...because THEY are afraid they might let something confidential slip out. Their fear, not a prohibition from the government, stops them from talking.
Fear of what? Sounds to me like fear of the goverment to come knoking to me. It's not asking when it's an implied threat.
Great Britain does not have a 1st Amendment, and even if it did (or has something equivalent) these scientists have waived the rights it would grant by signing an agreement not to talk about certain things.
All the more reason scientists and anyone else able to think for themselves should leave such a place. I'm from the US, and i'll be first to admit its a horrible place, its a really terrible goverment, and even we are having issues at the moment with this free speech stuff, but at least its being attempted here.
As for the second point, you cant really wave your right to the 1st amendment here, not in this sort of context anyway. Being able to do so would render it more or less useless. "you wave your right to your 1st amendment rights by utilizing the given "FREE SPEECH ZONE" of your choice." sort of BS would be allowable then, rendering it useless.
I think Apple's reply was "we have never ever heard of Prism, and nobody gets any data without court issued subpoena
Just wanted to point out...
Apple wouldn't need to be aware of Prism, Prism goes after the network providers, Verison, AT&T, etc.
Its a smaller vector of attack, if they had to go after every single phone manufacturer they'd have a much harder time getting everything.
Google is aware of it because Google is not just involved in Android, they're also the largest internet search provider on the planet. Again, small vectors, they dont go after the ISPs, they go after the search providers.
Given how this system works, how on earth do you 'rent' a game for this system?
They've managed to put a rifle to the head of rental companies and pulled the trigger until the clip went click. No rentals when the system locks games to specific machines like this.
What morons like you seem to miss is, its not a given that human beings will be able to survive. So yeah, I guess you're right, if you dont mind possibly killing off the entire human race.
While true in theory, what ends up happening is you call to cancle because of the breach of contract, and you get yelled at and treated badly by their 'customer service' for 3-4 hours as you escilate up the chain trying to terminate your now null and void contract without paying the ETF, over 61 cents a month.
Most people will just cave and either switch once the plan is over, or not bother switching at all, because the hassel of getting these jerks to do what is legal and right will end up costing you half a days wage when you take them to small-claims court to get it overturned by a judge because they dont even bother showing up in court.
Oh but dont worry, if you DONT pay the ETF and ignore it, they'll send you to collections, where when you dispute the charge, will get added to your credit rating and affect you for the next 10 years or 7 years or whatever the hell it is, even after you get them to agree that the charges were wrong, unless you spend even more time writing letters and sending lawsuit judgement letters to the credit agencies to get it cleaned up. Even then, might not work.
Companies need to get slapped across the face when they pull this crud, individuals are unable to fight this kind of stuff without sacrificing more than what its going to end up costing them if they just put with it, which is of course excatly why AT&T and their kin do this kind of thing.
Clearly the only answer to this problem is to declare hurricanes a terrorist organization, let the US Military take over the NOAA fully for national security reasons and launch enough weather satellites into orbit that their combined blockage of the sun counter-acts global warming, which is causing them to get steadily stronger as time goes by.
This lets the Republicans continue to massivly overspend on the US Military for poinless reasons, and gives the Democrats a win as the War Against Global Warming, while still managing to screw the average american public with overspending and higher taxes as we blast huge amounts of chinese-made weather satelites into orbit.
So provide a link in the file description to your website where they can download the file. There, that was hard.
You cant just, in a position like what Microsoft is in, work around the TOS of another website because you dont much care for it. If I tried to do that to Microsoft you can be pretty sure i'd find myself in court. So how is this any different? If they're all about not having restricted access then that's awsome, so...lets see them follow through when the shoe is on the other foot.
Otherwise, this is all just a bunch of BS as they try to paint Google as a bad guy because they do what Microsoft is also doing, and that's clearly not fair...right?
So do you support the notion that nobody should be allowed to take photo's in a public place then? What about a drawing? Can I draw what's happening in a public place?
Just walking along, if I nab a picture of you, it's no longer forgotten. Same deal if I draw it, yet since it's a public place, i'd argue there are full rights to do such things in public. Unless of course you'd like to pass a law saying any recording of any public space is to now be illegal, but that doesn't seem to support your position any better.
People shouldn't oppose this because its an invasion of privacy as the GP hinted at. People should be opposing this because it's wrong, and its not going to be used to 'prevent crime'. It's going to be used to prevent people from exercising their rights to protest, and organize in a peaceful group. Your thoughts on 'privacy' only work to confuse the issue enough to let this sort of garbage get through.
Do you have a right to tell someone else where they're allowed to use their cell phone?
Should you?
Way I see it, I dont have a problem with physical shielding to prevent cellphone use. Jammers however are problematic because they are not restricted to your physical premis.
