Unlikely. Collecting unemployment usually requires leaving work through no fault of your own. Walking off just to prove a point or to be pissy won't cut it.
Peoples livelihoods depend on their employment. A walkout is not something that happens "to be pissy" People have been pushed quite far when it gets to that point. The basis of organized labor is not spoiled / lazy brats.
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and the cable in OK gets chopped by a back-hoe. Will they be able to restore service in a timely fashion? In the end this will all probably mean slightly better service and worse rates for consumers; but until then how well will C&W service its customers. Thats why I'm concerned that the SLAs will not be met.
I think that you missed my point. In the whole span of 2 years that I have had these T1s C7W has never met their SLA, not once. Every outage (and their were several) lasted days. This is why I am sure they could fire everyone without impacting customer service. It would be like being afraid the dead sea was going to dry up. C&W is the worst, goodbye to bad business. Our company signed a 5 year contract for those d*&n T1s and we were actually just getting ready to pay the 5000$ penalty to exit the contract. I guess we do not need to now.
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It says they will honor their SLAs until they decide upon further action, but how well will they uphold the SLA?
This should not impact their service level in any way. I have 2 C & W T1s. In the last 7 months I have experienced 9 outages 2 were planned and 7 (over four months) were attributed to a guy in Ok with a back hoe. Additionally when C&W put in those T1s it took them 8 months to get the service up and running. SLAs are just a means to trap their victims it does not impact what they need to do. They told us we could not sue over SLA because they did not bill us for bad service (but they would not release us).
I am glad that this worthless corporation has failed and glad that they are going. I hope that they are sold quickly though and their departure does not seriously impair the lives of their employees.
They've talked about firing foam samples at wing mockups at hundreds/thousands of miles an hour, 'cause (I think) the Shuttle was flying at that speed when it was hit. But wasn't the foam also flying at that speed? Shouldn't the actual velocity of the foam hitting the wing edge be fairly minimal?
You are probably somewhat right, the velocity of impact is something like the speed of the shuttles ascent - speed of the foams ascent. However to maintain a 500 MPH ascent requires a considerable amount of constant energy. The foam probably decelerated much quicker than you are thinking.
Since when do expensive advertising campaigns make a more customer-friendly company?
In this country that would be since the 1950s. Joe User is typically an overweight couch potato who doesn't think for him/herself and his views typically reflect his favorite TV show. Heck if the dems wanted to win the White House they should have invested in "West Wing". The only thing that gets more notice than shows is the advertising.
To back up this new push to promote a more customer-friendly Microsoft, Ballmer promised that the company would âoeincrease our advertising budget significantly for all our audiences.
Customers are failing to see the need for what we offer. Our technology rocks, we must work on the customers perception. We rock. Yea us!
Would you trust the patches more if the patch system told you how many people had installed the patch, how long it has been installed on a critical mass of systems, and how many users reported problems after installing the patch?
I have nothing constructive to add, just wondering . . . Are you a developer? Those are good questions. The only better question might be simply "what would make you trust it?" but I like the ones you asked.
or resolve to the same single-family house if you happen to be the only house for miles around (in which case you probably never use the +4) but I doubt these cases are abundant.
My parents live in a smaller town (population 700) their zip+4 resolves to their house.
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That would be the ultimate evil -- but then, again, wouldn't that be just like them? Yeah.;)
That sounds very likely. Especially if you look at this interesting exchange I noticed on a doze irc channel
PINKY> but Steve, if a linux player crushed linux we could use our new emulation powers and breed with linux or even Unix if we had a license.
BRAIN> yeah, bill that sounds cool.Then we would have the ability to run MS productivity applications on an MS OS without all the drawbacks of using an MS OS
PINKY> the world is mine... what drawbacks?
Re:If this doesn't end soon
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Sorry the above quote was attributed to the Sco information Minister.
Having been out of college for a while I did not know Matlab etc....were yet available on Linux, that is good news. As for using new languages it still stands that getting support from anyone other than the original programmer is exponentially more difficult than using a (yuck) well marketed language.
