Come again? I'll give you cheaper and more energy efficient but let's not get carried away. I bet you lose the energy efficiency once you plug in an external USB hard drive too.
I guess that depends - I don't know the facts for power usage on either, but I'd venture to guess that the baseline draw (Both units equipped with 5400rpm 2.5 inch laptop drives) is much more for the Mini than it is for this. Assuming as much, I'd inevitably upgrade the drive to something like a 400G - and (assuming) the Linksys box draws less in the beginning - it's going to draw less in the end.
It is, and I've been one of the (helpful?) google bombers for a long time; This, however, doesn't mean that Apple doesn't deserve the same description. When linksys sues me, one of their customers, I might add add them to the list too.
Cheaper, more efficient, faster (Disk I/O wise), more stable, more flexible (apt-get) than the Mac Mini. Not to mention the ability to hack it when I want (The warranty is already void!). Moreover, I don't have to give the litigious bastards (Apple, of course) any of my dough!
My new media server! I can't wait to set this up in a cabinet/closet somewhere and stream video/audio from it.
We just implemented some new business process systems at my work. Management + Vendors == My life a living hell. Anyway, now that it's all setup, I've been cruising around and they offer the names, licences and follow the terms of every application they use, including:
Outback guy [on TV]: I've got to be careful. So what I'm gonna do is sneak up on him and jam my thumb in his butthole.
Stan: Holy crap, dude!
Outback guy [on TV]: If I get bit out here, I'm 200 kilometers from the nearest hospital. I better be real careful jamming my thumb in his butthole. [jumps into the water and wrestles the croc] Oh boy he's pissed of now!
Kyle: Go dude go!
Outback guy [on TV]: I'm gonna jam my thumb in his butthole now. This should really piss him off. [he jams his thumb in] [the croc makes a noise] Oh yeah that pissed him off alright!
Thunderbird displays the "Date" field for messages. It uses the Timestamp from the MUA of the sender. Don't ask me why. I often get spams from Jan, 1969 and they end up way at the bottom of all my emails. When I get the 2008 ones, they end up at the top. And when someone reinstalls Windows XP I can tell, because they always forget to set their timezone incorrectly.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's not hard to fool some people...
Could it be argued that they were looking for water in mass quantities, and they needed it soon? They had about 50,000 people that needed water. I don't disagree that water is common, and it could have been manufactured, but is harnessing some water from, say, one comet going to be enough for the 50,000 to replace their tanks of 60% they lost.
To quote TFS: "Baltar: I've calculated that the rate of consumption regarding basic foodstuffs for the civilian population, this is based on information available to me at the time. The current civilian population of 45,265 will require, at minimum, 82 tons of grain, 85 tons of meat, 119 tons of fruit, 304 tons of vegetables and... 2.5 million jps of water."
According to TFS, that's per week. Galactica lost 10million jps from the explosion. I don't think comets or even manufacturing could have cured the thirst.
P.S. I don't know what a jps is, or even if it's a real term. I assume it's fake and that it's roughly equivalent to a gallon.
Mod Parent up, most informed post on the page. This is my advice exactly - though I do want to add another scenario:
Say there is a rogue node out there and it has your internal address of 10.0.0.10 (router of.1), and it uses addresses of 192.168.0.x. You can sniff the traffic with kismet to determine what kind of traffic is passing back and forth(between the rogue wap and the rogue clients connecting to it). Once you find some outbound traffic to a good external destination, say 100.0.0.1, you can cross your firewall (10.0.0.1) logs with what traffic tried to get to 100.0.0.1 and find what address the rogue is using on your internal subnet.
Also another idea worth considering is you can, no matter what kind of security, find the MAC address of the internal connection of the WAP right? Well most WAPs have very similiar MACs between the internal and external interfaces. Assuming you have a decent cisco switch (or similiar), and you know your rogue internal's MAC is aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:02, you can go to your switch and do show mac (or is it cam? or is that just CatOS?) | inc aa:bb:cc:dd:ee and it will give you a list of all devices on which ports with mac addresses similiar to the one above (|inc is like a pipe grep). It's likely the external connections MAC is aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:01. Now you've got a starting point. Figure out which ports they are, trace the ports to their Cat 5 connections and take a look around.
