Anyone who has gone through the grief of setting up their computers/networks to run reliably and consistantly is not about to waste time helping someone not inclined to learn, to maintain a computer.
Who wants to get roped into answering the phone at all hours from someone who cant figure out how to avoid a virus or worm? I wont answer that call from anyone. Get WebTV and shut the fuck up.
You cant pay me enough to swing by in the middle of my day to remove porn-popups, if you are gonna keep using IE, and not reign in your 13yr boy with a perpetual woody.
I dont care if you have a pair of 44Ds in your blouse, I aint fixing your machine unless you are prepared to sit on my lap while I load my "Spybot".
How many businesses really want their web sites to market to people still using 56K? I mean, come on. Even on the road, how many people who need the Internet are going to stay somewhere that does not offer broadband service?
Forgive me for saying so, but in this day and age, if you dont have or use a broadband connection, just how many people are going to take you seriously on the Internet and want to market their services to you?
Please dont give me a million Grandma and Grampa stories about how they picked up some item on Ebay over their USRobotics piece of shit and were thrilled to do so, either. Broadband is super-cheap these days, and if you dont use it, why the hell should some one make their web site nice, sparce and ugly for you?
On the other hand, any web page larger than 60-80k is stupid on its face. No decent web designer would create pages larger than that, and if IE ever supports PNGs right, this argument is moot.
Who cares if you only got that degree after 2 years in Community College? You are going to change the world.
That's right, because you care.
You dont need experience, Industry knowledge, mathematics abilities, because YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA.
So you packed up your Yugo and headed west with a song in your heart and a joint in your pocket, ready to set the world on fire, because everyone knows that Pet Food is best bought over the Internet. Duh!
You are a champion; a better kind of human being because you carry a Powerbook. You are a Computing Genius now that you have mastered that obscure, incredible difficult HTML uh, thing.
The world is your oyster from your cubicle bigger than most and your Aeron C chair for your B sized ass. Who knew when you left those cold eastern winters that your skill and imagination would earn you free-fuckin Starbucks in your office, uh-sorry; your cubicle? Way to go, killer.
Here's a toast to you, now that you have left that huge apartment and moved into that Palo Alto broom closet, but you dont care because YOU'VE GOT a CABLE MODEM!!
Teach us to be like you, we need your kind out here in the Valley, where would we get our half-price routers on Craigslist if not for your sorry ass?
Thank you!!
The woman has not yet sucked every last cent of value out of that company. Surely there is more damage to do?
HP will now begin the big breakup dance, splitting off the Printer division into it's own business. Test equipment and computers will now have to stand (fall flat) on their own.
Every single problem HP has now was predicted before they let that saleswoman who has killed every company she touched, take over and run them into the ground.
Only someone with too much estrogen could figure that you could combine too large disfunctional companies into one successful organization. Every board member who stood behind Fiorina was voting with their dicks, not their brain, because they bought her bullshit.
Where will she go next? Maybe SUN can hire the bitch? Only she could fuck them up more.
True innovators dont often seek recognition beyond the acknowledgement of their ownership of the original ideal. I agree with you, but I wish our society would in addition to recognizing the innovators, spend a little more time understanding how innovation is accomplished, and the acknoledgement that nothing fucks up innovation like government intervention.
I know for a fact, that there are people at NASA who were rooting for Rutan to fail in his quest for the X-Prize, because his success would make it harder for them to gain additional government funding.
I'm not trying to defend Microsoft, but how often do you ever see the originators of ideas become the primary winner (profit, corporate health) from those ideas?
99.9% of homes in America have a Television, but while invented in America, you cant buy an American made television anymore. You cant buy a German-made rocket, for that matter.
Innovation is important, but it is more important to turn those ideas into sustainable businesses. Google appears to understand this, which is why its founders are on a hiring spree in India, instead of employing more expensive American labor. They are in it for the long haul.
Fucking fire SOMEBODY. Dammit. It is hard enough promoting this shit without all these damn issues. Hire Miguel, for Christ's sake. Spend what you paid Anders if you have to you bastards, but quick fucking up your partners lives with this bullshit!
Is some fool going to argue that Metadata attributes are not important? I am so sick of the silly bigotry of this board, that I hardly moderate anymore. Moderation is a joke, when idiots are allowed to moderate based on personal biases instead of the value of the goddamn post.
This is the classic case of why unmanaged exceptions are dead awful. They compromise the stability of your system once it becomes bigger. Why? Because you never know what is going to fly into your code from the deeper aspects of the subsystem.
I cant argue with that.
