I think KDE is well on its way in getting at least as easy to use as Windows. Surf the web? Konqueror (or Mozilla). Check Mail? KMail (or Mozilla...:) ).
Share mp3s? Right-klick the folder, click Properties and share it (assuming you've got the permissions).
Not more complicated than Windows, I would say.
Also, KDE has some really nifty features for practically seamlessly mounting remote filesystems . Typing fish://user@someserver in the adressbar will make the home directory for the user in that server look like it's in your filesystem. Cut&Paste, copying, opening and everything works just like it's a local file.
And no, I'm not a KDE developer...:)
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Mods (mod?) on a Debian Jihad...
Seems like every post here that isn't properly Debian worshipping or (even worse!) is writing something positive about Gentoo is modded as 'Troll' or 'Redundant'.
What's wrong with some Debian people? Why so fundamentalist?
And if I want to compile from source, and love the ports system?
I can think of no distro that seems to piss people off the way Gentoo does. Why is that? Is it Debian people feeling threatened or something (see the 'Are we losing users to Gentoo' thread in one of the Debian NG:s for some arrogant opinions)? Why not let people use Gentoo if they like it?
Oh, we haven't had socialism in Sweden since the 80:s, if even then. Sure, our government calls itself social democrat, but it's more of a Tony Blair sort of social democrat, i.e. 'we're a bit embarrased to call ourselves left wing, since we'd really like to be out in the world playing with the big boys (Mr Bush, for example)'. If anything, we are edging closer to Plutocracy.
I don't know why it's come to be like this, but I think it's a happy result of the IT-boom era. My ISP started years ago to dig real fibre to common households, and since IT was the main fad those days, they got all the money they needed. But they made clear from the beginning that they weren't expecting to make profit at least until five years later. I think they are starting to about now, but I'm not sure. But I'm sure they will in the not too distant future.
And since that company has such a great offer, the other companies are forced to invest in better technologies, too.
The only catch for the fibre option is that it's not available for single houses, at least not normally.
And you have to connect all apartments in the house, but I think the initial investment cost isn't too high. After that, you're free to sign up for an account or not. You don't have to subscribe, you just have an ethernet socket in your apartment if you want to.
And now they have the VDSL option for those who can't get fibre, so things are looking good:)
Yep, me too: real Ethernet to the home box. And now
two companies here in Sweden are battling with VDSL offers: one with 10Mb/10Mb for about $35,and the other claims to offer up to 23Mb for about the same price!
And our former monopoly Telia have no plans to do anything at this point.... on the contrary, they had plans to cap the traffic, or charge by the Mb, which no other company does here:D (not that I know of, anyway)
Yeah, he's starting to be real fundamentalist about this.
I don't see Borland, or even Microsoft, complaining that programs don't have MS/ or Borland/ prefixed to the program name...
Okay, this was funny the first 10 times, but now it's starting to get old...
Even 'In Soviet Russia, Interactivity boosts YOU!' is funnier.
(I know, don't feed the trolls...)
That's a pretty interesting question: do the results vary according to the general 'prudeness' of the country? In my country (sinful Sweden...:-) ), the greatest consumption of porn, and also the highest rate of sex crimes, seems to be in the Bible Belt of Sweden, where the attitude to sex is a bit less relaxed than other parts of the country. (Gross generalization, of course, but nonetheless interesting)
Far more better? Are you serious? Or ironic? I can't decide which...
The only 'better' I can think of in MS products is that they are often easier to use for the novice, but I think that's more a matter of exposure and habit than actual difference in user-friendlyness. Mandrake Linux is at least as easy to use as any Windows version, it's just different.
I don't think it will destroy business, just change it. It will be harder to charge money for a program, but people will still need guys who know how to install and configure the systems, and manage security issues, for example.
Is scientific freedom and openly publishing results also communism, or do you feel that all companies should keep their research results for themselves?
I think there's no doubt that open source gives better quality code, and safer programs. You simply have more people controlling what you write. Peer review.
And if someone wants to charge for a program, he'd damn well make sure that that program gives more value for its money than any free alternative. Apparently, many people feel that MS programs don't do that. I don't think all those companies are migrating to Linux/BSD because of their idealism, it's simply better return of their investment.
Simple market logic...:-)
But mind you, Linus has said that he doesn't mind being called socialist... *eerie music*
John Ira-Petty, NASA:
'There is absolutely no reason to suspect a terrorist attack. I cannot imagine a more difficult target.'
This is a tragic accident, but probably has nothing to do with the Israeli crew member.
