Hmm, let me know how Ubuntu is doing with its easy 3D desktop configuration wizard that allows to pick either AIGLX or Xgl depending on what your hardware supports. How's their SMB, NFS and WebDAV mount wizards? Their graphical VPN configuration tool? Their FTP, web, mail, DNS, SMB, NFS, and proxy server configuration wizards? autofs and ldap configuration tools? Their redundant firewall configuration tool? How's their internationalization going, is Ubuntu available in over 70 languages yet?
Yeah, no reason to use anything but Ubuntu, obviously.
Feel free to let me know what apt does that urpmi doesn't, too. And if apt was the winner of the Linux desktop 'wars', why didn't Debian win sometime in 1999?
And to short-circuit all the crap in this post and the replies, we do provide the nvidia and ATI proprietary drivers in several editions. They're in the commercial boxed editions of 2007. They'll also be in the Club-members only commercial editions. They will also be in some of the editions of One 2007 that are released, for no charge. There will be some One editions that contain only free software, and some that contain some non-free stuff, including the Nvidia and ATI drivers. This gives you a choice between supporting software freedom and actually having 3D acceleration.:) We do think it's important to always provide an edition that is 100% free software, as we believe in the free software ideal.
This is already the case with the betas and RCs - some of the One editions include non-free software, and some do not. If you're not a free software idealist and want your nvidia / ati driver out of the box, get one of the editions that are tagged as including non-free software.
Those *are* the only differences (well, and whether it's a KDE or GNOME live CD, which is also mentioned for each one). Each language supported equates to a certain amount of space used on the CD, and we just can't fit every language we support (nearly 100, more than most distros) on a single live CD, there'd be no space left for actual applications. Hence we produce a lot of live CDs, each with a different selection of languages supported.
Our (Mandriva's) RCs have never really been true RCs. We freeze very late in the development process and we've always shipped 'RC's with known bugs. 2007 is no different, we had 19 bugs tagged release-critical when we released RC1. I've never been particularly happy with this, but it's nothing new, it's the way our beta process has always worked. Just view Mandriva RCs as still being betas, since that's what they really are. We expect them to have bugs and we do fix those bugs. A lot have been fixed for RC2 (just being finalised now) but there's still a few there.
I take it you haven't looked at Mandriva's current GUI tools for wireless networking, which are in my (entirely biased) opinion the best in the industry.
MP3 playback is enabled on the Free edition, but dvdcss is not. That you have to get from PLF, which is not an official or supported source.
2007's commercial editions will include LinDVD, a legally licensed DVD player. 2007 Free will not be able to play encrypted DVDs out of the box, as usual.
Try booting the MDV installer with apic disabled (hit F1 at the first screen that comes up after booting the installer, and type 'linux noapic'). That should help.
This is just stunningly xenophobic reportage. "Only in Japan could this be thought less risky than having a compassionate Filipina drop by for a chat." What? Do they seriously want us to believe the rest of the world is a happy melting pot of social inclusion? Are they seriously telling us that there's not a single redneck in America who wouldn't happily welcome a black person into their home (and vice versa), not a single Protestant in Northern Ireland who wouldn't open their door and sit down for a good old chat with a Catholic neighbour, and so on and so forth? Are they seriously suggesting there are no other countries which have people who would have a robot at home for entertainment / interaction / whatever? If so, what planet does this reporter live on? Sheesh. Pile of crap.
Mine's a completely random 12-character string. My passwords for every other website (and other password-protected things) I use are also (different) random 12-character strings. They're all stored in my password storage app (gpass), which is protected by one extremely strong password I spent five minutes memorising (and will change next month). This whole thing only took about two hours to set up, and it's certainly worth it in terms of peace of mind.
Um. I've never heard from anyone who had a faulty Neuros which wasn't replaced. Mine worked fine for three years until the battery died recently (which happens to all li-based batteries; it's an inescapable consequence of the chemistry. They have a replacement program.) Care to back up your allegations with any kind of testimony?
Because using lame without paying a license fee is still illegal last time I checked, for one reason.
