I cant really state the validity of the points you raise, but I dont see how they are relevant in this instance (re:IBM). As has been stated many times, IBM is embracing Linux with the same enthusiasm with which the pointy-haired boss embraces unpaid interns.
Why? Because IBM wants to dump AIX. Why? Because AIX costs IBM money to support. Why? Because IBM is the only one doing AIX. Linux, on the otherhand, is being supported by tons of people doing it for little to no pay. Which means IBM can get rid of the dead bird around its neck, and jump onto the bandwagon which other people are pulling.
IBM isnt embracing Linux out of any kind of morality or evangelism. Its all about the money. Im not saying its a bad thing; quite the opposite. But lets view the situation for what it really is.
The reason they took so long is that there needed to be a sizable enough catalogue of games for them to pirate. Once you can get over a hundred GC games over Kazaa, it suddenly becomes a great time to *ahem* work on Linux for the GC (wink wink nudge nudge), and get those *cough* "homebrew" games loaded on there...
Just like most of these so-called "beginner" versions, it will most likely only be easy to somebody who has used Linux for years.
Four years ago, on the advice of someone here, I tried out Mandrake and some other one (can recall the distro), because it was supposed to be 'easy'. Ya, real easy- on one distro, the video wouldnt display on either of two computers, and on the other it the video and network cards to be installed manually. So I wasted a few more days trying to get SOMETHING besides a command prompt (which is where I was forced to work; I dont have a problem with a CLI in general, but its pretty hard when you dont know any commands, and you are supposed to config hardware as your first task).
Needless to say, Ive given Linux a very wide bearth since then, and when they say it is 'beginner friendly', I take that statement with a metric ton of salt.
a product soon to be released by an Israeli company that allows the wearer of special glasses to tell whether the person they are talking to is telling a lie.
I think they need to have these guys make glasses which detect if the person you are looking at has a bomb strapped to his waist.
Everytime that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face gettin' clearer The past is gone It went by like **dusk** to dawn Isn't that the way Everybody's got their dues in life to pay
I know what nobody knows Where it comes and where it goes I know it's everybody's sin You got to lose to know how to win
Half my life is in books' written pages Live and learn from fools and from sages You know it's true All the things you do, come back to you
Sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter sing for the tear Sing with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away (x2)
Dream On, Dream On, Dream On, Dream until your dream come true (x2) Dream On, Dream On Dream On, Dream On Dream On, Dream On, Dream On,oooooooooooooooooooohhhhh
Sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter sing for the tear Sing with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away (x2)
Windows doesn't "just work" for everyone either. That hasn't kept people from using it. If somebody is going to buy a computer with crappy hardware, they get what they deserve.
Troubleshooting 101- if it crashes for a few people, it is the hardware. If it crashes for EVERYBODY, its the OS.
How many UNIX or Linux installations were infected by all of the recent MS email worms/viruses?
How many r00t vulnerablilities did linux have in the past three months? How many Linux vendors got hacked because of undisclosed, in the wild exploits? How many of these effected Linux systems? I think Linux has enough to worry about with their own glass house, and should worry less about throwing rocks at other OS's.
Perhaps you should take some classes in biology - then it will make more sense to you, and you'll have a more rounded education.
Ah, the old analogy straw man. How about you take some computer classes? Because like all analogies, yours is flawed. A man-made construct is very different from a biological system. If biodiversity is so great, why do they sterilize surgery rooms? Answer- because they WANT a controlled monoculture.
Its hillarious how this jealousy of MS leads people to make up things which arent true. Take this oft-cited "Monoculture" argument, for instance.
The vast majority of MIS departments, given the choice, will try to standardize on products. Why? Because you cant have any real 'management' if there are too many things to take into account. So, you begin to eliminate things, and focus on building knowledge with your standard equipment. Then, when a problem comes up, you have just made your troubleshooting simpler by an order of magnitude lessened by each different system you have eliminated.
For example, you have Netware, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Linux, and Unix. You get hacked, and have no clue where it came from. So, this means you have to conduct very extensive testing on FIVE operating system bases. Lets say this testing can be done in about 20 hours (not likely, but just for example). 5 x 20 = 100 hours. THEN you still have to fix the problem.
HOWEVER, if you only have, say, Windows 2000 and Unix, you have just improved your problem response time by 150%, and you also dont have to hire people who are experts on five different OS's, so you can focus your people better.
The arguement against "Monoculture" is just a twist on "Security Through Obscurity", which anybody who actually works in security knows is not really security at all: it's palcebo security.
So next time you start uttering some regurgitated Slashdot statement like "Monoculture iZ teh dang3r0us!!!!1111", you should first consider taking an IT or MIS class.
