In fact, I'll argue that the main idea in the heads of the terrorists is to provoke a US reaction so bad that it will again provoke 2 billion arabs to become so furious that it starts a full scale war.
So far, I think the US has done its best to full-fill the goals of the terrorists. What the terrorists OTOH have misunderstood is the will of Mohammad Average Arab to get into a fight. The massive uprising of two billions arabs the terrorists hoped for is simply not going to happen, not because of Bush, but in spite of him. They have no interest in it, when I've been travelling in arab countries, I have met nothing but respect and peacefulness. Or to paraphrase Sting:
What might save us, me, and you
Is that the arabs love their children too
Yeah, sure. You'll have your brains blown out before you even get close to Washington DC.
The issue isn't the arms, the issue is to get enough people to stand up. The world just saw a peaceful revolution in Georgia the other day.
Try that instead. Get a million people walking unarmed to the White House and take it over. If they start shooting at unarmed civilians, then you know you live under a tyranny, and other tactics may be in place. But before you've tried that. talking about a violent revolt is just wrong.
In fact, there was just a revolution in Georgia. A peaceful revolution, that happened because enough people got into the streets and decided enough was enough. It's harder to shoot at people when they are unarmed, why don't you just take notice of that and realize the 2nd Amendment is a thing of the past?
Why don't you just learn something from Georgia then? What they did was bus a whole lot of people into the capital, move slowly and without arms towards the parliament, then the presidential residence.
The key here is that unarmed civilians marching in large numbers are a whole lot more difficult to shoot at than a bunch of loonies with guns.
But then, it means that americans need to get off their fat asses, which is not going to happen any time soon.
If this continues indefinately we will end up approaching a system simular to Soviet Russia
but from the opposite direction.
My cousin spent three years in college in Florida. Basically, his mother (my aunt) is from Eastern Germany, and his father (my uncle!) had a hell of a time getting her out of there. Nevertheless, they was able to visit her family many times before the Wall came down, so he knows what he's talking about.
His verdict was clear: The system is allready there, on the level of Eastern Germany under Soviet influence.
Corporations rule the show, and they look upon consumers as some grey goo, that don't need to be respected, because they are just a bunch of sheep anyway, with no real power to change anything, and if a.01% of them cries Boycot! on/., so what?
Those who work in those corporations, OTOH are scared shitless at the prospect of doing something wrong and get fired, so if you try to get anything done, forget it, it's not going to happen before it has been three levels up in the hierarchy, at which point nobody even knows what the question was about anymore.
Then, it is all about control. Get a monopoly, and you're OK. Kill the competition, control the market, that's what we aim for. IPR is well suited for that purpose.
The free market has some nice features when it works, but it is important to note that the market itself is very bad at staying free.
I just don't think that it's obvious at all that the Diebold documents will become part of the public record.
Then you may be comforted to know that the memos are on my harddrive too, and I'm in Norway. The files are also uploaded to Freenet, AFAIK. Personally, there is little I find more scary than the prospect of failure of democracy in the country that has the largest arsenal of nukes in the world.
If you think there's any chance at all your own justice system will fail to prosecute your leaders if need be, make sure you support the International Crimes Court.
Allthough Carl Sagans Baloney Detection Kit was written primarily with UFO-fanatics and conspiracy buffs in mind, it works well on
Defense Secretaries too...
When Donald Rumsfeld is sayingabsence of evidence is not evidence of absence, then he is making the same appeal to ignorance that Carl Sagan has described, and that I have met over and over again in various newsgroups.
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This is what is going to happen: One night, just before US presidential elections, there is a nuclear bomb aboard a ship approaching a US harbor. The bomb is set off in the harbor, killing hundred thousand people if not more.
Bush will declare that the election is postponed and the media will declare that all americans are firmly behind their president in time of crisis. Bush will be in direct command of US military forces. Effectively, he will have become a military dictator.
I think this scenario is not all that unlikely, but what would you do if it happened?
Well, not so much in the long run, as virus writers may take up the habit of adding their crap as payload on other Word or other Office documents people are writing.