I dont think that even small systems can get away without managing exceptions, but what generally happens with smaller systems is that proper architecture goes out the window in favor of getting it done NOW. That has always been the problem with Microsoft, and where Java has the edge. Java programmers are better students of OOP architectures and the use of things like UML, where a lot of.NET folks are former VB code monkeys without exposure to big systems design methodologies.
I think Anders was saying basically that some people tend to go overboard throwing exceptions because they can, but not using the handler as a tool to help them fix their code so that the exception is rarely thrown in the first place?
Are you referring to the Checked Exceptions controversy he started in that interview? I am back and forth on that, because I believe that simplicity should always come first.
In Java you will not
see any performance improvement; the reason is well explained by Anders
Hejlsberg (lead C# architect) in http://www.artima.com/intv/generics2.html: "For
example, with Java generics, you don't actually get any of the
execution efficiency that I talked about, because when you compile a
generic class in Java, the compiler takes away the type parameter and
substitutes Object everywhere. So the compiled image for List<T>
is like a List where you use the type Object everywhere. Of course, if
you now try to make a List<int>, you get boxing of all the ints.
So there's a bunch of overhead there. Furthermore, to keep the VM
happy, the compiler actually has to insert all of the type casts you
didn't write. If it's a List of Object and you're trying to treat those
Objects as Customers, at some point the Objects must be cast to
Customers to keep the verifier happy. And really all they're doing in
their implementation is automatically inserting those type casts for
you. So you get the syntactic sugar, or some of it at least, but you
don't get any of the execution efficiency. So that's issue number one I
have with Java's solution."
You can argue with Anders, but then, you would be wrong.
Who said anything about using p2p illegally? Did it occur to your dumb ass that I might have been suggesting that the record industry use the technology to LEGALLY distribute their wares, instead of providing such a poor value which encourages folks toward illegal downloading? No, you didnt, fool. Did I strike too close to home? What might be suggestive to your dumb ass, might not be so suggestive to others. You can remove your foot from your mouth now, dumbshit.
Dont you dare EXPOSE me to anything that I could actually USE! I love paying $20 dollars for a CD with one good song, and you have NO RIGHT to stop me!
No, dont give up, just BEAT them. Really BEAT them. Invent a better way, not just a different way. Risk the company, bet the farm, go all out. But stop thinking that a company is going to out-Microsoft Microsoft. It aint gonna happen.
How many years have we talked about a Linux desktop coming that would be better than Windows? Write anywhere, debug everywhere? I use Firefox because it is the BEST browser. But Mozilla needs to market the fuck out of it or non-geeks will never know.
Marketing wins, period.
All I am saying, is that for every great technology, they need to have equally or even more great marketing, or they will fail. This is a fact that companies continue to ignore.
Laszlo has it working now, and the apps run in 98% of the computers and devices hooked to the internet today. All IBM needs to do is add the final piece of the software stack together with DB/2, WebSphere, Linux and the client (Laszlo) then both.Net and Longhorn become totally irrelevant.
Who the fuck ever heard of Laszlo? This is getting so redundant to no longer be the slightest be funny or interesting. It aint about the technology and it never was. It was always about the Marketing muscle to let folks know what you've got.
More people every day will visit msdn.microsoft.com than will ever hear of Laszlo, no matter what technology they bring to market. They cant win, except to gain a few clients that will keep them afloat until somebody big buys them, takes their tech and dumps them on the scrap heap of innovators who failed to understand that in every business, marketing wins.
There has never been another company in the history of the world to spend so much money, trying to make only a little money. How many iterations of this battle do we have to witness before IBM concedes that they will never, ever beat Microsoft at this game?
Web-linked software? Linked to what? Probably XAML and Avalon, thats what. IBM's got 50 customers like Munich? They would need 50,000 like that to make Redmond sweat. I know that Microsoft is hated here, but SOMEBODY is spending that money on them. (best quarter ever)
Sooner or later, some smart company is going to understand how Microsoft makes all that damn money, and stop telling themselves that they can win by just changing the rules.
The rules are:
Own the desktop
Provide the best-of-breed apps for that desktop
Own the developers who support that desktop
Own the contracts with those who supply those desktops
Leverage the desktop in every other market
Club competitors over the head with your 50+billion until they run to new markets and stop competing in yours.
A better question to ask is, what the fuck is an operating system doing with those resources?
Sending all your porn and torrents to China. What the fuck did you think it was doing? It will sense your presense and cut the ports when you touch your mouse. It will sense the declining heat on your Aeron when you go away, and resume sending all your good shit to the far east.
Anything questionable with go directly to John Ashcroft.
The man repeats the word "Avalon" in his sleep. His old faithful is gettin fat and doesnt put out as much, and Bill Gates introduced him to a hot young thing that made him want to abandon his family and take up with the slut across town with all the new moves.
