XP Pro doesn't include IIS either, it include personal web server, but it's useless for anything but local development. I did forget that feature though, so you deserve the informative.
Please tell me you're not hosting on XP Pro though.
Well, I can't say I've been succesful yet, but I'm in the process of trying to get the charity I work for to use *nix on their new web server, instead of shelling out for another 2k license, and seem to be getting somewhere (but of course we are in an enviroment where the entire IT department uses Linux at home, and only puts up with 2k at work because we have to)
And I thought the ebay lady was a little weird... the juniper one looks like she knows where I live, and she's gonna come round and hack me to death when I least expect it.
How about under the sofa, or that stack of AOL cds in the corner?
Please, if you find him, let us know so that we can all stop turning our houses upside down trying to find your dog... and if you could tell us his name, that would help, so that we can call it in a high pitched voice.
I think what the parent was saying, is that an agent could switch to his "internet" machine, do some work, go out for a coffee, come back, and forget he was on the "internet" machine, instead of the "confidential" machine, and work on that instead.
I've done stupider things with nothing but an SSH terminal (although obviously not with classified information)
I've thought a lot about this, but as sub-standard as the current way of doing things is, I can't really think of another that would work to any degree.
Especially now that everyone is used to the Windows/KDE/Gnome/Mac OS/Everything else way of doing things... there's a lot to be said for familiarity, that's why all the interfaces you see are so similar.
Well... it appears to be possible to save your configuration settings, but when I tried to load them on another machine, it stubonly refused to change anything... I'm sure given some time it's possible to wrangle it round, but I needed a batch ready for the next day, and didn't really have time when I knew I could just configure the menus etc. by hand quickly.
I like the idea of software that exports file level metadata to FS level metadata... I do see a lot of potential in metadata at the FS level... say I want to find all documents (images, word documents, and presentations say) about the topic "Sales, North" on my companies server... at the moment it's not an easy prospect, but with FS level metadata, it can just flick through the metadatabase, and find anything with that keyword.
Bad luck... you got flamebait for insulting the holy editors.
I happen to agree with you... I used to think that Ask/. was one of the better parts of the site, since unlike the rest, it had things that can be applied to real life... as it is now, I rarely see anything that takes my interest.
These people have learned how to do their specific tasks and if anything changes, they just kind of freak out.
Ahhh! We have them as well...... sometimes, seemingly in a fit of manic humour, they get called "IT Trainers". Most of the time I prefer the phrase "Waste of money" though. (Not of course that I'm bitter at the fact the people who are meant to be doing the training spend as much time being shown how to do basic things like comprehend the "A file with this name already exists, do you want to overwrite it?" dialog.
Well, here goes your review (not an extensive one, but it'll do)...
We're using it to train people in basic computer usage and word processing, and to display a powerpoint XP presentation for the course, because we don't have the funds to buy new Office licenses for the latest batch of laptops we got for off-site courses.
MS Office "likeness" can be easily implemented by customising the toolbars (~1 hour to get it right), and is close enough that we've had few complaints from the people who (having looked terrified at the prospect of using a computer) started on OOo, and then moved to using Office XP at our main centre (where we already have licenses).
Speed wise, it's a little sluggish starting up on the salvaged P233/64mb laptops we use, but once it's started (15-30 seconds), there's no noticeable speed difference.
As ever there's the odd niggle, clipart works differently to MS Office (it would be nice to have a compatibility mode... I prefer the OOo way of using folders. Clients disagree, and prefer clear categories, and search function), and a few of the keys need re-mapping to work the same as the MS offerings, but overall, it's been a very successful trial, and saved us a couple of thousand in new Office licenses (even at charitable rates).
Are you sure you're in fact not assigned to an ape training facility?
The people I'm referring to here vary from the technically proficent, to never having touched a mouse in their life (since we're an IT training centre), and they all seem to comprehend the idea that it doesn't matter which computer they sit at.
I dunno, maybe it's that very inexperience that does it... they don't see any reason why they *shouldn't* be able to use any computer.
Granted, you could do this now just by logging in normally, but the non-computer types of a company aren't going to get it.
They need something they can walk up to and just use - they won't bother with anything more.
Why won't they get it? You just say to them "you can use your username and password to login at any computer, and use it like the one in your office".
We have people here who've never touched a networked computer in their life before, and they can comprehend the idea of "whichever computer you're sat at, you're files will be at as well".
I understand that, I guess I was just short on coffee, and trying to make a point.
I know some of the things I listed as the same are different in some quite substantial ways, but some of them are un-nervingly similar, and are kinda like comparing IE, to all the other browsers for Windows that use the IE engine, and add some minor features.
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You have the time and energy to waste on hating someone for the browser they use?
You have far too much free time.
And anger management problems.
And I now award you the price for funniest troll bait today.
Congratulations, you've won a free shotgun, with which to shoot each and every active member of the GNAA.
XP Pro doesn't include IIS either, it include personal web server, but it's useless for anything but local development. I did forget that feature though, so you deserve the informative.
Please tell me you're not hosting on XP Pro though.