Is all this the beginning death throes of a dying monster market? Now the absurdity of paying for something that is totally immaterial, infinitely recreatable, and redistributable to anyone in the world (with net access) is catching up with the 'content industry'. David Bowie said that he is totally convinced that copyright will be non-existant in 20 years, and I think he's right. If we can share these things with the click of a few buttons, we will. I don't think it's a question of ethics, it's simple market laws or laws of nature, or whatever you might call it. I think the only things we will pay for in the future is services and physical objects. And musicians will have to do live performances to make the big money. I think they will make a good buck out of that too, if they are popular. And who knows, maybe that will deter a few of the business artists, who only seem to do it for the money, from pursuing careers in the arts, and maybe go sell shoes or be stock brokers or something.
Where are INTERCAL and Brainfuck in this survey?
'Data structures? We don't nedd no stinkin' data
structures!'
Ahhh, I see a bright future ahead...
Mod me up, Scotty.
Yeah, heaven forbid that we make it user-friendly, then I'd have to move to some other OS...;)
Ease of use and versatility don't have to be mutually exclusive, you know. What's wrong with point and print? I can think of few things less interesting than setting up printing. If I can get that fixed with a few clicks, then I would be very happy. Then I could move on to learning something interesting instead.
The Bush government is starting to look more and more like Big Brother. I don't think the terrorists of 9/11 could have hoped for a better result than this. USA is turning to everything they say it is. It's starting to be just the imperialist, unilateral evil empire they are talking about. And no US politician seems to dare to protest, for fear of being labeled un-American.
Since the US is the greatest power on Earth these days, what happens there spills over to the rest of the western world. Soon we will see these measures over here too, either by our own government or by pressure from the US. Unfortunately, we don't have a say since we're not US citizens. So all we can do is ask you who *are* to protest with all your might! This is a dangerous development. Your government is getting more and more dictatorial powers, with being able to hold people prisoners indefinitely without trial, being able to look into their private information without court orders, etc.
Please, for yourself and for the rest of the world:
PROTEST!
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Well, at least it was funny Flamebait... :D
I think KDE is well on its way in getting at least as easy to use as Windows. Surf the web? Konqueror (or Mozilla). Check Mail? KMail (or Mozilla... :) ).
Share mp3s? Right-klick the folder, click Properties and share it (assuming you've got the permissions). Not more complicated than Windows, I would say.
Also, KDE has some really nifty features for practically seamlessly mounting remote filesystems . Typing fish://user@someserver in the adressbar will make the home directory for the user in that server look like it's in your filesystem. Cut&Paste, copying, opening and everything works just like it's a local file.
And no, I'm not a KDE developer... :)
*Sigh* Mods (mod?) on a Debian Jihad... Seems like every post here that isn't properly Debian worshipping or (even worse!) is writing something positive about Gentoo is modded as 'Troll' or 'Redundant'. What's wrong with some Debian people? Why so fundamentalist?
And if I want to compile from source, and love the ports system? I can think of no distro that seems to piss people off the way Gentoo does. Why is that? Is it Debian people feeling threatened or something (see the 'Are we losing users to Gentoo' thread in one of the Debian NG:s for some arrogant opinions)? Why not let people use Gentoo if they like it?
Oh, we haven't had socialism in Sweden since the 80:s, if even then. Sure, our government calls itself social democrat, but it's more of a Tony Blair sort of social democrat, i.e. 'we're a bit embarrased to call ourselves left wing, since we'd really like to be out in the world playing with the big boys (Mr Bush, for example)'. If anything, we are edging closer to Plutocracy.
Looks like someone forgot his medication today...
I don't know why it's come to be like this, but I think it's a happy result of the IT-boom era. My ISP started years ago to dig real fibre to common households, and since IT was the main fad those days, they got all the money they needed. But they made clear from the beginning that they weren't expecting to make profit at least until five years later. I think they are starting to about now, but I'm not sure. But I'm sure they will in the not too distant future. And since that company has such a great offer, the other companies are forced to invest in better technologies, too. The only catch for the fibre option is that it's not available for single houses, at least not normally. And you have to connect all apartments in the house, but I think the initial investment cost isn't too high. After that, you're free to sign up for an account or not. You don't have to subscribe, you just have an ethernet socket in your apartment if you want to. And now they have the VDSL option for those who can't get fibre, so things are looking good :)
Yep, me too: real Ethernet to the home box. And now two companies here in Sweden are battling with VDSL offers: one with 10Mb/10Mb for about $35,and the other claims to offer up to 23Mb for about the same price! And our former monopoly Telia have no plans to do anything at this point.... on the contrary, they had plans to cap the traffic, or charge by the Mb, which no other company does here :D (not that I know of, anyway)
Yeah, he's starting to be real fundamentalist about this. I don't see Borland, or even Microsoft, complaining that programs don't have MS/ or Borland/ prefixed to the program name...
