They appear to not send info the chinese gov. any more than they do to the american gov.
Or rather, they don't hold publically identifiable data within Chinese borders. In other words, no gmail.com.cn, blogspot.com.cn and other stuff.
I do have to agree with Google that they are not being evil for flagging that data has been censored.
I dont quite read Chinese, but I remember reading somewhere that they actually had a link somewhere whenever they censored results?
I do have to wonder how much MS and Yahoo cooperates with North Korea and Cuba gov?
Then again, there's not much you need to do if all that you have to do, is to police the four computers outside your secret subway station!:-) (referring to NK of course, not necessarily to Cuba).
Doubt this would count, but back when I was doing Physics in school, I was in the habit of writing units with the negative exponential. Therefore, I would write metres per sec as ms^-1, for example, mostly for the fact that it looked cool, and because my textbook said it was the right SI way to go.
Had to get to college to start being less pretentious about writing units.
Knew someone would say that and miss what I said about it being tradtionally communist. You'll have to be in the party for some significant time before you rise to the position of a Prime Minister or a President, yes?
Yeah, and MS has one of its largest offshore centers in Beijing. The current buzz out here in Singapore is that there's a fair fight between Chinese and Indian ex-pats in Redmond in bringing projects to their respective home countries.
I'm not saying spying might not be a motivation, but surely, more employment could be one of the more obvious reasons for this wooing?
You seem to be a regular sort of a guy, but I'm sorry, I have to take issue with all of your points:
Almost everybody in India has a pirated version of Windows XP (which came with their computer, so its pretty much "free" for them)
And this is different from other places how? Even in (decadent, IPR-friendly-and-all-that-shit) West, your Windows copy is part of your computer costs, so essentially it's "free" in the sense that you don't have a seperate bill.
Very few people I interviewed actually do Windows Update (probably because of the whole XP-Key validation)
Right. So how's that stopping Linux adoption?
When asked about spyware, they didn't seem to care. Most Indians didn't seem to care about the performance factor.
Again, how's that different from the West?
They also didn't seem to care about identity theft as much either
Linux in India, bud. How does ID theft tie in with Linux? Or are you saying folks actually install Linux because they want to protect themselves from ID theft?
(the culture is such that most people pay just about everything in cash since most vendors charge a "service charge" for using credit cards or even a check)
There's a service charge everywhere in the world, just that, most of the bigger shops absorb this fee because of legal agreements with MasterCard/Visa. Just as it is, I'm sure, in most of urban India.
Tpying in Gujarati in Linux (KDE) takes time and pratice to learn (I assume the same with other Indian languages)
Then again, Gujarati in Linux uses exactly the same Inscript layout as MS Windows does, so I'm not sure how that's stopping Linux adoption.
Personally, I've never really understood this argument about finding it tough to type Indic languages. Let's face facts, with their conjunct consonants and constructed glyphs, Indic scripts are significantly more complex than the 26-letter English alphabet, so yes, you'd expect to spend sometime getting familiar with the keyboard layout. That's part of the deal isn't it, you don't spend that bit of an effort, you don't get Indic glyphs on the screen. It's as simple as that.
Some "cablenet" ISPs in India require you to run Windows software in order to connect to the Internet. There is no support for Linux at this time.
My alma mater here required us to install some Windows-only authentication software to connect to the LAN. The local LUG came up with a Linux-workaround in exactly one day.
My overall point? You seemed to have set out trying to elaborate on the broader thesis that Linux adoption in India is struggling for some India-specific reasons. With the exception of this one point about not having enough brand-awareness, I don't see how the other points should necessarily be detrimental to greater Linux adoption in India.
In fact, I'll even say this:- contrary to the general expectation out here, the whole point of this debate is not to gauge either Wikipedia's or Brittanica's reliability, but Nature's, and I'm afraid the magazine's half-hearted response, for reasons you've stated among many other rthings, has in no way been even remotely satisfactory.
Have had to come into work on Saturday, and was wondering how I could focus on the job without slacking off on Slashdot. Didn't realise that the/. crew already thought of an answer; my eyes can take in only so much pink before they get tired.
That said, I think this new colour goes with my skin colour.
you can have a decent life doing more humble mathematics.
Indeed:-) I was only referring to the oft-quoted stereotype that a mathematician's most productive years are those before he turns 30. Good to see this stereotype being broken steadily.
Heh, Carleson's age was the first thing I checked, incidentally, and you're right, while this meme of all "good" mathematicians being under 29 was popular, it's fast fading out of style. I should hope so; here I am, 24 years old, with a CS-lite degree, and in a dead-end job, but with a fair bit of mathematical ambition. Easier to plan careers (or consider university programmes) if you don't have a mythical six-year limit hanging over your shoulders.;-)
Alas, as much as I wish it were so, and notwithstanding the current cream of the crop, the plain fact of the matter is that Indian polity still has a long way to go before we can realistically say that it's a meritocracy. We still have provincial ministers publically advocating murder, central ministers with criminal records, and even a chief minister who apparently fund insurgent activity with shady money. All of them, you'll note, have been democratically elected through an election process that is mostly accepted as being fair.
