No, I work for a private bank based somewhere "not in America".
You can see all of the OS code of OS X. The only think hidden is the UI. Only a complete ignoramous would worry about "back doors" in a desktop UI.
*YOU* work for dumbasses, because only dumbasses would hire you. If you don't think a backdoor can be put in a GUI, you've never coded. Eat me. You think Apple Updater is a part of the kernel? Do you think Mozilla is part of the kernel? It seems to connect to the internet just fine. Same with the spyware you obviously have on your system, thinking you're immune like that.
As for proving it to their bosses, show them the OS code, and how would those bosses know they are not looking at the Aqua code, as well?
That's it, AC, lie to your bosses. What are you, 10? Moron. This is exactly why I have all but given up on taking most Linux users seriously. It seems like the Linux world is now dominated by people who [whiny crap snipped]
OH, shut up. You're an idiot. What a clueless flamebait. The point of free software is that it's distributed. The work is spread out. Many hands make light work, and many eyes make all bugs shallow. I contribute, but not to the GUI. What do you do? Oh, that's right. You're an Anonymous gutless Slashdot troll. Roll over and die, puke.
Every P2P download should have a EULA stating something like:
The file I am about to transfer is from one computer I own to another which I also own. I am not transferring this file to another individual, but from my server to my workstation. I am merely using this P2P network to accomplish my file reorganization. This is a legal and ethical use of this peer to peer network. Also, please note that I am in the habit of naming my personal, encrypted accounting files after Metallica songs, so they are easy to remember and will confuse any hackers trying to access my finances. I am not worried that anybody would mistake my personal files for actual Metallica songs and download them, because as everybody knows, Metallica sucks. This makes these files totally unappealing and therefore they are left alone. Since they are encrypted, I claim the protection of the DMCA. If you try to run these misnamed "mp3" files in any application other than Quicken (for the Macintosh of course), you are in violation of the DMCA and will be punished to the full extent of the law.
Well, it could use some work, but there's got to be some sort of legal disclaimer that protects the masses against people who pry into your business.
And Aqua's closed. Closed "standards" generally find it hard to gain full acceptance in the Unix/Linux world, and eventually are replaced by freer standards.
As much as I want to, the IT bosses won't let me bring in OSX at work because they can't see the code. If they can't see the code, they can't prove there's no backdoors in it to their bosses. From that standpoint, Aqua's no better than having WindowsXP on our servers. And we're not going to buy new expensive hardware just to run Darwin with no GUI. OSX without Aqua sucks. I've tried it. Darwin sans Aqua is like a crippled FreeBSD with far less apps. What I learned is that "The Apple Experience *IS* Aqua". Which is why Apple will NEVER open their Aqua code. So they're out for our company. Nothing I can do.
I just hope the Linux guys really buff up the X-Windowing System to an Aqua-like sheen, polish, consistency, and ease of use. And STOP THE DUPLICATION OF EFFORT, GUYS!!!
From the Ambrosia Software discussion from the beginning of the year, I saved a copy of the post on Ambrosia's site by "Mattman" (about two-thirds of the way down the page) because he suggests exactly this - giving away the source code after a certain period of time or a fixed revenue point. I thought it a nice balance between proprietary and open.
Well worth a read, IMHO.
Slightly offtopic, my favorite quote is this one:
Western society is BASED on private ownership of products and property - which makes Microsoft, with their foul licensing schemes, VERY anti-American, despite what they say about Linux. With Microsoft, you never really own or have any control over what you've paid for.
This is a common request, so I'll reveal the terrifying answer once and for all:
THE ORIGIN OF HOT GRITS
BlackBolt: "Can someone explain the "hot grits" thing?" Let me tell you why you're asking that. You're asking because you know something. What you know you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is but it's there, like a splinter in your mind driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
AC: Hot Grits?
BlackBolt: Do you want to know what they are? Hot Grits are everywhere. They are all around us, even now in this very room. You can see them when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel them when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. They are they when a Natalie Portman Quicktime link is posted on the Front Page of Slashdot and the entire Internet quakes in fear. They are the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
AC: What truth?
BlackBolt: That you are a slave, AC. Like everyone else (except RMS, of course) you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.... Slashdot.
