Look up globalization. China's predicted to become one of the worlds most powerful countries in 10-20 years. It and much of the rest of the world is no longer limited to exporting blue collar goods.
Search engines use a similar variation of the idea that trusted sources lead to accurate results (PageRank & TrustRank). However anything can get manipulated. Search engine rankings are always abused. And look at DMOZ - editors that act as gatekeepers for submissions demand money. Corruption is rampant on DMOZ. But maybe wikipedia has too little commercial motivation to lead to high levels of corruption. The whole colbert thing with african elephants seemed like a good test of the system and wikipedia did a good job of combatting the vandalism./rant off
Lake Express was definitely a victim of abuse by SS Badger. Pretty funny comments!
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Exp ress&diff=72406828&oldid=72405352
The ferry's operational season has been a bit of an embarrasement for the owner's of the company. When first launched the company announced that the ferry would operate each season until December 31. Because of lack of fall ridership and many press reports of sea sickness earlier in the year, the ferry's operations were ended in October during the first year (2004). In 2005 the company announced they had a plan to make it to the end of the year through better promotion. In 2005 the company was again forced to end their season early as the ship did not seem well equipt to make it in the Gales of November.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Exp ress&diff=72437357&oldid=72436565
In August 2006 several trips were cancelled because of waves and mechanical problems. The vessel was only running on three of its four engines and halted all trips for passenger comfort due to wave conditions. All ferry service was halted to fix mechanical issues on August 15 through August 18.
...Not one example is given in this article of how far the 'witch hunt' has gone. But a lot of opinions on why the witch hunt should stop are given. If executives have nothing to hide then why fight the investigation. And given the light of recent wrongdoings it makes sense that an investigation exists.
Slashdot sucks...seriously. Karma be damed but it needs to be said sometimes. Colbert's story is a day old. Colbert's idea didn't backfire. He spent a mere few minutes talking about Wikipedia and made his point. Left unchecked, Wikipedia can be rife with falsehoods. The elephants page is now correct but that's not to say the rest of the site is accurate. It's news that Colbert went so far as to do a segment on Wikipedia. Only a troll would say Colbert's story backfired, or a website trying to stir up attention.
That's exactly what we don't need, a system that can be easily manipulated. Your Zagat style idea exists, it's called Yahoo and it's not a scaleable way to order results. DMOZ is another example and that site is ridden with corruption. An algo has to assume people are untrustworthy and not invite manual manipulation. To that end, Google & Yahoo do manually edit bad results.
PageRank is one of hundreds of factors. Up to about 2002, Google's algo heavily relied on the PageRank. A lot has changed since then. It's no longer realistic to use websites to artificially inflate your pagerank & improve rankings. One way Google recognizes spam is through historically tracking links. An unnatural growth of inbound links will create penalties. So don't get hung up on pagerank. Too many other more important factors go into search results today to where it's inexcusable to blame positioning on pagerank or the idea that links can be used to easily manipulate results.
Pagerank has been dead for quite a while. Do a search for "pagerank is dead", you will find articles going back to 2004 about PR being an ineffective tool to use for SEO.
Also, the sandbox is less of a mystery since Matt Cutts said they recognized behavior consistent with a sandbox. New sites are not given fair treatment and appear to be penalized.
I don't expect/. to be up to date on everything but this article is old & has too much advertising to take seriously.
This applies to CEOs, CIOs, etc. An impressive resume, huge compensation package and celebrity status does not mean you will be a great executive. Sunbeam, Tyco, Enron, WorldCom, etc have all fallen victim to this. Many companies these days are falling into the rock star CEO trap, or CIO in this case, and that's doesn't guarantee success. Read the book Good to Great - Jim Collins analyzes this myth about celebrity CEOs, compensation and returns.
Google will cannibalize their own clients and move some over to CPA. Other CPA networks like CJ & Linkshare will be fine. CJ & LS have established brands with loyal customers. Merchants pay $2-10k plus monthly fees to be part of CJ & LS. All merchants have existing relationships with their publishers at both CJ & LS. Merchants are not going to up and leave due to the work needed to migrate to a new network. Plus LinkShare merchants are contractually obligated to not leave to competing networks...Google being the 500lb Gorilla it's only a matter of time till that legal dispute comes up.
What could be interesting is if Google decides to arbitrage their CPA offers against clicks. Fastclick does this. Google could probably do a better job.
>Um. So... don't use it, then? Is someone from Flock standing next to you and holding a gun to your head?
