Another thing I did like about slackware was that it came with enough libraries already that I could compile nearly anything without downloading deps. Unfortunetly, I have older hardware, so compiling things takes quite a while for a big program. Its also more convienent to simply type apt-get bzflag, or whatever program instead of downloading, extracting, configuring, compiling, etc. which also takes some time (compiling). I compile most of my programs, but a good binary system would be nice.
I loved Slack 10. Its install isn't half as bad as people make it out to be. Its 20x easier than the debian install. Then, its fast, stable, and if your not new to Linux, its not really that hard to use. I wish that it had some Apt-Get sort of thing (besides Swaret/Slapt-get which have a low package base in comparison. They don't have even bzflag if I remember correctly(correct me if I'm wrong)). Ignoring package management, i'd say its one of my favorite distro's. Its just so stinkin fast to install and use.
It all depends where you buy. If you get a box of www.pricewatch.com for example, you can get a cheap box thats fast and dependable, with each part you want. I got my computer in 2001. I've had only one failure (I was an idiot and did some stupid things), which was my fault. If you skip Dell and Gateway and some other things, you should be fine. A few people I know have eMachines from 1999-2001 which still work great. Just because its PC Hardware and its cheap doesn't make it trash.
Did I ever imply it was free? No! You pay for spreadsheets on windows. Just because you need to pay for this doesn't mean it doesn't give you better compatibility. I wasn't trolling.
Linux is finally getting somewhere. Sure, it was backed by IBM, and countless other business were using it. Unfortunetaly they were using it as a server. Finally, Linux is being offered to the general public (and not next to a myrad of Windows based PC's at Walmarts). Once you have a good Mandrake (probably Lindows too, never tried Lindows) install, its just as easy as Windows, and comes with a lot more software. Now that users don't need to worry about the installation, it will probably catch on more (understandably, this is just one shop, but its a good starting point).
I mean, I like them. They can be quite interesting, but how many people are interested in that motherboard from the 80's? Maybe 1/300 (random statistic, hopefully somewhere near correct, atleast for around here). I like computer museums, but I'd think that their would be lack of interest, and have always wondered how the low amount of people they get is enough to sustain them. I mean, lots of people go, but compared to just about any other large museum (at least around here, the Boston Computer Museum is huge), they really don't get that many people, and it costs a lot to run. I'd think that most computer museums would have gone the way of this one a long time ago, however unfortunetly
I'd tried Debian, Mandrake, and a few minor distro's. I don't know why everyone says that slack is hard to configure. Atleast in the newer versions , it isn't. I installed slack 9.1 I think it was. It went without a hitch, not at all confusing compared to debian, although a graphical install would have been nice for anyone new. It finished the install and then restarted. I typed startx. On most computers, it would have been fine. I looked in the file and it was configured, except for my integrated graphics, which I no longer used (put in a GeForce but never disabled integrated). I changed that one line in the file to NV, and X worked. Network worked, CDRoms worked, etc. I don't get why people say its hard to install. Although nongraphical, the install is still menu driven and straight forwards. The configuration is minimal, and its fast and rock solid. I never looked back after that. Swaret works great, and for things not in a slack package, they will usually compile perfectly. GO SLACK!
I always found Opera fast, and much lighter than Mozilla. But, with the advent of Firefox, I'd have to say theres not much reason to stick with Opera. I just don't see very many advantages (plus, Firefox is open source).
OK, people are using it. I meant to say, who is still buying SCO Unixware (giving them revenue besides lawsuits). Well, I have a one message: DIE AUTOZONE!
Who actually uses SCO Unixware. I mean, usually any business that wants unix will go with Linux, and in some cases AIX, etc. But who actually uses SCO Unixware, besides SCO (oops, forgot that they were running Linux...)
