Whether the video game had anything to do with it or not can't be separated from the other events in this kid's environment (family problems, school trouble, possible depression, etc.) that would have also had an impact on the level of volition.
I think this is the most overlooked (yet probably the most blatent and obvious) thing that people usually overlook. If a violent kid is being beaten at home and picked on at school and depressed and troubled with access to a weapon.. well, something's bound to give whether he plays video games, golfs, goes to the shooting range, or mixes music on his/her free time. I don't think GTA drove him over the edge... beat up at school, beat up at home, comes home and GTA is what makes him snap and go on a murdering spree? Heh, I don't think so.
Man, my first ps2 lasted a looooooooong time... I don't even know how long it was, I just replaced it about 6 months ago. The laser started having issues at one point, I tried to crack it open and work on it myself but that didn't work. Called Sony and asked them how much it'd be to repair (I have to have had the console for 2 or 3 years by this point and had broken the 'do not break this seal' sticker) and they said to mail it in to them and they'd fix it and send it back (like a 3 week turnaround, though). Turns out they had a branch (for lack of a better word) about 10 miles from me. They let me just drop it off there on my lunch break, I picked it up the next day on break for free, didn't charge me a cent. Experiences like that make me want a ps3, but with the price tag making an XB360 look reasonable, and the fact that it looks like not one person in that company is on the same page as another, I'm really starting to doubt the ps3, unfortunately.
I seriously do not think that with the current exchange rate between the dollar and chicken shit means you seriously want to own $1.5bn worth of chicken shit. And even if you did, who would buy it, even if it was worth that much?
Huge hype over the Street Figher II release on Xbox arcade. Why? Because people love it. They want it. It's old. Bring it on.
Bleh, SFII on a console can KMA. Not to sound like an elitist dickhead or anything... I just can -not- play SFII or MK games on a console. I got the "Street Fighter II Annv. Edition" and tried it out and it's just almost unplayable to me (Then again, I have a SFII arcade game in my spare bedroom, so the comparison is.. well, unfair.)
I do stand with what you said though, that's the reason I want a DS: 1) the new SMB (since it's new, but just reminds me so much of SMB1 and 3 instead of this mario world stuff) 2) the old classics games you can get for the GBA and play on it. I want to be able to play Zelda and Excitebike and SMB1-3 (with the japanese 2) and all of the other great games that I played on my first 2 Nintendo Consoles... Nintendo just seems to be the one console company that's never lost sight of where they came from or who their fans are, I like that. I'd have owned a GC if not for those godawful unusibly uncomfortable controllers, though.
So you say. I am an example of a long-time customer that just isn't interested in this offering -- we'll see if there are more people like me.
There are. I've long been a PS2 > XBox kinda guy. I just like their games better (I do like the XBox's controllers better, the positioning of the joysticks on the PS2 controller aren't the best thing IMO, but my wireless logitech helped that;) ) In any case, I have a PS2 and an XBox, and if there's a game available for both systems, despite the better grapics and probable better speed of the XBox, I still buy the PS2, I just like the system that much better. It seems to me that the XBox is just a modified computer to play games, using standard parts. The PS2 seems like a well thought out machine based on specific chips to do specific jobs, it's built to do what it does and it does it well.
That aside, I'm half tempted to pick up an XB360 and completely forget about the PS3 once the prices drop. Sony, although a long time favorite of mine since the PS1, has a -lot- of catching up to do. For me at least...
"The more articles they get, the more the acronym "PS3" gets into people's minds."
I was thinking about the fact that.. if you make too many bad decisions, when it comes time for me to purchase a console I'm going to take that all into consideration. If I've heard nothing but bad things about your system for the past 6 months, I'm buying someone else's. That being said -- This could also be a very calculated system of fake 'bad decisions'.. the high price, the lack of HD output, a company could release an overpriced underspec'd system, in order to allow society to 'barter them down' to think "wow, they may have had some ridiculous ideas when they released this thing, but they really do listen to their customers, they've added HD output, they've dropped the price a hundred bucks even before release, this thing has become affordable and well equipped! I think I'll give it a shot!"