Yes, they are holding a gun to my head, which I why I created the criticism to begin with. You're smart. They are forcing me to read this slashvertisement and preach the good word of Flock or else. Hope you understand Flock rules!
What makes firefox work is that it's flexible. You chose to add a plugin or not. What does Flock provide? It forces you to accept its chosen plugins. That's bogus. I don't want any browser to chose my photo sharing community or be forced into using their web2.0 partners. Unlike firefox, the idea behind making this browser was funded from day 1 by a VC. You can bet Flock will sacrafice usability over turning a profit on their investment. I'm not a firefix expert but you can probably download firefox versions that come pre bundled with enough web2.0 extensions that it rivals Flock.
Read the flock blog entry about their business model. priceless. I wish they could film this company like they did in the movie startup.com...
I absolutely agree. Tomorrow, the Google MD could say smoking leads to cancer and the media, particularly/., is going to feed on that news like a revelation was made.
Business must make money and they will do what's best for their bottom line. The gaming industry is no different, particularly if your a gaming company working with Walmart.
>The sites that attract visitors through searches and make revenue by serving ads are established and have consumed the available market share.
This is wrong or at best, misleading. Online advertising continues to grow. New publishers succeed. New niches are discovered. Competition increases but online advertising continues to florish.
>Sorry guys, but the days of putting up hundreds of pages of content and waiting for Google to do your marketing are gone.
Welcome to yesterdays news. Doorway pages do not work. Pumping out content is over. Quality content however is still king.
>Don't re-write the titles, take the hint that what you're doing just isn't working. Either change your marketing strategy or re-evaluate the fiscal sanity of continuing to publish.
So what you're saying is if your site is not SEO friendly then don't bother improving it? Or are you saying change your keyword titles? I'm confused.
>The market is flooded - get creative in your advertising and MORE creative with your content and you may enjoy some success. Otherwise the sad fact is.. nobody is going to find you.
This I agree with. SEO as your only form of marketing has been dead for a while. Search engines are too smart. Quality, creative content is necessary. The Sacramento Bee updating their keyword titles is just a response to the industry. It's the right thing to do. Better synonym matching and semantic improvements could help this situation so maybe we should blame this on inferior search engines?
Smartbargains buys ads from Yahoo(Overture). Smartbargains expects customers to click on their ads and pay Yahoo for each click.
Yahoo distributes their ads through Ditto because Ditto appears to be a legitimate publisher and Yahoo wants to increase their traffic.
Ditto pays Nbcsearch. toolbar?
Nbcsearch pays 180Solutions. toolbar?
In this example I'm not sure if Nbcsearch has their own toolbar or 180solutions licenses their toolbar to Nbcsearch on a per click basis. Here's a PDF on the situation: http://www.benedelman.org/presentations/nyu-2006.p df
If I understand correctly, a user with this spyware installed will see an ad. The spyware will register seeing the ad as a click. Ad networks get paid and the advertiser, footing the bill for everyone else, gets nothing.
(I've paid for ads from zango/180solutions/metrics direct before with success however I hate their business. The traffic can convert so it's appealing. I also used to work at an ad network with 180solutions as one of their major publishers. Not only was 180solutions elusive when being probed for fraud, management ignored the issue because killing spyware hurts revenues...crazy industry)
I completely agree. Facebook is a lightweight technology that gained a lot of popularity in a short amount of time. What does that say about their users? They're fickle. Another 'facebook' will be around in two years and it's going to make the current facebook like like another friendster. Facebook is valueable, drives a _serious_ amount of traffic and has an ideal user base. You can put a high price on something like that but $2 billion? That reminds me too much of other over valued companies.
The internet bubble is back in force!
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Sure, its' alexa ranking is 62 but $2 billion for a site created two years ago? WOW! You would think a billion worth of investment into engineering and marketing could easily recreate facebook.
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Look up globalization. China's predicted to become one of the worlds most powerful countries in 10-20 years. It and much of the rest of the world is no longer limited to exporting blue collar goods.