He has stated that he expects every DirecTV reciever to eventually be a DVR. If he goes ahead with that, then with ownership of TiVo's superior interface, and direct-digital recording, he could beat up on Dish Network.
He could also dictate the direction of TiVo, optimizing them towards DirecTV support even more so than currently. HDTV makes no sense outside of Satellite, so I would expect Murdoct to have the first availible direct-digital integrated HDTV DVR.
Then suppose they add a digital out connector to a computer for archiving, which would work with ATI Video boards? Cable companies would become the low-end prole option overnight.
DirecTiVo's have access to the full digital stream. They record digital info direct to disk without conversion. Since satellite owners are what Tivo was intended, and cable DVR service sucks balls for most who have it, I suspect that TiVo will eventually be bought out by DirecTV. New disks are coming this year that will allow three separate data stream recordings at once.
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Who wants to get roped into answering the phone at all hours from someone who cant figure out how to avoid a virus or worm? I wont answer that call from anyone. Get WebTV and shut the fuck up.
You cant pay me enough to swing by in the middle of my day to remove porn-popups, if you are gonna keep using IE, and not reign in your 13yr boy with a perpetual woody.
I dont care if you have a pair of 44Ds in your blouse, I aint fixing your machine unless you are prepared to sit on my lap while I load my "Spybot".
Forgive me for saying so, but in this day and age, if you dont have or use a broadband connection, just how many people are going to take you seriously on the Internet and want to market their services to you?
Please dont give me a million Grandma and Grampa stories about how they picked up some item on Ebay over their USRobotics piece of shit and were thrilled to do so, either. Broadband is super-cheap these days, and if you dont use it, why the hell should some one make their web site nice, sparce and ugly for you?
On the other hand, any web page larger than 60-80k is stupid on its face. No decent web designer would create pages larger than that, and if IE ever supports PNGs right, this argument is moot.
Who cares if you only got that degree after 2 years in Community College? You are going to change the world.
That's right, because you care.
You dont need experience, Industry knowledge, mathematics abilities, because YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA.
So you packed up your Yugo and headed west with a song in your heart and a joint in your pocket, ready to set the world on fire, because everyone knows that Pet Food is best bought over the Internet. Duh!
You are a champion; a better kind of human being because you carry a Powerbook. You are a Computing Genius now that you have mastered that obscure, incredible difficult HTML uh, thing.
The world is your oyster from your cubicle bigger than most and your Aeron C chair for your B sized ass. Who knew when you left those cold eastern winters that your skill and imagination would earn you free-fuckin Starbucks in your office, uh-sorry; your cubicle? Way to go, killer.
Here's a toast to you, now that you have left that huge apartment and moved into that Palo Alto broom closet, but you dont care because YOU'VE GOT a CABLE MODEM!!
Teach us to be like you, we need your kind out here in the Valley, where would we get our half-price routers on Craigslist if not for your sorry ass?
Thank you!!
Then, when the US is saved from disaster, you and your buddies can become professional gamers. That is, if you havent sold your computer for food.....
HP will now begin the big breakup dance, splitting off the Printer division into it's own business. Test equipment and computers will now have to stand (fall flat) on their own.
Every single problem HP has now was predicted before they let that saleswoman who has killed every company she touched, take over and run them into the ground.
Only someone with too much estrogen could figure that you could combine too large disfunctional companies into one successful organization. Every board member who stood behind Fiorina was voting with their dicks, not their brain, because they bought her bullshit.
Where will she go next? Maybe SUN can hire the bitch? Only she could fuck them up more.
Who needs ya? You were good in your day, but it aint that day anymore.
I know for a fact, that there are people at NASA who were rooting for Rutan to fail in his quest for the X-Prize, because his success would make it harder for them to gain additional government funding.
99.9% of homes in America have a Television, but while invented in America, you cant buy an American made television anymore. You cant buy a German-made rocket, for that matter.
Innovation is important, but it is more important to turn those ideas into sustainable businesses. Google appears to understand this, which is why its founders are on a hiring spree in India, instead of employing more expensive American labor. They are in it for the long haul.
Fucking fix it!
Is some fool going to argue that Metadata attributes are not important? I am so sick of the silly bigotry of this board, that I hardly moderate anymore. Moderation is a joke, when idiots are allowed to moderate based on personal biases instead of the value of the goddamn post.
I cant argue with that.
I dont think that even small systems can get away without managing exceptions, but what generally happens with smaller systems is that proper architecture goes out the window in favor of getting it done NOW. That has always been the problem with Microsoft, and where Java has the edge. Java programmers are better students of OOP architectures and the use of things like UML, where a lot of .NET folks are former VB code monkeys without exposure to big systems design methodologies.