I used to love gentoo, because I liked installing it. I liked the.. learning experience in the install, I guess... And I loved emerge. (I run OS X as my primary system) anyhow, a few weeks ago I wanted to toy around with a new OS and tried to give Ubuntu a shot. I've never seen an easier install, not windows, not OS X, nothing. It asks you what, 4 questions? Time zone, login name/passwd, the partitioning would be tough for a new user, but I think my parents could actually install Ubuntu. I like the liveCD install deal too, fully functional OS so you can try it out before even installing? Plus once it's installed it's just very nice looking, not too many programs, but enough you can get all of your basic functionality.. I'm really happy with the OS as a whole, but damn, the install just shines through.
The system simply isn't that sophsticated. The Wii might be different, though, since it has such a wildly different controler design.
Good, I loved the GC and its games, used to play it at Best Buy for a few minutes whenever I went there for anything. However the controllers are half the reason I -hated- the system... NES, great controller, SNES even better, N64 had a godawful controller (IMO), and the GameCubes was even worse. I owned the first two, opted for a PS instead of the N64 and a PS2 instead of a GC. If the revolution actually has a nice controller that is as usable as it looks, I may look into it. It's novel to say the least.
I mean you have to have a nice controller, the console can be ugly, you don't have to rely on it to play the games in the same sense that you do the controllers, you have to handle the controller, you don't have to handle the system.
Well, they mention that the only viable customers right now are large theaters, if I read correctly. That's a good sign to me. I'd love to have a -reason- to go to a theater again, and if theaters were showing movies in resolutions/clarity that are impossible to have at home, then more power to them, i'll go more often.
Wouldn't it be nice if we had tools that could make this easier?
Wouldn't it be nice if they had tested the game on standard TVs and realized that the text was substandard and actually fixed the issue? I think patches for -any- console game are absolutely unacceptable. I've noticed a lot of ugly text in a lot of games lately myself, almost unreadable, but then it could just be the widescreen TV, widescreen setting for the xbox/ps2 or whatever... But it makes it real inconvenient when you're trying to earn/spend money or exp in a game and you think "Hm... well I -think- I need either 20 more, or 80 more...."
Yeah, see, I don't mind ads so long as they're for things I'm interested in... If you could thumbs-up thumbs-down commercials via TiVo and have them tailored to what you like, I wouldn't skip past them.
Like when I tried the ad-based opera quite some time back, the ads were specific to what I liked, so I didn't mind them -- and because of this, they worked, I visited a few of the places that advertised. Kinda puts regular advertising on the level of spam in that perspective huh?
Seems to me it's mainly a hangover from the cartridge days when there were often shortages on game launch day.
Yeah, I was at GameStop the day Godfather came out, which they were taking pre-orders for months for. I was able to get my copy without a pre-order, -and- they tried to upsell me to the special edition... If you've still got 'em in stock, you didn't need to take pre-orders. They tried to get me to pre-order Scarface last time I went in there just to browse around (everyone I know's been getting those damned DSs and they look so fun..!)
Anyhow, when Scarface comes in, I'll get my copy, and I'm not going to pay for it beforehand either..
Back in my day you could just walk up to a stranger's house and ask to make a call. I really doubt that you can't still do that. You're probably not gonna get raped and killed for asking to use a phone.
Heh, I had to do that once when my car died and I was nowhere near a pay-phone, but on a major street with a neighborhood near it. I even got a nice cool drink and some air conditioning to hang out in for a few minutes while I waited for some help to arrive. Turns out the person was a local artist too, with a ton of really cool paintings. It was kinda cool heh.
Of course not. Mistakes happen. They can get easily separated in crowded areas (heck, even a Wal-Mart), and having a special-purpose phone would save parents like me a lot of panic. I would only give them the phone in these special circumstances.
There'll generally be a lost and found desk where you can meet up with one another....
They are a luxury device, and no matter what anybody says, nobody *needs* one.
Exactly, you'd think the way some people treat cellphones that it's a miracle we've lasted as long as we have as humans before their invention... Sure, they're handy in an emergency, but in the past.. 8 years or so that I've owned a cellphone? or something like that? I think I've used it for an emergency once, and the battery was damn near dead at the time. It was on the 15 in the middle of the Nevada desert (at about 2am) and had my phone not lasted long enough, there was a highway phone about 100-200 yards away, so I wouldn't have been totally screwed in that situation..
However I don't think that children should have their own cell phones (the full ones). In fact I don't think young teens should have their own cell phones either.