Of course, it could be that your switches are not managed, and do not support that kind of stuff. But that is the *EXACT* kind of argument you should have posed for getting 'smart' switches/equp. in the first place.
Oh, we're supposed to use the comments as a source for facts? Even the ones crawling with Apple fanbois? I must be new here, maybe that has always been the case.
Although I'm pretty young and should drive fast and reckless, my A4 gets about 19-23mpg at 80MPH and about 34-38mpg at 60. I rarely drive to/from work faster than 55-60. Honestly, why would I? It doesn't feel like a race anymore once you slow down. It's kinda like that time when you forget to where your watch and never put it on again because of your newly discovered freedom. Not to mention how much longer one's car will last because you're not driving it like your insane. I see these benefits for taking my time: #1. Almost 2x the mpg. #2. Longer lasting car. #3. I don't live my life in a race. #4. I don't need to worry about speeding tickets. #5. (Probably) less accidents - my reaction time stays the same but my braking distance decreases.
Tell me why it's cool to drive (not) really fast again? People like to think they're rebels over here because they can drive over 90. Pathetic.
Oh, I even forgot to discuss the manslaughter charges when you get busted for speeds 100+. (Could be higher or lower in your state)
The communications barrier is a big deal. A lot of indians claim that they speak perfect english, which may be true, but quite a few are terrible at "speaking" it.
Some people get used to it, others don't notice a difference, but it's likely that a majority of us can't understand a damn thing.
I'm not going to say you don't know what you are talking about, but I'm pretty sure I remember at least some FCs running PCMCIA even when I had them installed on my Desktop (with no PCMCIA cards). At any rate, what I want to point out is how you seemlingly carelessly throw around the concept of "Granted they may add a second to the boot process, but big deal.". I'd like to chime in with just how bad this is. People (And os designers:)) who think like this tend to add 12 or 15 of these services on board. All of a sudden, you have 12-15+ seconds of boot time, 3mb x 15 memory usage in addition to the base, and worst of all, daemons that are likely to be susceptible to exploits of some type.
I was going to post a moderately long and well formed post about how stupid it is to black-and-white label people as either Democrat or Republican, but then I thought about how stupid someone has to be to make a statement like yours, and I realized it wouldn't do any good.
If you find some insight in this post, I recommend considering reading or listening to America: A citizens guide to democracy inaction, or any of the countless other guides on "How to form your own opinion instead of listening to the mindless drivel of the masses." If you don't, I suggest going back to your CNN/MSNBC/FOX news, and wasting your life on this regurgitated vomit the media is feeding you.
You can try to go to http://www.badflash.com/. They might have something for you. If you feel like something really cool, you can put a good bios in the mobo (one you got from badflash or a similiar mobo), boot up, pull the good bios, put the bad one back in and reflash. Sounds crazy-I know-but it's worked every time for me.
Sure, oracle does have at least a gig of stuff to install, but that's a poor excuse, imnsho. I'm talking about the responsiveness of the installer, not how long it takes to get from 1% to 99% complete. Like when you hit next and it takes 10 seconds for the box to redraw itself (running locally). Like when you close it, and it doesn't actually close until you kill -9 it. Like how when you leave it open before you go to lunch and you get back in an hour and it's eaten all of your memory. Like how long it takes for it to just start up! Sure, these are just anecdotal, but I still think someone needed to call BS to the grandparent who claimed to have never encountered a slow java app.
P.S.: You're obviously bullshitting if you say "I don't find any java app to be slow".
Either that you've never installed Oracle, or used Suns Patch management tools, or used the java solaris installer, or used eclipse...or any number of other applications...
It is great! Thanks for recognizing. Try running RHEL 2/3 or Debian Woody/Sarge sometime. In a bad month, I'll have to update 1 or 2 packages, usually ones I don't even need to be there (telnet, etc).
blame the Apple Fanboys who preach absolute security, because they're creating unfair expectations.
