Even though I loved GTA3, it spent a LOT of time playing it, and don't intend to get Vice City if it's the same routine in a new city.
I never really could get into GTA3, so I don't know much about it, however some of the improvements I was made aware of had me thinking "How could anybody PLAY this game without that!?" Such as the motorcycles, those are -fun- and the Apache (or whatever, the attack copter) add a lot of fun when you just want to play around and do whatever...
One thing, is it just me? or does anyone else just *WISH* they would add back what they had in GTA, the original, where if you got killed or arrested it told you how many laws you broke, misdemeanors, felonies, murders, cops killed, etc...? I thought that added a lot to the game when you wanted to just screw around and see how long you could last with the law after you.. it'd be even more fun now with the SWAT, Feds and the armed forces chasing after you... I think they REALLY need to re-add that.
Umm.... There has never been a GTA4. GTA Vice City did not have a number in the title such as GTA3.
Heh, where have we seen this before? (SFII?). I think the best route to go here is to just stop numbering them and branch off into new names.. don't make a GTA4, or if you do, make it a completely different game. But if they just branch off into GTA:(City Name) instead, then they won't appear to be following the trend of SFII, SFII:Champion Edition, SFII Turbo CE, etc, etc, etc... I dunno, just my thoughts on the matter..
-matt
PS: That "San Andreas is ok, but it does have its faults" comment was one of the best damned puns i've read on here in a long while, heh.
It's quite simply the most masochistic installation I've ever seen. The live cd will dump you to a prompt and then it's up to you to partition your drive, mount it's filesystem, untar all the files manually, set up fstab by hand, compile and install your kernel, manually set up your bootloader, set up your networking, choose which compilation options you want to use, and then start compiling things. I think installing gentoo is a great learning experience, which leaves you with a good, stable OS.
See, I thought it was totally intimidating when a friend of mine suggested I install gentoo. Now I couldn't be happier. I'd say I was about a 5 on a 1-10 scale of linux knowledge, certainly didn't know enough to install any distro from a CLI, however the Installation Forum made this the easiest installation i've had in a while. Sure, it was a manual installation, but the instructions they provide on their website (Which they link to on the homepage under the second link on the left, easy to find) this couldn't have been easier. What impressed me was that their instructions don't say "do this, now do this, now do this" which it does say to an extent, but it explains to you exactly why it's asking you to type everything that it's asking you to type, I think installing gentoo helped me to know what I was doing with linux in general a lot better.. I feel a lot more comfortable and familiar with the filesystem than I did before I did that install.
Why not have the ability to supply power from a external source to the locking system in event of power failure.
Y'know, after the examples I read earlier about car batteries dying because of this technology, the need to have it hooked up to a power source and what happens in the event of an emergency (I think this is something i'd have on a UPS, at least.) one person's tumbler lock idea intrigued me. They stated that it was a digital tumbler lock which powered itself up by spinning the tumbler, why not do that? It'd add yet another layer of security too. You have the light combo info on some sort of flash memory or something, then when you want to unlock your door you insert your key, spin the tumbler and maybe even set it on a particular # to activate the beams, you've now effectively eliminated any issues dealing with loss of power, wrong combonations while inserting the key (the key is already in when the beams turn on), and you've added yet 1 more variable to the mix, if you've got 1-99 on that tumbler, you've just increased the hell out of your possible combinations.
So you are looking forward to being required to get a license for your Web site and a permit for your mail server?
I know it's bad to restrict people like that, but DAMN that would make the internet a paradise (if regulated properly) especially the 'permit for your mail server'. In fact, tell me again why this is bad? We've proven ourselves to be incapable of managing our servers responsibly so far...
Am I the only one who remembers a few exploits that 95/8 were immune to because of innovations in new OSs? I mean, just a little thing like MS.Blaster. Probably didn't make the news
Yeah, did you even read the topic of the article? If they don't release a patch for it, it can't be exploited! If they didn't release patches for 95/98 for blaster, then blaster can't touch it! HAH!;)
While it's nice to see this type of work being done, the headline is misleading.
I think you're mistaken, slashdot would never attempt to mislead their readers into a frenzy of posts about something that the article never even confirms.
