Actually, I use the Adium messenger client and it's there too. AOL just added them to your buddy list, which is stored on their servers and retrieved upon login.
And the first thing I did was delete them. I don't need some "shopping buddy" to automatically add themselves and promote buying over their network. Someone missed the ethics boat on this one.
Re:PS3? No thanks, Sony; you screwed the pooch
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Sad state of affairs? If Microsoft had engineered an operating system with the maximum security that allowed for performance and basically stayed out of the users way, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm not absolving Sony of their misdeeds or trying to refocus the attention, but let's not call it a "sad state of affairs" simply because MS is doing what they were supposed to do a long time ago. Despite their intentions, they're doing it.
I know this is offtopic, but maybe others could help out those of us on Safari 2 (Tiger 10.4.3). I want to use custom CSS for slashdot, but only slashdot. Is there a way to do this? Easily (ala context menu)? And where can i get additional css files to use with slashdot?
my point, and some have gotten the wrong impression was this: you pay the subscription, and you keep getting updates. Done correctly and you have a happy user base.
for example Apple. You bought Panther & recieved bug fixes / updates You bought Jaguar & recieved bug fixes / updates You bought Tiger & recieved bug fixes / updates You'll buy Leopard & will recieve bug fixes / updates.
I didn't mean to say you should pay for bug fixes, just the major updates (ala the Apple example).
There's just one problem. This perception of the software-as-services model is a jaundiced misrepresentation of the way that on-demand applications actually work. No on-demand customer pays simply for the privilege of accessing the software. They pay because the software delivers business results. And that simple distinction exposes once and for all the clay feet, the emperor's new clothes, of the traditional applications software industry. Their products don't actually work until they've been tweaked and customized by customers or partners, and therefore the licence of itself has no out-of-the-box value to the end user. Asking people to pay for the privilege of using the software isn't offering a service, it's taking a liberty. It's as much of a nonsense as asking a punter to pay a performance fee for whistling a copyrighted tune. If I'm paying a fee to watch a movie, listen to a song, or use an application, I expect to experience a professional, finished execution.
True on-demand application vendors understand this. Conventional software vendors seem to think the world still owes them a living, just for bothering to write some software.
This article sounds as if the guy was jaded from the start. His complaints are similar to those people who first scoffed at the notion of leasing a car instead of buying it. Some may consider it foolish, but some also see the benefits. In my experience you can lease a car for 12 months, have the "owner" of the car (or software) continually maintain it when it needs it.
This guy is just trolling. The article is slanted because he believes that once written, any bugs, flaws (as in it doesn't do this the _way_ it should for ME) should all be done for free simply because he or general consumers are greedy. To a point, bug fixes should be fixed like glaring security flaws that could be used to take over your computer (ala windows in general, yes I'm biased) or damage your information etc.
But get real. If you paid ONCE for your anti-virus software and expected it to work flawlessly and capture all viruses, worms etc without having to pay extra every year to maintain that reliability you're just out of your mind. There is no incentive to keep something up for free especially in an evolving industry. One that evolves and almost 2-5 times the normal rate of other industries.
Think of it this way. You pay a subscription service similar to that of an anti-virus vendor. Receive continual updates, bug fixes, serious flaws get fixed for an annual price. This ensures the developers can work and continue to live as well. Why not? If you don't pay for the next years license, you simply don't get major version upgrades (maybe a serious bug fix or service pack) or new "features".
I'm not keen on the idea of keeping your apps on a server/central location, unless it's on my home network and I have the option to install it centrally or on each workstation. It's just foolish to do it that way. But this guy's "it's mine, I want it all forever" after a simple purchase doesn't cut it. Want that new fender or tires? They're better quality than the current tires you have, then pay for them. Don't expect it for free buddy.
This guy really pissed me off. And I have a football game to watch.
Wasn't there a "presentation" software available for the Mac that wasn't PowerPoint, but something else? I can't seem to recall what it was, but now that I have a Mac - could someone point out to me what it's called?
And people look at me when I rant on about the restrictions the govt has and I wonder HOW in the world the people let this happen.
Oh that's right! People could care less when their MTV works so they can watch survivor or the latest csi/real world/shit tv. There's a difference between extreme nationalism and having pride in your country and being able to stand up for the rights of the people. It's quite disturbing when people look at me for not being that mindless sheep because it's all for our "security" and "safety".
I call bullshit. You people just have your frat parties, clubbing, care-free fucking lifestyle and let the rest of us citizens run the country so you can eat and get fat from McHeartAttacks while you watch your pornos and beat your wife & kids. Damn, quit voting for these fucktards and falling for their lies!