If you, as a company/owner/whatever wish to block RF and prevent cellphone use, i'm cool with that. But if you install a jammer and it affects someone who's standing on the curb outfront your building, you're now in violation and should get taken to court over it. I dont have the right to tell you what you must do on your own property, much as you dont have the right to tell me what I cant do on public property.
Means jammers could never work, unless the building was already jamming singals passively, thus removing the need for a jammer from within the building anyway.
Why not? They're not that different from space ships in many ways.
Both must keep high pressure and low pressure areas seperate and protected from one another. Both must supply the crew with life support functions and the ability to communicate. Sure keeping the ocean out vs keeping the atmosphere in is different, but thats a structual question, functionally it's pretty similar.
By far the largest difference is a sub doesn't have a weight limit anywhere near as strict as a space ship, but that's more of a technology and material science issue. I could see someone who built submarines having some insight into how to build a space ship.
Hyperbole? Yes. It's also idiotic. "Unwritten rule" really? They make cameras now that are so small they can be woven into a coat and you'd never know it's there. You should be acting as if you're on camera anywhere you go already, since its rather likely you are, even if you dont already know it. Calling out Google Glass on the possiblity only shows you're inability to see through your own idiocy.
If you have a problem with this, you have a problem with Technology as a whole. Go live in a cave if it makes you feel safe, the rest of us will happily move on without you. I dont even have interest in Google Glass (honestly I dont see the point) but that doesn't mean I fear it like a beaten dog fears its abusive master. The heck is wrong with you people?
Then I hope you dont own a phone, a tablet, a PC, or any other eletronic device that could later be updated to do something terrible!
Sorta like arguing we shouldn't pass a law that says it's ok for gay people to get married "because it might later get extended to cover beastialty and people getting married to toads!". It's an absurd argument, you cant actually find something faulty so instead you invent something that 'could' happen and then attack it with that. Better outlaw the car, someone could buy one then change out the tires for ones with long razor blades and replace the hood with cast iron spikes and go on a rampage! oh the horror!
Nobody kills in the name of Zeus anymore because they got killed off by all the other people killing them in the name of some other random god-like figure. Time only seems to make it worse.
I dont think people oppose that because the person found guilty might suffer discomfort. I think people oppose it because you're killing them. I think a lot of people find killing someone wrong, and dont feel that killing someone is right. So they're looking for excuses, not saying what they're saying is right or wrong, just saying it as it is.
I suspect that this ammendment was written this way on purpuse. What is "Crule and Unusual" to them is not the same as to us, and the document was ment to pass the test of time (if possible).
That said, I'd consider this punishment pretty minor, only because i'd consider the crime commited as significantly harsher. This young man attempted to kill everyone on that plane. You could maybe say unintentional manslaughter but the end result is, if he had blinded the pilot, that plane wouldn't have come back down in a single peice. It was putting the lives of everyone onboard at risk. He maybe didn't intend to do that, having been a fool and not thought through what he was doing...but if I run over someone by mistake in my Car, i'm still charged with killing that person. Same should apply here.
Didn't you get the memo? This is the US of A, around these parts we're expected to be fully engaged for a solid 8 hours (including breaks and lunches) in our work. Longer if you're salaried, because that means legally they now own you and every moment of your conscious being. This includes reserving the right to wake you from unconsciousness without warning to call you into the office (and you'd best think about what you need to do once you get to work, on the way to work.)
Err...Yes, data centers use eletricity. And they pay for it, just like everyone else does. And that includes taxes on said energy. As for parking lots and air...well the land is taxed so there's your parking lot, and air...umm...well we do charge companies taxes for pollution and tax incentives to cut pollution, but nobody actually 'pays' for air.
Not very clear how Roads and Healthcare play into an internet/software tax, but these are also paid for, by things like gas taxes and however you choose to pay for healthcare currently.
Why is there always someone like YOU in every crowd who feels that everyone else should pay for things? If gas taxes are not covering the costs of road repair for example...we should be taxing more for it. You dont just invent stuff to tax to pay for other things, unless you're an idiot. Thease places give back in the same way as every other company gives back, through taxes and employment. As usual, the idiots in goverment (and idiots like you who vote for them from the looks of it) are just going to drive companies to other places, negating any tax benifits they would have gained, AND losing what they're already getting.
Slashdot Mirror
...because THEY are afraid they might let something confidential slip out. Their fear, not a prohibition from the government, stops them from talking.
Fear of what? Sounds to me like fear of the goverment to come knoking to me. It's not asking when it's an implied threat.
Great Britain does not have a 1st Amendment, and even if it did (or has something equivalent) these scientists have waived the rights it would grant by signing an agreement not to talk about certain things.
All the more reason scientists and anyone else able to think for themselves should leave such a place. I'm from the US, and i'll be first to admit its a horrible place, its a really terrible goverment, and even we are having issues at the moment with this free speech stuff, but at least its being attempted here.