Well, I was just about to get myself a low-end iBook, looks like I may have to wait it out for a few months. If their reputation holds true the 800MHz 12" will be 1GHz 12" and I'll get it while it's new instead of buying a system a couple months before the new revision like I did before. (bitter? me? Heh)
The only fair thing would be to force Microsoft to not bundle the player with the OS - and that is just what EU wants.
I've read 50 other people say this so far, but for some reason it just clicked after reading your statement, so i'll respond to yours -- MS is offering to include a disc with their OS that has a copy of real/quicktime/etc/whatever right? I think the ultimate solution, like everyone (and EU) says, take WMP out of their system, do not include it, either that or make it easily uninstallable.
I say this because I'm thinking of my powerbook here.. OS X came with iTunes, but if I don't want it, if I favor something else, I drag iTunes to the trash and it's gone, simple as that.. if I want it again, I don't have to buy it, it will show up in software updates and I can just download it from apple.com or itunes.com.
That said, why can't MS just strip it from their OS, make it a program just like winamp or something. Next, you have windows automatically launch WindowsUpdate the first time it boots (which is a good practice anyways, need those updates and god knows there will be plenty.) and put WMP as a "Suggested Update" with some fancy marketing speak to lull people into downloading and installing it right away. You end up with the same result, and god knows with their Marketing Dept, MS could talk the average person into installing WMP in the Suggested Updates field.
We cancelled ours already, without knowing. We were screwed by AT&T's coverage maps being EXTREMELY inaccurate and their salespeople lying, but we got out in time to switch to Sprint.
Wow, when I read that I thought I had already posted.. but you're not me.. whew. -exact- same situation.. AT&T's coverage blows, I had a ton of dropped calls, and when I went to an AT&T store they had 2 people working, and nobody with a clue as to what they were doing, but you still had to wait 45 minutes to talk to them. I started investigating Verizon and was pleased to find people at the door greeting you and taking your name to make sure you were assigned a customer service rep as quickly as possible. I ended up going with Sprint despite being able to get killer deals with Verizon.. Sprint's phones just feel and act a lot nicer than any other companies.. they don't feel as cheap, I don't know how to explain it. I made the switch about a month ago and I couldn't be happier, Sprint has GREAT reception, and where it doesn't have reception the free roaming kicks in and you have a good signal again. Plus I like the fact that Verizon and Sprint seemed to have a lot more class than other wireless companies, the reps at both stores had nothing but praise and honest opinions of their competition. It was easy to figure out who I wanted to go with based on unbiased opinions.
Ok, not to stray from the trend of SCO threads being nothing but jokes -- but, did anybody else see that "5 Reasons To Choose UNIX Over Linux" page? Under reason 1) "SCO UNIX(R) is a Proven, Stable and Reliable Platform" it has a list of case studies such as SafeCo Field, McDonalds, and the Great Manchester Police. Given the legal battles that they're in, how fast do you think these people will demand to have their names stripped from this website? I know I would, most of them can stand up on their own publicity, this can only make people say "What were they thinking?"
It's a sign of immaturity that you have to prove yourself and exercise your ability in every small way.
Yeah, they do it for recognition and bragging rights of course, but can you imagine the recognition they'd get if they did as other people have mentioned, and wrote a virus that patched holes, instead of one that opens holes and emails people and causes mischief and mayhem? In the first scenerio, you become known worldwide your name is in the papers, and it -might- be good on a resume (might be extremely detrimental like a destructive virus, as well). In the second scenerio, your 10 friends in your IRC channel are the only people who know you did it, and all you do is inconvenience a lot of people while sitting there laughing like Beavis and Butthead... I'd take the former.
Before you damn the parents[...]who knew their kids had guns, don't forget the hundereds of thousands or maybe millions of parents that let their minor kids own guns. Don't forget that it is LEGAL for a 16 year old kid to go hunting UNACCOMPANIED by an adult. Don't forget that the VAST majority of these kids never hurt a soul and are perfectly competant to shoot only deer and not people.
Ok, I'll give you that. But let's look at another aspect of it. The parents still play a VERY large role in this. The parents are the ones who (usually) give the OK for this type of behavior to go on, owning guns, hunting, etc. I'd be willing to bet that an extremely high number of parents who got their kids guns or know their kids own guns, made DAMN sure they were educated on guns and responsible enough to use them. I know I would be, parents are liable for everything their child does with that gun until said child turns 18. These could be some of the more responsible gun owners out there due to the fact that the parents would stress the importance of safety and handling.