Search engines use a similar variation of the idea that trusted sources lead to accurate results (PageRank & TrustRank). However anything can get manipulated. Search engine rankings are always abused. And look at DMOZ - editors that act as gatekeepers for submissions demand money. Corruption is rampant on DMOZ. But maybe wikipedia has too little commercial motivation to lead to high levels of corruption. The whole colbert thing with african elephants seemed like a good test of the system and wikipedia did a good job of combatting the vandalism. /rant off
Lake Express was definitely a victim of abuse by SS Badger. Pretty funny comments!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Ex
The ferry's operational season has been a bit of an embarrasement for the owner's of the company. When first launched the company announced that the ferry would operate each season until December 31. Because of lack of fall ridership and many press reports of sea sickness earlier in the year, the ferry's operations were ended in October during the first year (2004). In 2005 the company announced they had a plan to make it to the end of the year through better promotion. In 2005 the company was again forced to end their season early as the ship did not seem well equipt to make it in the Gales of November.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Ex
http://www.milwaukee-muskegon.com/ Site comparing Lake Express and other Lake Michigan Car Ferries
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Ex
not to mention that it crashed into the pier at muskegon without passengers aboard in 2005 april
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_Ex
In August 2006 several trips were cancelled because of waves and mechanical problems. The vessel was only running on three of its four engines and halted all trips for passenger comfort due to wave conditions. All ferry service was halted to fix mechanical issues on August 15 through August 18.
...Not one example is given in this article of how far the 'witch hunt' has gone. But a lot of opinions on why the witch hunt should stop are given. If executives have nothing to hide then why fight the investigation. And given the light of recent wrongdoings it makes sense that an investigation exists.
Slashdot sucks...seriously. Karma be damed but it needs to be said sometimes. Colbert's story is a day old. Colbert's idea didn't backfire. He spent a mere few minutes talking about Wikipedia and made his point. Left unchecked, Wikipedia can be rife with falsehoods. The elephants page is now correct but that's not to say the rest of the site is accurate. It's news that Colbert went so far as to do a segment on Wikipedia. Only a troll would say Colbert's story backfired, or a website trying to stir up attention.
>What is needed is a personal page-ranking system
That's exactly what we don't need, a system that can be easily manipulated. Your Zagat style idea exists, it's called Yahoo and it's not a scaleable way to order results. DMOZ is another example and that site is ridden with corruption. An algo has to assume people are untrustworthy and not invite manual manipulation. To that end, Google & Yahoo do manually edit bad results.
PageRank is one of hundreds of factors. Up to about 2002, Google's algo heavily relied on the PageRank. A lot has changed since then. It's no longer realistic to use websites to artificially inflate your pagerank & improve rankings. One way Google recognizes spam is through historically tracking links. An unnatural growth of inbound links will create penalties. So don't get hung up on pagerank. Too many other more important factors go into search results today to where it's inexcusable to blame positioning on pagerank or the idea that links can be used to easily manipulate results.
Pagerank has been dead for quite a while. Do a search for "pagerank is dead", you will find articles going back to 2004 about PR being an ineffective tool to use for SEO.
/. to be up to date on everything but this article is old & has too much advertising to take seriously.
Also, the sandbox is less of a mystery since Matt Cutts said they recognized behavior consistent with a sandbox. New sites are not given fair treatment and appear to be penalized.
I don't expect
This applies to CEOs, CIOs, etc. An impressive resume, huge compensation package and celebrity status does not mean you will be a great executive. Sunbeam, Tyco, Enron, WorldCom, etc have all fallen victim to this. Many companies these days are falling into the rock star CEO trap, or CIO in this case, and that's doesn't guarantee success. Read the book Good to Great - Jim Collins analyzes this myth about celebrity CEOs, compensation and returns.
Google will cannibalize their own clients and move some over to CPA. Other CPA networks like CJ & Linkshare will be fine. CJ & LS have established brands with loyal customers. Merchants pay $2-10k plus monthly fees to be part of CJ & LS. All merchants have existing relationships with their publishers at both CJ & LS. Merchants are not going to up and leave due to the work needed to migrate to a new network. Plus LinkShare merchants are contractually obligated to not leave to competing networks...Google being the 500lb Gorilla it's only a matter of time till that legal dispute comes up.
What could be interesting is if Google decides to arbitrage their CPA offers against clicks. Fastclick does this. Google could probably do a better job.
>Um. So... don't use it, then? Is someone from Flock standing next to you and holding a gun to your head?
Yes, they are holding a gun to my head, which I why I created the criticism to begin with. You're smart. They are forcing me to read this slashvertisement and preach the good word of Flock or else. Hope you understand Flock rules!
What makes firefox work is that it's flexible. You chose to add a plugin or not. What does Flock provide? It forces you to accept its chosen plugins. That's bogus. I don't want any browser to chose my photo sharing community or be forced into using their web2.0 partners. Unlike firefox, the idea behind making this browser was funded from day 1 by a VC. You can bet Flock will sacrafice usability over turning a profit on their investment. I'm not a firefix expert but you can probably download firefox versions that come pre bundled with enough web2.0 extensions that it rivals Flock.
