Using a clean windows machine to fix an infected windows drive isn't all that smart in the first place. This is an area where live disks excel, Knoppix being the obvious first choice...not to mention the many variants with more specialized tools added on. You're running a different OS, its running off of read-only media, and you're risking essentially nothing.
I emphatically second that. I reformatted the desktop and dual booted it with a stock XP disk and Suse a year or two ago. Suse auto-detected and configured my nic, sound, video cards, everything was up and runningpretty much out of the box. XP couldn't get the nic or sound working in the integrated mobo without a windows update...obviously hard without the nic:) And even after that, those drivers seem to be a little buggy...nic occaisonly doesn't work on boot, same with the sound. God knows whats going on, I've booted into Windows so little on that box that I don't care...and the silly problems are part of the reason why.
Without question, if PC's were suddenly required to be sold OS-less and users were required to buy and install one themselves, you'd see a LOT of people switching to desktop friendly OS's like Suse and Ubuntu.
You know, Slack was actually what got me to switch from Windows in the first place. I got fed up with Windows, and started trying different Linux and BSD distros. Slackware was the first thing that I was able to get installed and up and running with most everything working properly on my hardware.
I honestly don't think its a hard install at all, for anyone with a slight clue about computers. If you've never even installed Windows yourself, you're going to have issues...otherwise, its not bad. And theres always things like Suse to fill the void for those that like pretty wizards.
A better example of your complaint would be OpenBSD. Nobody is going to make it through their installer without a pretty decent background in computers. Absolutely NO handholding...which is why people advocate it for heavy duty firewalls, not a desktop platform for Grandma.
I second this, most everything I run, runs slack. The laptop(primary workstation), two fileservers, and a shell/irc box running splack. Non-x86 stuff is unfortunately where slack is weakest...I run splack, but its defintly not the best sparc port out there. NetBSD and Debian are both better choices for the normal non-slack obsessed. Slamd64 is pretty nice, but other ports seem to be a bit less reliable. Of course thats noones fault but yours and mine...we should both be contributing to splack, it needs it!
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Its worth learning to at least get by in Vi, because it is _always_ there on a *nix box.
I first forced myself to learn its commands after doing a very slim Solaris 8 install and having network problems. The ONLY text editor there was Vi, and if i wanted to edit some config files and get the network up so I could install something else, I was going to need to use Vi to do it;)
Even if you prefer to use something else, it is very wise to learn at least the basic Vi commands, or else you risk getting yourself into a bind like mine...or even worse, doing it in front of a client who looks at you very strangely when you tell them you're capable of working on their UNIX servers...but never bothered to learn Vi.
My solution was to run SmartDashboard within win2k in Vmware in Linux. If you sprung for Checkpoint, Vmware is peanuts. And of course there is qemu, which has worked wonderfully for me so far, although i haven't tried Checkpoint stuff in it as of yet.
FreeDOS does not come installed, it comes on a seperate disk. Dell is very clear that they are not supporting FreeDOS.
I recall reading when they first offered this a year or so ago, that offering FreeDOS disks really just had to do with some sort of loophole they were exploiting in their contract with MS. This was the closest they could get to selling a box with no OS. Why they can't just include Linux or a BSD I'm not really sure, but I'm sure they would include one of those unless there was a good reason not to. Including FreeDOS instead adds much less value to the product then Linux or a BSD would, so in marketing terms its illogical. It has to be a legal issue.
That might be true for you, its not true for every place. I worked for a survery place once, and it randomly generated a new pool of numbers to call for each survey. People could ask to be taken off our list, and we would...but that only meant i wouldn't call them again about that particular survey.
I would be surprised if many telemarketing firms didn't employ similar tricks
I recall Eddie Brock being an avid bodybuilder in the comics. The "suit"(well, symbiote) didn't make him big, he was just a big dude. You'll notice that other people wearing the suit didn't just grow...it was like a second skin. Spiderman had the same suit for a while and was his normal spidey size.
In short, while hes a great actor, it seems like ridiculous casting. Brock/Venom were fairly one-dimensional anyways, you'd think it wouldn't be hard to find someone more fitting to play the role. The other movies were all good though, I have faith that they've got _something_ interesting planned.
I'm a Slackware user myself for the most part(stupidly easy upgrades btw, i run the -current branch with few issues), but I recall that apt-get in Debian actually does support grabbing source and compiling it. Not sure if theres a provision for feeding it your own flags, but i'd imagine so, or why bother?