I am sure that you know what you are missing out on by not using OSS software personally. However, have you thought about what your lab is missing out on or would be if they moved. Bear in mind as you read this, I am a Linux user and this is not a flame.
In a research lab statistics are important. You probably use JMP, Matlab or some other large stats package. Their is not yet one in existence on OSS. If there were, there would not yet be a talent pool familiar with that software.
By coding in visual basic, they assure themselves that even if you leave they can find a lot of programmers to work on your project. Look at a directory in a major city for vb developers and then find someone (with a talent pool of more than 2 guys in a basement) advertising GCC development.
The fact is that significant development dollars will not be spent on OSS until an OSS OS (like Linux) has much deeper penetration into your work environments. Unfortunately, those uses are what would gain it that penetration.
The last I heard from the SCO Information Minister was that three independent (yet unnamed) groups have reviewed the code bases and found similarities.
1. The infidels claim that there is Linux, there is no Linux
2. There is no reason to be afraid of Linux, am I afraid...NO!
3. The infidels claim Linux is in every business. Do you see Linux, I do not see Linux.
4. We will destroy Linux. The linux that is in businesses. We have lured it into those business and will crush it with our Ip rights...
(whispering in background)
4a. Yes of course I meant with our copyrights and licensing management authority
Don't think of Linux as a business product. If we fall into that trap, they've won.
Software is written to address specific problems. It has costs in both money or effort associated with it (even open source developers) Linus could easily do billable work instead of Linux development and make like TWENTY dollars an hour (maybe more) but the bottom line is, something has to justify those costs. If we should not fall in the trap of viewing Linux as a business product what should we view it as? What is its purpose? Should maybe the statement be "Don't fall in the trap of thinking that your use for Linux is THE use for linux"
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He had to have a platform before he could create the internet.
I think this narrows things down a bit, shouldn't it be possible to make a list of code added by IBM in the last 18 months?
Maybe we could all put a snippet of this code on our website, and the one who gets sued by SCO has the right part:)
It would take weeks for that to get noticed. I for one would not want to risk the wrath of IBMs SCO divisions legal staff:-)
I have to admit I'm a little skeptical about it having "security problems." After all, Microsoft is very pro-security. I highly doubt it was their fault that there were security problems.
Good point. I have excellent locks on my front door. If I leave them unlocked and get robbed. Not only is the robber liable for what he stole, but I am going to sue him for damages relating to the fact that he made my unlocked door known. It is HIS fault not mine!!
Soemtimes I think people just get stuck in the "willing suspension of disbelief" and forget that its just a movie... im not looking for a religious revolution, I just want to see Neo kick some machine ass...
Literature has always been written to be inclusive to as many levels of audience as possible. An atheist can read the bible and see some "good stories" a zealot sees a way of life. That you appreciate the base level of the movie says only that this is where your enjoyment is. If I enjoy the symbolism my enjoyment is elsewhere. Kudos for having a film with such diverse appeal:-)
Viewers of the IFGA/PFF results were astounded and enthralled until someone realized that popcorn hadn't been figured into the PFF. The project was scrapped.
July 13 2003, the IFGA/PFF becomes self aware.....
Hmmm... I wonder why Slashdot posted a "technical" article by a fellow who believes his PC was designed to run mainframe applications? OK, all sarcasm aside why is this guy writing this? Who is his audience? Surely MS administrators have known not to let MS software be installed willy nilly since (at least) NT Service Pack 4.0 (look it up, it's a hoot).
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Unlikely. Collecting unemployment usually requires leaving work through no fault of your own. Walking off just to prove a point or to be pissy won't cut it.
Peoples livelihoods depend on their employment. A walkout is not something that happens "to be pissy" People have been pushed quite far when it gets to that point. The basis of organized labor is not spoiled / lazy brats.
and the cable in OK gets chopped by a back-hoe. Will they be able to restore service in a timely fashion? In the end this will all probably mean slightly better service and worse rates for consumers; but until then how well will C&W service its customers. Thats why I'm concerned that the SLAs will not be met.
