"We can't create a culture that says it cares about diversity and then excludes almost half the country because they back a political candidate,"
When Brendan Eich was ousted from Mozilla, it was for his private backing of California Proposition 8, which won the backing of over 52% of California voters. By the hateful logic of Mr. Eich's detractors, the entire State of California should've been boycotted by the freedom-loving web-sites until the State purged their thought-criminals.
Yeah, but that would come with an actual *cost*. In the same way, they should quit using Eich's work, particularly the javascript language.
Remember, SJWs will do everything as long as it doesn't inconvenience them personally in any way.
You're kidding, right? The guy probably made more money on the TV show where he put "you're fired" into the American lexicon than he has in real estate. Why was he, of all people, the star of that show? Branding and marketing. It obviously wasn't his business acumen.
there is another bunch of knuckledraggers who think Hillary and Bernie are smarter than Trump.
It's actually quite obvious that the evil, lying manpig has a higher IQ than than the Angry Mullet... not that this necessarily matters (policy is clearly decided a lot higher up than in the White House) but I'll take whatever protections I can get.;)
I have no reason to believe that Hillary is smarter than Donald Trump (and I'm high IQ). Trump seems to be playing a character that appeals to a certain "base". Hillary doesn't really appeal to any base - the Democrats like her because she's bought and predictable. Sanders appeals to a base of mainly people who are terrible with math and understanding human nature.
Trump is a master at marketing and branding - look at his TV show. He's a chameleon who can be who he needs to be to win.
I'm not supporting the guy and have no plans of voting for any of them - they're all terrible people in their own unique ways. I just get tired of the standard Democrat lie that "Republicans are stupid and evil". It's not that I disagree with it, the lie is one of omission.
The sad thing is that there is a bunch of knuckledraggers out there that actually BELIEVE what you just said (even though you were trying to be funny).:/
Sadder yet is that there is another bunch of knuckledraggers who think Hillary and Bernie are smarter than Trump.
Indeed, because when I'm looking for credible recording, and not fakery and setup jobs, I always turn to James OKeefe. Gold standard in credibility right there.
In case you didn't notice, your "Podesta email" is from:
ilyse@moveon.org to: bigcampaign@googlegroups.com
The latter, is of course, a mailing list. A mailing list that we don't know whether the subscriber even actively read. In short, the "story" here is that MoveOn was staging anti-Trump protests. OMG, you don't say? I never knew that;)
Uh, yeah, Hillary. Let me guess, the Russians were behind it, too, right?
O'Keefe is irrelevant. Either they said what they said or they didn't, and they did. Quit trying to detract attention from the story. These people aren't doing anti-Trump protests - they're inciting and participating in violent acts and trying to make it look like Sanders and Trump supporters are doing it. It's odd the moveon.org would be spending money like this - I thought they were against using money in the political process?
I can't stand either one and won't vote for either one, but, geeze, I can't imagine what it would look like if Hillary were held to the same standard that Trump is.
Where does it say Trump is a racist or anti-Semite? You are spouting a non-sequitur. It does call the alt-right racist and anti-Semitic, which is of course true, but not Trump.
"Furie published a new Pepe cartoon on Monday detailing his "alt-right election nightmare," which depicts a sad Pepe morphing into a frog that resembles Donald Trump and then a monster."
Uh, that was hard?
I mean, I know we don't rtfa around here but that came from the summary.
Anyway, it's sad that they pretend that antisemitism is a disease of the right when it's a far-left/far-right issue. Donald Trump has nothing to do with it - ask Hillary where the capitol of Israel is.
(1) On reading reports of the transcripts on Fox news and CNN it's striking how moderate and sensible Mrs. Clinton's remarks are. If these transcripts are "news" I think they're good publicity for Mrs. Clinton.
Really? Because she doesn't think that or she would have released them herself. I find it far more interesting that Hillary has tried to keep these secret.
I'm surprised John Podesta hasn't been given a security audit by the campaign. Audit as in, replaced phone/email/computers with securely vetted stuff + had a security contractor audit and harden his accounts with better passwords/2factor/cleaning out cross referenced credentials.
These are people who can't be bothered with security when they're the Secretary of State for the USA - how much less do you think they'd care about the data for a political campaign?
And don't bother drooling out "but it's James O'Keefe". The guy either said they bus people around or he didn't. He did. O'Keefe didn't make him say it.
We all know it's going on, and we know that IDs help with the problem. They don't eliminate it, but they help. And there's one party doing that, by the way.
> Hard evidence proved voter fraud was a minor problem'
How can we HAVE hard evidence when it requires no ID to vote? You are aware that basically most of Europe requires ID to vote, right? Are they doing voter suppression?