What is it with the rumours about all the thing XP Home won't do?
I prefer Linux, but I do have some XP boxes around the house as well. The only thing XP Pro does, which XP Home doesn't are:
- NT/2k domain support
- Remote support
- Multiple CPUs
Everything else works just fine.
Ohhhh... he will when the bandwidth bill arrives ;)
And anyway, don't they have logs where you work?
This discussion seems to be on whether it's legal.
I think you can drop the ??? on this one.
Wow! A profit model that works. On Slashdot.
Whatever next?
Well, I can't say I've been succesful yet, but I'm in the process of trying to get the charity I work for to use *nix on their new web server, instead of shelling out for another 2k license, and seem to be getting somewhere (but of course we are in an enviroment where the entire IT department uses Linux at home, and only puts up with 2k at work because we have to)
Thanks for that... read it just in time to hit my back button!
I'm scared.
And I thought the ebay lady was a little weird... the juniper one looks like she knows where I live, and she's gonna come round and hack me to death when I least expect it.
Did you check the sock drawer?
How about under the sofa, or that stack of AOL cds in the corner?
Please, if you find him, let us know so that we can all stop turning our houses upside down trying to find your dog... and if you could tell us his name, that would help, so that we can call it in a high pitched voice.
I don't think that at all... and I'm sure it's extremely unlikely that it would happen.
I dunno... just thinking out loud, using a comparison that I have experience with.
I think what the parent was saying, is that an agent could switch to his "internet" machine, do some work, go out for a coffee, come back, and forget he was on the "internet" machine, instead of the "confidential" machine, and work on that instead.
I've done stupider things with nothing but an SSH terminal (although obviously not with classified information)
Any suggestions?
I've thought a lot about this, but as sub-standard as the current way of doing things is, I can't really think of another that would work to any degree.
Especially now that everyone is used to the Windows/KDE/Gnome/Mac OS/Everything else way of doing things... there's a lot to be said for familiarity, that's why all the interfaces you see are so similar.
Well... it appears to be possible to save your configuration settings, but when I tried to load them on another machine, it stubonly refused to change anything... I'm sure given some time it's possible to wrangle it round, but I needed a batch ready for the next day, and didn't really have time when I knew I could just configure the menus etc. by hand quickly.
I like the idea of software that exports file level metadata to FS level metadata... I do see a lot of potential in metadata at the FS level... say I want to find all documents (images, word documents, and presentations say) about the topic "Sales, North" on my companies server... at the moment it's not an easy prospect, but with FS level metadata, it can just flick through the metadatabase, and find anything with that keyword.
Bad luck... you got flamebait for insulting the holy editors.
/. was one of the better parts of the site, since unlike the rest, it had things that can be applied to real life... as it is now, I rarely see anything that takes my interest.
I happen to agree with you... I used to think that Ask
Not of course that it stops me.
Ahhh! We have them as well...
Well, here goes your review (not an extensive one, but it'll do)...
We're using it to train people in basic computer usage and word processing, and to display a powerpoint XP presentation for the course, because we don't have the funds to buy new Office licenses for the latest batch of laptops we got for off-site courses.
MS Office "likeness" can be easily implemented by customising the toolbars (~1 hour to get it right), and is close enough that we've had few complaints from the people who (having looked terrified at the prospect of using a computer) started on OOo, and then moved to using Office XP at our main centre (where we already have licenses).
Speed wise, it's a little sluggish starting up on the salvaged P233/64mb laptops we use, but once it's started (15-30 seconds), there's no noticeable speed difference.
As ever there's the odd niggle, clipart works differently to MS Office (it would be nice to have a compatibility mode... I prefer the OOo way of using folders. Clients disagree, and prefer clear categories, and search function), and a few of the keys need re-mapping to work the same as the MS offerings, but overall, it's been a very successful trial, and saved us a couple of thousand in new Office licenses (even at charitable rates).
Are you sure you're in fact not assigned to an ape training facility?
The people I'm referring to here vary from the technically proficent, to never having touched a mouse in their life (since we're an IT training centre), and they all seem to comprehend the idea that it doesn't matter which computer they sit at.
I dunno, maybe it's that very inexperience that does it... they don't see any reason why they *shouldn't* be able to use any computer.
Why won't they get it? You just say to them "you can use your username and password to login at any computer, and use it like the one in your office".
We have people here who've never touched a networked computer in their life before, and they can comprehend the idea of "whichever computer you're sat at, you're files will be at as well".
Now that's a good idea... if only.
I can't drink coffee in here, never mind anything stronger.
Well, I'll try to, oh HWPTWIVS.
It's amazing what work will do to you.
And there I was thinking that you were gonna use it bring about world peace. Have you no thought for the rest of the world?
Just ignore me... I've drunk too much
I understand that, I guess I was just short on coffee, and trying to make a point.
I know some of the things I listed as the same are different in some quite substantial ways, but some of them are un-nervingly similar, and are kinda like comparing IE, to all the other browsers for Windows that use the IE engine, and add some minor features.