I think Anders was saying basically that some people tend to go overboard throwing exceptions because they can, but not using the handler as a tool to help them fix their code so that the exception is rarely thrown in the first place?
Are you referring to the Checked Exceptions controversy he started in that interview? I am back and forth on that, because I believe that simplicity should always come first.
In Java you will not see any performance improvement; the reason is well explained by Anders Hejlsberg (lead C# architect) in http://www.artima.com/intv/generics2.html :
"For example, with Java generics, you don't actually get any of the execution efficiency that I talked about, because when you compile a generic class in Java, the compiler takes away the type parameter and substitutes Object everywhere. So the compiled image for List<T> is like a List where you use the type Object everywhere. Of course, if you now try to make a List<int>, you get boxing of all the ints. So there's a bunch of overhead there. Furthermore, to keep the VM happy, the compiler actually has to insert all of the type casts you didn't write. If it's a List of Object and you're trying to treat those Objects as Customers, at some point the Objects must be cast to Customers to keep the verifier happy. And really all they're doing in their implementation is automatically inserting those type casts for you. So you get the syntactic sugar, or some of it at least, but you don't get any of the execution efficiency. So that's issue number one I have with Java's solution."
You can argue with Anders, but then, you would be wrong.
Who said anything about using p2p illegally? Did it occur to your dumb ass that I might have been suggesting that the record industry use the technology to LEGALLY distribute their wares, instead of providing such a poor value which encourages folks toward illegal downloading? No, you didnt, fool. Did I strike too close to home? What might be suggestive to your dumb ass, might not be so suggestive to others. You can remove your foot from your mouth now, dumbshit.
Dont you dare EXPOSE me to anything that I could actually USE! I love paying $20 dollars for a CD with one good song, and you have NO RIGHT to stop me!
Join our century, asshole.
This guy should have been telling folks at Sun back in the early days that almost everyone might just want to print something? I'm just asking.
That is what sustains this industry. All hardware is free if you wait long enough.
How many years have we talked about a Linux desktop coming that would be better than Windows? Write anywhere, debug everywhere? I use Firefox because it is the BEST browser. But Mozilla needs to market the fuck out of it or non-geeks will never know.
Marketing wins, period.
All I am saying, is that for every great technology, they need to have equally or even more great marketing, or they will fail. This is a fact that companies continue to ignore.
Who the fuck ever heard of Laszlo? This is getting so redundant to no longer be the slightest be funny or interesting. It aint about the technology and it never was. It was always about the Marketing muscle to let folks know what you've got.
More people every day will visit msdn.microsoft.com than will ever hear of Laszlo, no matter what technology they bring to market. They cant win, except to gain a few clients that will keep them afloat until somebody big buys them, takes their tech and dumps them on the scrap heap of innovators who failed to understand that in every business, marketing wins.
Web-linked software? Linked to what? Probably XAML and Avalon, thats what. IBM's got 50 customers like Munich? They would need 50,000 like that to make Redmond sweat. I know that Microsoft is hated here, but SOMEBODY is spending that money on them. (best quarter ever)
Sooner or later, some smart company is going to understand how Microsoft makes all that damn money, and stop telling themselves that they can win by just changing the rules.
The rules are:
Own the desktop
Provide the best-of-breed apps for that desktop
Own the developers who support that desktop
Own the contracts with those who supply those desktops
Leverage the desktop in every other market
Club competitors over the head with your 50+billion until they run to new markets and stop competing in yours.
Die Rich.
Sending all your porn and torrents to China. What the fuck did you think it was doing? It will sense your presense and cut the ports when you touch your mouse. It will sense the declining heat on your Aeron when you go away, and resume sending all your good shit to the far east.
Anything questionable with go directly to John Ashcroft.
The man repeats the word "Avalon" in his sleep. His old faithful is gettin fat and doesnt put out as much, and Bill Gates introduced him to a hot young thing that made him want to abandon his family and take up with the slut across town with all the new moves.
He could also dictate the direction of TiVo, optimizing them towards DirecTV support even more so than currently. HDTV makes no sense outside of Satellite, so I would expect Murdoct to have the first availible direct-digital integrated HDTV DVR.
Then suppose they add a digital out connector to a computer for archiving, which would work with ATI Video boards? Cable companies would become the low-end prole option overnight.
DirecTiVo's have access to the full digital stream. They record digital info direct to disk without conversion. Since satellite owners are what Tivo was intended, and cable DVR service sucks balls for most who have it, I suspect that TiVo will eventually be bought out by DirecTV. New disks are coming this year that will allow three separate data stream recordings at once.