To cast an online ballot, voters need a special ID card, a $24 device that reads the card and a computer with Internet access. About 80 percent of Estonian voters have the ID cards, which have been used since 2002 for online access to bank accounts and tax records.
Election committee officials said the ID card system had proved effective and reliable and dismissed any security concerns with using it for the online ballot.
Information is sparse, but does anyone know if votes were linked to who voted for what? And what kind of proof can we find that voting a particular way won't involve retaliation...? I'd like this in the USA, but I'm unsure/adjusts tin-foil hat
Not exactly. I have camera systems installed with their own independant power/ups source and computer that only ONE computer can access because it's a closed network. and even that has encrypted traffic from the server to the system.
Not that I spy on anyone, but I do check to see if a camera was activated via motion sensor in the logs when I know no one will be home. And since I'm the only one who lives in my home, that's fairly darn often and usually "off hours" activitiy are relayed to my mobile phone via sms.
I think I would notice if someone did "raid" my house.
No, by far it is not. I share a network connection with an off campus communications provider where there are plenty of people who visit and post here. There are a few trolls and since we all share the same outgoing IP address, I get blocked as well.
I have a subscription, I get downmodded for my "unpopular" views unfairly at times, but the majority of them are just fine. My karma is still Excellent! so wtf?
They better start changing some of the ways things work around here... I had to use an "other" isp, my neighbor that wasn't on the lame network, to post here even!
Not that I disagree with you, but if you could explain how the consitiution, if enforced, would be adequate (with or without extra "law(s)" or (an) "amendment(s)", it would be extremely beneficial not just to me, but to others who've seen your highly scored moderated comment.
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I... can't... retort... with... anything... snappy...
**head explodes**
My bad, i forgot the x on that.
http://www.adiumx.com/ is what I use.
carry on!
Actually, I use the Adium messenger client and it's there too. AOL just added them to your buddy list, which is stored on their servers and retrieved upon login.
And the first thing I did was delete them. I don't need some "shopping buddy" to automatically add themselves and promote buying over their network. Someone missed the ethics boat on this one.
Sad state of affairs? If Microsoft had engineered an operating system with the maximum security that allowed for performance and basically stayed out of the users way, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm not absolving Sony of their misdeeds or trying to refocus the attention, but let's not call it a "sad state of affairs" simply because MS is doing what they were supposed to do a long time ago. Despite their intentions, they're doing it.
I know this is offtopic, but maybe others could help out those of us on Safari 2 (Tiger 10.4.3). I want to use custom CSS for slashdot, but only slashdot. Is there a way to do this? Easily (ala context menu)? And where can i get additional css files to use with slashdot?
Thanks.
It's born...
$ony. Much like Micro$oft.
finally they're on the same page of evil.
Troll? No... funny maybe, but definitely not troll. Come on mods!
they're not dead yet.
You're not fooling anyone.
But I don't want to get in the cart.
You'll be stone dead in a moment
I feeeel Haaapyyyy
WHAM
whoa, someone needs to lay off the caffeine
american express does this if I'm not mistaken.
my point, and some have gotten the wrong impression was this: you pay the subscription, and you keep getting updates. Done correctly and you have a happy user base.
for example Apple.
You bought Panther & recieved bug fixes / updates
You bought Jaguar & recieved bug fixes / updates
You bought Tiger & recieved bug fixes / updates
You'll buy Leopard & will recieve bug fixes / updates.
I didn't mean to say you should pay for bug fixes, just the major updates (ala the Apple example).
Very true, I believe I addressed that in my post previous.
I agree with you on this.
There's just one problem. This perception of the software-as-services model is a jaundiced misrepresentation of the way that on-demand applications actually work. No on-demand customer pays simply for the privilege of accessing the software. They pay because the software delivers business results. And that simple distinction exposes once and for all the clay feet, the emperor's new clothes, of the traditional applications software industry. Their products don't actually work until they've been tweaked and customized by customers or partners, and therefore the licence of itself has no out-of-the-box value to the end user. Asking people to pay for the privilege of using the software isn't offering a service, it's taking a liberty. It's as much of a nonsense as asking a punter to pay a performance fee for whistling a copyrighted tune. If I'm paying a fee to watch a movie, listen to a song, or use an application, I expect to experience a professional, finished execution.
True on-demand application vendors understand this. Conventional software vendors seem to think the world still owes them a living, just for bothering to write some software.
This article sounds as if the guy was jaded from the start. His complaints are similar to those people who first scoffed at the notion of leasing a car instead of buying it. Some may consider it foolish, but some also see the benefits. In my experience you can lease a car for 12 months, have the "owner" of the car (or software) continually maintain it when it needs it.