Start 'em out with a pager! Like I had to! No fancy schmancy phones, my mom gave me an old pager that nobody was using at her work and let me have that. The thing was gigantic, like garage door opener size. But when my parents needed to get ahold of me, they could, and I wasn't out making calls all over town with it or anything.
I don't know how the show did it, but real-time tracking has been around for at least 5 years. Maybe 10.
Yeah, but he was watching them on a map on his home system, which I'm not sure OnStar would allow you to do, who knows... the rest of your post I agree with though.
Thus, trusting your children means not monitoring them, even though it is possible to do so.
That's pretty much my point..
It's possible to give your kid a GPS phone, but that doesn't mean you -should-.
Reminds me of that hulk hogan reality show when he was spying on his daughter's date by watching the GPS in her truck... (which, is that even possible? the way that was done in the show?) even if it was staged, I think it's going too far. (well, to really do it is going too far, heh.)
So, in other words, they did "monitor and analyze (your) whereabouts", given the level of technology available at the time...
Yeah, but a GPS? That's going a bit too far IMO. Have some trust in your kids. You can't develop trust with/from your kid if you've got a GPS map of their day that you're constantly reviewing. Kids lie, they'll tell you they're going to one place when they're going to another, they always will, and it'll probably never be a dangerous situation or something that should really be of concern.. I never really lied to my parents about where I was because they were cool with wherever I wanted to go, well, as far as I can remember. I probably lied about where I was once or twice, got in trouble for it, and grew from it. I think that actually builds trust between a parent and a kid, having -some- freedom.. moreso than "where are you?" "I'm at ___'s house" "that's not what your GPS says!!"... How are you going to build trust on that? That's just a ridiculous, completely unnecessary measure, why bother putting it in their phone? Why not just give them an ankle bracelet like people on house arrest?
Ugh, when I saw that I could just picture them selling it through an electronics liquidator... "5150s, why that's just INSANE!!"...sorry for that, heh.
[WRT WalMart] Will/. cheer then as they push their weight around to shake up the *IAA monopolies?
I would, just because they may be inherently bad. I can't fault them for trying to do something that's right. I don't like that smaller businesses are being shut down because they can't compete. There's really nobody out there doing this, WalMart won't be stepping on anybody else's businesses if they do get involved, so I don't think there'd really be any harm. Also, WalMart could be -helping- by getting involved.. First off, people should be able to copy their own stuff onto their own devices, of course. Secondly, Other companies could actually -compete- with this service. WalMart buries businesses by offering impossible to match prices, well, it'd be easy to match or beat them on this one, they can't get any massive volume deals on a service like this one. Thirdly, if fair use wins out in this one due to WalMart, CC, BestBuy, etc, pushing for it, then it'll set precident allowing this type of transfer which will result in more and more (and easier and easier) people creating ways to transfer your media yourself. So yeah, I think I'd be behind them.
Well, it was from the KLOV listing, so it's not always going to be 100% accurate by everybody's standards, but I believe SFII (movie) would count since it's the same characters, with terrible Pit Fighter graphics (and van damme) As for EXIII, if it didn't make it into the arcade, that'd be why it wouldn't be listed, they seem to only list arcade games... As for the "Vs." games, those are just a bastardized version... I think the list is pretty thorough, aside maybe from the EXIII you mentioned.
Oh, and also a list of the games that they did have: (from KLOV)
You're right, though, they did pretty much try to milk the II for all it was worth, which it looks like that was the best play, because everything -after- SFII just plain sucked.
Legacy
1. Street Fighter
2. Street Fighter II - The World Warrior
3. Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition
4. Street Fighter II' Turbo* - Hyper Fighting
5. Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers
6. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
7. Street Fighter: The Movie
8. Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
9. Street Fighter EX
10. Street Fighter EX Plus
11. Street Fighter Alpha 2
12. Street Fighter EX 2
13. Street Fighter III: New Generation
14. Street Fighter III 2nd Impact - Giant Attack
15. Street Fighter Alpha 3
16. Street Fighter III 3rd Strike - Fight For The Future
* Turbo added by me, looks like KLOV was missing that part, but I have the machine, and it does in fact call it SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting.
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Whether the video game had anything to do with it or not can't be separated from the other events in this kid's environment (family problems, school trouble, possible depression, etc.) that would have also had an impact on the level of volition.