Unfortunately, no one can be told what Hot Grits are. You have to see them for yourself. This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You eat the blue grits, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You eat the red grits, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more... Follow me...
[Later]
BlackBolt: Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. A lapful of delicious Hot Grits generate more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTUs of maple flavor. Combined with a form of fusion, Cowboy Neal has found all the energy Slashdot would ever need to Slashdot entire networks. There are fields, endless fields, where hot grits are no longer born. They are grown. For the longest time I wouldn't believe it, and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. I watched Taco liquefy the dead grits so they could be fed intravenously to the living. And standing there, facing the pure horrifying precision, I came to realize the obviousness of the truth.
What are Hot Grits? Control.
Slashdot is a computer generated dream world, powered by Hot Grits, built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into the lowest of lifeforms, a trolling Anonymous Coward.
AC: No. I don't believe it. It's not possible.
BlackBolt: I didn't say it would be easy, AC. I just said it would be the truth.
AC: No. Stop. Let me out. Let me out. I want out.
BlackBolt: Then you must go see the sexy Oracle, Natalie Portman, and dump hot grits in her lap. And if she gives you a cookie, for god's sake, DON'T EAT IT!
I just can't get into the swing of the whole "Ellen Feiss" thing. I've invested WAAAY too much time, money, and effort into the "Natalie Portman/Hot Grits" movement to switch now.
I am not a typical desktop user. I need Acid Pro and Adobe Premiere from Windows.
Hey,
You should write the guys at AcidPlanet and request a Linux or Mac version of Acid. I already have, but I may be the only one. I don't know.
What we need in the open-source world more than ANYTHING is a site linked off Slashdot which organizes our grassroots letter-writing efforts, so that we can have 50,000 Debian users "Slashdot" our favorite app vendors with requests for linux versions of their software. If there are enough requests, the code houses WILL come around. These "name" apps draw newbies like flies. The people I talk to often won't even consider using alternatives. We need to get organized and throw our numbers around, and I know from reading Slashdot that the Linux guys can argue their point very well indeed. We just need focus and direction.
Unless we get this, ALL linux distros will die for lack of mainstream productivity apps. And it's hurting Apple too, though you likely won't hear it admitted. It seems everyone I know has one app that they can't migrate without having and for which there's no suitable substitute; be it Acid Pro, my dads Metastock stock market program, or my friend's Counterstrike, there's always something. And the more "name brand" apps we have, the easier and more enticing for people to switch.
BlackBolt
P.S. My manager has Lindows 2 running at home, and except that he had to buy a new modem, and that the kid's cereal box games won't run on it, they love it - especially Tux Racer!
They'd never be able to use Linux without something like click-and-run. Even apt-get boggled him when I explained it.
I agree. Microsoft often ships their Mac versions with far less features. I mean, Microsoft is known for having lots of features in their products, but they seem unable or unwilling to share all of these features with Mac users. I guess the best features are Windows only.:-(
I did manage to format my Virtual PC drive after some work, but I still feel like a second-class citizen. Bah. People always say there are more fun games on Windows, and it's true - I haven't had a chance to reformat once, and that Virex thing is a waste of money. On Windows, my antivirus was like a Tamagotchi, always pestering me and needing to be taken care of. With a Mac, it just sits there like it's in a coma.
I used to love my weekly Win98 formats. I got so darn good at them.
If Apple includes DRM, they lose sales (especially the 'Alpha Geek' crowd who are flocking to Macs for OSX, and more importantly, *me*). If they don't include it, moronic sites like this try to block Macs as a whiny political protest against Apple's free will.
If the customer has to go against his ethical code to own some movie he could just buy at the corner store anyway, is it really worth it? I've always bought all my media stuff in 'real' versions, and I'll keep doing that. Downloading movies ain't really practical on a 33.6 faxmodem... And watching them on a computer screen, even the superfine TiBook LCD, just can't beat my Sony bigscreen, and pisses off the missus to no end.
This is merely another example of Windows-based coders ignoring the rest of the world, just with a politically-correct excuse this time. I'm still waiting for Counterstrike on the Mac, btw. Not gonna happen? Fine. I don't plonk, I boycott. Me and my friends present our 'boycott list' to each other every week and then try to kill sales. Good fun, and plotting goes great with chicken wings and beer.
And when Movielink fails in 6 months, as it probably will, the studios will inevitably find a scapegoat besides their own stubborn stupidity. Probably piracy, hackers, or muslim terrorists, despite the fact that they've been refusing customers and have a bad dotcom-like business plan. Stupid.
And this article tries very hard to make the Macs' nearly complete lack of DRM sound like *A Very Bad Thing*. AS IF. Nice spin, Big Brother. Freedom is Slavery. Good is evil, evil is good. Trust Big Brother.
Open source code is just as important as giving away >1% of your net worth to help India with their AIDS problem. Open source leads to freedom, communication, knowledge, and a better world for everybody. MOST countries can't afford Windows. MOST people in the world can't afford Windows. Open source equalizes the rich and the poor. Some scientist running DNA tests on linux in India will be the guy who cures AIDS totally, not just throwing a bandaid on it like Bill Gates is doing. Why isn't Bill funding massive research if he cares so much? Oh, because unless he hits a cure, HE DOESN'T GET ANY RECOGNITION!
Knowledge is more important than charity. With knowledge, you don't NEED charity.
If you don't see any possible connection between Gates throwing his money around and possible sales of Windows, you're blind. If he actually cared about helping people more than getting his name in lights and improving his negative public image, he'd give his hundred million to a professional AIDS organization, for them to distribute where it can do the most good, anonymously. Instead, he "coincidentally" shows up in places PERSONALLY where the government is leaning towards open source, shaking hands, kissing babies, and handing out millions like chiclets at a Halitosis Sufferers Convention.
Still don't get it? How about this one then. You get in a big car accident and a nice vacuum salesman saves your life. Coincidentally, you need a vacuum. How can you POSSIBLY tell me with a straight face that you won't give "your savior" some extra consideration? Bullsh*t. You'll buy 2 vacuums, and top of the line, to boot. Bill Gates is very experienced at buying what he wants. Right now, he's buying 10% of the world's developers and locking them into a proprietary, expensive format.
Get into the real world. Money talks, whether you want it to or not.
Where did he get the space station? He hid it in a LINE ITEM on a research budjet! He had a multi-billion dollar space station hidden as a line item?!?! You can't tell me that's not a superpower.
Okay, wait a second... By your logic, if fraudulent accounting equals superpowers, then Arthur Andersen is the Fantastic Four and my uncle Vito is Captain America.
Cuz I'd just taste like coffee and hamburgers and pizz-- oh, wait, that's a good thing, isn't it... what I mean is, all I eat is raw sewage and black candlesticks. If you're going to cannibalize someone, please choose the Cowboy Neal option, like everybody else. I mean, he gets Christmas Cards from Pizza Hut, for chrissakes.
WAIT A MINUTE!!! I just googled T'Pol. I'm definitely your man, forget what I said before. In the Klingon dictionary, beside "delicacy best served alive", it's got my picture. Ohhh, yeahhhh. Me me me me me me me. All me.
Ahhh, if only life were as good as these Slashdot postings, eh?
BlackBolt
Re:Not sure about cooking up a Python, but...
on
The Python Cookbook
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· Score: 2, Funny
The best part of the recipe is of course
2 1/2 pounds rattle snake, dead
Dead? I was planning on having 2 1/2 pounds of LIVE rattlesnake roaming around my kitchen. Of course, if the snakes were still alive, I don't think they could honestly give this recipe a
So the problem is that third-party theming makes the system unstable, presumably because of an improper implementation, and yet the solution is not to have Apple add this functionality themselves? This is a logical solution to the problem, but (*gasp*) one which challenges the restrictive will of mighty Apple.
They must not want to give the user UI flexibility. If they did, they could do so without making OSX unstable. Logical. So why the troll mod? Oh, yeah, I'm not eating what I'm fed. Bad boy. Don't think for yourself. Don't question. Right, my bad.
Unpopular speech gets modded down. As usual, the mods are on crack. Good work, morons.
Apple should put good theming capabilities into OSX themselves, to ensure it all works properly. The answer is not to reduce user functionality, but to make sure it is done right.
You just proved my point. Thank you. By the way, you've been a very busy little AC, defending Apple against the ravages of free speech. I guess you don't think their products are good enough to stand on their own merits without an unpaid task force of impotent little symps "defending their honor". The great majority of the posts here are AC's, and from your sad little attitude, you ignorant puke, I can guess that you're a major contributor to the lousy signal:noise ratio in here.
I'm not a troll, "ANONYMOUS COWARD". *You* are. I'm just engaged in free speech and lively debate. If you're afraid of debate, you're afraid of the truth. I guess this means I'm a better Apple fan than you are. I feel good about that. Thanks.
Ah, a "Petition with Teeth"! Cool! This could be the next evolutionary step of petitioning and civil disobedience.
I did notice one minor flaw however...
We, the 500,000 undersigned, hereby declare that, in protest of the draconian DMCA, we are going to "Slashdot" Jimmy T. Godkin Jr. of Boulder, Colorado, who was foolish enough to host "Debbie Does Dallas" on KaZaa in high-quality Quicktime.
Please see
a previous post to see that you're not the only one to notice this bizarre and irresponsible trend. Watch the lack of response when someone here bashes XP or Linux, then watch the rabid flames if you so much as question the motives of Apple in invoking the DMCA, or "borrowing" Watson, or killing themes, and you'll see that there's a real unfair bias surrounding God's Chosen Platform here on Slashdot. For people who "think different" (and I'm one of them), Mac Zealots sure do like to toe the party line. Hard to have honest debate on how to improve Apple when Apple is "better than perfect" to these guys.
Well, I am not a Mac Fanboy of the older days. I will not say that a Mac is faster, because I know it is not true. My G3 definately cannot beat my desktop system in speed. I base this on the general feel and on the calculation speed of Seti@Home packets (Cannot state the average numbers, but it's about 10hours difference in favour of the P-III). I know it is a bad benchmark, but it is the only one I could make. Don't worry, the G3 is plenty of fast for me.
You know, CT, I always thought that certain Slashdot trolls were the most honest and openminded posters around (goatse and friends notwithstanding)....
Apple engineering did pretty nicely when they incorporated the antennna in the whole product line, desktops included. It's hard to fault this good technical design advantage.
TiBook reception is a little lacking, I hear it's due to the Titanium alloy casing...
Slashdot Mirror
...but I'm waiting for a monkey with five asses.
BlackBolt
You work for dumbasses.
No, I work for a private bank based somewhere "not in America".
You can see all of the OS code of OS X. The only think hidden is the UI. Only a complete ignoramous would worry about "back doors" in a desktop UI.
*YOU* work for dumbasses, because only dumbasses would hire you. If you don't think a backdoor can be put in a GUI, you've never coded. Eat me. You think Apple Updater is a part of the kernel? Do you think Mozilla is part of the kernel? It seems to connect to the internet just fine. Same with the spyware you obviously have on your system, thinking you're immune like that.
As for proving it to their bosses, show them the OS code, and how would those bosses know they are not looking at the Aqua code, as well?
That's it, AC, lie to your bosses. What are you, 10? Moron.
This is exactly why I have all but given up on taking most Linux users seriously. It seems like the Linux world is now dominated by people who
[whiny crap snipped]
OH, shut up. You're an idiot. What a clueless flamebait. The point of free software is that it's distributed. The work is spread out. Many hands make light work, and many eyes make all bugs shallow. I contribute, but not to the GUI. What do you do? Oh, that's right. You're an Anonymous gutless Slashdot troll. Roll over and die, puke.
HTH. HAND.
BlackBolt
Okay, chop me to pieces, I'm ready.
BlackBolt
And Aqua's closed. Closed "standards" generally find it hard to gain full acceptance in the Unix/Linux world, and eventually are replaced by freer standards.
As much as I want to, the IT bosses won't let me bring in OSX at work because they can't see the code. If they can't see the code, they can't prove there's no backdoors in it to their bosses. From that standpoint, Aqua's no better than having WindowsXP on our servers. And we're not going to buy new expensive hardware just to run Darwin with no GUI. OSX without Aqua sucks. I've tried it. Darwin sans Aqua is like a crippled FreeBSD with far less apps. What I learned is that "The Apple Experience *IS* Aqua". Which is why Apple will NEVER open their Aqua code. So they're out for our company. Nothing I can do.
I just hope the Linux guys really buff up the X-Windowing System to an Aqua-like sheen, polish, consistency, and ease of use. And STOP THE DUPLICATION OF EFFORT, GUYS!!!
BlackBolt
Well worth a read, IMHO.
Slightly offtopic, my favorite quote is this one:
Sweeeeet.BlackBolt
This is a common request, so I'll reveal the terrifying answer once and for all:
BlackBolt
I just can't get into the swing of the whole "Ellen Feiss" thing. I've invested WAAAY too much time, money, and effort into the "Natalie Portman/Hot Grits" movement to switch now.
Natalie Portman Forever!!! (*waves pennant feebly*)
BlackBolt
Strange, I have the opposite problem. Despite never leaving my computer room, my life currently fills 678 DVDs.
Disk 1: Pamela Anderson
Disk 2: Jenna Jameson
Disk 3....
BlackBolt
Hey,
You should write the guys at AcidPlanet and request a Linux or Mac version of Acid. I already have, but I may be the only one. I don't know.
What we need in the open-source world more than ANYTHING is a site linked off Slashdot which organizes our grassroots letter-writing efforts, so that we can have 50,000 Debian users "Slashdot" our favorite app vendors with requests for linux versions of their software. If there are enough requests, the code houses WILL come around. These "name" apps draw newbies like flies. The people I talk to often won't even consider using alternatives. We need to get organized and throw our numbers around, and I know from reading Slashdot that the Linux guys can argue their point very well indeed. We just need focus and direction.
Unless we get this, ALL linux distros will die for lack of mainstream productivity apps. And it's hurting Apple too, though you likely won't hear it admitted. It seems everyone I know has one app that they can't migrate without having and for which there's no suitable substitute; be it Acid Pro, my dads Metastock stock market program, or my friend's Counterstrike, there's always something. And the more "name brand" apps we have, the easier and more enticing for people to switch.
BlackBolt
P.S. My manager has Lindows 2 running at home, and except that he had to buy a new modem, and that the kid's cereal box games won't run on it, they love it - especially Tux Racer!
They'd never be able to use Linux without something like click-and-run. Even apt-get boggled him when I explained it.
I agree. Microsoft often ships their Mac versions with far less features. I mean, Microsoft is known for having lots of features in their products, but they seem unable or unwilling to share all of these features with Mac users. I guess the best features are Windows only. :-(
I did manage to format my Virtual PC drive after some work, but I still feel like a second-class citizen. Bah. People always say there are more fun games on Windows, and it's true - I haven't had a chance to reformat once, and that Virex thing is a waste of money. On Windows, my antivirus was like a Tamagotchi, always pestering me and needing to be taken care of. With a Mac, it just sits there like it's in a coma.
I used to love my weekly Win98 formats. I got so darn good at them.
BlackBolt
If Apple includes DRM, they lose sales (especially the 'Alpha Geek' crowd who are flocking to Macs for OSX, and more importantly, *me*). If they don't include it, moronic sites like this try to block Macs as a whiny political protest against Apple's free will.
If the customer has to go against his ethical code to own some movie he could just buy at the corner store anyway, is it really worth it? I've always bought all my media stuff in 'real' versions, and I'll keep doing that. Downloading movies ain't really practical on a 33.6 faxmodem... And watching them on a computer screen, even the superfine TiBook LCD, just can't beat my Sony bigscreen, and pisses off the missus to no end.
This is merely another example of Windows-based coders ignoring the rest of the world, just with a politically-correct excuse this time. I'm still waiting for Counterstrike on the Mac, btw. Not gonna happen? Fine. I don't plonk, I boycott. Me and my friends present our 'boycott list' to each other every week and then try to kill sales. Good fun, and plotting goes great with chicken wings and beer.
And when Movielink fails in 6 months, as it probably will, the studios will inevitably find a scapegoat besides their own stubborn stupidity. Probably piracy, hackers, or muslim terrorists, despite the fact that they've been refusing customers and have a bad dotcom-like business plan. Stupid.