Well, if I were to break into somebody's computer, the last thing I would do is to cheerfully announce it to the user and have him send it seperately. I would silently add myself to his Word documents, and follow as malicious payload on documents he were writing, so that I would enter new systems along with documents they were expecting.
So, "do not open documents you are not expecting" is really a bad piece of advice. It's not going to help a lot, once those who write this kind of crap (virii, that is) realize how they really could infect a lot of computers silently.
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Who is the source of the information? Right, the spammer. Rule #1: Spammers lie.
In fact, I'll argue that the main idea in the heads of the terrorists is to provoke a US reaction so bad that it will again provoke 2 billion arabs to become so furious that it starts a full scale war.
So far, I think the US has done its best to full-fill the goals of the terrorists. What the terrorists OTOH have misunderstood is the will of Mohammad Average Arab to get into a fight. The massive uprising of two billions arabs the terrorists hoped for is simply not going to happen, not because of Bush, but in spite of him. They have no interest in it, when I've been travelling in arab countries, I have met nothing but respect and peacefulness. Or to paraphrase Sting:
The issue isn't the arms, the issue is to get enough people to stand up. The world just saw a peaceful revolution in Georgia the other day.
Try that instead. Get a million people walking unarmed to the White House and take it over. If they start shooting at unarmed civilians, then you know you live under a tyranny, and other tactics may be in place. But before you've tried that. talking about a violent revolt is just wrong.
In fact, there was just a revolution in Georgia. A peaceful revolution, that happened because enough people got into the streets and decided enough was enough. It's harder to shoot at people when they are unarmed, why don't you just take notice of that and realize the 2nd Amendment is a thing of the past?
The key here is that unarmed civilians marching in large numbers are a whole lot more difficult to shoot at than a bunch of loonies with guns.
But then, it means that americans need to get off their fat asses, which is not going to happen any time soon.
My cousin spent three years in college in Florida. Basically, his mother (my aunt) is from Eastern Germany, and his father (my uncle!) had a hell of a time getting her out of there. Nevertheless, they was able to visit her family many times before the Wall came down, so he knows what he's talking about.
His verdict was clear: The system is allready there, on the level of Eastern Germany under Soviet influence.
Corporations rule the show, and they look upon consumers as some grey goo, that don't need to be respected, because they are just a bunch of sheep anyway, with no real power to change anything, and if a .01% of them cries Boycot! on /., so what?
Those who work in those corporations, OTOH are scared shitless at the prospect of doing something wrong and get fired, so if you try to get anything done, forget it, it's not going to happen before it has been three levels up in the hierarchy, at which point nobody even knows what the question was about anymore.
Then, it is all about control. Get a monopoly, and you're OK. Kill the competition, control the market, that's what we aim for. IPR is well suited for that purpose.
The free market has some nice features when it works, but it is important to note that the market itself is very bad at staying free.
What more can I say: Congratulations! ;-)
Then you may be comforted to know that the memos are on my harddrive too, and I'm in Norway. The files are also uploaded to Freenet, AFAIK. Personally, there is little I find more scary than the prospect of failure of democracy in the country that has the largest arsenal of nukes in the world.
If you think there's any chance at all your own justice system will fail to prosecute your leaders if need be, make sure you support the International Crimes Court.
I don't think we're going to let you down.
There's only one thing to hope for: That someone starts pointing their finger at you.
When Donald Rumsfeld is saying absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, then he is making the same appeal to ignorance that Carl Sagan has described, and that I have met over and over again in various newsgroups.
Bush will declare that the election is postponed and the media will declare that all americans are firmly behind their president in time of crisis. Bush will be in direct command of US military forces. Effectively, he will have become a military dictator.
I think this scenario is not all that unlikely, but what would you do if it happened?
Well, not so much in the long run, as virus writers may take up the habit of adding their crap as payload on other Word or other Office documents people are writing.
So, "do not open documents you are not expecting" is really a bad piece of advice. It's not going to help a lot, once those who write this kind of crap (virii, that is) realize how they really could infect a lot of computers silently.
Well, you get what you're paying for. If you start paying more taxes, you'll probably get better service. Works around here.
Norwegians understand both fine. Just ask us to translate! :-)