Wow! This is what I'm trying to do! Look at some of these things I've seen lately:
1....but is highly resistant to most attacks. 2. I count 5 exploits that are triggerable remotely... 3. That's why the thing isn't riddled with bugs... 4....has awesome security features like... 5....generally has a good set of secure, default settings... 6. For remote exploits, they have a fabulous reputation of quick patches.
the one blown totally out of proportion because successful remote code execution was extremely difficult?
I wasn't aware the vendors like Apple could blow off vulnerabilities because they were hard to exploit. The last time I checked, some people on Full disclosure spend hundreds of hours on just one exploit. The point is: you claim Apple has a "fabulous reputation" - I say they don't. They're no different than everyone else. This negates your "fabulous" claim, which is obviously overzealous.
I don't see any special "poster child treatment" as far as RH, Gentoo and Debian are concerned. Maybe you're taking this too personally - maybe I'm misinterpreting it?
Absolutists like you piss me off. OSX can't have good security.
People who claim OSX has awesome security piss me off. I don't consider myself an absolutist, but if you do, that's fine. I just like to see facts spread around rather than the same old OSX astroturfing that we're seeing so much of lately. Karma be damned!
You're limiting it to just desktop..if that's the case, I don't have much experience with running "secure" desktops - if only because I don't care.
OTOH, if you want a server, I suggest something like Debian Woody or Sarge, where patches are very infrequent - maybe once every 2 months. I might *cough* even suggest some of RH's later servers - say RHEL2 or 3. I patch them about as much as Woody - rarely. Last week I think I got the newest telnet RPM.
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Come again? I'll give you cheaper and more energy efficient but let's not get carried away. I bet you lose the energy efficiency once you plug in an external USB hard drive too.
I guess that depends - I don't know the facts for power usage on either, but I'd venture to guess that the baseline draw (Both units equipped with 5400rpm 2.5 inch laptop drives) is much more for the Mini than it is for this. Assuming as much, I'd inevitably upgrade the drive to something like a 400G - and (assuming) the Linksys box draws less in the beginning - it's going to draw less in the end.
It is, and I've been one of the (helpful?) google bombers for a long time; This, however, doesn't mean that Apple doesn't deserve the same description. When linksys sues me, one of their customers, I might add add them to the list too.
Cheaper, more efficient, faster (Disk I/O wise), more stable, more flexible (apt-get) than the Mac Mini. Not to mention the ability to hack it when I want (The warranty is already void!). Moreover, I don't have to give the litigious bastards (Apple, of course) any of my dough!
My new media server!
I can't wait to set this up in a cabinet/closet somewhere and stream video/audio from it.
We just implemented some new business process systems at my work. Management + Vendors == My life a living hell.
Anyway, now that it's all setup, I've been cruising around and they offer the names, licences and follow the terms of every application they use, including:
MIT License
Apache License
GPL
and
Lesser GPL
Outback guy [on TV]: I've got to be careful. So what I'm gonna do is sneak up on him and jam my thumb in his butthole.
Stan: Holy crap, dude!
Outback guy [on TV]: If I get bit out here, I'm 200 kilometers from the nearest hospital. I better be real careful jamming my thumb in his butthole. [jumps into the water and wrestles the croc] Oh boy he's pissed of now!
Kyle: Go dude go!
Outback guy [on TV]: I'm gonna jam my thumb in his butthole now. This should really piss him off. [he
jams his thumb in] [the croc makes a noise] Oh yeah that pissed him off alright!
[the scamps cheer]
Thunderbird displays the "Date" field for messages.
It uses the Timestamp from the MUA of the sender. Don't ask me why. I often get spams from Jan, 1969 and they end up way at the bottom of all my emails. When I get the 2008 ones, they end up at the top. And when someone reinstalls Windows XP I can tell, because they always forget to set their timezone incorrectly.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's not hard to fool some people...
Move to CST. Still get to go to bed @ 10:00 too!
It's 10:30 for those watching The Daily Show.