Guns are legal and have very legitimate uses, such as you mention, hunting (food or clothing) or defense. A Virus, on the other hand, while it may be a good exersize in coding, which I will not buy as an excuse, they can code any number of other things for practice, there is really no non-destructive use for it. Now the same can be said for guns as far as there being no non-destructive use, but like I said, with guns there is a legitimate use for it as well such as food, clothing or defending yourself and your family. A virus has no such benefit to it, and I don't see how it can be said that a parent should allow their child to write them out of boredom no matter where they live.
And is it just me? Or is her description of "countryside surrounded by soaring snowcapped mountains" sound extremely un-boring?
I have to point out that MICROSOFT DOESN'T MAKE THE RULES.
Well, unfortunately, I think they do in this case. Afterall, it's THEIR service, so you kinda gotta play by the rules to use it, the whole "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" kinda thing, loosly. If you wanna hang out at my house, you do so according to my rules.. If they aren't acceptable to you, then GTFOut.
However, on the flipside, I think it's idiotic to make someone agree to an auto-renewal system in order to use your stuff. But like I said, if you wanna use it, then you've got to weigh whether or not it's worth agreeing to their stupid rules to play.
Personally I think there's too many damned contracts in our lives today... You've got your cable contract, dsl/cable modem, your cellphone contract, xbox contract, rental lease agreement, and the list goes on.. hey at least with XBox Live there's no ridiculously large early termination fee such as with cable, dsl, cellphones, etc.. People need to stop trapping people into becoming recurring revenue I think.
I think something you could add to this plan to fight abuse is -- If someone mods it down, they guarantee that that's what they want to do by agreeing that if the moderation is reversed, it takes THEIR subscription points to repay the person who's points were originally taken?
I replaced my WET11 with a second WRT54G with modified firmware which allows me to set it to client mode like a WET device. I use this to connect to my TiVo and Xbox.
No shit? I've got a WRT54G and Cisco told me that you can NOT connect 2 of them wirelessly.. I'm currently running wires to my neighbor's apartments to share the line (and network our xboxes, and systems, etc) Is this the latest LINKSYS firmware that allowed you to set it as a client? If not, what did you use? This could be -extremely- helpful to me.
Ok, here's a question i've run into time and time again... I administer several linux boxes, latest ones we've got up are 7.3 (updated not recently, but not unrecently from 6.2) now the reason it took so long was because we thought it best to buy another server, do a fresh install, and migrate our websites over (we had been keeping approximately 200 sites per server) in order to, well, 'be safe'. I don't think i'm being paranoid in this, I think it's a good idea to do a fresh install/migration with any major OS upgrades on production servers.. Am I wrong here? Most recently we just got a new dell poweredge server to migrate a server over to, we decided to get RHEL ES (FTR)...time to start migrating.. again.. ugh, it's like a neverending chore... I guess what I'm saying is -- I think I see it as a good idea to do 100% re-installs, so I agree with the people saying so... I guess it's not absolutely necessary, though, so I disagree too.. but in a production environment with a couple hundred websites, I think it's a much better idea to reinstall than to do a straight upgrade.
No matter how fast you go, no matter how many times you cross the international dateline, it will not 'wind up' or 'wind down' the date to arbitrary values.
Dammit! this guy had me all excited that all I needed was an airplane and i'd be able to see who wins the superbowl this Sunday so I could make some serious cash...
Wrong. Better would be no one. Nothing good can come from closing up any part of an otherwise open development system, no matter who holds the papers.
Yes, but this protects everybody from someone like (this is not a bash) Microsoft, or some other corporation who would rather license this out for a hefty fee. I'd rather have a gentle corporation who's actually working within the community, and has got the community's best interest at heart snapping this up before someone with profit on the brain just stumbles upon it and thinks "Wow, I think I could make some money off of this".. IBM has eliminated the chance that someone may stumble upon it on chance and use it for profit. Now if IBM were to change their mind, that'd be a problem, but it hasn't happened yet, so let's wait for then to bitch about that part.
Even though I loved GTA3, it spent a LOT of time playing it, and don't intend to get Vice City if it's the same routine in a new city.