As for the second point, you cant really wave your right to the 1st amendment here, not in this sort of context anyway. Being able to do so would render it more or less useless. "you wave your right to your 1st amendment rights by utilizing the given "FREE SPEECH ZONE" of your choice." sort of BS would be allowable then, rendering it useless.
I think Apple's reply was "we have never ever heard of Prism, and nobody gets any data without court issued subpoena
Just wanted to point out...
Apple wouldn't need to be aware of Prism, Prism goes after the network providers, Verison, AT&T, etc.
Its a smaller vector of attack, if they had to go after every single phone manufacturer they'd have a much harder time getting everything.
Google is aware of it because Google is not just involved in Android, they're also the largest internet search provider on the planet. Again, small vectors, they dont go after the ISPs, they go after the search providers.
That means six lefts make an airplane.
and oddly enough takes you back the way you came.
Given how this system works, how on earth do you 'rent' a game for this system?
They've managed to put a rifle to the head of rental companies and pulled the trigger until the clip went click. No rentals when the system locks games to specific machines like this.
The great part is you're right, life will go on.
What morons like you seem to miss is, its not a given that human beings will be able to survive. So yeah, I guess you're right, if you dont mind possibly killing off the entire human race.
While true in theory, what ends up happening is you call to cancle because of the breach of contract, and you get yelled at and treated badly by their 'customer service' for 3-4 hours as you escilate up the chain trying to terminate your now null and void contract without paying the ETF, over 61 cents a month.
Most people will just cave and either switch once the plan is over, or not bother switching at all, because the hassel of getting these jerks to do what is legal and right will end up costing you half a days wage when you take them to small-claims court to get it overturned by a judge because they dont even bother showing up in court.
Oh but dont worry, if you DONT pay the ETF and ignore it, they'll send you to collections, where when you dispute the charge, will get added to your credit rating and affect you for the next 10 years or 7 years or whatever the hell it is, even after you get them to agree that the charges were wrong, unless you spend even more time writing letters and sending lawsuit judgement letters to the credit agencies to get it cleaned up. Even then, might not work.
Companies need to get slapped across the face when they pull this crud, individuals are unable to fight this kind of stuff without sacrificing more than what its going to end up costing them if they just put with it, which is of course excatly why AT&T and their kin do this kind of thing.
Clearly the only answer to this problem is to declare hurricanes a terrorist organization, let the US Military take over the NOAA fully for national security reasons and launch enough weather satellites into orbit that their combined blockage of the sun counter-acts global warming, which is causing them to get steadily stronger as time goes by.
This lets the Republicans continue to massivly overspend on the US Military for poinless reasons, and gives the Democrats a win as the War Against Global Warming, while still managing to screw the average american public with overspending and higher taxes as we blast huge amounts of chinese-made weather satelites into orbit.
Ok you can all calm down now, you're both evil.
So provide a link in the file description to your website where they can download the file. There, that was hard.
You cant just, in a position like what Microsoft is in, work around the TOS of another website because you dont much care for it. If I tried to do that to Microsoft you can be pretty sure i'd find myself in court. So how is this any different? If they're all about not having restricted access then that's awsome, so...lets see them follow through when the shoe is on the other foot.
Otherwise, this is all just a bunch of BS as they try to paint Google as a bad guy because they do what Microsoft is also doing, and that's clearly not fair...right?
http://xkcd.com/1102/
Yup...fastest growing...
They did, it's called Minecraft, it's all the craze.
I refuse to go outside though, the creepers man...freak me out.
Set some rate, say a 5%...
...negotiate/litigate among themselves on how to divide up that 3%
You work in Hollywood accounting, dont you? Somehow I dont object to this.
So do you support the notion that nobody should be allowed to take photo's in a public place then? What about a drawing? Can I draw what's happening in a public place?
Just walking along, if I nab a picture of you, it's no longer forgotten. Same deal if I draw it, yet since it's a public place, i'd argue there are full rights to do such things in public. Unless of course you'd like to pass a law saying any recording of any public space is to now be illegal, but that doesn't seem to support your position any better.
People shouldn't oppose this because its an invasion of privacy as the GP hinted at. People should be opposing this because it's wrong, and its not going to be used to 'prevent crime'. It's going to be used to prevent people from exercising their rights to protest, and organize in a peaceful group. Your thoughts on 'privacy' only work to confuse the issue enough to let this sort of garbage get through.
Do you have a right to tell someone else where they're allowed to use their cell phone?
Should you?
Way I see it, I dont have a problem with physical shielding to prevent cellphone use. Jammers however are problematic because they are not restricted to your physical premis.
If you, as a company/owner/whatever wish to block RF and prevent cellphone use, i'm cool with that. But if you install a jammer and it affects someone who's standing on the curb outfront your building, you're now in violation and should get taken to court over it. I dont have the right to tell you what you must do on your own property, much as you dont have the right to tell me what I cant do on public property.