Your implying that Linux is not an OS. It very much is. It doesn't have the same shiny brushed metal theme, but you can d/l it for KDE, IceWM, Gnome, etc. Linux is just as fast and stable as OSX. Plus, OpenOffice, I believe gnome has a calender program, but I don't use it. Linux comes with just as many if not more packages depending on your distro. G5's are great, but so are the new x86-64's from AMD. Their up there too, plus not that expensive depending on the model. Apple is better for dual-processing I'll agree, and for certain people OSX is just great (too flashy for me personally though). If you know where to look, you can configure a PC for a good bit less (www.pricewatch.com), and for those of us not into 3d animation, a $500 box will just be fine. For most people on slashdot, the only thing that will tax the processer/ram is a compile of some sort. Any of the AMD64's should be just fine with anything though. If your using that up, i don't know what your doing besides media.
What the heck were you (parent) talking about?
SP2 is not a Car wreck at all. I downloaded the Beta SP2 a few months back (I need windows for my Pocket PC, stupid active sync). It went flawlessly and will work wonders IMO, with auto updating in the background and such. I can't wait till this things goes to the masses. It will definitly be a good thing.
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Personally I use KDE, but I used to use gnome. Not as pretty, but its faster and lighter than KDE. Take out C/C++ (forget which they right it in), and use Java or C#, they just made it bulkier and much slower. That would be their main opinion IMO. Gnome doesn't look bad, but most people I've talked to think KDE looks better. Take away Gnome's advantage in this situation, and they don't have much going for them.
Not to be a flaimbait or anything, but I think that your completely wrong about Visicalc. Computers aren't designed to mimic things from the real world. Many good programs don't. The spreadsheet is productive, very. In fact, it doesn't mimic paper+calc+pencil for doing banking, it superceeds it.
My local bank simply has us use our name to sign in, and a password we choose. Because I choose passwords, and I don't have much money, i never thought of this as very scary. I guess that in the event that somone tried to steal my money though, I would be quite vulnerable. One better technique that I've learned is to spread your money through multiple accounts. No one will want to waste much time breaking into a few accouns with small soums of money when someone out their has lots in one account.
Another interesting Vector Graphics program is Flash 4 Linux;
http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
Although in Alpha, it is quite usefull. Its a flashlike program (very similar interface to flash studio), and it is quite far along. It does animations and everything (I believe it doesn't have full flash script abilities yet). It can create flash files.
Actually, Knoppix will. I don't remember the exact details, but you need to do it from the command line. If that scares you, use linux a little more and it won't. Personally, I had trouble getting Mandrake Move 1 to work, but I'll try out two. Knoppix does do a good job with the USB drives if you look it up though. Give it a try some time.
Seriously, this seems kind off pointless. If they make a windows version though, worms could take advantage. That would make for an interesting time. I didn't order 87 pizza's, it was my security hole!
Dunno, I upgraded 98 to XP. Turn of the welcome screen, and XP runs about 80 billions times faster than XP. I also have yet for it to crash. I find it more responsive than Linux. I liked Linux, just because of the close down and in control feel to the computer, but for development I found it easier to use VS.NET. XP runs without a hitch on a P3 1.0 Ghz. Boots up in 35 seconds (timed). Runs beautifully, I haven't noticed much of a speed difference from Linux. The big one is security, but put up a good firewall, keep it patched, don't use outlook or IE, and I like windows quite a bit. (No, I'm not new here)
I first looked at the install procudure, and freaked out. After moving on from mandrake, and instlaling debian a few times, and getting the hang of linux a good bit more, I actually gave gentoo a try. The install, although tedious and quite slow, was straight forward and somewhat enjoyable. Finally, I had a bootable system. Unfortuneatly, I couldn't get it to detect my network card, so I tried to get the network driver of the live cd. Next, I couldn't find my cd-rom. Finally, I found that (it started with s instead of cd something like I expected), I got the network working. I than gave it a try. Its a great system, but I got annoyed at the compiles and such, and I thought that if I was just going to use binary packages I might as well use debian. All in all, if you like the advantages of compiling, use it, but if you hate compiling, no real reason to install it in the first place IMO.
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Another thing I did like about slackware was that it came with enough libraries already that I could compile nearly anything without downloading deps. Unfortunetly, I have older hardware, so compiling things takes quite a while for a big program. Its also more convienent to simply type apt-get bzflag, or whatever program instead of downloading, extracting, configuring, compiling, etc. which also takes some time (compiling). I compile most of my programs, but a good binary system would be nice.