I never really could get into GTA3, so I don't know much about it, however some of the improvements I was made aware of had me thinking "How could anybody PLAY this game without that!?" Such as the motorcycles, those are -fun- and the Apache (or whatever, the attack copter) add a lot of fun when you just want to play around and do whatever...
One thing, is it just me? or does anyone else just *WISH* they would add back what they had in GTA, the original, where if you got killed or arrested it told you how many laws you broke, misdemeanors, felonies, murders, cops killed, etc...? I thought that added a lot to the game when you wanted to just screw around and see how long you could last with the law after you.. it'd be even more fun now with the SWAT, Feds and the armed forces chasing after you... I think they REALLY need to re-add that.
-matt
Umm.... There has never been a GTA4. GTA Vice City did not have a number in the title such as GTA3.
Heh, where have we seen this before? (SFII?). I think the best route to go here is to just stop numbering them and branch off into new names.. don't make a GTA4, or if you do, make it a completely different game. But if they just branch off into GTA:(City Name) instead, then they won't appear to be following the trend of SFII, SFII:Champion Edition, SFII Turbo CE, etc, etc, etc... I dunno, just my thoughts on the matter..
-matt
PS: That "San Andreas is ok, but it does have its faults" comment was one of the best damned puns i've read on here in a long while, heh.
It's quite simply the most masochistic installation I've ever seen. The live cd will dump you to a prompt and then it's up to you to partition your drive, mount it's filesystem, untar all the files manually, set up fstab by hand, compile and install your kernel, manually set up your bootloader, set up your networking, choose which compilation options you want to use, and then start compiling things. I think installing gentoo is a great learning experience, which leaves you with a good, stable OS.
See, I thought it was totally intimidating when a friend of mine suggested I install gentoo. Now I couldn't be happier. I'd say I was about a 5 on a 1-10 scale of linux knowledge, certainly didn't know enough to install any distro from a CLI, however the Installation Forum made this the easiest installation i've had in a while. Sure, it was a manual installation, but the instructions they provide on their website (Which they link to on the homepage under the second link on the left, easy to find) this couldn't have been easier. What impressed me was that their instructions don't say "do this, now do this, now do this" which it does say to an extent, but it explains to you exactly why it's asking you to type everything that it's asking you to type, I think installing gentoo helped me to know what I was doing with linux in general a lot better.. I feel a lot more comfortable and familiar with the filesystem than I did before I did that install.
-matt
Why not have the ability to supply power from a external source to the locking system in event of power failure.
Y'know, after the examples I read earlier about car batteries dying because of this technology, the need to have it hooked up to a power source and what happens in the event of an emergency (I think this is something i'd have on a UPS, at least.) one person's tumbler lock idea intrigued me. They stated that it was a digital tumbler lock which powered itself up by spinning the tumbler, why not do that? It'd add yet another layer of security too. You have the light combo info on some sort of flash memory or something, then when you want to unlock your door you insert your key, spin the tumbler and maybe even set it on a particular # to activate the beams, you've now effectively eliminated any issues dealing with loss of power, wrong combonations while inserting the key (the key is already in when the beams turn on), and you've added yet 1 more variable to the mix, if you've got 1-99 on that tumbler, you've just increased the hell out of your possible combinations.
-matt
So you are looking forward to being required to get a license for your Web site and a permit for your mail server?
I know it's bad to restrict people like that, but DAMN that would make the internet a paradise (if regulated properly) especially the 'permit for your mail server'. In fact, tell me again why this is bad? We've proven ourselves to be incapable of managing our servers responsibly so far...
-matt
Whatever happened to Microsoft's bovine naming scheme? I was looking forward to another mountain cat tearing a cow to pieces.
Bovine? I was under the impression they were all named after the popular localish (to Washington) mountains or ski resorts. Whistler, Longhorn, etc...
-matt
Am I the only one who remembers a few exploits that 95/8 were immune to because of innovations in new OSs? I mean, just a little thing like MS.Blaster. Probably didn't make the news
;)
Yeah, did you even read the topic of the article? If they don't release a patch for it, it can't be exploited! If they didn't release patches for 95/98 for blaster, then blaster can't touch it! HAH!
-matt
While it's nice to see this type of work being done, the headline is misleading.
I think you're mistaken, slashdot would never attempt to mislead their readers into a frenzy of posts about something that the article never even confirms.