I think this is the most overlooked (yet probably the most blatent and obvious) thing that people usually overlook. If a violent kid is being beaten at home and picked on at school and depressed and troubled with access to a weapon.. well, something's bound to give whether he plays video games, golfs, goes to the shooting range, or mixes music on his/her free time. I don't think GTA drove him over the edge... beat up at school, beat up at home, comes home and GTA is what makes him snap and go on a murdering spree? Heh, I don't think so.
Man, my first ps2 lasted a looooooooong time... I don't even know how long it was, I just replaced it about 6 months ago. The laser started having issues at one point, I tried to crack it open and work on it myself but that didn't work. Called Sony and asked them how much it'd be to repair (I have to have had the console for 2 or 3 years by this point and had broken the 'do not break this seal' sticker) and they said to mail it in to them and they'd fix it and send it back (like a 3 week turnaround, though). Turns out they had a branch (for lack of a better word) about 10 miles from me. They let me just drop it off there on my lunch break, I picked it up the next day on break for free, didn't charge me a cent. Experiences like that make me want a ps3, but with the price tag making an XB360 look reasonable, and the fact that it looks like not one person in that company is on the same page as another, I'm really starting to doubt the ps3, unfortunately.
I seriously do not think that with the current exchange rate between the dollar and chicken shit means you seriously want to own $1.5bn worth of chicken shit. And even if you did, who would buy it, even if it was worth that much?
GoldenPalace.com?
Huge hype over the Street Figher II release on Xbox arcade. Why? Because people love it. They want it. It's old. Bring it on.
.. well, unfair.)
Bleh, SFII on a console can KMA. Not to sound like an elitist dickhead or anything... I just can -not- play SFII or MK games on a console. I got the "Street Fighter II Annv. Edition" and tried it out and it's just almost unplayable to me (Then again, I have a SFII arcade game in my spare bedroom, so the comparison is
I do stand with what you said though, that's the reason I want a DS: 1) the new SMB (since it's new, but just reminds me so much of SMB1 and 3 instead of this mario world stuff) 2) the old classics games you can get for the GBA and play on it. I want to be able to play Zelda and Excitebike and SMB1-3 (with the japanese 2) and all of the other great games that I played on my first 2 Nintendo Consoles... Nintendo just seems to be the one console company that's never lost sight of where they came from or who their fans are, I like that. I'd have owned a GC if not for those godawful unusibly uncomfortable controllers, though.
So you say. I am an example of a long-time customer that just isn't interested in this offering -- we'll see if there are more people like me.
;) ) In any case, I have a PS2 and an XBox, and if there's a game available for both systems, despite the better grapics and probable better speed of the XBox, I still buy the PS2, I just like the system that much better. It seems to me that the XBox is just a modified computer to play games, using standard parts. The PS2 seems like a well thought out machine based on specific chips to do specific jobs, it's built to do what it does and it does it well.
There are. I've long been a PS2 > XBox kinda guy. I just like their games better (I do like the XBox's controllers better, the positioning of the joysticks on the PS2 controller aren't the best thing IMO, but my wireless logitech helped that
That aside, I'm half tempted to pick up an XB360 and completely forget about the PS3 once the prices drop. Sony, although a long time favorite of mine since the PS1, has a -lot- of catching up to do. For me at least...
"The more articles they get, the more the acronym "PS3" gets into people's minds."
I was thinking about the fact that.. if you make too many bad decisions, when it comes time for me to purchase a console I'm going to take that all into consideration. If I've heard nothing but bad things about your system for the past 6 months, I'm buying someone else's. That being said -- This could also be a very calculated system of fake 'bad decisions'.. the high price, the lack of HD output, a company could release an overpriced underspec'd system, in order to allow society to 'barter them down' to think "wow, they may have had some ridiculous ideas when they released this thing, but they really do listen to their customers, they've added HD output, they've dropped the price a hundred bucks even before release, this thing has become affordable and well equipped! I think I'll give it a shot!"
I used to love gentoo, because I liked installing it. I liked the .. learning experience in the install, I guess... And I loved emerge. (I run OS X as my primary system) anyhow, a few weeks ago I wanted to toy around with a new OS and tried to give Ubuntu a shot. I've never seen an easier install, not windows, not OS X, nothing. It asks you what, 4 questions? Time zone, login name/passwd, the partitioning would be tough for a new user, but I think my parents could actually install Ubuntu. I like the liveCD install deal too, fully functional OS so you can try it out before even installing? Plus once it's installed it's just very nice looking, not too many programs, but enough you can get all of your basic functionality.. I'm really happy with the OS as a whole, but damn, the install just shines through.
