why do they keep making street fighter 2 games? shouldn't the number go up once in a while?
Well they also -could- have gone with SFIII, but that game was terrible, and SFII: The New Warriors didn't really add anything... IMO SFII: Hyper Fighting was probably the most balanced version of the game. That's probably why they're using II instead of any of the newer versions of the game... that and it's probably a much smaller game, so it'd be more suitable for their online arcade or whatever...
The title screen of the copy of Street Fighter II Turbo for Super NES that I rented said "Hyper Fighting" where the original said "The World Warrior". Wikipedia backs me up. Perhaps you're thinking of the fact that the word Turbo was left out of the arcade game's title in some markets.
SFII (the original, where only one person could use one character) was "The World Warrior" then came Champion Edition where 2 people could use the same person, then came SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting which was I guess just a slightly enhanced, sped up version of SFII CE, after that were all of the pirate versions, rainbow edition and such, then the alphas and SFIII, but yeah, this is just a port of the (IMO) most well rounded version of the game.
I actually bought the PCB off of ebay then went to an arcade game auction, turns out someone was selling the exact cabinet/game that I already had, so I've got my own SFII Hyper Fighting cabinet @home, for less than the cost of any of my consoles. IMO the only way to play SFII is on an arcade cabinet, console controlers just don't do the fighting games (SFII, MK, Etc) justice (except maybe Tekken, that one's pretty good for use with a console controller)
I realize Myspace.com is a big website, but how is this news? If MySpace is down due to being bombed, then okay, I want to read about that. But otherwise, I don't really consider this newsworthy.
2 Reasons I can think of... first, wasn't it preached as the number one most visited site on the internet recently? That's pretty big if that's true and the site is down, and 2, if you have a site that's worth as much as myspace and it goes down, that's bad news for somebody... 580M USD, and it's down for a day for something like a power outage? For the amount that site is now worth, you'd think people would have dropped some cash on some redundancy.. That's why it was news to me..
You're implying that myspace doesn't get anything from its subscribers, when it does. They make tons of money on the advertisements you click on or see. All those sites that integrate with it also contribute money to myspace.
What has me absolutely shocked about this is:
"Murdoch buys MySpace for 580 mil."
They spent over half a billion dollars to purchase the site, and it's knocked out by a POWER OUTAGE? In their ONE datacenter?
I've researched multi-location redundancy for my company and have found that it's pretty expensive to have a seamless switchover when a server dies, however if it's to protect a 580 million dollar investment, a hundred grand in redundancy equipment and hosting fees at 4 or 5 datacenters scattered across the country could be seen as a great (and cheap) insurance policy for your uptime and your advertisers..
Daytona USA 2 was mentioned in the article, and it's 7 bloody years old.
And it was a great game then, and still is now. At Dave n' Busters they have I think 8 of those networked where you can race against 7 other people and every time I walked in there it was packed.. The cool thing about those isn't that you have a unique track to race, it's that you have a unique racing experience based on the other people seated around you, makes it fun.
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me -- I wish I could go back and edit my posts because I wanted to bring up this point myself and I forgot.
This card based arcade game system blows, sure it's good for the arcade, guaranteed 20 bucks worth of gaming (wow, 10 games) and it's 'convenient' for the kids, because you only have to carry one card! but you can't keep track of how much you have as easily when it's in that stupid card, D&B and Gameworks are the WORST with this too, because 20 bucks gets you something like 17 credits or some strange number last time I worked, where it wasn't 20 credits, or 20 dollars, it was hard to even get the math to work with how much you got on those cards, and then they charge some weird shit like 7.5 credits for a game, so it's hard to work out how much of your card that'll take up or how much that is in real money. Stop trying to confuse kids (and adults) and just use friggin' quarters, was it really that hard to manage all of those quarters? Not everything needs to be paperless, I'm sure those credit cards are the arcade accountant or manager's dream, no more trips to the money sorter or bringing in bags of quarters to the bank or whatever.. but seriously, make it fun for the kids, and easy to figure out how much something costs, confusing price schemes at a kid's arcade is just dirty. That being said, I won't play at an arcade that requires a card, I'll grab a few quarters out of my pocket though while walking past a machine that accepts them.. So I guess that's one win for the quarter machines (that assumes that said machine is under a dollar, too.) Those guys win my money whenever.