-matt
Well, I was just about to get myself a low-end iBook, looks like I may have to wait it out for a few months. If their reputation holds true the 800MHz 12" will be 1GHz 12" and I'll get it while it's new instead of buying a system a couple months before the new revision like I did before. (bitter? me? Heh)
-matt
The only fair thing would be to force Microsoft to not bundle the player with the OS - and that is just what EU wants.
I've read 50 other people say this so far, but for some reason it just clicked after reading your statement, so i'll respond to yours -- MS is offering to include a disc with their OS that has a copy of real/quicktime/etc/whatever right? I think the ultimate solution, like everyone (and EU) says, take WMP out of their system, do not include it, either that or make it easily uninstallable.
I say this because I'm thinking of my powerbook here.. OS X came with iTunes, but if I don't want it, if I favor something else, I drag iTunes to the trash and it's gone, simple as that.. if I want it again, I don't have to buy it, it will show up in software updates and I can just download it from apple.com or itunes.com.
That said, why can't MS just strip it from their OS, make it a program just like winamp or something. Next, you have windows automatically launch WindowsUpdate the first time it boots (which is a good practice anyways, need those updates and god knows there will be plenty.) and put WMP as a "Suggested Update" with some fancy marketing speak to lull people into downloading and installing it right away. You end up with the same result, and god knows with their Marketing Dept, MS could talk the average person into installing WMP in the Suggested Updates field.
-matt
And it looks like a lot of people agree: (Google Cache)
-matt
We cancelled ours already, without knowing. We were screwed by AT&T's coverage maps being EXTREMELY inaccurate and their salespeople lying, but we got out in time to switch to Sprint.
Wow, when I read that I thought I had already posted.. but you're not me.. whew. -exact- same situation.. AT&T's coverage blows, I had a ton of dropped calls, and when I went to an AT&T store they had 2 people working, and nobody with a clue as to what they were doing, but you still had to wait 45 minutes to talk to them. I started investigating Verizon and was pleased to find people at the door greeting you and taking your name to make sure you were assigned a customer service rep as quickly as possible. I ended up going with Sprint despite being able to get killer deals with Verizon.. Sprint's phones just feel and act a lot nicer than any other companies.. they don't feel as cheap, I don't know how to explain it. I made the switch about a month ago and I couldn't be happier, Sprint has GREAT reception, and where it doesn't have reception the free roaming kicks in and you have a good signal again. Plus I like the fact that Verizon and Sprint seemed to have a lot more class than other wireless companies, the reps at both stores had nothing but praise and honest opinions of their competition. It was easy to figure out who I wanted to go with based on unbiased opinions.
-matt
but at this point I honestly do think we are near the end. I give it three months before we get to wrap this whole thing up.
Dammit, then what will slashdot do for stories!?
-matt
3. SCO UNIX(R) has a Committed, Well-Defined Roadmap
:)
Linux has a Committed development team and is actually going somewhere
Hey, they said they have a roadmap -- They're not obligated to let us know that they don't employ anybody who can actually read a map.. though..
-matt
Ok, not to stray from the trend of SCO threads being nothing but jokes -- but, did anybody else see that "5 Reasons To Choose UNIX Over Linux" page? Under reason 1) "SCO UNIX(R) is a Proven, Stable and Reliable Platform" it has a list of case studies such as SafeCo Field, McDonalds, and the Great Manchester Police. Given the legal battles that they're in, how fast do you think these people will demand to have their names stripped from this website? I know I would, most of them can stand up on their own publicity, this can only make people say "What were they thinking?"
-matt
They're fine, it's fine, everything's fine. Enjoy the movies for what they are -- an epic space adventure. Don't nitpick everything into nothingness.
Couldn't have said it better... Someone needs to tell this to Lucas.
-matt
It's a sign of immaturity that you have to prove yourself and exercise your ability in every small way.
Yeah, they do it for recognition and bragging rights of course, but can you imagine the recognition they'd get if they did as other people have mentioned, and wrote a virus that patched holes, instead of one that opens holes and emails people and causes mischief and mayhem? In the first scenerio, you become known worldwide your name is in the papers, and it -might- be good on a resume (might be extremely detrimental like a destructive virus, as well). In the second scenerio, your 10 friends in your IRC channel are the only people who know you did it, and all you do is inconvenience a lot of people while sitting there laughing like Beavis and Butthead... I'd take the former.