The system simply isn't that sophsticated. The Wii might be different, though, since it has such a wildly different controler design.
Good, I loved the GC and its games, used to play it at Best Buy for a few minutes whenever I went there for anything. However the controllers are half the reason I -hated- the system... NES, great controller, SNES even better, N64 had a godawful controller (IMO), and the GameCubes was even worse. I owned the first two, opted for a PS instead of the N64 and a PS2 instead of a GC. If the revolution actually has a nice controller that is as usable as it looks, I may look into it. It's novel to say the least.
I mean you have to have a nice controller, the console can be ugly, you don't have to rely on it to play the games in the same sense that you do the controllers, you have to handle the controller, you don't have to handle the system.
Well, they mention that the only viable customers right now are large theaters, if I read correctly. That's a good sign to me. I'd love to have a -reason- to go to a theater again, and if theaters were showing movies in resolutions/clarity that are impossible to have at home, then more power to them, i'll go more often.
Wouldn't it be nice if we had tools that could make this easier?
Wouldn't it be nice if they had tested the game on standard TVs and realized that the text was substandard and actually fixed the issue? I think patches for -any- console game are absolutely unacceptable. I've noticed a lot of ugly text in a lot of games lately myself, almost unreadable, but then it could just be the widescreen TV, widescreen setting for the xbox/ps2 or whatever... But it makes it real inconvenient when you're trying to earn/spend money or exp in a game and you think "Hm... well I -think- I need either 20 more, or 80 more...."
Yeah, see, I don't mind ads so long as they're for things I'm interested in... If you could thumbs-up thumbs-down commercials via TiVo and have them tailored to what you like, I wouldn't skip past them.
Like when I tried the ad-based opera quite some time back, the ads were specific to what I liked, so I didn't mind them -- and because of this, they worked, I visited a few of the places that advertised. Kinda puts regular advertising on the level of spam in that perspective huh?
Seems to me it's mainly a hangover from the cartridge days when there were often shortages on game launch day.
Yeah, I was at GameStop the day Godfather came out, which they were taking pre-orders for months for. I was able to get my copy without a pre-order, -and- they tried to upsell me to the special edition... If you've still got 'em in stock, you didn't need to take pre-orders. They tried to get me to pre-order Scarface last time I went in there just to browse around (everyone I know's been getting those damned DSs and they look so fun..!)
Anyhow, when Scarface comes in, I'll get my copy, and I'm not going to pay for it beforehand either..
Giving a store your hard earned money months in advance for something you have yet to recieve is foolish
:(
NOW you tell me... stupid DNF pre-order.. I've been waiting for years
Back in my day you could just walk up to a stranger's house and ask to make a call. I really doubt that you can't still do that. You're probably not gonna get raped and killed for asking to use a phone.
Heh, I had to do that once when my car died and I was nowhere near a pay-phone, but on a major street with a neighborhood near it. I even got a nice cool drink and some air conditioning to hang out in for a few minutes while I waited for some help to arrive. Turns out the person was a local artist too, with a ton of really cool paintings. It was kinda cool heh.
Of course not. Mistakes happen. They can get easily separated in crowded areas (heck, even a Wal-Mart), and having a special-purpose phone would save parents like me a lot of panic. I would only give them the phone in these special circumstances.
There'll generally be a lost and found desk where you can meet up with one another....
They are a luxury device, and no matter what anybody says, nobody *needs* one.
.. 8 years or so that I've owned a cellphone? or something like that? I think I've used it for an emergency once, and the battery was damn near dead at the time. It was on the 15 in the middle of the Nevada desert (at about 2am) and had my phone not lasted long enough, there was a highway phone about 100-200 yards away, so I wouldn't have been totally screwed in that situation..
Exactly, you'd think the way some people treat cellphones that it's a miracle we've lasted as long as we have as humans before their invention... Sure, they're handy in an emergency, but in the past
No payphones in that 6 mile walk?
However I don't think that children should have their own cell phones (the full ones). In fact I don't think young teens should have their own cell phones either.