Could it be argued that they were looking for water in mass quantities, and they needed it soon?
They had about 50,000 people that needed water. I don't disagree that water is common, and it could have been manufactured, but is harnessing some water from, say, one comet going to be enough for the 50,000 to replace their tanks of 60% they lost.
To quote TFS:
"Baltar: I've calculated that the rate of consumption regarding basic foodstuffs for the civilian population, this is based on information available to me at the time. The current civilian population of 45,265 will require, at minimum, 82 tons of grain, 85 tons of meat, 119 tons of fruit, 304 tons of vegetables and... 2.5 million jps of water."
According to TFS, that's per week. Galactica lost 10million jps from the explosion. I don't think comets or even manufacturing could have cured the thirst.
P.S. I don't know what a jps is, or even if it's a real term. I assume it's fake and that it's roughly equivalent to a gallon.
Mod Parent up, most informed post on the page. This is my advice exactly - though I do want to add another scenario:
.1), and it uses addresses of 192.168.0.x. You can sniff the traffic with kismet to determine what kind of traffic is passing back and forth(between the rogue wap and the rogue clients connecting to it). Once you find some outbound traffic to a good external destination, say 100.0.0.1, you can cross your firewall (10.0.0.1) logs with what traffic tried to get to 100.0.0.1 and find what address the rogue is using on your internal subnet.
Say there is a rogue node out there and it has your internal address of 10.0.0.10 (router of
Also another idea worth considering is you can, no matter what kind of security, find the MAC address of the internal connection of the WAP right? Well most WAPs have very similiar MACs between the internal and external interfaces. Assuming you have a decent cisco switch (or similiar), and you know your rogue internal's MAC is aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:02, you can go to your switch and do show mac (or is it cam? or is that just CatOS?) | inc aa:bb:cc:dd:ee and it will give you a list of all devices on which ports with mac addresses similiar to the one above (|inc is like a pipe grep). It's likely the external connections MAC is aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:01. Now you've got a starting point. Figure out which ports they are, trace the ports to their Cat 5 connections and take a look around.
Of course, it could be that your switches are not managed, and do not support that kind of stuff. But that is the *EXACT* kind of argument you should have posed for getting 'smart' switches/equp. in the first place.
Oh, we're supposed to use the comments as a source for facts? Even the ones crawling with Apple fanbois?
I must be new here, maybe that has always been the case.
There were probably exploits for most of these well before the patches were written.
Thank you.
Let the "osx==freebsd" posts begin!
Dammit! I knew I was gonna fuck up a (your!=you are) somewhere. So be it.
Although I'm pretty young and should drive fast and reckless, my A4 gets about 19-23mpg at 80MPH and about 34-38mpg at 60. I rarely drive to/from work faster than 55-60. Honestly, why would I? It doesn't feel like a race anymore once you slow down. It's kinda like that time when you forget to where your watch and never put it on again because of your newly discovered freedom.
Not to mention how much longer one's car will last because you're not driving it like your insane.
I see these benefits for taking my time:
#1. Almost 2x the mpg.
#2. Longer lasting car.
#3. I don't live my life in a race.
#4. I don't need to worry about speeding tickets.
#5. (Probably) less accidents - my reaction time stays the same but my braking distance decreases.
Tell me why it's cool to drive (not) really fast again? People like to think they're rebels over here because they can drive over 90. Pathetic.
Oh, I even forgot to discuss the manslaughter charges when you get busted for speeds 100+. (Could be higher or lower in your state)
The communications barrier is a big deal. A lot of indians claim that they speak perfect english, which may be true, but quite a few are terrible at "speaking" it.
Some people get used to it, others don't notice a difference, but it's likely that a majority of us can't understand a damn thing.
I'm not going to say you don't know what you are talking about, but I'm pretty sure I remember at least some FCs running PCMCIA even when I had them installed on my Desktop (with no PCMCIA cards).
At any rate, what I want to point out is how you seemlingly carelessly throw around the concept of "Granted they may add a second to the boot process, but big deal.". I'd like to chime in with just how bad this is.