Canada also has it. The *only* reason anyone would be opposed to requiring a valid ID to vote is that they know that people who can't legally vote are voting for their preferred candidate. I guarantee that if Latinos suddenly started voting for GOP candidates in droves this would suddenly become a bipartisan issue.
I almost misread it as "using consumer phones" and was really impressed that they were arming the drones with Samsung Galaxy Note 7s to explode on demand.
It's very convenient. In the old days you had to wire an explosive to the ringer so that it would blow up when you call it. Now, you just have to call it.
Okay, what does count as an attack in your mind? Is it OK with you if Russians hack into every financial institution you do business with and release the information? Your name, Social Security number, bank account identifiers, credit card numbers (including the security code on the back), just because they didn't have a Spetnatz (is that still the name?) detachment shoot you?
That's information that could be used for identify theft, it's a different story.
You know, I find it interesting how your side (weird, wait, I was able to guess which party you devotedly vote for in every election - how did I do that?) thinks that the release of some emails - nothing but emails - is the equivalent of committing acts of war. It's almost as if you're attempting to draw attention away from the content of the emails.
Does "vote by mail" require any sort of ID? If not, how on earth is this more secure than a ballot box?
In pretty much any kind of fraud, people are far less willing to show their face to any sort of authority. Fraud online or by mail is just much easier to work up the courage for.
What's going to stop $PARTY_YOU_HATE from mailing in thousands of ballots for people that didn't vote (the recently dead/felons, people they know directly that didn't vote, etc). When all you need is a name to forge a ballot, no risk to the fraudster, vote fraud will be epic.
Oddly, the party known for vote fraud seems to do quite well in Oregon.
The DNC supposedly got hacked, not the US government. The US government has absolutely no reason to offer *any* response.
If a Russian missile shoots down a Delta flight, I expect the US government to react. If a Russian torpedo sinks a US oil tanker, I expect the US government to react. What kind of strange world do you live in where state level actors only respond to threats by other state level actors if the threats are leveled against the state.
In your mind, could the Russian army invade the US without the US government reacting unless they crossed into federal land?
Because no harm was done to *anybody* except DWS. And she needed to go, anyway, given her level of incompetence.
Are you seriously comparing an airplane being shot down or an oil tanker being sunk to some internal emails from a political organization being leaked to the press?
The DNC supposedly got hacked, not the US government. The US government has absolutely no reason to offer *any* response. The DNC might get angry about it (and maybe they can use that to continue to try to change the story away from their internal corruption) but they're not the US government.
His current attitude toward women is quite poor, and this tape just demonstrates that he thinks his money makes sexual assault okay. Even his supporters, I think it was Giuliani on the radio this morning, didn't try to defend what he said. Instead the angle was that he has changed, gone from billionaire playboy to presidential candidate and he wouldn't do that stuff now, even though he describes his own daughter as a "piece of ass".
Okay. So, at worst, he's still better than Bill Clinton against whom there is a credible claim of rape. Hillary and her supporters don't seem to have a problem with that, so why would they care about Donald Trump's lifestyle?
I mean, by that logic, Slashdotters should be moderating Slashdot.
Seriously though, regulators, like bosses, need to have experience in their industries. Every week we boo and hiss at clueless legislators coming in and trying to regulate the Internet or ban encryption or somesuch. The challenge is finding 'insiders' who can still see things in a broader perspective and aren't in the pocket of the people they're supposed to be regulating (a.k.a. regulatory capture). They're tough to find, but if you look hard enough you can find good people like Tom Wheeler.
I've read through some of the emails and so far I haven't found anything damning, just politically inconvenient truths. It's sad we've become so accustomed to pandering and sugar-coated soundbytes that when politicians actually speak honestly it leaves us sour.
The problem is that the Democrats keep yelling about Republicans being the party of big business and all that, so this is supposedly a really big deal to them. Also, remember how they want to get corporate donations out of politics? I'm sure Lessig is just *furious* over this new information about the candidate that he'll vote for no matter what. Right? LOL! Yeah, right.
It's the same way that the Republican base has been telling us for decades now that being a good, upstanding moral Christian is the foundation for presidential qualifications. Then Donald Trump came along. Suddenly, not an issue.
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When Brendan Eich was ousted from Mozilla, it was for his private backing of California Proposition 8, which won the backing of over 52% of California voters. By the hateful logic of Mr. Eich's detractors, the entire State of California should've been boycotted by the freedom-loving web-sites until the State purged their thought-criminals.
Yeah, but that would come with an actual *cost*. In the same way, they should quit using Eich's work, particularly the javascript language.