Anyway, Vorbis support is already on the todo list for 442, so it's a bit of a non-issue.
No, not really. He's not talking about audiophile in the 'special rocks that cost $5,000' sense, but in the 'it doesn't sound like a fly in a tin can' sense. Take a _good_ $60 pair of headphones (hint, not Bose), connect them to the high-quality stereo output of a $30 Chaintech AV-710, and you _will_ notice a huge difference in sound quality from the typical geek's "$50 logitech speakers plugged into onboard sound / Audigy" sound setup. A Cowon or iRiver player with decent headphones in any given price range (Sennheiser MX400s for very cheap earbuds, Koss PortaPros or Sennheiser PX100s for cheap headphones, then progressively up into the realms of moderately expensive stuff like Etymotic and Shure, and silly stuff like UE...the point is, at any given price point there are crap things that most people buy, usually made by Bose and Sony, and good things that most people don't) _will_ sound better than other options. Joe doesn't mean he's going to put special rocks in the new player and sell it for $1,000 - he means he's going to put a decent DAC and probably a digital out in it, and sell it for $50 more than it would otherwise cost. Makes sense to me, and a lot of other people.
From the graphs in the review, it appears even more sensible than that. They've used the classic Idiots Think This Sounds Better filter: pump up the low end and high end, de-emphasise the midrange. To your average moron listening through $60 pawn shop speakers, this sounds 'better' than the original audio. Just check the frequency response graph with the 'super special make-it-sound-better mode' turned on, compared to the one with it turned off. Turned off, it's a proper-looking curve for a low-end sound card: pretty close to flat, except right at the very ends. With the whiz-bang mode turned on, it looks like a mountain at each end and a valley in the middle...
In one corner, we have Blackberry, which cleverly turned a very simple thing (wireless e-mail) into a huge proprietary system which they plan to pump for cash for decades.
In the other corner, we have an IMAP server and a Treo (or any other smartphone capable of running an IMAP email client; there's a lot of them). Does the same thing, using established, open standards that have been around for years. I run courier-imap on my home server and Chatteremail on my Treo - I've got mobile email (and yes, it does 'push') without paying Blackberry a monthly fee ad infinitum, and without any nasty patent lawyers coming around...
Agreed. Loss from compression and the problems of crappy earphones aren't the same; even badly compressed music will still sound BETTER on good earphones. Not great...but better.
Well, Mandrake uses its firewall (shorewall) to do the NAT for connection sharing, so it *has* to turn it on. If you want to open it up, just configure internet connection sharing and then use the firewall wizard (drakfirewall) to open the ports you need. If you're using a machine to share an internet connection you damn well ought to have it firewalled, anyway. =)
Wireless is, um, patchy in MDK at the moment. As for drivers - 0.11b of the orinoco drivers are in there, which is the best stable version ATM according to the author (he says 0.12 shouldn't be used). The linux-wlan-ng *drivers* are there, but for some reason the support software wasn't officially packaged for MDK 9.0, so they're basically useless. The older drivers - wvlan_cs etc - are there too. The card database is a bit incomplete, it's missing cards listed in more recent releases of orinoco, for example. There are a few cards which work excellently - so long as MDK actually *knows* about the card, the standard MDK tools work to configure it - but equally there's lots of cards that will actually work that MDK doesn't know about. For my card, I have to manually add its id info to the PCMCIA config files, which isn't really ideal. I'm hoping this will get worked on a lot for 9.1 - a better card database and packaging the wlan-ng tools would be a start. But it does have *driver* level support for a wide range of cards, so you ought to be able to get things working with any prism2-based card at least.
The new rpmdrake in 2007 is a combined interface - install / remove are in the same application again.
Er, what? The kernel is 2.6.17. There isn't even a 2.4 kernel in the distro any more (we still had a legacy one in 2006).