Start 'em out with a pager! Like I had to! No fancy schmancy phones, my mom gave me an old pager that nobody was using at her work and let me have that. The thing was gigantic, like garage door opener size. But when my parents needed to get ahold of me, they could, and I wasn't out making calls all over town with it or anything.
I don't know how the show did it, but real-time tracking has been around for at least 5 years. Maybe 10.
Yeah, but he was watching them on a map on his home system, which I'm not sure OnStar would allow you to do, who knows... the rest of your post I agree with though.
Thus, trusting your children means not monitoring them, even though it is possible to do so.
That's pretty much my point..
It's possible to give your kid a GPS phone, but that doesn't mean you -should-.
Reminds me of that hulk hogan reality show when he was spying on his daughter's date by watching the GPS in her truck... (which, is that even possible? the way that was done in the show?) even if it was staged, I think it's going too far. (well, to really do it is going too far, heh.)
So, in other words, they did "monitor and analyze (your) whereabouts", given the level of technology available at the time...
... How are you going to build trust on that? That's just a ridiculous, completely unnecessary measure, why bother putting it in their phone? Why not just give them an ankle bracelet like people on house arrest?
Yeah, but a GPS? That's going a bit too far IMO. Have some trust in your kids. You can't develop trust with/from your kid if you've got a GPS map of their day that you're constantly reviewing. Kids lie, they'll tell you they're going to one place when they're going to another, they always will, and it'll probably never be a dangerous situation or something that should really be of concern.. I never really lied to my parents about where I was because they were cool with wherever I wanted to go, well, as far as I can remember. I probably lied about where I was once or twice, got in trouble for it, and grew from it. I think that actually builds trust between a parent and a kid, having -some- freedom.. moreso than "where are you?" "I'm at ___'s house" "that's not what your GPS says!!"
But hey, dual 5150s for $2500?
...sorry for that, heh.
Ugh, when I saw that I could just picture them selling it through an electronics liquidator... "5150s, why that's just INSANE!!"
[WRT WalMart] Will /. cheer then as they push their weight around to shake up the *IAA monopolies?
I would, just because they may be inherently bad. I can't fault them for trying to do something that's right. I don't like that smaller businesses are being shut down because they can't compete. There's really nobody out there doing this, WalMart won't be stepping on anybody else's businesses if they do get involved, so I don't think there'd really be any harm. Also, WalMart could be -helping- by getting involved.. First off, people should be able to copy their own stuff onto their own devices, of course. Secondly, Other companies could actually -compete- with this service. WalMart buries businesses by offering impossible to match prices, well, it'd be easy to match or beat them on this one, they can't get any massive volume deals on a service like this one. Thirdly, if fair use wins out in this one due to WalMart, CC, BestBuy, etc, pushing for it, then it'll set precident allowing this type of transfer which will result in more and more (and easier and easier) people creating ways to transfer your media yourself. So yeah, I think I'd be behind them.
Well, it was from the KLOV listing, so it's not always going to be 100% accurate by everybody's standards, but I believe SFII (movie) would count since it's the same characters, with terrible Pit Fighter graphics (and van damme) As for EXIII, if it didn't make it into the arcade, that'd be why it wouldn't be listed, they seem to only list arcade games... As for the "Vs." games, those are just a bastardized version... I think the list is pretty thorough, aside maybe from the EXIII you mentioned.
Oh, and also a list of the games that they did have: (from KLOV)
You're right, though, they did pretty much try to milk the II for all it was worth, which it looks like that was the best play, because everything -after- SFII just plain sucked.
Legacy
1. Street Fighter
2. Street Fighter II - The World Warrior
3. Street Fighter II' - Champion Edition
4. Street Fighter II' Turbo* - Hyper Fighting
5. Super Street Fighter II - The New Challengers
6. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
7. Street Fighter: The Movie
8. Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
9. Street Fighter EX
10. Street Fighter EX Plus
11. Street Fighter Alpha 2
12. Street Fighter EX 2
13. Street Fighter III: New Generation
14. Street Fighter III 2nd Impact - Giant Attack
15. Street Fighter Alpha 3
16. Street Fighter III 3rd Strike - Fight For The Future
* Turbo added by me, looks like KLOV was missing that part, but I have the machine, and it does in fact call it SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting.