Look at the music industry, do you really think Britney Spears would have done so well if she had dressed respectfully?
Seriously, I don't know a guy that likes Britney Spears music. Sure, they would like to sleep with her, but they are not the ones who buy her albums. She must be selling posters to these guys, but still. She's mainly supported by women, or teenage girls.
I not sure the fact that she dresses like a whore has anything to do with her being rich. Success, yes, but money, no.
Télévision Radio-Canada, the french equivalent of CBC TV, has been putting a TV show called Enjeux, a social issues TV show, online for the last 4 years. It's a really good show. Too bad the recent budget cuts by our government in state-financed television is going to cut the number of episodes from 22 to 8 next year. For the non french impaired, click here. It has most of the episodes online.
Lifted from the article: I'd say what we will do is pick a set of titles and do all the technical work to get those to work. The truth is when you do some of those titles, you do get dozens to hundreds of other titles because you take any game that pushes the system and exercises it. If you can make backward compatibility happen for it, you'd handle any game that has a subset of what it does.
That screams emulation to me. Make sure X game that pushes the system really hard works. If it works, you might have other games working. So he is not spelling out EMULATION, but that's exactly how a developper would go about writing an emulator. Pick a target, write for it, and see what happens with other apps. If he meant recompiling each applications and rewriting part of the code, then there would not be any crossover. You'd have to rewrite code for everygame.
Yeah, I didn't express myself correctly, but the truth is, in all the xbox executive interviews I've read, they said they would have compatibility with SELECTED games. People who aren't interrested enough into the 360 to read the articles are just jumping the gun here. The headline for the slashdot articles are just sensationalist and not reflecting what has been said in conference and interviews.
Sorry, but I'm surprised none of the people here who got 3+ for their comments have read this article.
They clearly say they are going to EMULATE the top titles. Now, they say that if they manage to emulate Halo2, there's good chance that games that use a subset of funcionality will also work. Hence, they target a few games, and they get collateral compatibility from these high-end titles.
You do realize that chess is several centuries old and still hasn't seen an expansion pack or a new version of it? So why people keep on playing chess? How about because it's a fun game? Same can be told about FPSes, 3rd person shooters, sports games, etc. These are not as deep as chess, obviously, but they're still fun.
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(I like my G5 too much. Even tough you own 3 consoles, you're obviously not a real gamer if you own a mac.;)
A fact of life when the bottlenecks move to memory/art/game-logic
Off topic, but I find it interresting that you say that when memory becomes the bottleneck, people stop using assembly. At work, I'm one of the people who is writing assembly code exactly because of memory bottlenecks. If you know you will be waiting for stuff to come from the memory, you might as well massage the information as much as possible while waiting for the next chuck to get here. Reading aligned memory, writing multiples copies of the code using mutually exclusive sets of registers and doing instruction interleaving is a great memory bottleneck trick you can pull to reduce as much CPU idleness as possible, thus giving higher performance.
There's nothing worse in a high-performance system (or game in this case) than having the CPU stand idle while it could do some usefull work on the data it is waiting for. For example, on X86 CPUs, you could always do your work in C++ or C, but you're never sure your loops will be optimized with vector operations and aligned read/write until you take the time to write the code yourself and tune the code as much as possible. The Intel compiler is getting better and better at this tough, but it hasn't reached human efficiency yet.
Instead of emulating everything, I bet high-profile games and games that are in the platinum selection will simply be ported over to the new architecture. I mean, unless the game used a lot of assembly, the code should pretty much compile from one platform to the other, except for the shader code. So the only thing you have to do is put the old Xbox game in, the 360 reads the DVD header, realizes it's Forza, downloads a game update for it that replaces the executable. Now, when the 360 detects that game, is boots the 360 executable version from the HD or memory card instead of the version from the DVD. After all, all the content can be reused. Only the actual executable and dynamic libraries need to be ported.
Well, the DS can put itself in listening mode (no game required, just from the main menu of the DS os) and wait for data to come, and then execute it. Someone could write a bootloader than uses te Wifi connection to load the initial kernels bits, then have an implementation of fopen that actually opens a network connection. I know NFS is not there yet, but there's no reason why a stripped down barebone wifi implementation could be used in that fopen. It would be hard, but it's not unconcievable.
Yeah, but doesn't the kernel expect the kernel modules and everything else concerning itself to be local? I'm talking a truly network based os, where everything from the bootloader to the kernel and the applications are streamed and cached in ram. Use a cache with proxy's that remove files from memory when they are not used and when they are again are brought back to memory.
Is a VNC client or X11 client for the machine. This way, I could be somewhere else in my house, and check my emails from my DS, instead of going to my computer. Or I could check something on the web from the couch in living room.
Or modify the kernel so that an attempt to read any file actually streams it from the network to your DS for execution or editing.
... is that maybe, just maybe, since they are able to replace a critical file and feature at run-time without rebooting means that Longhorn will finally be able to replace a file even while it's in use, like Linux does.
That would actually be really neat. Wasn't Longhorn going to break some more compatibility will older apps in order to have tighter security. Maybe that's a restriction that will be gone.
The problem is, with putting the ad in the downloaded file, there is no metrics on how many times the ad has been viewed. So the advertisers don't know if their campaign reached the number of people they hoped to. It's not cost effective to them. Unless you put some sort of usage reporting in the file format. And we all know how the majority of people over here would feel about that.
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Look at the music industry, do you really think Britney Spears would have done so well if she had dressed respectfully?
Seriously, I don't know a guy that likes Britney Spears music. Sure, they would like to sleep with her, but they are not the ones who buy her albums. She must be selling posters to these guys, but still. She's mainly supported by women, or teenage girls.
I not sure the fact that she dresses like a whore has anything to do with her being rich. Success, yes, but money, no.
You don't get it. Carnivore doesn't exists, so it's a non-issue. *wink wink*
Hell called : it froze.
Télévision Radio-Canada, the french equivalent of CBC TV, has been putting a TV show called Enjeux, a social issues TV show, online for the last 4 years. It's a really good show. Too bad the recent budget cuts by our government in state-financed television is going to cut the number of episodes from 22 to 8 next year. For the non french impaired, click here. It has most of the episodes online.
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I'd say what we will do is pick a set of titles and do all the technical work to get those to work. The truth is when you do some of those titles, you do get dozens to hundreds of other titles because you take any game that pushes the system and exercises it. If you can make backward compatibility happen for it, you'd handle any game that has a subset of what it does.
That screams emulation to me. Make sure X game that pushes the system really hard works. If it works, you might have other games working. So he is not spelling out EMULATION, but that's exactly how a developper would go about writing an emulator. Pick a target, write for it, and see what happens with other apps. If he meant recompiling each applications and rewriting part of the code, then there would not be any crossover. You'd have to rewrite code for everygame.
Yeah, I didn't express myself correctly, but the truth is, in all the xbox executive interviews I've read, they said they would have compatibility with SELECTED games. People who aren't interrested enough into the 360 to read the articles are just jumping the gun here. The headline for the slashdot articles are just sensationalist and not reflecting what has been said in conference and interviews.
Sorry, but I'm surprised none of the people here who got 3+ for their comments have read this article.
They clearly say they are going to EMULATE the top titles. Now, they say that if they manage to emulate Halo2, there's good chance that games that use a subset of funcionality will also work. Hence, they target a few games, and they get collateral compatibility from these high-end titles.
YES TO MORE SHINY BITS
I think you meant the T word, bot bits.
Watch his other movies. He is a good actor. I recommend "Life as a House". Terrific movie.
I think his bad performance (and subpar performance from Portman, McGreggor and Neeson) is more due to Lucas who isn't an incredible director.