People (And os designers:)) who think like this tend to add 12 or 15 of these services on board. All of a sudden, you have 12-15+ seconds of boot time, 3mb x 15 memory usage in addition to the base, and worst of all, daemons that are likely to be susceptible to exploits of some type.
I was going to post a moderately long and well formed post about how stupid it is to black-and-white label people as either Democrat or Republican, but then I thought about how stupid someone has to be to make a statement like yours, and I realized it wouldn't do any good.
If you find some insight in this post, I recommend considering reading or listening to America: A citizens guide to democracy inaction, or any of the countless other guides on "How to form your own opinion instead of listening to the mindless drivel of the masses."
If you don't, I suggest going back to your CNN/MSNBC/FOX news, and wasting your life on this regurgitated vomit the media is feeding you.
HAND
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/c onlaw/southdak.html
You can try to go to http://www.badflash.com/.
They might have something for you.
If you feel like something really cool, you can put a good bios in the mobo (one you got from badflash or a similiar mobo), boot up, pull the good bios, put the bad one back in and reflash.
Sounds crazy-I know-but it's worked every time for me.
Hey! I found this one for you!
On the oracle statement:
Sure, oracle does have at least a gig of stuff to install, but that's a poor excuse, imnsho. I'm talking about the responsiveness of the installer, not how long it takes to get from 1% to 99% complete. Like when you hit next and it takes 10 seconds for the box to redraw itself (running locally). Like when you close it, and it doesn't actually close until you kill -9 it. Like how when you leave it open before you go to lunch and you get back in an hour and it's eaten all of your memory. Like how long it takes for it to just start up!
Sure, these are just anecdotal, but I still think someone needed to call BS to the grandparent who claimed to have never encountered a slow java app.
I didn't mean that to imply that oracle was slow, just the installation. Of course, Oracle has it's moments, but that's neither here nor there.
I was merely calling BS on the guy who said he's never seen a slow java app.
P.S.: You're obviously bullshitting if you say "I don't find any java app to be slow".
Either that you've never installed Oracle, or used Suns Patch management tools, or used the java solaris installer, or used eclipse...or any number of other applications...
Well yeah, that'd be great, I'm sure.
...but is highly resistant to most attacks. ...has awesome security features like... ...generally has a good set of secure, default settings...
It is great! Thanks for recognizing. Try running RHEL 2/3 or Debian Woody/Sarge sometime. In a bad month, I'll have to update 1 or 2 packages, usually ones I don't even need to be there (telnet, etc).
blame the Apple Fanboys who preach absolute security, because they're creating unfair expectations.
Wow! This is what I'm trying to do! Look at some of these things I've seen lately:
1.
2. I count 5 exploits that are triggerable remotely...
3. That's why the thing isn't riddled with bugs...
4.
5.
6. For remote exploits, they have a fabulous reputation of quick patches.
the one blown totally out of proportion because successful remote code execution was extremely difficult?
I wasn't aware the vendors like Apple could blow off vulnerabilities because they were hard to exploit.
The last time I checked, some people on Full disclosure spend hundreds of hours on just one exploit.
The point is: you claim Apple has a "fabulous reputation" - I say they don't. They're no different than everyone else. This negates your "fabulous" claim, which is obviously overzealous.
I don't see any special "poster child treatment" as far as RH, Gentoo and Debian are concerned. Maybe you're taking this too personally - maybe I'm misinterpreting it?
Absolutists like you piss me off. OSX can't have good security.
People who claim OSX has awesome security piss me off. I don't consider myself an absolutist, but if you do, that's fine. I just like to see facts spread around rather than the same old OSX astroturfing that we're seeing so much of lately.
Karma be damned!
You're limiting it to just desktop..if that's the case, I don't have much experience with running "secure" desktops - if only because I don't care.
OTOH, if you want a server, I suggest something like Debian Woody or Sarge, where patches are very infrequent - maybe once every 2 months.
I might *cough* even suggest some of RH's later servers - say RHEL2 or 3. I patch them about as much as Woody - rarely. Last week I think I got the newest telnet RPM.