By the way, I didn't mean to imply that you were responsible for that, poor wording on my part.
Whoever wrote that in Gamepro out and out lied. They literally said that they tried it and it worked. No one actually takes video game articles seriously from a truth perspective, so I suppose the stakes aren't high, but it rubbed me the wrong way.
My biggest complaint against Gamepro had always been the fluff reviews, almost everything got a good score. At the time (1993-4? roughly) EGM was at the top of the ballgame, reviews were fairly in-depth and were pretty critical. Even if a game is good, it still might only deserve a 6.5/10 or something, simply because it's not challenging enough, and you quit playing after a few days. EGM is crap now too. I honestly haven't looked at gamepro in years, but even a few years ago my impression was that most game magazines weren't differentiating themselves enough.
It's my feeling that with superaccelerated schedules now, and the extremely high amounts of money that have to be pumped into fancy 3D games with cutscenes and CD-quality music, critical standards for games should be MUCH higher than they have ever been before. Higher aspirations have further to fall, I guess.
Hey, remember that time EGM had the April Fools Day gag where they said they unlocked a hidden character "Sheng Long" in the arcade version of Street Fighter II CE, complete with faked screenshots? And then Gamepro wrote up an article on how you "confirmed" the "rumors", and that the secret character was real? And then EGM admitted they made the whole thing up?
HILARIOUS!
From an editorial standpoint, Gamepro has NEVER had any credibility.
I will throw one bone though, Gamepro's SFII guide with character moves, combos and strengh/fighting matrix was top notch. Stick to strategy guides.
Read the original post to understand why. It was complaining that Linux distros listed higher system requirements than Windows XP, which listed 300Mhz as it's requirement. Your parent post said "try it in a 300Mhz.", knowing full well that Linux distros are more honest about their requirements than Microsoft. I have personally run Red Hat Linux just fine on a 486SX-25Mhz, so I can attest to this.
And anyway, I have three 500Mhz machines sitting around. They would all make a perfectly usable desktop under Linux. Why? That's 350 dollars I don't have to chuck in the dumpster for something I don't need. 350 dollars is still a lot of money where I come from.
I was listening to the Bob and Tom show on the radio one time, and they had an astronaut as the guest (I don't remember which one) and, being the Bob and Tom show, they asked this exact question.
The answer to my recollection was something like "No. Well wait, you mean with other people? Then No." And then the hosts made hay of the implication that sex with oneself was not specifically excluded. The Astronaut didn't deny this.
The release of the fake documents was _not_ due to the 24 hour news cycle. It was shoddy journalism. We now know that at least two of the four experts CBS conferred with questioned it's authenticity. 60 Minutes alumni such as Morley Safer and Andy Rooney have gone on the record saying they would not have run the story.
Furthermore, you hadly have to be right-wing to want to "expose" (why is this in quotes? are you suggesting right wing bloggers knew ahead of time Rove faked these?) the document as fake. Anybody without a left-wing slant could buy into why they were phony. This group includes: people with a right wing slant, moderates, left wing people not blinded by ideology.
As far as discrediting the "left wing media" (there's those quotes again), If Rather wanted to believe those documents so bad that we was willing forego journalistic rigor, he deserves to be discredited. My turn for quotes: If we play devil's advocate and assume Rove was really behind this, his plan wouldn't have progressed an inch if any professional "journalism" was taking place at CBS.
One last thing. Rove is noted for this kind of thing, and it's at least plausible that he really was behind it, I won't deny that. But that doesn't let CBS off the hook or indict "right wing" bloggers.
You just named four different unix platform scripting languages, and then complained about _Microsoft_ reinventing the wheel.
Anyway, what's the problem? It's not written in stone anywhere that thou shalt use the one true scripting method, and who knows if there's a better way unless people try different things? Even if it sucks we have Cygwin already, so people can use any Unix shell that makes them more productive.
How old are we talking? Firefox runs like a dog on my 450Mhz G3 OS X box, so I end up using Safari. On some of the older *nix machines I have lying around (ex. 200Mhz Indigo2/Irix), I'm still using NS4.x because Mozilla/Firefox is unusably slow.
I have not tried it on any Windows version, regarding older machines. Maybe it's a Windows port thing. This is all anecdotal of course.
I absolutely agree, this has been my experience as well. I went from maybe a CD a year to buying CDs monthly, nearly exclusively based on things I've downloaded. I'm fortunate to have some disposable income lately, and I have been buying anywhere from one to four CDs a month now.