You do realize that chess is several centuries old and still hasn't seen an expansion pack or a new version of it? So why people keep on playing chess? How about because it's a fun game? Same can be told about FPSes, 3rd person shooters, sports games, etc. These are not as deep as chess, obviously, but they're still fun.
(I like my G5 too much. ;)
Even tough you own 3 consoles, you're obviously not a real gamer if you own a mac.
A fact of life when the bottlenecks move to memory/art/game-logic
Off topic, but I find it interresting that you say that when memory becomes the bottleneck, people stop using assembly. At work, I'm one of the people who is writing assembly code exactly because of memory bottlenecks. If you know you will be waiting for stuff to come from the memory, you might as well massage the information as much as possible while waiting for the next chuck to get here. Reading aligned memory, writing multiples copies of the code using mutually exclusive sets of registers and doing instruction interleaving is a great memory bottleneck trick you can pull to reduce as much CPU idleness as possible, thus giving higher performance.
There's nothing worse in a high-performance system (or game in this case) than having the CPU stand idle while it could do some usefull work on the data it is waiting for. For example, on X86 CPUs, you could always do your work in C++ or C, but you're never sure your loops will be optimized with vector operations and aligned read/write until you take the time to write the code yourself and tune the code as much as possible. The Intel compiler is getting better and better at this tough, but it hasn't reached human efficiency yet.
Instead of emulating everything, I bet high-profile games and games that are in the platinum selection will simply be ported over to the new architecture. I mean, unless the game used a lot of assembly, the code should pretty much compile from one platform to the other, except for the shader code. So the only thing you have to do is put the old Xbox game in, the 360 reads the DVD header, realizes it's Forza, downloads a game update for it that replaces the executable. Now, when the 360 detects that game, is boots the 360 executable version from the HD or memory card instead of the version from the DVD. After all, all the content can be reused. Only the actual executable and dynamic libraries need to be ported.
Or, "Where is my ex so I can stalk her?"
I'm waiting for the DVD format that can hold a library of congress.
Well, the DS can put itself in listening mode (no game required, just from the main menu of the DS os) and wait for data to come, and then execute it. Someone could write a bootloader than uses te Wifi connection to load the initial kernels bits, then have an implementation of fopen that actually opens a network connection. I know NFS is not there yet, but there's no reason why a stripped down barebone wifi implementation could be used in that fopen. It would be hard, but it's not unconcievable.
Yeah, but doesn't the kernel expect the kernel modules and everything else concerning itself to be local? I'm talking a truly network based os, where everything from the bootloader to the kernel and the applications are streamed and cached in ram. Use a cache with proxy's that remove files from memory when they are not used and when they are again are brought back to memory.
Is a VNC client or X11 client for the machine. This way, I could be somewhere else in my house, and check my emails from my DS, instead of going to my computer. Or I could check something on the web from the couch in living room.
Or modify the kernel so that an attempt to read any file actually streams it from the network to your DS for execution or editing.
and think they should have "Best Movie based on a Video Game" instead of the other way around.
But do we really want to give an award to Alone in the dark or Alien vs. Predator (which was a comic by DC at first anyway)?
... is that maybe, just maybe, since they are able to replace a critical file and feature at run-time without rebooting means that Longhorn will finally be able to replace a file even while it's in use, like Linux does.
That would actually be really neat. Wasn't Longhorn going to break some more compatibility will older apps in order to have tighter security. Maybe that's a restriction that will be gone.
ahead of schedule.
So they will actually release it? I thought they'd never do it.
The problem is, with putting the ad in the downloaded file, there is no metrics on how many times the ad has been viewed. So the advertisers don't know if their campaign reached the number of people they hoped to. It's not cost effective to them. Unless you put some sort of usage reporting in the file format. And we all know how the majority of people over here would feel about that.
Think about it, what do you think is more costly? Making a user download it every time? Or missing an opportunity to display an ad?
And they also own their own iTunes like store, Archambaultzik.
God I hate Quebecor.
There's no word yet on how they arrived at this conclusion
It's simple, two words : Wishful thinking.