Hmm, let me know how Ubuntu is doing with its easy 3D desktop configuration wizard that allows to pick either AIGLX or Xgl depending on what your hardware supports. How's their SMB, NFS and WebDAV mount wizards? Their graphical VPN configuration tool? Their FTP, web, mail, DNS, SMB, NFS, and proxy server configuration wizards? autofs and ldap configuration tools? Their redundant firewall configuration tool? How's their internationalization going, is Ubuntu available in over 70 languages yet? Yeah, no reason to use anything but Ubuntu, obviously. Feel free to let me know what apt does that urpmi doesn't, too. And if apt was the winner of the Linux desktop 'wars', why didn't Debian win sometime in 1999?
And to short-circuit all the crap in this post and the replies, we do provide the nvidia and ATI proprietary drivers in several editions. They're in the commercial boxed editions of 2007. They'll also be in the Club-members only commercial editions. They will also be in some of the editions of One 2007 that are released, for no charge. There will be some One editions that contain only free software, and some that contain some non-free stuff, including the Nvidia and ATI drivers. This gives you a choice between supporting software freedom and actually having 3D acceleration. :) We do think it's important to always provide an edition that is 100% free software, as we believe in the free software ideal.
This is already the case with the betas and RCs - some of the One editions include non-free software, and some do not. If you're not a free software idealist and want your nvidia / ati driver out of the box, get one of the editions that are tagged as including non-free software.
Those *are* the only differences (well, and whether it's a KDE or GNOME live CD, which is also mentioned for each one). Each language supported equates to a certain amount of space used on the CD, and we just can't fit every language we support (nearly 100, more than most distros) on a single live CD, there'd be no space left for actual applications. Hence we produce a lot of live CDs, each with a different selection of languages supported.
Our (Mandriva's) RCs have never really been true RCs. We freeze very late in the development process and we've always shipped 'RC's with known bugs. 2007 is no different, we had 19 bugs tagged release-critical when we released RC1. I've never been particularly happy with this, but it's nothing new, it's the way our beta process has always worked. Just view Mandriva RCs as still being betas, since that's what they really are. We expect them to have bugs and we do fix those bugs. A lot have been fixed for RC2 (just being finalised now) but there's still a few there.
I take it you haven't looked at Mandriva's current GUI tools for wireless networking, which are in my (entirely biased) opinion the best in the industry.
MP3 playback is enabled on the Free edition, but dvdcss is not. That you have to get from PLF, which is not an official or supported source. 2007's commercial editions will include LinDVD, a legally licensed DVD player. 2007 Free will not be able to play encrypted DVDs out of the box, as usual.
It's not for next year. 2007 will be released this month. It's called 2007 because it'll be the current version for most of the year 2007.
Try booting the MDV installer with apic disabled (hit F1 at the first screen that comes up after booting the installer, and type 'linux noapic'). That should help.
'Mainichi Daily News'? So that's 'Daily Daily News', then? Bit like 'PIN number', that one...
That would be because they're the incumbent monopoly in the desktop operating system market. Much as we (Mandriva) would like to be, we're not.
This is just stunningly xenophobic reportage. "Only in Japan could this be thought less risky than having a compassionate Filipina drop by for a chat." What? Do they seriously want us to believe the rest of the world is a happy melting pot of social inclusion? Are they seriously telling us that there's not a single redneck in America who wouldn't happily welcome a black person into their home (and vice versa), not a single Protestant in Northern Ireland who wouldn't open their door and sit down for a good old chat with a Catholic neighbour, and so on and so forth? Are they seriously suggesting there are no other countries which have people who would have a robot at home for entertainment / interaction / whatever? If so, what planet does this reporter live on? Sheesh. Pile of crap.
Sheesh.
Mine's a completely random 12-character string. My passwords for every other website (and other password-protected things) I use are also (different) random 12-character strings. They're all stored in my password storage app (gpass), which is protected by one extremely strong password I spent five minutes memorising (and will change next month). This whole thing only took about two hours to set up, and it's certainly worth it in terms of peace of mind.
Um. I've never heard from anyone who had a faulty Neuros which wasn't replaced. Mine worked fine for three years until the battery died recently (which happens to all li-based batteries; it's an inescapable consequence of the chemistry. They have a replacement program.) Care to back up your allegations with any kind of testimony?