The only way to do that is to make arcade games substantially more durable, because they are expensive to maintain.
Iiiiii'd have to disagree with ya' there... my cabinet is -extremely- durable, I think you'd need an axe to hurt that thing... i'm sure it's pushin' more than 300lbs of some very solid wood added with a very heavy 29" monitor, and it's still not top-heavy. These things are incredibly durable..
Absolutely -- you want to revitalize an arcade, drop the prices. Hell I used to play SFII at a local deli by my house as a kid, seriously, these people made a killing off of us. We'd get up to go wait for the bus a couple hours early and play $1 to start, $.50 to continue (genius, insures that quarters keep going into that thing, because nobody wants to pay a dollar, and it's constant PvP so someone is losing and having to put in another $.50)...I swear I put so much money in that machine it was ridiculous, ended up buying one about 10 years later, and I probably spent more on it as a kid than I did when I purchased the damned thing. You drop prices back down to the 50/25 or 1/50 that they USED to be, and you can be sure people will come back, hell, half the 'new' customers would be people of our generation going back to play old favorites on the cheap. Because seriously, as has been said before, you just can't play some games on the console. I have that cabinet, and I had SFII Annv. for PS2, playing it on PS2 is a joke, there's too much missing.
Now that I think about it... when I had that Nickel Nickel arcade near me, at 25 or so I was going to play games on my lunch break when I felt like gettin' away from the office for a while, it cost me 1.95 to get in, and I'd play another 75c to a dollar while I was in there, and I'd gone there several times. However, I won't even give an arcade game in an arcade or theater or whatever a second look...
One last problem, originality.. Seriously, is Time Crisis THAT much different from House of the Dead, or isn't there a Ghost Recon in the arcade that's just like it too? They're all the same, just another shooter, just another racecar game... but now the racecar games use real cars... why bother? Datona USA didn't use real cars, SF Rush (The Rock kicked ass) didn't use real cars... Hard Drivin' didn't use real cars, those games all kicked ass, original and fun. Just make new and original games, and charge $1 or less for them and you're set... Hell, I walked through an arcade at the casino (went to the theater there) last weekend, the only game I saw there I wanted to play was a sit-down Mario Kart.. They had a ROLLER COASTER game for godsakes... you put in few dollars, and it moves, and you're in a roller coaster for 2 minutes... hell, that casino has a REAL roller coaster for 12 bucks (which granted, it's a lot, but the fake video game roller coaster was like 3 or 4 bucks I think.)
Arcade managers have head up the ass disease lately. And we all pay for that.:(
"They should have Penny, Nickel, Dime, and Quarter Arcade games... just like they have Slots."
Some places do, back when I lived in Huntington Beach in CA we had 2 or 3 within driving distance, "Nickel Nickel" I believe Capcom bought them out, but it was $1.95 to get in, all games took the same number of nickels that it took in quarters elsewhere (for instance, Street Fighter II (which I bought one;), tekken, MK) the games that used to take 2 quarters to start and 1 to continue, took 2 nickels to start and one to continue.. which was great, Top Skater was 20 cents. Older games, Ivan Stewart's Super Off Road, PacMan, Galaga, the ORIGINAL Star Wars game, Frogger, Bad Dudes, Double Dragon, the D&D games.. forget their names... Tempest, all of the older games were free. They probably had 30 or 40 games that were all free (maybe even more) the others, nothing cost you more than 20 cents per play. Loved that place, went there on lunch breaks from time to time.;)
Why shouldn't it be allowed, as long as they are not romancing in the office?
Because some people (most probably) have a hard time leaving personal business at the door. What if you get in a fight the night before or that morning, now you have to work with one another all day and possibly resent one another all day, this could affect business in a major way. What if one of you is a manager? Then people will cry favoritism on your decisions involving S/O, plus what if you have to discipline him/her, that would be tough, and even if you do the right thing, someone will say you went easy on him/her, nothing you ever do as far as rewarding or disciplining that person will -ever- be right...