Means jammers could never work, unless the building was already jamming singals passively, thus removing the need for a jammer from within the building anyway.
How about they actually answered to FOIA request?
Useless as it is, atleast it's a response. This started when Bush was in office from what I understand. They never even bothered to respond.
"Honey can you pass the Lithium deuteride?"
"You know you shouldn't eat that stuff so much hon, it's bad for your heart. Remember what the doctor said..."
"Yeah yeah, I know it gives me bad hydrogen gas, but it tastes so good!"
Why not? They're not that different from space ships in many ways.
Both must keep high pressure and low pressure areas seperate and protected from one another. Both must supply the crew with life support functions and the ability to communicate. Sure keeping the ocean out vs keeping the atmosphere in is different, but thats a structual question, functionally it's pretty similar.
By far the largest difference is a sub doesn't have a weight limit anywhere near as strict as a space ship, but that's more of a technology and material science issue. I could see someone who built submarines having some insight into how to build a space ship.
It's counter-intuitive if you're unaware of the theory of reealitivity.
So....is it safe to say their joke bombed?
No? Hey, let me go!
Just because it's not intuitive doesn't mean it's not true.
Plenty of people already pointed out how this works above, try reading sometime, you can learn some amazing things.
This is already possible, Google Glass or no.
Hyperbole? Yes. It's also idiotic. "Unwritten rule" really? They make cameras now that are so small they can be woven into a coat and you'd never know it's there. You should be acting as if you're on camera anywhere you go already, since its rather likely you are, even if you dont already know it. Calling out Google Glass on the possiblity only shows you're inability to see through your own idiocy.
If you have a problem with this, you have a problem with Technology as a whole. Go live in a cave if it makes you feel safe, the rest of us will happily move on without you. I dont even have interest in Google Glass (honestly I dont see the point) but that doesn't mean I fear it like a beaten dog fears its abusive master. The heck is wrong with you people?
Then I hope you dont own a phone, a tablet, a PC, or any other eletronic device that could later be updated to do something terrible!
Sorta like arguing we shouldn't pass a law that says it's ok for gay people to get married "because it might later get extended to cover beastialty and people getting married to toads!". It's an absurd argument, you cant actually find something faulty so instead you invent something that 'could' happen and then attack it with that. Better outlaw the car, someone could buy one then change out the tires for ones with long razor blades and replace the hood with cast iron spikes and go on a rampage! oh the horror!
Nobody kills in the name of Zeus anymore because they got killed off by all the other people killing them in the name of some other random god-like figure. Time only seems to make it worse.
I dont think people oppose that because the person found guilty might suffer discomfort. I think people oppose it because you're killing them. I think a lot of people find killing someone wrong, and dont feel that killing someone is right. So they're looking for excuses, not saying what they're saying is right or wrong, just saying it as it is.
I suspect that this ammendment was written this way on purpuse. What is "Crule and Unusual" to them is not the same as to us, and the document was ment to pass the test of time (if possible).
That said, I'd consider this punishment pretty minor, only because i'd consider the crime commited as significantly harsher. This young man attempted to kill everyone on that plane. You could maybe say unintentional manslaughter but the end result is, if he had blinded the pilot, that plane wouldn't have come back down in a single peice. It was putting the lives of everyone onboard at risk. He maybe didn't intend to do that, having been a fool and not thought through what he was doing...but if I run over someone by mistake in my Car, i'm still charged with killing that person. Same should apply here.
Didn't you get the memo? This is the US of A, around these parts we're expected to be fully engaged for a solid 8 hours (including breaks and lunches) in our work. Longer if you're salaried, because that means legally they now own you and every moment of your conscious being. This includes reserving the right to wake you from unconsciousness without warning to call you into the office (and you'd best think about what you need to do once you get to work, on the way to work.)
Err...Yes, data centers use eletricity. And they pay for it, just like everyone else does. And that includes taxes on said energy. As for parking lots and air...well the land is taxed so there's your parking lot, and air...umm...well we do charge companies taxes for pollution and tax incentives to cut pollution, but nobody actually 'pays' for air.
Not very clear how Roads and Healthcare play into an internet/software tax, but these are also paid for, by things like gas taxes and however you choose to pay for healthcare currently.
Why is there always someone like YOU in every crowd who feels that everyone else should pay for things? If gas taxes are not covering the costs of road repair for example...we should be taxing more for it. You dont just invent stuff to tax to pay for other things, unless you're an idiot. Thease places give back in the same way as every other company gives back, through taxes and employment. As usual, the idiots in goverment (and idiots like you who vote for them from the looks of it) are just going to drive companies to other places, negating any tax benifits they would have gained, AND losing what they're already getting.
Herp derp.