So yes, while there are a lot of good people doing some great work in the system yes, disappointingly enough, it's not as if the system as a whole is promoting good, as it were.
You missed the slightly unimportant point that Singapore actually has training bases in Australia for its conscripted army. Remove that, and you've already significantly halved the army's strike capability.
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In old days when people used typewriters there was never any RSI
Then again, people in the old days didn't slack off in front of typewriters, trying to be funny in responding to strangers across the world...;-)
Karen Armstrong's a great resource, keeps popping up on the reference list of most books I read on Islamic history. My personal pop-history favourites, though, are Amir Maloof's Samarqand and William Darymple's White Mughals; White Mughals, especially, is rather interesting in its depiction of a Muslim society that was so open and impressive, that Europeans lined up on its doors to gain acceptance. A bit like, ironically enough, how we South Asians now travel to the decadent West for education, employment and inspiration.
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Like, at least it's better than this other American way of starting sentences. ;-)
Okay, that wasn't that funny.
Had to get to college to start being less pretentious about writing units.
You sir, have made my day. :-)
Knew someone would say that and miss what I said about it being tradtionally communist. You'll have to be in the party for some significant time before you rise to the position of a Prime Minister or a President, yes?
I'm not saying spying might not be a motivation, but surely, more employment could be one of the more obvious reasons for this wooing?
One rather fine point here is that an MBA probably could not have risen through CCP's ranks, what with it traditionally being communist and stuff.
Then again, YouTube and Google Video are already blocked at my workplace, so might be a moot point. :-)
Sorry, had to point it out.
And this is different from other places how? Even in (decadent, IPR-friendly-and-all-that-shit) West, your Windows copy is part of your computer costs, so essentially it's "free" in the sense that you don't have a seperate bill.
Right. So how's that stopping Linux adoption? Again, how's that different from the West? Linux in India, bud. How does ID theft tie in with Linux? Or are you saying folks actually install Linux because they want to protect themselves from ID theft? There's a service charge everywhere in the world, just that, most of the bigger shops absorb this fee because of legal agreements with MasterCard/Visa. Just as it is, I'm sure, in most of urban India. Then again, Gujarati in Linux uses exactly the same Inscript layout as MS Windows does, so I'm not sure how that's stopping Linux adoption.Personally, I've never really understood this argument about finding it tough to type Indic languages. Let's face facts, with their conjunct consonants and constructed glyphs, Indic scripts are significantly more complex than the 26-letter English alphabet, so yes, you'd expect to spend sometime getting familiar with the keyboard layout. That's part of the deal isn't it, you don't spend that bit of an effort, you don't get Indic glyphs on the screen. It's as simple as that.
My alma mater here required us to install some Windows-only authentication software to connect to the LAN. The local LUG came up with a Linux-workaround in exactly one day.My overall point? You seemed to have set out trying to elaborate on the broader thesis that Linux adoption in India is struggling for some India-specific reasons. With the exception of this one point about not having enough brand-awareness, I don't see how the other points should necessarily be detrimental to greater Linux adoption in India.
In fact, I'll even say this:- contrary to the general expectation out here, the whole point of this debate is not to gauge either Wikipedia's or Brittanica's reliability, but Nature's, and I'm afraid the magazine's half-hearted response, for reasons you've stated among many other rthings, has in no way been even remotely satisfactory.
lIke, totallhy!!11!
That said, I think this new colour goes with my skin colour.
-Cyndia
Heh, Carleson's age was the first thing I checked, incidentally, and you're right, while this meme of all "good" mathematicians being under 29 was popular, it's fast fading out of style. I should hope so; here I am, 24 years old, with a CS-lite degree, and in a dead-end job, but with a fair bit of mathematical ambition. Easier to plan careers (or consider university programmes) if you don't have a mythical six-year limit hanging over your shoulders. ;-)
Clearly, I've skirted the round edges, and am still feeling green out here, all puns intended. :-)
Seriously, good stuff. :-)
So yes, while there are a lot of good people doing some great work in the system yes, disappointingly enough, it's not as if the system as a whole is promoting good, as it were.
Go easy on him mate, he's a Yank. Apparently, out there in Yank-istan, they need legal notices to tell them when to be careful and when to laugh.
Know exactly what you mean! [But I've already found a solution acceptable to both the programming and grammar nazi parts of my brain. :-) ]
You missed the slightly unimportant point that Singapore actually has training bases in Australia for its conscripted army. Remove that, and you've already significantly halved the army's strike capability.
Karen Armstrong's a great resource, keeps popping up on the reference list of most books I read on Islamic history. My personal pop-history favourites, though, are Amir Maloof's Samarqand and William Darymple's White Mughals; White Mughals, especially, is rather interesting in its depiction of a Muslim society that was so open and impressive, that Europeans lined up on its doors to gain acceptance. A bit like, ironically enough, how we South Asians now travel to the decadent West for education, employment and inspiration.
I meant, there's no gmail.com.cn or blogspot.com.cn, unlike google.com.cn.