I think that you missed my point. In the whole span of 2 years that I have had these T1s C7W has never met their SLA, not once. Every outage (and their were several) lasted days. This is why I am sure they could fire everyone without impacting customer service. It would be like being afraid the dead sea was going to dry up. C&W is the worst, goodbye to bad business. Our company signed a 5 year contract for those d*&n T1s and we were actually just getting ready to pay the 5000$ penalty to exit the contract. I guess we do not need to now.
It says they will honor their SLAs until they decide upon further action, but how well will they uphold the SLA?
This should not impact their service level in any way. I have 2 C & W T1s. In the last 7 months I have experienced 9 outages 2 were planned and 7 (over four months) were attributed to a guy in Ok with a back hoe. Additionally when C&W put in those T1s it took them 8 months to get the service up and running. SLAs are just a means to trap their victims it does not impact what they need to do. They told us we could not sue over SLA because they did not bill us for bad service (but they would not release us).
I am glad that this worthless corporation has failed and glad that they are going. I hope that they are sold quickly though and their departure does not seriously impair the lives of their employees.
They've talked about firing foam samples at wing mockups at hundreds/thousands of miles an hour, 'cause (I think) the Shuttle was flying at that speed when it was hit. But wasn't the foam also flying at that speed? Shouldn't the actual velocity of the foam hitting the wing edge be fairly minimal?
You are probably somewhat right, the velocity of impact is something like the speed of the shuttles ascent - speed of the foams ascent. However to maintain a 500 MPH ascent requires a considerable amount of constant energy. The foam probably decelerated much quicker than you are thinking.
Like their patches?
Millions of lines of code WILL NOT be error free. Patches are expected and wanted by reasonably intelligent customers.
Since when do expensive advertising campaigns make a more customer-friendly company?
In this country that would be since the 1950s. Joe User is typically an overweight couch potato who doesn't think for him/herself and his views typically reflect his favorite TV show. Heck if the dems wanted to win the White House they should have invested in "West Wing". The only thing that gets more notice than shows is the advertising.
To back up this new push to promote a more customer-friendly Microsoft, Ballmer promised that the company would âoeincrease our advertising budget significantly for all our audiences.
Customers are failing to see the need for what we offer. Our technology rocks, we must work on the customers perception. We rock. Yea us!
Would you trust the patches more if the patch system told you how many people had installed the patch, how long it has been installed on a critical mass of systems, and how many users reported problems after installing the patch?
I have nothing constructive to add, just wondering . . . Are you a developer? Those are good questions. The only better question might be simply "what would make you trust it?" but I like the ones you asked.
or resolve to the same single-family house if you happen to be the only house for miles around (in which case you probably never use the +4) but I doubt these cases are abundant.
My parents live in a smaller town (population 700) their zip+4 resolves to their house.
That would be the ultimate evil -- but then, again, wouldn't that be just like them? Yeah. ;)
... what drawbacks?
That sounds very likely. Especially if you look at this interesting exchange I noticed on a doze irc channel PINKY> but Steve, if a linux player crushed linux we could use our new emulation powers and breed with linux or even Unix if we had a license. BRAIN> yeah, bill that sounds cool.Then we would have the ability to run MS productivity applications on an MS OS without all the drawbacks of using an MS OS PINKY> the world is mine
Sorry the above quote was attributed to the Sco information Minister.
$0 is going to have their own section in Slashdot.
Good! When IBM and Novell and the rest of the affected people are done with us, at least we will have a single intangible asset.
Note to editors: feel free to use our logo to denote your section. It is not trademarked and we would not sue you for trademark dilution. . . trust us
Having been out of college for a while I did not know Matlab etc....were yet available on Linux, that is good news. As for using new languages it still stands that getting support from anyone other than the original programmer is exponentially more difficult than using a (yuck) well marketed language.
I am sure that you know what you are missing out on by not using OSS software personally. However, have you thought about what your lab is missing out on or would be if they moved. Bear in mind as you read this, I am a Linux user and this is not a flame.
In a research lab statistics are important. You probably use JMP, Matlab or some other large stats package. Their is not yet one in existence on OSS. If there were, there would not yet be a talent pool familiar with that software.
By coding in visual basic, they assure themselves that even if you leave they can find a lot of programmers to work on your project. Look at a directory in a major city for vb developers and then find someone (with a talent pool of more than 2 guys in a basement) advertising GCC development.
The fact is that significant development dollars will not be spent on OSS until an OSS OS (like Linux) has much deeper penetration into your work environments. Unfortunately, those uses are what would gain it that penetration.
The last I heard from the SCO Information Minister was that three independent (yet unnamed) groups have reviewed the code bases and found similarities.
1. The infidels claim that there is Linux, there is no Linux
2. There is no reason to be afraid of Linux, am I afraid...NO!
3. The infidels claim Linux is in every business. Do you see Linux, I do not see Linux.
4. We will destroy Linux. The linux that is in businesses. We have lured it into those business and will crush it with our Ip rights...
(whispering in background)
4a. Yes of course I meant with our copyrights and licensing management authority
Why's that? So that it can get sent to court three or four times?
/. editor sees the offending code all anyone else will see is 404 error.
SCO will approve this nomination. Once a
Don't think of Linux as a business product. If we fall into that trap, they've won.
Software is written to address specific problems. It has costs in both money or effort associated with it (even open source developers) Linus could easily do billable work instead of Linux development and make like TWENTY dollars an hour (maybe more) but the bottom line is, something has to justify those costs. If we should not fall in the trap of viewing Linux as a business product what should we view it as? What is its purpose? Should maybe the statement be "Don't fall in the trap of thinking that your use for Linux is THE use for linux"
He had to have a platform before he could create the internet.
I think this narrows things down a bit, shouldn't it be possible to make a list of code added by IBM in the last 18 months? Maybe we could all put a snippet of this code on our website, and the one who gets sued by SCO has the right part :)
:-)
It would take weeks for that to get noticed. I for one would not want to risk the wrath of IBMs SCO divisions legal staff
Someone actually used AIX?!
Doesn't everyone?!?
I have a 33 MhZ RS6000 (with 16MB of memory) running DNS on my home network. Ok, I know it's not mainstream but it's just so cool!
I have to admit I'm a little skeptical about it having "security problems." After all, Microsoft is very pro-security. I highly doubt it was their fault that there were security problems.
Good point. I have excellent locks on my front door. If I leave them unlocked and get robbed. Not only is the robber liable for what he stole, but I am going to sue him for damages relating to the fact that he made my unlocked door known. It is HIS fault not mine!!
They then spend the next few years figuring out means to really grab hold of the niche, and then they dominate it.
That was the strategy of fledgling pre-NT Microsoft. The new strategy is, get a foot in the door and then buy the place.
Soemtimes I think people just get stuck in the "willing suspension of disbelief" and forget that its just a movie... im not looking for a religious revolution, I just want to see Neo kick some machine ass...
:-)
Literature has always been written to be inclusive to as many levels of audience as possible. An atheist can read the bible and see some "good stories" a zealot sees a way of life. That you appreciate the base level of the movie says only that this is where your enjoyment is. If I enjoy the symbolism my enjoyment is elsewhere. Kudos for having a film with such diverse appeal
Viewers of the IFGA/PFF results were astounded and enthralled until someone realized that popcorn hadn't been figured into the PFF. The project was scrapped.
July 13 2003, the IFGA/PFF becomes self aware.....
Hmmm... I wonder why Slashdot posted a "technical" article by a fellow who believes his PC was designed to run mainframe applications? OK, all sarcasm aside why is this guy writing this? Who is his audience? Surely MS administrators have known not to let MS software be installed willy nilly since (at least) NT Service Pack 4.0 (look it up, it's a hoot).