Here's the thing though: The stuff I buy now is largely non-RIAA. I don't blame them for hating file sharing, it's seriously damaged their ability to force feed us SHIT. They can't keep their current business model and win. They are losing a sale when kids download an MP3 rather than badger their parents for money to buy the whole crappy CD. The P2P crack in their distribution monopoly is letting people find and recommend non-RIAA material to their friends--they still rely on word of mouth to promote albums.
I firmly believe that P2P is great for the following: music lovers, (good) music creators, and culture. It would be good for them too if they just did their fucking job and acted as an agent to the public, facilitating the discovery and promotion of quality artists. But then they couldn't screw us for as much money as possible.
This is not a troll, I really don't understand this: when you are producing waste that remains toxic for a longer amount of time than the entire duration of human civilization, by what metric is it considered environmentally friendly?
This is not about men and psychological issues about their penis.
Multiple polls in the USA have shown that women largely prefer SUVs over other vehicles. According to industry research, FORTY PERCENT of suv buyers are female: source
It has also been found that, all other things being equal, the average female will find the male with the SUV more attractive than with any other vehicle. (source is Men's Health magazine).
So please, this is not about "male inferiority", women are a HUGE part of this problem, both because of their buying habits and how they affect the buying habits of men.
_Your_ argument seems to hinge upon restriction==penalty. It doesn't. The LAW tells me this. "restriction" is a well-defined legal term. It's more general than a penalty. It's a contractual limitation in this case. Sveasoft will cancel your subscription if you redistribute, which is clearly a contractual limitation. The GPL forbids this:
"You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein."
Some other people are claiming that this ONLY means Sveasoft can't tell you you can't redistribute the software you already have, which would be a violation of the GPL. I don't see it say this ANYWHERE. I just see the GPL saying you can't place contractual limitations on the recipient's right to distribute, which is exactly what Sveasoft is doing. Because you aren't getting everything you paid for if there weren't terms attached to your redistributing their software.
It would be different if they weren't using a subscription model because if they just sold the firmware to you, you'd have all the software you were contractually obliged to receive, and they would have no WAY to restrict your usage of it.
How can you assume they are underage, when they are not in photo images of real human, but merely some drawings born from imagination?
I don't have to assume. Characters in middle school are not adults. characters in school living with their parents are not adults. Characters who have their age explicitly stated as under 18 are not adults.
Do you insist on 'human rights' of those imaginary drawings?
No. Where do you draw that inference?
Surely there are cartoons that are intentionally made to look like underage, but if you read Japanese language you'll find that none of them explicitly state that they are underage by themselves.
I have been consuming manga for over ten years, and you are wrong.
Even in the real world, do you know there are places in Tokyo where girls of 18 and over wear school uniform and pour alcohol to glasses?
Yes. I have been to said places. Have you?
Look, if you want to argue that in comics, people can be adults and look like children and go to school like children and not drive cars like children in modern Japan, or that in magic comic world age 14* is legal adulthood so there's no problem, that's OK. Some people argue that. I don't care, no kids are being hurt by this stuff being published. But don't say something that isn't true. These comics are clearly depicting minors.
*14 has been age of consent in Japan until very recently so even then it's not a problem in most cases.
It only records 5 seconds worth of data, and stops when you hit something. I'd be more worried if it recorded 24 hours and had GPS in it. I am worried if it has no tamper protection though.
the apparent youth of the manga characters is illusory- the Japanese consider the characters to be older than Americans do- there are some cultural differences relating to reducing sun exposure in Japanese women and physical differences that tends to make them look younger to western eyes than they really are.
This is not true. Many characters in hentai manga are in high school, even middle school. I couldn't count the number of manga where the main character is 14 and appears nude or in sex acts.
The sexual objectification of pre-adult girls is a well documented part of japanese culture. This is not disputed. 23 is literally "over the hill" in the sex industry there.
As for Richard Stallman's "Free but shackled: The Java trap," it's hard to know where to begin. He has his own rather peculiar definition of "free" that I think violates the First Law of Thermodynamics (energy is conserved): Developers put a huge amount of energy into creating software, and if they can't get that energy back in a way that balances, then the system falls apart.
Art doesn't obey the first law of thermodynamics either. Some people put their whole life, unrecognized, into creating art, and when they are long gone, their work is still with us. COMPENSATION and BUSINESS obey the 1st law of thermodynamics, but that is by no means the only driving force behind people.