Read the flock blog entry about their business model. priceless. I wish they could film this company like they did in the movie startup.com...
How could you expect to get away with this? Like a little bandwith here and a little there is not going to show up on someone's radar...
I would sooner believe David Blaine is a magician than the Webby Awards are the Oscars of the Internet.
By the number of flash winners it's clear that the webby's are still out of touch with reality.
I absolutely agree. Tomorrow, the Google MD could say smoking leads to cancer and the media, particularly /., is going to feed on that news like a revelation was made.
>Seriously though... Windows has all that built in. Just plug in more video cards, or multi-head cards.
/.! Thanks for the help though, I appreciate it.
Middle management has reduced me to asking simple questions on
In this article is a pic of Bill Gates desk with 3 monitors - anyone know what hardare he's running to do this?a tes_howiwork_fortune/
http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/30/news/newsmakers/g
Business must make money and they will do what's best for their bottom line. The gaming industry is no different, particularly if your a gaming company working with Walmart.
>The sites that attract visitors through searches and make revenue by serving ads are established and have consumed the available market share.
.. nobody is going to find you.
This is wrong or at best, misleading. Online advertising continues to grow. New publishers succeed. New niches are discovered. Competition increases but online advertising continues to florish.
>Sorry guys, but the days of putting up hundreds of pages of content and waiting for Google to do your marketing are gone.
Welcome to yesterdays news. Doorway pages do not work. Pumping out content is over. Quality content however is still king.
>Don't re-write the titles, take the hint that what you're doing just isn't working. Either change your marketing strategy or re-evaluate the fiscal sanity of continuing to publish.
So what you're saying is if your site is not SEO friendly then don't bother improving it? Or are you saying change your keyword titles? I'm confused.
>The market is flooded - get creative in your advertising and MORE creative with your content and you may enjoy some success. Otherwise the sad fact is
This I agree with. SEO as your only form of marketing has been dead for a while. Search engines are too smart. Quality, creative content is necessary. The Sacramento Bee updating their keyword titles is just a response to the industry. It's the right thing to do. Better synonym matching and semantic improvements could help this situation so maybe we should blame this on inferior search engines?
PPC advertisers (i.e. SmartBargains)
p df
->Yahoo Overture
-->Ditto.com
--->Nbcsearch
---->180solutions
Smartbargains buys ads from Yahoo(Overture). Smartbargains expects customers to click on their ads and pay Yahoo for each click.
Yahoo distributes their ads through Ditto because Ditto appears to be a legitimate publisher and Yahoo wants to increase their traffic.
Ditto pays Nbcsearch. toolbar?
Nbcsearch pays 180Solutions. toolbar?
In this example I'm not sure if Nbcsearch has their own toolbar or 180solutions licenses their toolbar to Nbcsearch on a per click basis. Here's a PDF on the situation: http://www.benedelman.org/presentations/nyu-2006.
If I understand correctly, a user with this spyware installed will see an ad. The spyware will register seeing the ad as a click. Ad networks get paid and the advertiser, footing the bill for everyone else, gets nothing.
(I've paid for ads from zango/180solutions/metrics direct before with success however I hate their business. The traffic can convert so it's appealing. I also used to work at an ad network with 180solutions as one of their major publishers. Not only was 180solutions elusive when being probed for fraud, management ignored the issue because killing spyware hurts revenues...crazy industry)
Two mpeg videos show RunBot (4.9M) walking at a steady speed and (15M) gradually learning to walk more rapidly.
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Get'em while they're hot,
For those unfamiliar with Ray Nagin's chocolate references:7 3133151531&q=chocolate+new+orleans&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-66780647
Comments on Ray Nagin's appology:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/nagin.city/
I completely agree. Facebook is a lightweight technology that gained a lot of popularity in a short amount of time. What does that say about their users? They're fickle. Another 'facebook' will be around in two years and it's going to make the current facebook like like another friendster. Facebook is valueable, drives a _serious_ amount of traffic and has an ideal user base. You can put a high price on something like that but $2 billion? That reminds me too much of other over valued companies.
Sure, its' alexa ranking is 62 but $2 billion for a site created two years ago? WOW! You would think a billion worth of investment into engineering and marketing could easily recreate facebook.
Anyone else agree the new interface is cluttered? The left side of your screen draws attention away from the organic and paid results.
Delete the cookie name PREF if you want to go back to the old interface.
...servers crashing sucks but at least I don't have to worry about millions of investment dollars going up in flames. Ouch.