Well you're right, they didn't replace with Seven, they added him on to sort of replace the 'child element' of the show though.. whether it was as a lesson or not.. Kinda like Olivia didn't REPLACE Rudy (and have you seen her lately? wow..) but she took her place as the 'cute little kid who does cute little kid things like call 900# joke lines'..
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Actually, Family Guy humor comes from their making jokes which are so repetitious that they aren't funny any more, but annoying, and then taking it a step further until it becomes funny that they're dragging the joke out, then they drag it out just a little more to make it that much more annoying.
I think Matt and Trey put it best in their South Park vs. Family Guy episode..
Especially since these characters would be too hard to replace. Thank God the writers realize this, or the Simpsons would go the way of Saved By The Bell.
Ugh... other examples would probably be Olivia of the Cosby Show or Seven from Married w/Children... man, were those ever bad ideas... Oh and that kid from Diff'rent Strokes.. I wish people would just end on a high note instead of trying to replace the kids with new kids... in my MWC example, I think Kelly and Bud got even -funnier- as they got older, no need to 'replace' the child aspect with that jackass Seven..
If some recently laid-off developer is basing their financial survival on winning a BMW from SCO...well...it's no wonder they're unemployed.
Plus you can't pay the bills with a car, either. And as fans of Oprah discovered, the tax and registration on a car (and theirs weren't 'expensive' cars) still adds up when you can't afford the car to begin with. So prizes like that are only good for the people who are getting by on their own already.
"The Hudson River was loaded with raw sewage. That's right, we swam in raw sewage. You know, to cool off. And back then the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids every year were dying of polio. But you know what, in my neighborhood, nobody ever got polio. No one. Ever. You know why? BECAUSE WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE. It strengthened our immune system. The polio never had a chance. We were tempered in raw shit.
What are you going to do when some super virus comes along that turns your vital organs into liquid shit? I'll tell you what you're gonna do. You're gonna get sick and you're gonna die and you're gonna deserve it because you're fuckin' weak and you have a fuckin' weak immune system."
Yeah, but you need to get up from your chair, go to a frigging Wal-Mart, stand in line and then drive back home in order to get that movie. And when you watch that movie, you get FBI warning, RIAA warning and studio-warning that copying the movie is bad.
And by the time you get back, your download should almost be finished, maybe... And you'll probably still get all of the standard warnings.
Also I hope these videos aren't at the same resolution as the TV shows..
Anyone who even sets a foot into best buy is taking a dangerous chance.
I know some people have, but after thousands of dollars in purchases (big and small) most of my DVDs are from there, same with CDs, most Games, Cameras, computer parts, some appliances, and part of my entertainment center, I have -never- had even one problem with the store.. I've taken things back opened and had them credited..
Commenting on the incident, Baltimore County police spokesman Bill Toohey told the Sun: "It's a sign that we're all a little nervous in the post-9/11 world."
And what the hell does -that- have to do with -anything- at all? A guy tries to pay with $2 bills and it makes them 'a little nervous in the post-9/11 world'!? That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard all morning..
7 bucks? Where do you see the DVD movies for that much? I see like 15-20 bucks.
I've seen them for 4.99 as well. Generally the newer stuff is 14, generally -most- stuff is 14, which makes this move a bit confusing to me.. Why do they want tiered pricing online when their pricing is pretty much set around 15 bucks for anything in the stores? (ok MSRP is more like 20, and some movies sell for that, but still, I usually see most of the movies on the rack for 14.)
I was thinking.. there's no way I would plug in a -found- drive like that to just anything.. windows machine? definitely not.. my powerbook?...I don't think so, just to be on the safe side. But maybe booting up a gentoo LiveCD or something, that may be an option for the paranoid.
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why do they keep making street fighter 2 games? shouldn't the number go up once in a while?
Well they also -could- have gone with SFIII, but that game was terrible, and SFII: The New Warriors didn't really add anything... IMO SFII: Hyper Fighting was probably the most balanced version of the game. That's probably why they're using II instead of any of the newer versions of the game... that and it's probably a much smaller game, so it'd be more suitable for their online arcade or whatever...