Corporations cannot use the 'bill of rights' since corporations have never explicitly been given any 'rights'.
Sure they can. Rulings have the weight of law. People who promote judicial activism should keep situations like this in mind, but they don't. Some day, judicial activism is gonna overrule Roe vs. Wade and the shit is gonna hit the fan, but it's gonna be their fault that it was possible. It's somewhat interesting that the people promoting the principle see neither what it will reap in the future, nor what it's already accomplished in the past.
1) if I am concerned about privacy, I not only care how it is used, I care about how it can be MISUSED.
2) if it was for tracking, would the government tell you? If they plan on using it for tracking, would they tell you that? As a matter of fact, it can be used for tracking and the best they can do is promise that they won't, which carries no weight since anything about me that's tracked can be subpoena'd.
Based on what you've said, projects in lisp are the most difficult to maintain, and projects in BASIC are the easiest. I've never met anyone who has actually seen both in use who did not claim the opposite was true.
VB programmers outnumber lisp programmers probably 80,000 to 1, most of who are incapable of maintaining a lisp application. You are looking at the wrong end of the equation.
but this is entirely outside the point. To get back on track,
Personally, I don't see why people seem to think iteration and mutability is so much better an recursion over immutable structures.
They don't think iteration is better. They just don't care that recursive might be better, and never learned lisp because recursion is the elegant solution, not the obvious solution. The obvious solution works fine 90% of the time, which more than covers the footwork you do in the 10% when you have to solve a non-obvious problem.
This came out of a thread where "intuitive" was being confused with "elegant", which is common with people who learn something so well (like lisp) that it becomes second nature. Lisp is recognized as elegant and simple AFTER you learn it, but BASIC is close to english and so is fairly intuitive to english speakers. As to whether BASIC is more maintainable than lisp on the merits of language alone, I make no claims. My examples were merely to demonstrate that there is a continuum of "intuitiveness" to a simple command in many languages, and your example proved far superior to mine for demonstrating why lisp is unintuitive compared to "LET X = 0|X = X + 1".
DRM would help the legitimate user here. None of those applications would have the ability to assist in copying and that DRM protected game.
additionally by my understanding of TCPA, DRMed applications cannot necessarily be aware of another application's mere EXISTENCE on a PC unless there is a granted trust relationship between the programs. And if Nero (DRM enabled or not) can't make a usable copy of a DRMed game on a DRM system, they have no motivation to go the extra step and request that trust relationship with those applications.
I think there are quite a few advantages to DRM, but to many people (myself included) the lack of control over one's own machine is disconcerting. But in this case, a law-abiding user wouldn't have a problem on a DRM system.
Personally, I don't see why people seem to think iteration and mutability is so much better an recursion over immutable structures.
What's to understand? You have a continuum of "high level" programming languages that go from human language-like (BASIC) to not very human-like (LisP).
Likewise, I'd say that language flexibility is the inverse of this, with LisP being on the high end, and BASIC being on the low end.
There's a tradeoff between what people are gonna implicitly understand and what's more powerful, and everyone, depending on their situation, is going to decide where the best compromise is. Visual Basic is easy to read and understand, C is iterative and procedural and easy to flowchart. LisP is powerful and flexible and requires discipline if you want to take advantage of the language.
X = X + 1
int x=0; ++x;
(let ((x 1))((setq x (+ x 1)))
Which one's better? I don't know, whatever works best for your skill level. Anyone with a 6th grade education can read the BASIC, C isn't hard to learn if you can handle flowcharts, and lisp is a screwed up mess until you understand lisp, because nobody was taught math in reverse polish notation, and they don't naturally see problems recursively, that's something that comes with experience.
I'd love to solve problems using lisp, but the fact of the matter is, the performance gain is nil (pun (not intended)), and the utility is actually reduced by the fact that other people of varying skill levels have to read and understand it in a fixed amount of time.
And you are an idiot for missing the point entirely. It wasn't a desktop, and even if you compared it to DOS, it couldn't read floppy disks and had no productivity software.
I'm no idiot, but you've successfully demonstrated you're a dick.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT Message-ID: Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?
Look at that date, October 1991. That's incredible. It was ready for the desktop since 1991, according to you.