Do you guys in the US say 'Freedom kissing' , too? :)
How is that flamebait? Ahh, I see: a mod April's Fool joke...
that phrase has seldom been so relevant! My God, there are some evil people in the Gentoo team...
Okay, this was funny the first 10 times, but now it's starting to get old... Even 'In Soviet Russia, Interactivity boosts YOU!' is funnier. (I know, don't feed the trolls...)
That's a pretty interesting question: do the results vary according to the general 'prudeness' of the country? In my country (sinful Sweden... :-) ), the greatest consumption of porn, and also the highest rate of sex crimes, seems to be in the Bible Belt of Sweden, where the attitude to sex is a bit less relaxed than other parts of the country. (Gross generalization, of course, but nonetheless interesting)
Far more better? Are you serious? Or ironic? I can't decide which...
The only 'better' I can think of in MS products is that they are often easier to use for the novice, but I think that's more a matter of exposure and habit than actual difference in user-friendlyness. Mandrake Linux is at least as easy to use as any Windows version, it's just different.
I don't think it will destroy business, just change it. It will be harder to charge money for a program, but people will still need guys who know how to install and configure the systems, and manage security issues, for example.
Is scientific freedom and openly publishing results also communism, or do you feel that all companies should keep their research results for themselves?
:-)
I think there's no doubt that open source gives better quality code, and safer programs. You simply have more people controlling what you write. Peer review.
And if someone wants to charge for a program, he'd damn well make sure that that program gives more value for its money than any free alternative. Apparently, many people feel that MS programs don't do that. I don't think all those companies are migrating to Linux/BSD because of their idealism, it's simply better return of their investment.
Simple market logic...
But mind you, Linus has said that he doesn't mind being called socialist... *eerie music*
John Ira-Petty, NASA: 'There is absolutely no reason to suspect a terrorist attack. I cannot imagine a more difficult target.' This is a tragic accident, but probably has nothing to do with the Israeli crew member.
Is all this the beginning death throes of a dying monster market? Now the absurdity of paying for something that is totally immaterial, infinitely recreatable, and redistributable to anyone in the world (with net access) is catching up with the 'content industry'. David Bowie said that he is totally convinced that copyright will be non-existant in 20 years, and I think he's right. If we can share these things with the click of a few buttons, we will. I don't think it's a question of ethics, it's simple market laws or laws of nature, or whatever you might call it. I think the only things we will pay for in the future is services and physical objects. And musicians will have to do live performances to make the big money. I think they will make a good buck out of that too, if they are popular. And who knows, maybe that will deter a few of the business artists, who only seem to do it for the money, from pursuing careers in the arts, and maybe go sell shoes or be stock brokers or something.
Ka-ching. 2cents delivered.
Or BSODs... no, wait...
Where are INTERCAL and Brainfuck in this survey? 'Data structures? We don't nedd no stinkin' data structures!' Ahhh, I see a bright future ahead... Mod me up, Scotty.
LOL! Moderators: FUNNY!
Yeah, heaven forbid that we make it user-friendly, then I'd have to move to some other OS... ;)
Ease of use and versatility don't have to be mutually exclusive, you know. What's wrong with point and print? I can think of few things less interesting than setting up printing. If I can get that fixed with a few clicks, then I would be very happy. Then I could move on to learning something interesting instead.
Your government better watch out... There are a few governments here in Europe that are willing to take up the competition.
The Bush government is starting to look more and more like Big Brother. I don't think the terrorists of 9/11 could have hoped for a better result than this. USA is turning to everything they say it is. It's starting to be just the imperialist, unilateral evil empire they are talking about. And no US politician seems to dare to protest, for fear of being labeled un-American. Since the US is the greatest power on Earth these days, what happens there spills over to the rest of the western world. Soon we will see these measures over here too, either by our own government or by pressure from the US. Unfortunately, we don't have a say since we're not US citizens. So all we can do is ask you who *are* to protest with all your might! This is a dangerous development. Your government is getting more and more dictatorial powers, with being able to hold people prisoners indefinitely without trial, being able to look into their private information without court orders, etc. Please, for yourself and for the rest of the world: PROTEST!