I still haven't found anything that Gentoo would do for me that any BSD can't already do. Unless a particular situation required a Linux kernel, as opposed to just some common piece of software like Apache or BIND, I'd pick a BSD anyday for that. And of course, if I want a nice source-based BSD-derived package system with a Linux kernel, theres always NetBSD's pkgsrc on Slackware. I'll readily admit however that installing Gentoo is going to be easier for most people than setting up pkgsrc+slack would be. I'd personally love to see someone build a distro around slack and pkgsrc, with a nice simple installer. One wonders why the Gentoo people didn't do something like this in the first place, but I'm sure they had their reasons.
Root passwords should not have to be entered often, so this should come as a shock to the user of a good distro.
I haven't used a version of linux or BSD yet that didn't require the root password to install software, which is a far from seldom occurrence.
Linux is far from bulletproof. We are all going to have a rude awakening if and when it gains more desktop marketshare. The biggest problem securing any piece of software is still the user, in any OS.
I'm not sure if this neccesarily helps your situation but i saw this the other day, http://go-mono.com/asp-net.html. Its an Apache module from the Mono people: ASP.net in Apache:)
I'm not sure if that would have helped you, but felt it worth mentioning in case you hadn't heard of it.
when i say "printer" i'm referring to the people printing, not the hardware itself;)
These people tend to be mac-centric, and expect to see a quark, pagemaker, or indesign file. PDFs work, and some people will accept publisher, but grumble about it
I have _been_ one of those people, i worked graphic design at a half-dozen shops. The average person there would throw up their hands at a LaTeX file. Unless the place is used to publishing scientific documents, they've probably never heard of it.
Feel free to join us at #ohiolinux on irc.oftc.net, or sign up for the mailing list on the webpage and keep in contact with others going to the event. There will be lots of people coming into town for the weekend, I'm sure we can arrange meetups before the convention as well.
Hm, I'm from NE Ohio, but I am aware of quite a bit going on in Columbus. Do you realize that you have a Linux Users Group http://www.colug.net/, a Perl Mongers group http://columbus.pm.org/ the Ohio Super Computer Center http://www.osc.edu/, a 2600 chapter http://cbus2600.org/ and all kinds of events that roll through town...like Ohio Linux Fest, which is in its third year.
I've many times wished I was down in Columbus instead of here in Youngstown. I formed my own LUG http://www.youngstownlug.com/ after a year of driving to Akron and Cleveland for their various groups.
In short, you've got all kinds of great stuff right in your backyard that some of us would love to have.
As far as the state in general, there are FOURTEEN LUGs, Notacon http://notacon.org/ which happens every year up in Cleveland, and more Linux jobs then you would belive. Go do a few searches on the internet. I've come across dozens of places hiring Linux programmers and administrators. I know dozens of associates from various LUGs around the state whop make a living using Linux.
Ohio is using a lot more OSS than anyone, including some of its own resident geeks, realize. One of the goals of Ohio Linux Fest is to try and bring all of these people together and make them realize that there _are_ things happening in this state. And believe me...there are:)
FOURTEEN LUGS!!! I couldn't believe it myself, but i found this out when doing research to help promote Linuxfest
2600 groups, Perl Mongers groups, Snort Users groups...all kinds of other assorted user groups.
Countless amounts of businesses based around OSS. Pantek http://pantek.com/, Hurricane Labs http://hurricanelabs.com/, N2Net http://n2net.net/, several of our sponsors rely on OSS for their core business, and give quite a bit back to the community.
Just all kinds of stuff, especially in central and northeast Ohio. I used to hate it here, and a little googling has left me with more monthly and yearly events to go to then i know what to do with!
To be fair, this is partially because people love to shoehorn word proccessors(like word) into any application that requires typing text. Word is a pretty bad enabler at this too, by piling features on left and right, making a user think they really can write anything in Word.
A publication like a book is meant to be laid out in, you guessed it, a layout program. Pagemaker, Quark, Indesign, Scribus, even MS Publisher are the kinds of things the professionals use, and are the kinds of formats the printers ultimately expect to receive. For technical publications, LaTeX can work fantastically as well, assuming your printer can handle it.
Word is not designed to handle several hundred page documents. An associate of mine once had a publisher stupidly require that his book be submitted in Word format. He had many stories to tell: things like the spellcheck no longer working after the first hundred pages or so...and not notifying you of it.
I highly reccomend you suggest any of the aforementioned layout programs to your colleagues. While several are pretty pricey, both Scribus and LaTeX are OSS, and if they are at a university, chances are they have one of the Adobe products available. Believe me, it is a LOT easier to get those equations lined up where you want them in a program actually designed to do it
This is America, and when you buy something for your own use, you are allowed to personally do whatever you want with it.