Because using lame without paying a license fee is still illegal last time I checked, for one reason. Anyway, Vorbis support is already on the todo list for 442, so it's a bit of a non-issue.
No, not really. He's not talking about audiophile in the 'special rocks that cost $5,000' sense, but in the 'it doesn't sound like a fly in a tin can' sense. Take a _good_ $60 pair of headphones (hint, not Bose), connect them to the high-quality stereo output of a $30 Chaintech AV-710, and you _will_ notice a huge difference in sound quality from the typical geek's "$50 logitech speakers plugged into onboard sound / Audigy" sound setup. A Cowon or iRiver player with decent headphones in any given price range (Sennheiser MX400s for very cheap earbuds, Koss PortaPros or Sennheiser PX100s for cheap headphones, then progressively up into the realms of moderately expensive stuff like Etymotic and Shure, and silly stuff like UE...the point is, at any given price point there are crap things that most people buy, usually made by Bose and Sony, and good things that most people don't) _will_ sound better than other options. Joe doesn't mean he's going to put special rocks in the new player and sell it for $1,000 - he means he's going to put a decent DAC and probably a digital out in it, and sell it for $50 more than it would otherwise cost. Makes sense to me, and a lot of other people.
From the graphs in the review, it appears even more sensible than that. They've used the classic Idiots Think This Sounds Better filter: pump up the low end and high end, de-emphasise the midrange. To your average moron listening through $60 pawn shop speakers, this sounds 'better' than the original audio. Just check the frequency response graph with the 'super special make-it-sound-better mode' turned on, compared to the one with it turned off. Turned off, it's a proper-looking curve for a low-end sound card: pretty close to flat, except right at the very ends. With the whiz-bang mode turned on, it looks like a mountain at each end and a valley in the middle...
In one corner, we have Blackberry, which cleverly turned a very simple thing (wireless e-mail) into a huge proprietary system which they plan to pump for cash for decades. In the other corner, we have an IMAP server and a Treo (or any other smartphone capable of running an IMAP email client; there's a lot of them). Does the same thing, using established, open standards that have been around for years. I run courier-imap on my home server and Chatteremail on my Treo - I've got mobile email (and yes, it does 'push') without paying Blackberry a monthly fee ad infinitum, and without any nasty patent lawyers coming around...
Agreed. Loss from compression and the problems of crappy earphones aren't the same; even badly compressed music will still sound BETTER on good earphones. Not great...but better.
Well, Mandrake uses its firewall (shorewall) to do the NAT for connection sharing, so it *has* to turn it on. If you want to open it up, just configure internet connection sharing and then use the firewall wizard (drakfirewall) to open the ports you need. If you're using a machine to share an internet connection you damn well ought to have it firewalled, anyway. =)
Mandrake was a tuned version of Red Hat...at version 6.x.
Version 9.x is completely different. Try it before making uninformed comments.
I believe it's kept in PLF, where stuff that can't go in Mandrake for legal, patent, license etc reasons goes. http://plf.zarb.org
Wireless is, um, patchy in MDK at the moment. As for drivers - 0.11b of the orinoco drivers are in there, which is the best stable version ATM according to the author (he says 0.12 shouldn't be used). The linux-wlan-ng *drivers* are there, but for some reason the support software wasn't officially packaged for MDK 9.0, so they're basically useless. The older drivers - wvlan_cs etc - are there too. The card database is a bit incomplete, it's missing cards listed in more recent releases of orinoco, for example. There are a few cards which work excellently - so long as MDK actually *knows* about the card, the standard MDK tools work to configure it - but equally there's lots of cards that will actually work that MDK doesn't know about. For my card, I have to manually add its id info to the PCMCIA config files, which isn't really ideal. I'm hoping this will get worked on a lot for 9.1 - a better card database and packaging the wlan-ng tools would be a start. But it does have *driver* level support for a wide range of cards, so you ought to be able to get things working with any prism2-based card at least.
And pico isn't a problem, since nano *is* packaged (though it may be in contribs, I don't remember).