Remember, SJWs will do everything as long as it doesn't inconvenience them personally in any way.
Master of marketing and branding?
He's a real estate mogul. Nearly all of his brands are pretty much failures outside of real estate.
http://www.internationalbusine...
You're kidding, right? The guy probably made more money on the TV show where he put "you're fired" into the American lexicon than he has in real estate. Why was he, of all people, the star of that show? Branding and marketing. It obviously wasn't his business acumen.
there is another bunch of knuckledraggers who think Hillary and Bernie are smarter than Trump.
It's actually quite obvious that the evil, lying manpig has a higher IQ than than the Angry Mullet... not that this necessarily matters (policy is clearly decided a lot higher up than in the White House) but I'll take whatever protections I can get. ;)
I have no reason to believe that Hillary is smarter than Donald Trump (and I'm high IQ). Trump seems to be playing a character that appeals to a certain "base". Hillary doesn't really appeal to any base - the Democrats like her because she's bought and predictable. Sanders appeals to a base of mainly people who are terrible with math and understanding human nature.
Trump is a master at marketing and branding - look at his TV show. He's a chameleon who can be who he needs to be to win.
I'm not supporting the guy and have no plans of voting for any of them - they're all terrible people in their own unique ways. I just get tired of the standard Democrat lie that "Republicans are stupid and evil". It's not that I disagree with it, the lie is one of omission.
The sad thing is that there is a bunch of knuckledraggers out there that actually BELIEVE what you just said (even though you were trying to be funny). :/
Sadder yet is that there is another bunch of knuckledraggers who think Hillary and Bernie are smarter than Trump.
Indeed, because when I'm looking for credible recording, and not fakery and setup jobs, I always turn to James OKeefe. Gold standard in credibility right there.
In case you didn't notice, your "Podesta email" is from:
ilyse@moveon.org
to:
bigcampaign@googlegroups.com
The latter, is of course, a mailing list. A mailing list that we don't know whether the subscriber even actively read. In short, the "story" here is that MoveOn was staging anti-Trump protests. OMG, you don't say? I never knew that ;)
Uh, yeah, Hillary. Let me guess, the Russians were behind it, too, right?
O'Keefe is irrelevant. Either they said what they said or they didn't, and they did. Quit trying to detract attention from the story. These people aren't doing anti-Trump protests - they're inciting and participating in violent acts and trying to make it look like Sanders and Trump supporters are doing it. It's odd the moveon.org would be spending money like this - I thought they were against using money in the political process?
I mean, it's open in the same way that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is "Democratic", "People's", and "Republic".
So, at worst he's as bad as Hillary?
I can't stand either one and won't vote for either one, but, geeze, I can't imagine what it would look like if Hillary were held to the same standard that Trump is.
Where does it say Trump is a racist or anti-Semite? You are spouting a non-sequitur. It does call the alt-right racist and anti-Semitic, which is of course true, but not Trump.
"Furie published a new Pepe cartoon on Monday detailing his "alt-right election nightmare," which depicts a sad Pepe morphing into a frog that resembles Donald Trump and then a monster."
Uh, that was hard?
I mean, I know we don't rtfa around here but that came from the summary.
Anyway, it's sad that they pretend that antisemitism is a disease of the right when it's a far-left/far-right issue. Donald Trump has nothing to do with it - ask Hillary where the capitol of Israel is.
Let me get this straight - they're going to try to tie Trump into this? The same Trump who is officially recognizing Jerusalem as the Israeli capitol?
It's sad the lengths the looney left has to go to to pretend the Trump is a racist, antisemite, whatever.
(1) On reading reports of the transcripts on Fox news and CNN it's striking how moderate and sensible Mrs. Clinton's remarks are. If these transcripts are "news" I think they're good publicity for Mrs. Clinton.
Really? Because she doesn't think that or she would have released them herself. I find it far more interesting that Hillary has tried to keep these secret.
since we're talking about it before it happens.
Uh, dude, they said to not say anything to the Russians about it. I know I'm not going to tattle, are you?
I'm surprised John Podesta hasn't been given a security audit by the campaign. Audit as in, replaced phone/email/computers with securely vetted stuff + had a security contractor audit and harden his accounts with better passwords/2factor/cleaning out cross referenced credentials.
These are people who can't be bothered with security when they're the Secretary of State for the USA - how much less do you think they'd care about the data for a political campaign?
For example:
http://projectveritas.com/2016...
And don't bother drooling out "but it's James O'Keefe". The guy either said they bus people around or he didn't. He did. O'Keefe didn't make him say it.