Thats a very vague statement, and certainly not the law in a great deal of situations here in America
Obvious examples: handguns, automobiles, prescription drugs, non-prescription drugs, alcohol, lockpicks, forged currency, real currency, books...I can go on.
I agree with your belief about DRM. Just not the poor argument you've chosen to defend that belief
Google Earth isn't even THEIR PRODUCT, they bought it, that's not innovation therefor it can't drive their peak higher, that said what the heck is it even good for, I'd file it under GAME.
I wonder what kind of qualifications it is exactly that one needs to be one of their "Blog Reporters"...
Oh, and the google talk backend is Jabber, as I'm sure you're aware. Jabber can act as an intermediary with other protocols, including the ones used by AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc. If they are smart, they will make use of these features and advertise single sign-on for all services...this has the potential to be a lot less cludgy than gaim.
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I was under the impression that it was FreeBSD.
Using a clean windows machine to fix an infected windows drive isn't all that smart in the first place. This is an area where live disks excel, Knoppix being the obvious first choice...not to mention the many variants with more specialized tools added on. You're running a different OS, its running off of read-only media, and you're risking essentially nothing.
Kudos to you. If more people did the same, it would likely have a fairly significant impact on the problem.
Without question, if PC's were suddenly required to be sold OS-less and users were required to buy and install one themselves, you'd see a LOT of people switching to desktop friendly OS's like Suse and Ubuntu.
I honestly don't think its a hard install at all, for anyone with a slight clue about computers. If you've never even installed Windows yourself, you're going to have issues...otherwise, its not bad. And theres always things like Suse to fill the void for those that like pretty wizards.
A better example of your complaint would be OpenBSD. Nobody is going to make it through their installer without a pretty decent background in computers. Absolutely NO handholding...which is why people advocate it for heavy duty firewalls, not a desktop platform for Grandma.
I second this, most everything I run, runs slack. The laptop(primary workstation), two fileservers, and a shell/irc box running splack. Non-x86 stuff is unfortunately where slack is weakest...I run splack, but its defintly not the best sparc port out there. NetBSD and Debian are both better choices for the normal non-slack obsessed. Slamd64 is pretty nice, but other ports seem to be a bit less reliable. Of course thats noones fault but yours and mine...we should both be contributing to splack, it needs it!
slack manages packages just fine.
I first forced myself to learn its commands after doing a very slim Solaris 8 install and having network problems. The ONLY text editor there was Vi, and if i wanted to edit some config files and get the network up so I could install something else, I was going to need to use Vi to do it ;)
Even if you prefer to use something else, it is very wise to learn at least the basic Vi commands, or else you risk getting yourself into a bind like mine...or even worse, doing it in front of a client who looks at you very strangely when you tell them you're capable of working on their UNIX servers...but never bothered to learn Vi.
Are you planning to run Xen on your laptop? Thats really not what its ideal target is. Its main goal seems to be server virtualization.
My solution was to run SmartDashboard within win2k in Vmware in Linux. If you sprung for Checkpoint, Vmware is peanuts. And of course there is qemu, which has worked wonderfully for me so far, although i haven't tried Checkpoint stuff in it as of yet.
I recall reading when they first offered this a year or so ago, that offering FreeDOS disks really just had to do with some sort of loophole they were exploiting in their contract with MS. This was the closest they could get to selling a box with no OS. Why they can't just include Linux or a BSD I'm not really sure, but I'm sure they would include one of those unless there was a good reason not to. Including FreeDOS instead adds much less value to the product then Linux or a BSD would, so in marketing terms its illogical. It has to be a legal issue.
I would be surprised if many telemarketing firms didn't employ similar tricks
In short, while hes a great actor, it seems like ridiculous casting. Brock/Venom were fairly one-dimensional anyways, you'd think it wouldn't be hard to find someone more fitting to play the role. The other movies were all good though, I have faith that they've got _something_ interesting planned.
I'm a Slackware user myself for the most part(stupidly easy upgrades btw, i run the -current branch with few issues), but I recall that apt-get in Debian actually does support grabbing source and compiling it. Not sure if theres a provision for feeding it your own flags, but i'd imagine so, or why bother?