-matt
Before you damn the parents[...]who knew their kids had guns, don't forget the hundereds of thousands or maybe millions of parents that let their minor kids own guns. Don't forget that it is LEGAL for a 16 year old kid to go hunting UNACCOMPANIED by an adult. Don't forget that the VAST majority of these kids never hurt a soul and are perfectly competant to shoot only deer and not people.
Ok, I'll give you that. But let's look at another aspect of it. The parents still play a VERY large role in this. The parents are the ones who (usually) give the OK for this type of behavior to go on, owning guns, hunting, etc. I'd be willing to bet that an extremely high number of parents who got their kids guns or know their kids own guns, made DAMN sure they were educated on guns and responsible enough to use them. I know I would be, parents are liable for everything their child does with that gun until said child turns 18. These could be some of the more responsible gun owners out there due to the fact that the parents would stress the importance of safety and handling.
Guns are legal and have very legitimate uses, such as you mention, hunting (food or clothing) or defense. A Virus, on the other hand, while it may be a good exersize in coding, which I will not buy as an excuse, they can code any number of other things for practice, there is really no non-destructive use for it. Now the same can be said for guns as far as there being no non-destructive use, but like I said, with guns there is a legitimate use for it as well such as food, clothing or defending yourself and your family. A virus has no such benefit to it, and I don't see how it can be said that a parent should allow their child to write them out of boredom no matter where they live.
And is it just me? Or is her description of "countryside surrounded by soaring snowcapped mountains" sound extremely un-boring?
-matt
I believe that the most they can do is withdraw a company's membership and have the situation recorded in its records.
:)
Sure it's a strong move! I'm sure MS would do ANYTHING to protect their shining perfect reputation
(it's a joke.)
-matt
I have to point out that MICROSOFT DOESN'T
MAKE THE RULES.
Well, unfortunately, I think they do in this case. Afterall, it's THEIR service, so you kinda gotta play by the rules to use it, the whole "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" kinda thing, loosly. If you wanna hang out at my house, you do so according to my rules.. If they aren't acceptable to you, then GTFOut.
However, on the flipside, I think it's idiotic to make someone agree to an auto-renewal system in order to use your stuff. But like I said, if you wanna use it, then you've got to weigh whether or not it's worth agreeing to their stupid rules to play.
Personally I think there's too many damned contracts in our lives today... You've got your cable contract, dsl/cable modem, your cellphone contract, xbox contract, rental lease agreement, and the list goes on.. hey at least with XBox Live there's no ridiculously large early termination fee such as with cable, dsl, cellphones, etc.. People need to stop trapping people into becoming recurring revenue I think.
-Matt
I think something you could add to this plan to fight abuse is -- If someone mods it down, they guarantee that that's what they want to do by agreeing that if the moderation is reversed, it takes THEIR subscription points to repay the person who's points were originally taken?
-matt
I replaced my WET11 with a second WRT54G with modified firmware which allows me to set it to client mode like a WET device. I use this to connect to my TiVo and Xbox.
No shit? I've got a WRT54G and Cisco told me that you can NOT connect 2 of them wirelessly.. I'm currently running wires to my neighbor's apartments to share the line (and network our xboxes, and systems, etc) Is this the latest LINKSYS firmware that allowed you to set it as a client? If not, what did you use? This could be -extremely- helpful to me.
-matt
-matt
No matter how fast you go, no matter how many times you cross the international dateline, it will not 'wind up' or 'wind down' the date to arbitrary values.
Dammit! this guy had me all excited that all I needed was an airplane and i'd be able to see who wins the superbowl this Sunday so I could make some serious cash...
-matt
Wrong. Better would be no one. Nothing good can come from closing up any part of an otherwise open development system, no matter who holds the papers.
.. IBM has eliminated the chance that someone may stumble upon it on chance and use it for profit. Now if IBM were to change their mind, that'd be a problem, but it hasn't happened yet, so let's wait for then to bitch about that part.
Yes, but this protects everybody from someone like (this is not a bash) Microsoft, or some other corporation who would rather license this out for a hefty fee. I'd rather have a gentle corporation who's actually working within the community, and has got the community's best interest at heart snapping this up before someone with profit on the brain just stumbles upon it and thinks "Wow, I think I could make some money off of this"
-matt