Not according to this site, http://ragib.hypermart.net/linux/ And I quote: "By December came version 0.10. Still Linux was little more than in skeletal form. It had only support for AT hard disks, had no login ( booted directly to bash). version 0.11 was much better with support for multilingual keyboards, floppy disk drivers, support for VGA,EGA, Hercules etc."
So basically, in 1991, LINUX DID NOT EVEN HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONING FLOPPY DRIVER OR EVEN EGA SUPPORT, and it was "ready" for the desktop? You have taken mindless Linux evangelism to a brand new level of insanity.
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It's because the bulk of the red states are in the midwest, and the midwest is BORING AS DIRT.
By the way, I didn't mean to imply that you were responsible for that, poor wording on my part.
Whoever wrote that in Gamepro out and out lied. They literally said that they tried it and it worked. No one actually takes video game articles seriously from a truth perspective, so I suppose the stakes aren't high, but it rubbed me the wrong way.
My biggest complaint against Gamepro had always been the fluff reviews, almost everything got a good score. At the time (1993-4? roughly) EGM was at the top of the ballgame, reviews were fairly in-depth and were pretty critical. Even if a game is good, it still might only deserve a 6.5/10 or something, simply because it's not challenging enough, and you quit playing after a few days. EGM is crap now too. I honestly haven't looked at gamepro in years, but even a few years ago my impression was that most game magazines weren't differentiating themselves enough.
It's my feeling that with superaccelerated schedules now, and the extremely high amounts of money that have to be pumped into fancy 3D games with cutscenes and CD-quality music, critical standards for games should be MUCH higher than they have ever been before. Higher aspirations have further to fall, I guess.
Thanks for your considerate response.
Hey, remember that time EGM had the April Fools Day gag where they said they unlocked a hidden character "Sheng Long" in the arcade version of Street Fighter II CE, complete with faked screenshots? And then Gamepro wrote up an article on how you "confirmed" the "rumors", and that the secret character was real? And then EGM admitted they made the whole thing up?
HILARIOUS!
From an editorial standpoint, Gamepro has NEVER had any credibility.
I will throw one bone though, Gamepro's SFII guide with character moves, combos and strengh/fighting matrix was top notch. Stick to strategy guides.
Dude, they are your laws. If they are so bad, why did you guys pass them?
Read the original post to understand why. It was complaining that Linux distros listed higher system requirements than Windows XP, which listed 300Mhz as it's requirement. Your parent post said "try it in a 300Mhz.", knowing full well that Linux distros are more honest about their requirements than Microsoft. I have personally run Red Hat Linux just fine on a 486SX-25Mhz, so I can attest to this.
And anyway, I have three 500Mhz machines sitting around. They would all make a perfectly usable desktop under Linux. Why? That's 350 dollars I don't have to chuck in the dumpster for something I don't need. 350 dollars is still a lot of money where I come from.
I was listening to the Bob and Tom show on the radio one time, and they had an astronaut as the guest (I don't remember which one) and, being the Bob and Tom show, they asked this exact question.
The answer to my recollection was something like "No. Well wait, you mean with other people? Then No." And then the hosts made hay of the implication that sex with oneself was not specifically excluded. The Astronaut didn't deny this.
The release of the fake documents was _not_ due to the 24 hour news cycle. It was shoddy journalism. We now know that at least two of the four experts CBS conferred with questioned it's authenticity. 60 Minutes alumni such as Morley Safer and Andy Rooney have gone on the record saying they would not have run the story.
Furthermore, you hadly have to be right-wing to want to "expose" (why is this in quotes? are you suggesting right wing bloggers knew ahead of time Rove faked these?) the document as fake. Anybody without a left-wing slant could buy into why they were phony. This group includes: people with a right wing slant, moderates, left wing people not blinded by ideology.
As far as discrediting the "left wing media" (there's those quotes again), If Rather wanted to believe those documents so bad that we was willing forego journalistic rigor, he deserves to be discredited. My turn for quotes: If we play devil's advocate and assume Rove was really behind this, his plan wouldn't have progressed an inch if any professional "journalism" was taking place at CBS.
One last thing. Rove is noted for this kind of thing, and it's at least plausible that he really was behind it, I won't deny that. But that doesn't let CBS off the hook or indict "right wing" bloggers.
You just named four different unix platform scripting languages, and then complained about _Microsoft_ reinventing the wheel.