Do those accounts you talk about have full administrator privileges or do they have a mechanism similar to sudo on UNIX?
No, they just have privileges limited to whatever they need access to. the IIS account gets read privileges to the directory storing the web pages, for example. Sometimes I have problems come up because somebody changes something and it doesnt work- this usually ends up being an issue where the IIS service account doesnt have permission to access files that the web designer specified: the IIS account doesnt even get Domain User privileges (because as a further restriction the default account is a local account and not a domain account).
The default account you create does have administrative privileges.
Ya, but the difference is that a user account with admin privileges can get locked out if it fails a specified number of bad password attempts, whereas the Administrator account cant. BTW, one of the basic steps I always take is to change the name of the administrator account and set up a 'fake' admin account. This isnt a Windows-specific tip, either- its basic security.
Why do you think it's to hard for them to implement a concept such as SUID to avoid this?
They already did. Hold down Shift, than Right-Click. There will be an option there called "Run As..."
Maybe Dan should check out the success stories at LinuxDevices.com or perhaps try a more traditional embedded OS that also happens to be Free."
So once again, the Linux community ignores constructive criticism by somebody in the real world, and just pedals excuses and anecdotes to make themselves feel better.
Oh well, I guess its easier making excuses than actually doing the work to improve things. If Linux ever went mainstream, people would just flood over to whatever other 'alternative' OS they could, anyway. They are just trying to show the world how interesting they *really* are by doing things different than everyone else. Its a sad little man who needs an operating system, web browser, or other program to define himself as a person.
You mean that people are actually still paying attention to what Lucas is doing with Star Wars? I stopped caring after seeing the first two pieces of shit he churned out.
So tell me what user the RPC service runs as? IIS? MSSQL? EVERY service on windows runs as system or administrator by default and AFAIK this cannot be changed.
Boy, you really are stupid. The IIS service runs as IUSR account, or an account you specify (you can changed it from the default). Likewise with the FTP service. SQL uses an SQLAGENT account.
cough... bullshitter... cough... Advice for anyone who might believe a know-nothing like rifter, try taking a serving of "Expert" with your expert opinions, because that guy doesnt know Jack, or Shit.
Also, the account ANY service runs under can be changed. Its as simple as going to the "service" control panel or MMC snap-in. Again proving that you dont have the faintest idea of what you are talking about. Also, NOT ONE SINGLE service runs as Administrator by default. If you WANT it to, you have to change that. Why? Because MS doesnt set services to run as user accounts, and Administrator is a user account.
Also, by default the only user you have is administrator
No, because it asks you at install to create a new user account. It must really suck not knowing anything, but having to act like you do. I pity you.
In fact with the XP it is not immediately obvious to a non-sysadmin what user is the administrator or that that is indeed what is happening.
OMG, you mean that people need to understand how to use a computer in order to use it? When did this happen? It explains you, of course. Anyway, I dont see Linux being all that user-friendly to people who dont know how to use Linux, nor OSX. So it seems that no matter what OS you are using, you need to know how it works.
Perhaps you should go back to MCSE school or learn to use a real operating system so you understand what the rest of us are on about.
Well, aparently I understand MS products far better than you do. All you are doing is spewing ignorant misinformation, confirming my statement that you get your computer knowledge on Slashdot rather than from a reliable source.
Keep going to school, kid. Maybe once you actually learn the facts you can start having conversations with us adults who actually work in IT. Because you are obviously only at the hobbyist level.
Nothing you said invalidates my point. It has been abundantly proven that monopolies are good for standardization, whereas having many players is good for innovation.
But things really dont mature until there are very few players operating in the market. Look at the train industry- before the massive consolidation, all the rail lines were different widths. Likewise with the phone company. Electric power was different, since Edison pretty much kept that his own monopoly; much like Gates, Edision was a shrewd businessman who wanted to keep control over his innovations.
MS still has some distance to go before they make computing a truly mature industry, but they are the only ones who are going to get us there. Once they start stagnating, the market will fragment again; I would surmise that at some future point, the OS is going to become a minor thing, and could probably go back to some kind of firmware (read-only does have many advantages, after all).
The time limitation was exactly what I was thinking of when I made my post; it want inferior quality at all. People wanted to record longer- that was the selling point of VHS. Of course, its pretty easy to see that whoever designed VHS was cherry-picking, but oh well, thats market forces at work. If Sony hadnt tried to squeeze the market so tight, Betamax would have won out. Cheap wins, but more importantly its providing what your customers want.
Didnt VHS go something like 12 hours at the lowest quality setting?
Someone should tell Microsoft that, since their latest products indeed run everything as admin by default. And the services cannot be made to do otherwise!