I still haven't found anything that Gentoo would do for me that any BSD can't already do. Unless a particular situation required a Linux kernel, as opposed to just some common piece of software like Apache or BIND, I'd pick a BSD anyday for that. And of course, if I want a nice source-based BSD-derived package system with a Linux kernel, theres always NetBSD's pkgsrc on Slackware. I'll readily admit however that installing Gentoo is going to be easier for most people than setting up pkgsrc+slack would be. I'd personally love to see someone build a distro around slack and pkgsrc, with a nice simple installer. One wonders why the Gentoo people didn't do something like this in the first place, but I'm sure they had their reasons.
I haven't used a version of linux or BSD yet that didn't require the root password to install software, which is a far from seldom occurrence.
Linux is far from bulletproof. We are all going to have a rude awakening if and when it gains more desktop marketshare. The biggest problem securing any piece of software is still the user, in any OS.
I'm not sure if that would have helped you, but felt it worth mentioning in case you hadn't heard of it.
These people tend to be mac-centric, and expect to see a quark, pagemaker, or indesign file. PDFs work, and some people will accept publisher, but grumble about it
I have _been_ one of those people, i worked graphic design at a half-dozen shops. The average person there would throw up their hands at a LaTeX file. Unless the place is used to publishing scientific documents, they've probably never heard of it.
Feel free to join us at #ohiolinux on irc.oftc.net, or sign up for the mailing list on the webpage and keep in contact with others going to the event. There will be lots of people coming into town for the weekend, I'm sure we can arrange meetups before the convention as well.
I've many times wished I was down in Columbus instead of here in Youngstown. I formed my own LUG http://www.youngstownlug.com/ after a year of driving to Akron and Cleveland for their various groups.
In short, you've got all kinds of great stuff right in your backyard that some of us would love to have.
As far as the state in general, there are FOURTEEN LUGs, Notacon http://notacon.org/ which happens every year up in Cleveland, and more Linux jobs then you would belive. Go do a few searches on the internet. I've come across dozens of places hiring Linux programmers and administrators. I know dozens of associates from various LUGs around the state whop make a living using Linux.
Ohio is using a lot more OSS than anyone, including some of its own resident geeks, realize. One of the goals of Ohio Linux Fest is to try and bring all of these people together and make them realize that there _are_ things happening in this state. And believe me...there are- Notacon http://notacon.org/ - annual hacker/art/technology convention in Cleveland
- Hamvention http://hamvention.org/ - Annual HAM radio festival in Dayton
- Ohio Linux Fest http://ohiolinux.org/- well, you already know about this one
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- FOURTEEN LUGS!!! I couldn't believe it myself, but i found this out when doing research to help promote Linuxfest
- 2600 groups, Perl Mongers groups, Snort Users groups...all kinds of other assorted user groups.
- Countless amounts of businesses based around OSS. Pantek http://pantek.com/, Hurricane Labs http://hurricanelabs.com/, N2Net http://n2net.net/, several of our sponsors rely on OSS for their core business, and give quite a bit back to the community.
Just all kinds of stuff, especially in central and northeast Ohio. I used to hate it here, and a little googling has left me with more monthly and yearly events to go to then i know what to do with!heh, well problem is most of the rest of us work during the week :/
its a month away...request off! ;)
no, i'm not kidding. Be at the after party ;)
A publication like a book is meant to be laid out in, you guessed it, a layout program. Pagemaker, Quark, Indesign, Scribus, even MS Publisher are the kinds of things the professionals use, and are the kinds of formats the printers ultimately expect to receive. For technical publications, LaTeX can work fantastically as well, assuming your printer can handle it.
Word is not designed to handle several hundred page documents. An associate of mine once had a publisher stupidly require that his book be submitted in Word format. He had many stories to tell: things like the spellcheck no longer working after the first hundred pages or so...and not notifying you of it.
I highly reccomend you suggest any of the aforementioned layout programs to your colleagues. While several are pretty pricey, both Scribus and LaTeX are OSS, and if they are at a university, chances are they have one of the Adobe products available. Believe me, it is a LOT easier to get those equations lined up where you want them in a program actually designed to do it
The right tool for every job.
Thats a very vague statement, and certainly not the law in a great deal of situations here in America
Obvious examples: handguns, automobiles, prescription drugs, non-prescription drugs, alcohol, lockpicks, forged currency, real currency, books...I can go on.
I agree with your belief about DRM. Just not the poor argument you've chosen to defend that belief
I wonder what kind of qualifications it is exactly that one needs to be one of their "Blog Reporters"...
Oh, and the google talk backend is Jabber, as I'm sure you're aware. Jabber can act as an intermediary with other protocols, including the ones used by AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc. If they are smart, they will make use of these features and advertise single sign-on for all services...this has the potential to be a lot less cludgy than gaim.