Anyway, what's the problem? It's not written in stone anywhere that thou shalt use the one true scripting method, and who knows if there's a better way unless people try different things? Even if it sucks we have Cygwin already, so people can use any Unix shell that makes them more productive.
Linking to public nudity pics on Slashdot is not advised. Guess I'll have to settle for "Burning Server".
How old are we talking? Firefox runs like a dog on my 450Mhz G3 OS X box, so I end up using Safari. On some of the older *nix machines I have lying around (ex. 200Mhz Indigo2/Irix), I'm still using NS4.x because Mozilla/Firefox is unusably slow.
I have not tried it on any Windows version, regarding older machines. Maybe it's a Windows port thing. This is all anecdotal of course.
Here's the thing though: The stuff I buy now is largely non-RIAA. I don't blame them for hating file sharing, it's seriously damaged their ability to force feed us SHIT. They can't keep their current business model and win. They are losing a sale when kids download an MP3 rather than badger their parents for money to buy the whole crappy CD. The P2P crack in their distribution monopoly is letting people find and recommend non-RIAA material to their friends--they still rely on word of mouth to promote albums.
I firmly believe that P2P is great for the following: music lovers, (good) music creators, and culture. It would be good for them too if they just did their fucking job and acted as an agent to the public, facilitating the discovery and promotion of quality artists. But then they couldn't screw us for as much money as possible.
This is not a troll, I really don't understand this: when you are producing waste that remains toxic for a longer amount of time than the entire duration of human civilization, by what metric is it considered environmentally friendly?
Multiple polls in the USA have shown that women largely prefer SUVs over other vehicles. According to industry research, FORTY PERCENT of suv buyers are female:
source
It has also been found that, all other things being equal, the average female will find the male with the SUV more attractive than with any other vehicle. (source is Men's Health magazine).
So please, this is not about "male inferiority", women are a HUGE part of this problem, both because of their buying habits and how they affect the buying habits of men.
_Your_ argument seems to hinge upon restriction==penalty. It doesn't. The LAW tells me this. "restriction" is a well-defined legal term. It's more general than a penalty. It's a contractual limitation in this case. Sveasoft will cancel your subscription if you redistribute, which is clearly a contractual limitation. The GPL forbids this:
"You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein."
Some other people are claiming that this ONLY means Sveasoft can't tell you you can't redistribute the software you already have, which would be a violation of the GPL. I don't see it say this ANYWHERE. I just see the GPL saying you can't place contractual limitations on the recipient's right to distribute, which is exactly what Sveasoft is doing. Because you aren't getting everything you paid for if there weren't terms attached to your redistributing their software.
It would be different if they weren't using a subscription model because if they just sold the firmware to you, you'd have all the software you were contractually obliged to receive, and they would have no WAY to restrict your usage of it.
I don't have to assume. Characters in middle school are not adults. characters in school living with their parents are not adults. Characters who have their age explicitly stated as under 18 are not adults.
Do you insist on 'human rights' of those imaginary drawings?
No. Where do you draw that inference?
Surely there are cartoons that are intentionally made to look like underage, but if you read Japanese language you'll find that none of them explicitly state that they are underage by themselves.
I have been consuming manga for over ten years, and you are wrong.
Even in the real world, do you know there are places in Tokyo where girls of 18 and over wear school uniform and pour alcohol to glasses?
Yes. I have been to said places. Have you?
Look, if you want to argue that in comics, people can be adults and look like children and go to school like children and not drive cars like children in modern Japan, or that in magic comic world age 14* is legal adulthood so there's no problem, that's OK. Some people argue that. I don't care, no kids are being hurt by this stuff being published. But don't say something that isn't true. These comics are clearly depicting minors.
*14 has been age of consent in Japan until very recently so even then it's not a problem in most cases.
It only records 5 seconds worth of data, and stops when you hit something. I'd be more worried if it recorded 24 hours and had GPS in it. I am worried if it has no tamper protection though.
This is not true. Many characters in hentai manga are in high school, even middle school. I couldn't count the number of manga where the main character is 14 and appears nude or in sex acts.
The sexual objectification of pre-adult girls is a well documented part of japanese culture. This is not disputed. 23 is literally "over the hill" in the sex industry there.
Art doesn't obey the first law of thermodynamics either. Some people put their whole life, unrecognized, into creating art, and when they are long gone, their work is still with us. COMPENSATION and BUSINESS obey the 1st law of thermodynamics, but that is by no means the only driving force behind people.