I loved Slack 10. Its install isn't half as bad as people make it out to be. Its 20x easier than the debian install. Then, its fast, stable, and if your not new to Linux, its not really that hard to use. I wish that it had some Apt-Get sort of thing (besides Swaret/Slapt-get which have a low package base in comparison. They don't have even bzflag if I remember correctly(correct me if I'm wrong)). Ignoring package management, i'd say its one of my favorite distro's. Its just so stinkin fast to install and use.
It all depends where you buy. If you get a box of www.pricewatch.com for example, you can get a cheap box thats fast and dependable, with each part you want. I got my computer in 2001. I've had only one failure (I was an idiot and did some stupid things), which was my fault. If you skip Dell and Gateway and some other things, you should be fine. A few people I know have eMachines from 1999-2001 which still work great. Just because its PC Hardware and its cheap doesn't make it trash.
Did I ever imply it was free? No! You pay for spreadsheets on windows. Just because you need to pay for this doesn't mean it doesn't give you better compatibility. I wasn't trolling.
This is a great step forwards. Way to go guys! I can't wait to download it and give it a go. The more compatability, the better...
Linux is finally getting somewhere. Sure, it was backed by IBM, and countless other business were using it. Unfortunetaly they were using it as a server. Finally, Linux is being offered to the general public (and not next to a myrad of Windows based PC's at Walmarts). Once you have a good Mandrake (probably Lindows too, never tried Lindows) install, its just as easy as Windows, and comes with a lot more software. Now that users don't need to worry about the installation, it will probably catch on more (understandably, this is just one shop, but its a good starting point).
I mean, I like them. They can be quite interesting, but how many people are interested in that motherboard from the 80's? Maybe 1/300 (random statistic, hopefully somewhere near correct, atleast for around here). I like computer museums, but I'd think that their would be lack of interest, and have always wondered how the low amount of people they get is enough to sustain them. I mean, lots of people go, but compared to just about any other large museum (at least around here, the Boston Computer Museum is huge), they really don't get that many people, and it costs a lot to run. I'd think that most computer museums would have gone the way of this one a long time ago, however unfortunetly
I'd tried Debian, Mandrake, and a few minor distro's. I don't know why everyone says that slack is hard to configure. Atleast in the newer versions , it isn't. I installed slack 9.1 I think it was. It went without a hitch, not at all confusing compared to debian, although a graphical install would have been nice for anyone new. It finished the install and then restarted. I typed startx. On most computers, it would have been fine. I looked in the file and it was configured, except for my integrated graphics, which I no longer used (put in a GeForce but never disabled integrated). I changed that one line in the file to NV, and X worked. Network worked, CDRoms worked, etc. I don't get why people say its hard to install. Although nongraphical, the install is still menu driven and straight forwards. The configuration is minimal, and its fast and rock solid. I never looked back after that. Swaret works great, and for things not in a slack package, they will usually compile perfectly. GO SLACK!
Inform me if I'm wrong, but didn't Linus make Linux because he didn't like Minix?
I always found Opera fast, and much lighter than Mozilla. But, with the advent of Firefox, I'd have to say theres not much reason to stick with Opera. I just don't see very many advantages (plus, Firefox is open source).
OK, people are using it. I meant to say, who is still buying SCO Unixware (giving them revenue besides lawsuits). Well, I have a one message: DIE AUTOZONE!
Who actually uses SCO Unixware. I mean, usually any business that wants unix will go with Linux, and in some cases AIX, etc. But who actually uses SCO Unixware, besides SCO (oops, forgot that they were running Linux...)
