Did you know that you can find the locations of some of these projects, by searching for SSIDs? Also, if you know part of the MAC address (for the vendor), and the location, you can pair it down, and see maps of their coverage. Of course, this is all from wardriving data, uploaded by our users -- go out and wardrive!
Now we can do location and positioning with a potential high degree of acuracy.
like I noticed, tho, with my recent $20 purchase of the p5 glove, the technology may be there, but where are the applications? Aren't there developers out there, unemployed?
WiFiMaps.com is taking a stab at the location based computing, any interested developers out there?
Burglars could wardrive for the best equipment, and hit specified houses. Great idea, but I would think that a wired alternative, like the existing coax you already use, might be the better choice.
With handhelds, tho, this makes a bit of sense -- play your Sony Walkman through your stereo when you walk in from the car, for example. Aren't toys wonderful?
Three WiFiMaps.com laptop stickers go to the uploader of the most Microsoft-brand MAC addresses durring the worldwidewardrive. Upload your wardriving results to WiFiMaps.com.
Any wardrivers out there? It would be nice to check out the place. We don't have any wardriving data uploaded from our users at WiFiMaps.com. Wonder how quickly wardrivers can band together, and observe things like this.
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How do they get a position from wi-fi? Do they have a database of Wi-Fi access-point locations? We do, and we're planning on publishing this via xml as soon as we figure out how!
Get ready for the World Wide Wardrive, in June. This is a coordinated effort to wardrive everywhere, and collect statistics. Be sure to upload your scans, and check your results at WiFiMaps.com.
With so many different rf ranges available for potential IP traffic, how do we cover all bands?
I'm psyched that there are so many options available to us, b, g, a. It's nice to see so many unintended uses.
Welcome to the future!
Try following traffic laws. Seriously. You'd be amazed at how well the universe keeps from collapsing on itself when one follows the speed limit, signals lane changes, and maintains adequate braking distance.
Try following traffic laws in Boston durring rush hour, and you're sure to: A) stay right where you are and not be able to move FOR HOURS, B) have angry drivers honk their horns and scream obscenities at you, and C) have angry drivers violate many many more traffic laws trying to get arround you.
I think that roads are designed to allow vehicles to travel from one point to another. Lots of municipalities miss this compmletely, thinking that roads are to store people and their cars -- this is not the case!
If there are places where kids play, and podestrians frequent, there's no wonder the roads should NOT have speeders, but then again, in dense places, people on foot should not be directed onto busy streets, so there's more engineering and thought that needs to go into the road designs that I have seen implimented.
Perhaps some of us with unlimited local calling, might allow VOIP users to call locally using their lines -- within specified limits, I would assume. This makes sense, but I can't imagine the telcos, or internet-providers would allow it. Certainly turns telecom on it's ear, so to speak.
So, I figure that it's in Microsoft's best interests to release the source-code, and claim that it's "leaked". The idea, is that this will offload some of the work from their QA department, as they can do a google search for "leaked microsoft source code", and see reviews, comments, and potential fixes.
I shouldn't be posting at work, but I got this in my email from Tom:
Something else I thought of regarding the "legality of
war-driving" issue: when you start a new wireless connection it scans for
wireless networks in the area and asks you which one you want to connect to.
This sounds just like war driving. So if war driving is illegal then
hundreds of thousands of people everyday are breaking the law every time
they setup a new wireless connection. Doesn't seem likely to me. Just a
thought.
While there is a difference between portscanning, and wardriving, I believe the meaning of what he's trying to say is still the same -- wardriving is okay, lest you access networks which you are not authorized to use.
Perhaps in the future I can interview a lawyer who's up on these issues, as well as some researchers.
Also, the NCFTA is at http://www.ncfta.net. I got some really great clips about their work with SPAM, but they weren't quite relevant to the show, unfortunately.
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Did you know that you can find the locations of some of these projects, by searching for SSIDs? Also, if you know part of the MAC address (for the vendor), and the location, you can pair it down, and see maps of their coverage. Of course, this is all from wardriving data, uploaded by our users -- go out and wardrive!
Now we can do location and positioning with a potential high degree of acuracy.
like I noticed, tho, with my recent $20 purchase of the p5 glove, the technology may be there, but where are the applications? Aren't there developers out there, unemployed?
WiFiMaps.com is taking a stab at the location based computing, any interested developers out there?