Sure they can. Rulings have the weight of law. People who promote judicial activism should keep situations like this in mind, but they don't. Some day, judicial activism is gonna overrule Roe vs. Wade and the shit is gonna hit the fan, but it's gonna be their fault that it was possible. It's somewhat interesting that the people promoting the principle see neither what it will reap in the future, nor what it's already accomplished in the past.
1) if I am concerned about privacy, I not only care how it is used, I care about how it can be MISUSED.
2) if it was for tracking, would the government tell you? If they plan on using it for tracking, would they tell you that? As a matter of fact, it can be used for tracking and the best they can do is promise that they won't, which carries no weight since anything about me that's tracked can be subpoena'd.
VB programmers outnumber lisp programmers probably 80,000 to 1, most of who are incapable of maintaining a lisp application. You are looking at the wrong end of the equation.
but this is entirely outside the point. To get back on track,
Personally, I don't see why people seem to think iteration and mutability is so much better an recursion over immutable structures.
They don't think iteration is better. They just don't care that recursive might be better, and never learned lisp because recursion is the elegant solution, not the obvious solution. The obvious solution works fine 90% of the time, which more than covers the footwork you do in the 10% when you have to solve a non-obvious problem.
This came out of a thread where "intuitive" was being confused with "elegant", which is common with people who learn something so well (like lisp) that it becomes second nature. Lisp is recognized as elegant and simple AFTER you learn it, but BASIC is close to english and so is fairly intuitive to english speakers. As to whether BASIC is more maintainable than lisp on the merits of language alone, I make no claims. My examples were merely to demonstrate that there is a continuum of "intuitiveness" to a simple command in many languages, and your example proved far superior to mine for demonstrating why lisp is unintuitive compared to "LET X = 0|X = X + 1".
DRM would help the legitimate user here. None of those applications would have the ability to assist in copying and that DRM protected game.
additionally by my understanding of TCPA, DRMed applications cannot necessarily be aware of another application's mere EXISTENCE on a PC unless there is a granted trust relationship between the programs. And if Nero (DRM enabled or not) can't make a usable copy of a DRMed game on a DRM system, they have no motivation to go the extra step and request that trust relationship with those applications.
I think there are quite a few advantages to DRM, but to many people (myself included) the lack of control over one's own machine is disconcerting. But in this case, a law-abiding user wouldn't have a problem on a DRM system.
What's to understand? You have a continuum of "high level" programming languages that go from human language-like (BASIC) to not very human-like (LisP). Likewise, I'd say that language flexibility is the inverse of this, with LisP being on the high end, and BASIC being on the low end.
There's a tradeoff between what people are gonna implicitly understand and what's more powerful, and everyone, depending on their situation, is going to decide where the best compromise is. Visual Basic is easy to read and understand, C is iterative and procedural and easy to flowchart. LisP is powerful and flexible and requires discipline if you want to take advantage of the language.
X = X + 1
int x=0; ++x;
(let ((x 1))((setq x (+ x 1)))
Which one's better? I don't know, whatever works best for your skill level. Anyone with a 6th grade education can read the BASIC, C isn't hard to learn if you can handle flowcharts, and lisp is a screwed up mess until you understand lisp, because nobody was taught math in reverse polish notation, and they don't naturally see problems recursively, that's something that comes with experience.
I'd love to solve problems using lisp, but the fact of the matter is, the performance gain is nil (pun (not intended)), and the utility is actually reduced by the fact that other people of varying skill levels have to read and understand it in a fixed amount of time.
And you are an idiot for missing the point entirely. It wasn't a desktop, and even if you compared it to DOS, it couldn't read floppy disks and had no productivity software.
I'm no idiot, but you've successfully demonstrated you're a dick.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
Message-ID:
Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?
Look at that date, October 1991. That's incredible. It was ready for the desktop since 1991, according to you.
Not according to this site, http://ragib.hypermart.net/linux/
And I quote: "By December came version 0.10. Still Linux was little more than in skeletal form. It had only support for AT hard disks, had no login ( booted directly to bash). version 0.11 was much better with support for multilingual keyboards, floppy disk drivers, support for VGA,EGA, Hercules etc."
So basically, in 1991, LINUX DID NOT EVEN HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONING FLOPPY DRIVER OR EVEN EGA SUPPORT, and it was "ready" for the desktop? You have taken mindless Linux evangelism to a brand new level of insanity.