Don't read too deeply in on that analogy, please.
But BOTHERING to write some software? By us Bothering to write some software you have some of the best software out there that's been used to secure most of the IT infrastructure the world runs on. Apache, The Linux Kernel, The Various BSD's, SQL Databases, Iptables, SNORT IDS software, OpenSSL, and many many more!
This guy is just trolling. The article is slanted because he believes that once written, any bugs, flaws (as in it doesn't do this the _way_ it should for ME) should all be done for free simply because he or general consumers are greedy. To a point, bug fixes should be fixed like glaring security flaws that could be used to take over your computer (ala windows in general, yes I'm biased) or damage your information etc.
But get real. If you paid ONCE for your anti-virus software and expected it to work flawlessly and capture all viruses, worms etc without having to pay extra every year to maintain that reliability you're just out of your mind. There is no incentive to keep something up for free especially in an evolving industry. One that evolves and almost 2-5 times the normal rate of other industries.
Think of it this way. You pay a subscription service similar to that of an anti-virus vendor. Receive continual updates, bug fixes, serious flaws get fixed for an annual price. This ensures the developers can work and continue to live as well. Why not? If you don't pay for the next years license, you simply don't get major version upgrades (maybe a serious bug fix or service pack) or new "features".
I'm not keen on the idea of keeping your apps on a server/central location, unless it's on my home network and I have the option to install it centrally or on each workstation. It's just foolish to do it that way. But this guy's "it's mine, I want it all forever" after a simple purchase doesn't cut it. Want that new fender or tires? They're better quality than the current tires you have, then pay for them. Don't expect it for free buddy.
This guy really pissed me off. And I have a football game to watch.
Thanks!
porn, ala visual cues won't work on women as effectively as it does for men. men are turned on with visual cues, women are more auditory/emotional.
Try talking to her.
Wasn't there a "presentation" software available for the Mac that wasn't PowerPoint, but something else? I can't seem to recall what it was, but now that I have a Mac - could someone point out to me what it's called?
Anyone?
I agree with you man.
Power to the people.
And people look at me when I rant on about the restrictions the govt has and I wonder HOW in the world the people let this happen.
Oh that's right! People could care less when their MTV works so they can watch survivor or the latest csi/real world/shit tv. There's a difference between extreme nationalism and having pride in your country and being able to stand up for the rights of the people. It's quite disturbing when people look at me for not being that mindless sheep because it's all for our "security" and "safety".
I call bullshit. You people just have your frat parties, clubbing, care-free fucking lifestyle and let the rest of us citizens run the country so you can eat and get fat from McHeartAttacks while you watch your pornos and beat your wife & kids. Damn, quit voting for these fucktards and falling for their lies!
To cast an online ballot, voters need a special ID card, a $24 device that reads the card and a computer with Internet access. About 80 percent of Estonian voters have the ID cards, which have been used since 2002 for online access to bank accounts and tax records.
/adjusts tin-foil hat
Election committee officials said the ID card system had proved effective and reliable and dismissed any security concerns with using it for the online ballot.
Information is sparse, but does anyone know if votes were linked to who voted for what? And what kind of proof can we find that voting a particular way won't involve retaliation...? I'd like this in the USA, but I'm unsure
Not exactly. I have camera systems installed with their own independant power/ups source and computer that only ONE computer can access because it's a closed network. and even that has encrypted traffic from the server to the system.
Not that I spy on anyone, but I do check to see if a camera was activated via motion sensor in the logs when I know no one will be home. And since I'm the only one who lives in my home, that's fairly darn often and usually "off hours" activitiy are relayed to my mobile phone via sms.
I think I would notice if someone did "raid" my house.
No, by far it is not. I share a network connection with an off campus communications provider where there are plenty of people who visit and post here. There are a few trolls and since we all share the same outgoing IP address, I get blocked as well.
I have a subscription, I get downmodded for my "unpopular" views unfairly at times, but the majority of them are just fine. My karma is still Excellent! so wtf?
They better start changing some of the ways things work around here... I had to use an "other" isp, my neighbor that wasn't on the lame network, to post here even!
no more game ads on the front page, or at all.
good grief!
(Definitely not trolling in a negative way here)
Not that I disagree with you, but if you could explain how the consitiution, if enforced, would be adequate (with or without extra "law(s)" or (an) "amendment(s)", it would be extremely beneficial not just to me, but to others who've seen your highly scored moderated comment.
I for one welcome this discussion!
since when did google gmail open their smtp servers for outgoing mail?w er=13287 for the uninformed!
why it's right here http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ans
This will work on a Windows computer I'm certian but, I failed to remember however, to say that I'm using a Mac at the moment.