.
Wholesale is about $7 a disk from the majors to the distributors.
There was talk of flooding Napster with super servers, so the RIAA-ites are bound to get into a technological arms race with the p2p's, the idea being to make it as difficult and dangerous as possible. Not stopping p2p, but constantly battling with salaried code departments. This is a lot of money we're talking about (industry tracked duping) and they sure ain't gonna lie down.
The joke to me is that, IMHO (and I'm in the music biz) p2p actually is good for global sales. Disk to disk copying is where they're getting hit - kids go in three ways on a disk (which should cost 1/3).
AOL was (is?) a huge singles bar. Someone said about the early days of the alt.sex.* newsgroups that a rock had been turned over exposing and amplfying what had been on/in the minds of Americans. AOL made more money than the biggest internet porn dude.
Time Warner had It's A Wonderful Life, AOL had teenagers curious about bondage. Which is worth more?
Drop prices for what? Telecom pricing is artificial against the 'cost' of bandwidth as it is. Drop last mile ISP costs? Douptful. Backbones don't charge for packets yet (please correct me if I'm wrong) or else the spam landscape would be much different.
People use bandwidth for audio file sharing and nekkid women. The big problem with the dot.com.boom, IMHO, was lack of any content for the existing bandwidth. If you're not a tech-head, sharing music, on ebay or a voyeur, the internet is still kind of like a big amusement park where a lot of the cool rides aren't open yet.
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If the IT industry has anything to add, it will be by using networks etc ... to maintain standards of living while the casino capital value falls. There will still be local programming jobs, just less of them, and, hopefully, the kids will get into programming because of a 'higher calling' not because they want to be Bill Gates. The teenagers, in my experience, always understood this about music: do it because you like it and mabey get paid. For the adults with adult overhead, fixing hardware, debugging cell phones and networks and all manner of technical support will replace the more glamorous (?) and creative coding jobs being done in countries where $10 an hour is great pay.
Durable goods produced locally could be protected by a 'locals only' union label. This wouldn't stop information / media products from flowing freely but would add value to screwdriver sales on a local level while removing the wasted value of transport.
Are you nervous about the lack of a paper trail? In your election and national elections?
Do you think there will/can be proper oversight of the company making the machines?
Do you think Linux has a place in an open source voting system that would be easily cross checkable and maintain the proper level of discretion?
Would you support a Federal or State move to subsidize last mile infrastructure and do you think it could be implimented without (an unacceptable level of) rampant corruption?
Without global standards, for instance a global minimum wage, the banks who run the IMF etc will always be able to seek the lowest possible wage levels. Without a global labor movement, the workers are at the mercy of management. IWW, anyone?
As long as local production is destabilized, individual communities will be at the mercy of the global supply networks.
[flamebait] But if you guys think my CD should be free, why shouldn't your c code be free?[/flamebait]
This has to be part of a larger plot. Can anyone tie in Microsoft, the CIA and the Mason's?
That movies will last longer than music as controlled digital intelectual property doesn't ring true. If Big Bro can track (or prevent duplication) of your Terminator 6 - Attack of the President video they can control your Millie Vanilli
The nervous system he was talking about is media and patronage will be available globally by a democratic market. Top shelf musical talent will earn their big bucks in meat space by putting people in the seats.
Overall this reminds me of a review of one of his post Mona Lisa Overdrive novels: He reaches into his hat and pulls out the lining. After a good beginning he opts for a vingette from a William Gibson novel. The speech was for Hollywood, but it's missing the point to talk about media without talking about culture and biology. Sure Junior will have video games, but how many eyes will he have?
And now Ice 'cop killer' T has been playing cops on TV for years.
As capital can move over borders, what about international labor organizing? Not that this will help information technology. Code, like music and film, wants to be free.
Press release journalism. No info on Java/Linux/Macromedia/etc support. You can 'browse the web'. Yes, but whose?
Flame less - play more. What exactly are the Chinese "failing miserably" at. You are definately not 18th century or you'd be really old. What do "real music lovers" listen to. There are a lot of remixes coming out of Hong Kong that can hang with the flavor of the month UK/US cubase heads, although the flavor is different. While in China I heard some underground hardcore which was ... hardcore.
As for reality check - reread your original post.
Most of these people will be out of work eventually. It is the collapse of an entire industry. There will, I predict, be less musicians making less money. No more session musicians as the potential upside to a pop record is having zeros lopped off. No more full time engineers. No more expensive German microphones and Nieve consoles.
Pop music will probably get better (it can't get worse than 2003) but there will be a lot less of it, and much of it will be made by part-timers who mess around with hard drive recording.My hope is all these unemployed media people (as publishing and advertising are going down the drain) learn linux and start writing open source software and make sure they never buy software without immediately distributing it on a p2p. I see Adobe going the way of Warner Bros Records.
The British when they arrived in India decided Hindustani music was out of tune, when in reality the shiruti's were more advanced intonation than used in the western well tempered scale. Shed your colonialism.
In The Exorcist they used some sub-aural sounds to scare. When I saw it in rerelease a couple of years ago (perfect date movie) after a decade of making dance records with 808 kick drums etc ... I could here some very bass-y tones providing ominous ambience.
How long before the audio limitations are hacked? This is basically a file swapper with home based teleconferencing. If everyone's broadband, it's a movie and music swapper. If this catches on ASCAP will go after them for playlists.
The espionage is covered in Dark Sun, Rhode's book on the H Bomb. The Dark Sun chapter on the Cuban Missle Crisis is gripping, culminating in Curtis Le May mad at Kennedy for not incinerating Europe.
Both books are highly recomended.
or mabey /.
The concentration of wealth nationally was balanced by the organization of labor. When Teamsters in Oakland CA go out in support of dockworkers in China we'll be moving in the right direction.
p2p actually sells music (but you knew that)
Wholesale is about $7 a disk from the majors to the distributors.
With protools, everyones a singer!The joke to me is that, IMHO (and I'm in the music biz) p2p actually is good for global sales. Disk to disk copying is where they're getting hit - kids go in three ways on a disk (which should cost 1/3).
Kilobytes per second?
'Broadband' implies a certain connection speed(?)
I was very sick nad remember mom, grandma and aunt all worried. I asked later and found out that I was 11 months old.
Time Warner had It's A Wonderful Life, AOL had teenagers curious about bondage. Which is worth more?
Information wants to be free
People use bandwidth for audio file sharing and nekkid women. The big problem with the dot.com.boom, IMHO, was lack of any content for the existing bandwidth. If you're not a tech-head, sharing music, on ebay or a voyeur, the internet is still kind of like a big amusement park where a lot of the cool rides aren't open yet.
I knew he was a German priest. I wonder what's being spun in my translation (Protestant vs Catholic)