The title screen of the copy of Street Fighter II Turbo for Super NES that I rented said "Hyper Fighting" where the original said "The World Warrior". Wikipedia backs me up. Perhaps you're thinking of the fact that the word Turbo was left out of the arcade game's title in some markets.
That's because SFII:Turbo -was- Hyper Fighting:
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SFII (the original, where only one person could use one character) was "The World Warrior"
then came Champion Edition where 2 people could use the same person, then came SFII Turbo: Hyper Fighting which was I guess just a slightly enhanced, sped up version of SFII CE, after that were all of the pirate versions, rainbow edition and such, then the alphas and SFIII, but yeah, this is just a port of the (IMO) most well rounded version of the game.
I actually bought the PCB off of ebay then went to an arcade game auction, turns out someone was selling the exact cabinet/game that I already had, so I've got my own SFII Hyper Fighting cabinet @home, for less than the cost of any of my consoles. IMO the only way to play SFII is on an arcade cabinet, console controlers just don't do the fighting games (SFII, MK, Etc) justice (except maybe Tekken, that one's pretty good for use with a console controller)
I realize Myspace.com is a big website, but how is this news? If MySpace is down due to being bombed, then okay, I want to read about that. But otherwise, I don't really consider this newsworthy.
2 Reasons I can think of... first, wasn't it preached as the number one most visited site on the internet recently? That's pretty big if that's true and the site is down, and 2, if you have a site that's worth as much as myspace and it goes down, that's bad news for somebody... 580M USD, and it's down for a day for something like a power outage? For the amount that site is now worth, you'd think people would have dropped some cash on some redundancy.. That's why it was news to me..
You're implying that myspace doesn't get anything from its subscribers, when it does. They make tons of money on the advertisements you click on or see. All those sites that integrate with it also contribute money to myspace.
What has me absolutely shocked about this is:
"Murdoch buys MySpace for 580 mil."
They spent over half a billion dollars to purchase the site, and it's knocked out by a POWER OUTAGE? In their ONE datacenter?
I've researched multi-location redundancy for my company and have found that it's pretty expensive to have a seamless switchover when a server dies, however if it's to protect a 580 million dollar investment, a hundred grand in redundancy equipment and hosting fees at 4 or 5 datacenters scattered across the country could be seen as a great (and cheap) insurance policy for your uptime and your advertisers..
Daytona USA 2 was mentioned in the article, and it's 7 bloody years old.
And it was a great game then, and still is now. At Dave n' Busters they have I think 8 of those networked where you can race against 7 other people and every time I walked in there it was packed.. The cool thing about those isn't that you have a unique track to race, it's that you have a unique racing experience based on the other people seated around you, makes it fun.
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me -- I wish I could go back and edit my posts because I wanted to bring up this point myself and I forgot.
This card based arcade game system blows, sure it's good for the arcade, guaranteed 20 bucks worth of gaming (wow, 10 games) and it's 'convenient' for the kids, because you only have to carry one card! but you can't keep track of how much you have as easily when it's in that stupid card, D&B and Gameworks are the WORST with this too, because 20 bucks gets you something like 17 credits or some strange number last time I worked, where it wasn't 20 credits, or 20 dollars, it was hard to even get the math to work with how much you got on those cards, and then they charge some weird shit like 7.5 credits for a game, so it's hard to work out how much of your card that'll take up or how much that is in real money. Stop trying to confuse kids (and adults) and just use friggin' quarters, was it really that hard to manage all of those quarters? Not everything needs to be paperless, I'm sure those credit cards are the arcade accountant or manager's dream, no more trips to the money sorter or bringing in bags of quarters to the bank or whatever.. but seriously, make it fun for the kids, and easy to figure out how much something costs, confusing price schemes at a kid's arcade is just dirty. That being said, I won't play at an arcade that requires a card, I'll grab a few quarters out of my pocket though while walking past a machine that accepts them.. So I guess that's one win for the quarter machines (that assumes that said machine is under a dollar, too.) Those guys win my money whenever.
The only way to do that is to make arcade games substantially more durable, because they are expensive to maintain.
Iiiiii'd have to disagree with ya' there... my cabinet is -extremely- durable, I think you'd need an axe to hurt that thing... i'm sure it's pushin' more than 300lbs of some very solid wood added with a very heavy 29" monitor, and it's still not top-heavy. These things are incredibly durable..