Thats surprising to me. Im a network architect with microsoft products, and nothing I work with runs admin by default.
Maybe you should work with something more tech-savy than XP Home, since that seems to be the extent of your IT experience.
If stardards bodies could truly come up with anything important or useful, monopolies would not have to come into being through necessity. This is essentially a law of business nature- small companies are good for innovations, large companies are good for standardization and mature growth.
This has been true of any enterprise, be it ship building, railroads, telephones, or computers.
Before you start whining about monopolies next time, just thing about the fact that the same telephone can work anywhere in the US, or that all electrical sockets in this country can likewise be used anywhere else in the country. Also consider the usefulness of anyone being able to go to a store and buy a piece of software for their computer.
Standards bodies take way too long, and often dont produce useful results. Look at how long it took to make CD standards, or DVD standards, or (re)writable DVD standards. It may be annoying to early adopters, but its often best to just let the market decide. It worked for VHS- how many people use Betamax?
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Why? Because IBM wants to dump AIX. Why? Because AIX costs IBM money to support. Why? Because IBM is the only one doing AIX. Linux, on the otherhand, is being supported by tons of people doing it for little to no pay. Which means IBM can get rid of the dead bird around its neck, and jump onto the bandwagon which other people are pulling.
IBM isnt embracing Linux out of any kind of morality or evangelism. Its all about the money. Im not saying its a bad thing; quite the opposite. But lets view the situation for what it really is.
No thanks. I'll probably wait another few weeks for the next point release.
I doubt it, but it can probably play Ogg. Performance in a cluster has not been reported.
If they can spot somebody beforehand, they can at least kill the bomber before (s)he can kill others; apprehension is pretty much not an option.
The reason they took so long is that there needed to be a sizable enough catalogue of games for them to pirate. Once you can get over a hundred GC games over Kazaa, it suddenly becomes a great time to *ahem* work on Linux for the GC (wink wink nudge nudge), and get those *cough* "homebrew" games loaded on there...
Four years ago, on the advice of someone here, I tried out Mandrake and some other one (can recall the distro), because it was supposed to be 'easy'. Ya, real easy- on one distro, the video wouldnt display on either of two computers, and on the other it the video and network cards to be installed manually. So I wasted a few more days trying to get SOMETHING besides a command prompt (which is where I was forced to work; I dont have a problem with a CLI in general, but its pretty hard when you dont know any commands, and you are supposed to config hardware as your first task).
Needless to say, Ive given Linux a very wide bearth since then, and when they say it is 'beginner friendly', I take that statement with a metric ton of salt.
I think they need to have these guys make glasses which detect if the person you are looking at has a bomb strapped to his waist.
Troubleshooting 101- if it crashes for a few people, it is the hardware. If it crashes for EVERYBODY, its the OS.
How many r00t vulnerablilities did linux have in the past three months? How many Linux vendors got hacked because of undisclosed, in the wild exploits? How many of these effected Linux systems? I think Linux has enough to worry about with their own glass house, and should worry less about throwing rocks at other OS's.
Perhaps you should take some classes in biology - then it will make more sense to you, and you'll have a more rounded education.
Ah, the old analogy straw man. How about you take some computer classes? Because like all analogies, yours is flawed. A man-made construct is very different from a biological system. If biodiversity is so great, why do they sterilize surgery rooms? Answer- because they WANT a controlled monoculture.
Ya, but now all those skaters are going to have to pay me royalties!
The vast majority of MIS departments, given the choice, will try to standardize on products. Why? Because you cant have any real 'management' if there are too many things to take into account. So, you begin to eliminate things, and focus on building knowledge with your standard equipment. Then, when a problem comes up, you have just made your troubleshooting simpler by an order of magnitude lessened by each different system you have eliminated.
For example, you have Netware, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Linux, and Unix. You get hacked, and have no clue where it came from. So, this means you have to conduct very extensive testing on FIVE operating system bases. Lets say this testing can be done in about 20 hours (not likely, but just for example). 5 x 20 = 100 hours. THEN you still have to fix the problem.
HOWEVER, if you only have, say, Windows 2000 and Unix, you have just improved your problem response time by 150%, and you also dont have to hire people who are experts on five different OS's, so you can focus your people better.
The arguement against "Monoculture" is just a twist on "Security Through Obscurity", which anybody who actually works in security knows is not really security at all: it's palcebo security.
So next time you start uttering some regurgitated Slashdot statement like "Monoculture iZ teh dang3r0us!!!!1111", you should first consider taking an IT or MIS class.
Just when people were starting to believe the mods werent total and complete idiots (ya, right), they go and screw it up.