Burglars could wardrive for the best equipment, and hit specified houses. Great idea, but I would think that a wired alternative, like the existing coax you already use, might be the better choice. With handhelds, tho, this makes a bit of sense -- play your Sony Walkman through your stereo when you walk in from the car, for example. Aren't toys wonderful?
Three WiFiMaps.com laptop stickers go to the uploader of the most Microsoft-brand MAC addresses durring the worldwidewardrive. Upload your wardriving results to WiFiMaps.com.
Any wardrivers out there? It would be nice to check out the place. We don't have any wardriving data uploaded from our users at WiFiMaps.com. Wonder how quickly wardrivers can band together, and observe things like this.
I had a fun time wardriving with Lord Hector and Umut after the 80211-planet.com in Philadelphia a while back. Wardriving is definitely a neat way to explore a new City (or even one's home town). We have the data we collected posted at WiFiMaps.com.
You're missing 30 layers of complexity, and marketing drivel.
This totally gives new meaning to wardriving.
How do they get a position from wi-fi? Do they have a database of Wi-Fi access-point locations? We do, and we're planning on publishing this via xml as soon as we figure out how!
There's an interesting concept, wardriving for radio.
Get ready for the World Wide Wardrive, in June. This is a coordinated effort to wardrive everywhere, and collect statistics. Be sure to upload your scans, and check your results at WiFiMaps.com.
wardrivers say , and the FBI also says there aren't any known issues. Of course, I'm biased, since I not only wardrive, but operate a location based wi-fi site. Be ready for The World Wide Wardrive coming-up in June!
"It's been a long road..."
I can see where this is going -- wardrive everything.
With so many different rf ranges available for potential IP traffic, how do we cover all bands? I'm psyched that there are so many options available to us, b, g, a. It's nice to see so many unintended uses. Welcome to the future!
Try following traffic laws. Seriously. You'd be amazed at how well the universe keeps from collapsing on itself when one follows the speed limit, signals lane changes, and maintains adequate braking distance.
Try following traffic laws in Boston durring rush hour, and you're sure to: A) stay right where you are and not be able to move FOR HOURS, B) have angry drivers honk their horns and scream obscenities at you, and C) have angry drivers violate many many more traffic laws trying to get arround you.
I think that roads are designed to allow vehicles to travel from one point to another. Lots of municipalities miss this compmletely, thinking that roads are to store people and their cars -- this is not the case!
If there are places where kids play, and podestrians frequent, there's no wonder the roads should NOT have speeders, but then again, in dense places, people on foot should not be directed onto busy streets, so there's more engineering and thought that needs to go into the road designs that I have seen implimented.
Perhaps some of us with unlimited local calling, might allow VOIP users to call locally using their lines -- within specified limits, I would assume. This makes sense, but I can't imagine the telcos, or internet-providers would allow it. Certainly turns telecom on it's ear, so to speak.
Especially if you can locate places to make VOIP calls from, or zones where this is allowed.
your MAC (00:30:BD:9C:BD:B2) wasn't listed in our database wifimaps.com, WiGLE doesn't seem to be operational, or I'd do a search there too.
So, I figure that it's in Microsoft's best interests to release the source-code, and claim that it's "leaked". The idea, is that this will offload some of the work from their QA department, as they can do a google search for "leaked microsoft source code", and see reviews, comments, and potential fixes.
Location Based Wi-Fi
Glad that thing isn't anywhere near us, I still have things to do before close of business today! Ooph! Time to go! Location Based WiFi
Vacation is the distance between jobs.
Location Based WiFi
I shouldn't be posting at work, but I got this in my email from Tom:
Something else I thought of regarding the "legality of war-driving" issue: when you start a new wireless connection it scans for wireless networks in the area and asks you which one you want to connect to. This sounds just like war driving. So if war driving is illegal then hundreds of thousands of people everyday are breaking the law every time they setup a new wireless connection. Doesn't seem likely to me. Just a thought.
While there is a difference between portscanning, and wardriving, I believe the meaning of what he's trying to say is still the same -- wardriving is okay, lest you access networks which you are not authorized to use.
Perhaps in the future I can interview a lawyer who's up on these issues, as well as some researchers.
Also, the NCFTA is at http://www.ncfta.net. I got some really great clips about their work with SPAM, but they weren't quite relevant to the show, unfortunately.
Location Based WiFi
Think wireless cameras would be an interesting thing to look-up on a Map? Check out http://www.wifimaps.com, and let us know.
Any one handed keyboards, like the twiddler? They use these for the MIThril wearable project. Some modification required. Location-Based Wi-Fi