Absolutely -- you want to revitalize an arcade, drop the prices. Hell I used to play SFII at a local deli by my house as a kid, seriously, these people made a killing off of us. We'd get up to go wait for the bus a couple hours early and play $1 to start, $.50 to continue (genius, insures that quarters keep going into that thing, because nobody wants to pay a dollar, and it's constant PvP so someone is losing and having to put in another $.50) ...I swear I put so much money in that machine it was ridiculous, ended up buying one about 10 years later, and I probably spent more on it as a kid than I did when I purchased the damned thing. You drop prices back down to the 50/25 or 1/50 that they USED to be, and you can be sure people will come back, hell, half the 'new' customers would be people of our generation going back to play old favorites on the cheap. Because seriously, as has been said before, you just can't play some games on the console. I have that cabinet, and I had SFII Annv. for PS2, playing it on PS2 is a joke, there's too much missing.
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Now that I think about it... when I had that Nickel Nickel arcade near me, at 25 or so I was going to play games on my lunch break when I felt like gettin' away from the office for a while, it cost me 1.95 to get in, and I'd play another 75c to a dollar while I was in there, and I'd gone there several times. However, I won't even give an arcade game in an arcade or theater or whatever a second look...
One last problem, originality.. Seriously, is Time Crisis THAT much different from House of the Dead, or isn't there a Ghost Recon in the arcade that's just like it too? They're all the same, just another shooter, just another racecar game... but now the racecar games use real cars... why bother? Datona USA didn't use real cars, SF Rush (The Rock kicked ass) didn't use real cars... Hard Drivin' didn't use real cars, those games all kicked ass, original and fun. Just make new and original games, and charge $1 or less for them and you're set... Hell, I walked through an arcade at the casino (went to the theater there) last weekend, the only game I saw there I wanted to play was a sit-down Mario Kart.. They had a ROLLER COASTER game for godsakes... you put in few dollars, and it moves, and you're in a roller coaster for 2 minutes... hell, that casino has a REAL roller coaster for 12 bucks (which granted, it's a lot, but the fake video game roller coaster was like 3 or 4 bucks I think.)
Arcade managers have head up the ass disease lately. And we all pay for that.
"They should have Penny, Nickel, Dime, and Quarter Arcade games ... just like they have Slots."
;), tekken, MK) the games that used to take 2 quarters to start and 1 to continue, took 2 nickels to start and one to continue.. which was great, Top Skater was 20 cents. Older games, Ivan Stewart's Super Off Road, PacMan, Galaga, the ORIGINAL Star Wars game, Frogger, Bad Dudes, Double Dragon, the D&D games.. forget their names... Tempest, all of the older games were free. They probably had 30 or 40 games that were all free (maybe even more) the others, nothing cost you more than 20 cents per play. Loved that place, went there on lunch breaks from time to time. ;)
Some places do, back when I lived in Huntington Beach in CA we had 2 or 3 within driving distance, "Nickel Nickel" I believe Capcom bought them out, but it was $1.95 to get in, all games took the same number of nickels that it took in quarters elsewhere (for instance, Street Fighter II (which I bought one
Why shouldn't it be allowed, as long as they are not romancing in the office?
Because some people (most probably) have a hard time leaving personal business at the door. What if you get in a fight the night before or that morning, now you have to work with one another all day and possibly resent one another all day, this could affect business in a major way. What if one of you is a manager? Then people will cry favoritism on your decisions involving S/O, plus what if you have to discipline him/her, that would be tough, and even if you do the right thing, someone will say you went easy on him/her, nothing you ever do as far as rewarding or disciplining that person will -ever- be right...
for the record, that was intended entirely as a joke, treating Married With Children as a lesson-teaching show. Yeah- Seven sucked.
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Hey now you're getting personal, my parents used that show to teach me about morals and being an upstanding successful human being..
The show didn't replace with Seven.
Well you're right, they didn't replace with Seven, they added him on to sort of replace the 'child element' of the show though.. whether it was as a lesson or not.. Kinda like Olivia didn't REPLACE Rudy (and have you seen her lately? wow..) but she took her place as the 'cute little kid who does cute little kid things like call 900# joke lines'..