And this article tries very hard to make the Macs' nearly complete lack of DRM sound like *A Very Bad Thing*. AS IF. Nice spin, Big Brother. Freedom is Slavery. Good is evil, evil is good. Trust Big Brother.
BlackBolt
Shame on *you* for astroturfing, bub.
Open source code is just as important as giving away >1% of your net worth to help India with their AIDS problem. Open source leads to freedom, communication, knowledge, and a better world for everybody. MOST countries can't afford Windows. MOST people in the world can't afford Windows. Open source equalizes the rich and the poor. Some scientist running DNA tests on linux in India will be the guy who cures AIDS totally, not just throwing a bandaid on it like Bill Gates is doing. Why isn't Bill funding massive research if he cares so much? Oh, because unless he hits a cure, HE DOESN'T GET ANY RECOGNITION!
Knowledge is more important than charity. With knowledge, you don't NEED charity.
If you don't see any possible connection between Gates throwing his money around and possible sales of Windows, you're blind. If he actually cared about helping people more than getting his name in lights and improving his negative public image, he'd give his hundred million to a professional AIDS organization, for them to distribute where it can do the most good, anonymously. Instead, he "coincidentally" shows up in places PERSONALLY where the government is leaning towards open source, shaking hands, kissing babies, and handing out millions like chiclets at a Halitosis Sufferers Convention.
Still don't get it? How about this one then. You get in a big car accident and a nice vacuum salesman saves your life. Coincidentally, you need a vacuum. How can you POSSIBLY tell me with a straight face that you won't give "your savior" some extra consideration? Bullsh*t. You'll buy 2 vacuums, and top of the line, to boot. Bill Gates is very experienced at buying what he wants. Right now, he's buying 10% of the world's developers and locking them into a proprietary, expensive format.
Get into the real world. Money talks, whether you want it to or not.
BlackBolt
Okay, wait a second... By your logic, if fraudulent accounting equals superpowers, then Arthur Andersen is the Fantastic Four and my uncle Vito is Captain America.
BlackBolt
That is a *REALLY* good page. Just bookmarked it and emailed links to friends.
Excellent work. Excellent.
BlackBolt
Who, me or the rattler?
Cuz I'd just taste like coffee and hamburgers and pizz-- oh, wait, that's a good thing, isn't it... what I mean is, all I eat is raw sewage and black candlesticks. If you're going to cannibalize someone, please choose the Cowboy Neal option, like everybody else. I mean, he gets Christmas Cards from Pizza Hut, for chrissakes.
WAIT A MINUTE!!! I just googled T'Pol. I'm definitely your man, forget what I said before. In the Klingon dictionary, beside "delicacy best served alive", it's got my picture. Ohhh, yeahhhh. Me me me me me me me. All me.
Ahhh, if only life were as good as these Slashdot postings, eh?
BlackBolt
BlackBolt
So the problem is that third-party theming makes the system unstable, presumably because of an improper implementation, and yet the solution is not to have Apple add this functionality themselves? This is a logical solution to the problem, but (*gasp*) one which challenges the restrictive will of mighty Apple.
They must not want to give the user UI flexibility. If they did, they could do so without making OSX unstable. Logical. So why the troll mod? Oh, yeah, I'm not eating what I'm fed. Bad boy. Don't think for yourself. Don't question. Right, my bad.
Unpopular speech gets modded down. As usual, the mods are on crack. Good work, morons.
Viva la Slashdot.
BlackBolt
BlackBolt
I'm not a troll, "ANONYMOUS COWARD". *You* are. I'm just engaged in free speech and lively debate. If you're afraid of debate, you're afraid of the truth. I guess this means I'm a better Apple fan than you are. I feel good about that. Thanks.
HTH. HAND.
BlackBolt
I did notice one minor flaw however...
BlackBolt
BlackBolt
BlackBolt
You know, CT, I always thought that certain Slashdot trolls were the most honest and openminded posters around (goatse and friends notwithstanding)....
BlackBolt
TiBook reception is a little lacking, I hear it's due to the Titanium alloy casing...
BlackBolt