Your implying that Linux is not an OS. It very much is. It doesn't have the same shiny brushed metal theme, but you can d/l it for KDE, IceWM, Gnome, etc. Linux is just as fast and stable as OSX. Plus, OpenOffice, I believe gnome has a calender program, but I don't use it. Linux comes with just as many if not more packages depending on your distro. G5's are great, but so are the new x86-64's from AMD. Their up there too, plus not that expensive depending on the model. Apple is better for dual-processing I'll agree, and for certain people OSX is just great (too flashy for me personally though). If you know where to look, you can configure a PC for a good bit less (www.pricewatch.com), and for those of us not into 3d animation, a $500 box will just be fine. For most people on slashdot, the only thing that will tax the processer/ram is a compile of some sort. Any of the AMD64's should be just fine with anything though. If your using that up, i don't know what your doing besides media.
What the heck were you (parent) talking about? SP2 is not a Car wreck at all. I downloaded the Beta SP2 a few months back (I need windows for my Pocket PC, stupid active sync). It went flawlessly and will work wonders IMO, with auto updating in the background and such. I can't wait till this things goes to the masses. It will definitly be a good thing.
Personally I use KDE, but I used to use gnome. Not as pretty, but its faster and lighter than KDE. Take out C/C++ (forget which they right it in), and use Java or C#, they just made it bulkier and much slower. That would be their main opinion IMO. Gnome doesn't look bad, but most people I've talked to think KDE looks better. Take away Gnome's advantage in this situation, and they don't have much going for them.
Not to be a flaimbait or anything, but I think that your completely wrong about Visicalc. Computers aren't designed to mimic things from the real world. Many good programs don't. The spreadsheet is productive, very. In fact, it doesn't mimic paper+calc+pencil for doing banking, it superceeds it.
My local bank simply has us use our name to sign in, and a password we choose. Because I choose passwords, and I don't have much money, i never thought of this as very scary. I guess that in the event that somone tried to steal my money though, I would be quite vulnerable. One better technique that I've learned is to spread your money through multiple accounts. No one will want to waste much time breaking into a few accouns with small soums of money when someone out their has lots in one account.
Another interesting Vector Graphics program is Flash 4 Linux; http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ Although in Alpha, it is quite usefull. Its a flashlike program (very similar interface to flash studio), and it is quite far along. It does animations and everything (I believe it doesn't have full flash script abilities yet). It can create flash files.
Actually, Knoppix will. I don't remember the exact details, but you need to do it from the command line. If that scares you, use linux a little more and it won't. Personally, I had trouble getting Mandrake Move 1 to work, but I'll try out two. Knoppix does do a good job with the USB drives if you look it up though. Give it a try some time.
Father: Son, why did you drive the car into the pond?!
Son: I was low and fuel and I decided to look for some algea.
The wardrivers will be having a blast.
AMD seems very calm about this. If I was in AMD's position, I would be in pretty scared. I mean, Intel is a year a head of schedule.
Personally, I'm just happy that soon enough I'll be able to buy a duel core chip.
Seriously, this seems kind off pointless. If they make a windows version though, worms could take advantage. That would make for an interesting time. I didn't order 87 pizza's, it was my security hole!
Dunno, I upgraded 98 to XP. Turn of the welcome screen, and XP runs about 80 billions times faster than XP. I also have yet for it to crash. I find it more responsive than Linux. I liked Linux, just because of the close down and in control feel to the computer, but for development I found it easier to use VS.NET. XP runs without a hitch on a P3 1.0 Ghz. Boots up in 35 seconds (timed). Runs beautifully, I haven't noticed much of a speed difference from Linux. The big one is security, but put up a good firewall, keep it patched, don't use outlook or IE, and I like windows quite a bit.
(No, I'm not new here)
I first looked at the install procudure, and freaked out. After moving on from mandrake, and instlaling debian a few times, and getting the hang of linux a good bit more, I actually gave gentoo a try. The install, although tedious and quite slow, was straight forward and somewhat enjoyable. Finally, I had a bootable system. Unfortuneatly, I couldn't get it to detect my network card, so I tried to get the network driver of the live cd. Next, I couldn't find my cd-rom. Finally, I found that (it started with s instead of cd something like I expected), I got the network working. I than gave it a try. Its a great system, but I got annoyed at the compiles and such, and I thought that if I was just going to use binary packages I might as well use debian. All in all, if you like the advantages of compiling, use it, but if you hate compiling, no real reason to install it in the first place IMO.