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Frank Kramer from OC's Frosty Heidi and Frank show would tend to agree
Actually, Family Guy humor comes from their making jokes which are so repetitious that they aren't funny any more, but annoying, and then taking it a step further until it becomes funny that they're dragging the joke out, then they drag it out just a little more to make it that much more annoying.
I think Matt and Trey put it best in their South Park vs. Family Guy episode..
Especially since these characters would be too hard to replace. Thank God the writers realize this, or the Simpsons would go the way of Saved By The Bell.
Ugh... other examples would probably be Olivia of the Cosby Show or Seven from Married w/Children... man, were those ever bad ideas... Oh and that kid from Diff'rent Strokes.. I wish people would just end on a high note instead of trying to replace the kids with new kids... in my MWC example, I think Kelly and Bud got even -funnier- as they got older, no need to 'replace' the child aspect with that jackass Seven..
If some recently laid-off developer is basing their financial survival on winning a BMW from SCO...well...it's no wonder they're unemployed.
Plus you can't pay the bills with a car, either. And as fans of Oprah discovered, the tax and registration on a car (and theirs weren't 'expensive' cars) still adds up when you can't afford the car to begin with. So prizes like that are only good for the people who are getting by on their own already.
D'oh! Shoulda read ahead (and known) someone would beat me to the punch on that one, sorry 'bout that.
Reminds me of the Carlin bit:
"The Hudson River was loaded with raw sewage. That's right, we swam in raw sewage. You know, to cool off. And back then the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids every year were dying of polio. But you know what, in my neighborhood, nobody ever got polio. No one. Ever. You know why? BECAUSE WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE. It strengthened our immune system. The polio never had a chance. We were tempered in raw shit.
What are you going to do when some super virus comes along that turns your vital organs into liquid shit? I'll tell you what you're gonna do. You're gonna get sick and you're gonna die and you're gonna deserve it because you're fuckin' weak and you have a fuckin' weak immune system."
Yeah, but you need to get up from your chair, go to a frigging Wal-Mart, stand in line and then drive back home in order to get that movie. And when you watch that movie, you get FBI warning, RIAA warning and studio-warning that copying the movie is bad.
And by the time you get back, your download should almost be finished, maybe... And you'll probably still get all of the standard warnings.
Also I hope these videos aren't at the same resolution as the TV shows..
Anyone who even sets a foot into best buy is taking a dangerous chance.
I know some people have, but after thousands of dollars in purchases (big and small) most of my DVDs are from there, same with CDs, most Games, Cameras, computer parts, some appliances, and part of my entertainment center, I have -never- had even one problem with the store.. I've taken things back opened and had them credited..
Commenting on the incident, Baltimore County police spokesman Bill Toohey told the Sun: "It's a sign that we're all a little nervous in the post-9/11 world."
And what the hell does -that- have to do with -anything- at all? A guy tries to pay with $2 bills and it makes them 'a little nervous in the post-9/11 world'!? That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard all morning..
7 bucks? Where do you see the DVD movies for that much? I see like 15-20 bucks.
I've seen them for 4.99 as well. Generally the newer stuff is 14, generally -most- stuff is 14, which makes this move a bit confusing to me.. Why do they want tiered pricing online when their pricing is pretty much set around 15 bucks for anything in the stores? (ok MSRP is more like 20, and some movies sell for that, but still, I usually see most of the movies on the rack for 14.)
Oooh I just saw that, dirty.
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Then again, he probably won't make much, people would have to click on the article for that.
Stealth datacenters? Sweeet!
Now if they're guarding it with stealth -tanks-...
I was thinking .. there's no way I would plug in a -found- drive like that to just anything.. windows machine? definitely not.. my powerbook? ...I don't think so, just to be on the safe side. But maybe booting up a gentoo LiveCD or something, that may be an option for the paranoid.
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Professor: Anywho, your net suits will let you experience Fry's worm-infested bowels as if you were actually wriggling through them.
Dr. Zoidberg: There's no part of that sentence I didn't like.