BTW, Im gay too. Want to get together and do homo stuff?
How embarassing. The second time the bad acting almost killed me!
All your machinery are belong to me!
No, they just have privileges limited to whatever they need access to. the IIS account gets read privileges to the directory storing the web pages, for example. Sometimes I have problems come up because somebody changes something and it doesnt work- this usually ends up being an issue where the IIS service account doesnt have permission to access files that the web designer specified: the IIS account doesnt even get Domain User privileges (because as a further restriction the default account is a local account and not a domain account).
The default account you create does have administrative privileges.
Ya, but the difference is that a user account with admin privileges can get locked out if it fails a specified number of bad password attempts, whereas the Administrator account cant. BTW, one of the basic steps I always take is to change the name of the administrator account and set up a 'fake' admin account. This isnt a Windows-specific tip, either- its basic security.
Why do you think it's to hard for them to implement a concept such as SUID to avoid this?
They already did. Hold down Shift, than Right-Click. There will be an option there called "Run As..."
And there you go.
So once again, the Linux community ignores constructive criticism by somebody in the real world, and just pedals excuses and anecdotes to make themselves feel better.
Oh well, I guess its easier making excuses than actually doing the work to improve things. If Linux ever went mainstream, people would just flood over to whatever other 'alternative' OS they could, anyway. They are just trying to show the world how interesting they *really* are by doing things different than everyone else. Its a sad little man who needs an operating system, web browser, or other program to define himself as a person.
You mean that people are actually still paying attention to what Lucas is doing with Star Wars? I stopped caring after seeing the first two pieces of shit he churned out.
Boy, you really are stupid. The IIS service runs as IUSR account, or an account you specify (you can changed it from the default). Likewise with the FTP service. SQL uses an SQLAGENT account.
cough... bullshitter... cough... Advice for anyone who might believe a know-nothing like rifter, try taking a serving of "Expert" with your expert opinions, because that guy doesnt know Jack, or Shit.
Also, the account ANY service runs under can be changed. Its as simple as going to the "service" control panel or MMC snap-in. Again proving that you dont have the faintest idea of what you are talking about. Also, NOT ONE SINGLE service runs as Administrator by default. If you WANT it to, you have to change that. Why? Because MS doesnt set services to run as user accounts, and Administrator is a user account.
Also, by default the only user you have is administrator
No, because it asks you at install to create a new user account. It must really suck not knowing anything, but having to act like you do. I pity you.
In fact with the XP it is not immediately obvious to a non-sysadmin what user is the administrator or that that is indeed what is happening.
OMG, you mean that people need to understand how to use a computer in order to use it? When did this happen? It explains you, of course. Anyway, I dont see Linux being all that user-friendly to people who dont know how to use Linux, nor OSX. So it seems that no matter what OS you are using, you need to know how it works.
Perhaps you should go back to MCSE school or learn to use a real operating system so you understand what the rest of us are on about.
Well, aparently I understand MS products far better than you do. All you are doing is spewing ignorant misinformation, confirming my statement that you get your computer knowledge on Slashdot rather than from a reliable source.
Keep going to school, kid. Maybe once you actually learn the facts you can start having conversations with us adults who actually work in IT. Because you are obviously only at the hobbyist level.
But things really dont mature until there are very few players operating in the market. Look at the train industry- before the massive consolidation, all the rail lines were different widths. Likewise with the phone company. Electric power was different, since Edison pretty much kept that his own monopoly; much like Gates, Edision was a shrewd businessman who wanted to keep control over his innovations.
MS still has some distance to go before they make computing a truly mature industry, but they are the only ones who are going to get us there. Once they start stagnating, the market will fragment again; I would surmise that at some future point, the OS is going to become a minor thing, and could probably go back to some kind of firmware (read-only does have many advantages, after all).
Didnt VHS go something like 12 hours at the lowest quality setting?
Thats surprising to me. Im a network architect with microsoft products, and nothing I work with runs admin by default.
Maybe you should work with something more tech-savy than XP Home, since that seems to be the extent of your IT experience.
Your brain: now serving 0-2 day warez!!!
This has been true of any enterprise, be it ship building, railroads, telephones, or computers.
Before you start whining about monopolies next time, just thing about the fact that the same telephone can work anywhere in the US, or that all electrical sockets in this country can likewise be used anywhere else in the country. Also consider the usefulness of anyone being able to go to a store and buy a piece of software for their computer.
Standards bodies take way too long, and often dont produce useful results. Look at how long it took to make CD standards, or DVD standards, or (re)writable DVD standards. It may be annoying to early adopters, but its often best to just let the market decide. It worked for VHS- how many people use Betamax?