We all know it's going on, and we know that IDs help with the problem. They don't eliminate it, but they help. And there's one party doing that, by the way.
> Hard evidence proved voter fraud was a minor problem'
How can we HAVE hard evidence when it requires no ID to vote? You are aware that basically most of Europe requires ID to vote, right? Are they doing voter suppression?
Canada also has it. The *only* reason anyone would be opposed to requiring a valid ID to vote is that they know that people who can't legally vote are voting for their preferred candidate. I guarantee that if Latinos suddenly started voting for GOP candidates in droves this would suddenly become a bipartisan issue.
I almost misread it as "using consumer phones" and was really impressed that they were arming the drones with Samsung Galaxy Note 7s to explode on demand.
It's very convenient. In the old days you had to wire an explosive to the ringer so that it would blow up when you call it. Now, you just have to call it.
Okay, what does count as an attack in your mind? Is it OK with you if Russians hack into every financial institution you do business with and release the information? Your name, Social Security number, bank account identifiers, credit card numbers (including the security code on the back), just because they didn't have a Spetnatz (is that still the name?) detachment shoot you?
That's information that could be used for identify theft, it's a different story.
You know, I find it interesting how your side (weird, wait, I was able to guess which party you devotedly vote for in every election - how did I do that?) thinks that the release of some emails - nothing but emails - is the equivalent of committing acts of war. It's almost as if you're attempting to draw attention away from the content of the emails.
Nah, couldn't be.
Does "vote by mail" require any sort of ID? If not, how on earth is this more secure than a ballot box?
In pretty much any kind of fraud, people are far less willing to show their face to any sort of authority. Fraud online or by mail is just much easier to work up the courage for.
What's going to stop $PARTY_YOU_HATE from mailing in thousands of ballots for people that didn't vote (the recently dead/felons, people they know directly that didn't vote, etc). When all you need is a name to forge a ballot, no risk to the fraudster, vote fraud will be epic.
Oddly, the party known for vote fraud seems to do quite well in Oregon.
Recent efforts by some states to make it more difficult to vote
Um, no. It should read "Recent efforts by some states to make it more difficult for people who can't legally vote to vote..."
One wonders what the "proportional response" would be if it were the RNC that got hacked...
From Obama and friends? Laughter and high fives all around.
If a Russian missile shoots down a Delta flight, I expect the US government to react. If a Russian torpedo sinks a US oil tanker, I expect the US government to react. What kind of strange world do you live in where state level actors only respond to threats by other state level actors if the threats are leveled against the state.
In your mind, could the Russian army invade the US without the US government reacting unless they crossed into federal land?
Because no harm was done to *anybody* except DWS. And she needed to go, anyway, given her level of incompetence.
Are you seriously comparing an airplane being shot down or an oil tanker being sunk to some internal emails from a political organization being leaked to the press?
The DNC supposedly got hacked, not the US government. The US government has absolutely no reason to offer *any* response. The DNC might get angry about it (and maybe they can use that to continue to try to change the story away from their internal corruption) but they're not the US government.
There's also been a big change in forest management practices during that time. How were those factored in?
DENIER!!!
You know Clinton didn't release the tape, right?
His current attitude toward women is quite poor, and this tape just demonstrates that he thinks his money makes sexual assault okay. Even his supporters, I think it was Giuliani on the radio this morning, didn't try to defend what he said. Instead the angle was that he has changed, gone from billionaire playboy to presidential candidate and he wouldn't do that stuff now, even though he describes his own daughter as a "piece of ass".
Okay. So, at worst, he's still better than Bill Clinton against whom there is a credible claim of rape. Hillary and her supporters don't seem to have a problem with that, so why would they care about Donald Trump's lifestyle?
I mean, by that logic, Slashdotters should be moderating Slashdot.
Seriously though, regulators, like bosses, need to have experience in their industries. Every week we boo and hiss at clueless legislators coming in and trying to regulate the Internet or ban encryption or somesuch. The challenge is finding 'insiders' who can still see things in a broader perspective and aren't in the pocket of the people they're supposed to be regulating (a.k.a. regulatory capture). They're tough to find, but if you look hard enough you can find good people like Tom Wheeler.
I've read through some of the emails and so far I haven't found anything damning, just politically inconvenient truths. It's sad we've become so accustomed to pandering and sugar-coated soundbytes that when politicians actually speak honestly it leaves us sour.
The problem is that the Democrats keep yelling about Republicans being the party of big business and all that, so this is supposedly a really big deal to them. Also, remember how they want to get corporate donations out of politics? I'm sure Lessig is just *furious* over this new information about the candidate that he'll vote for no matter what. Right? LOL! Yeah, right.
It's the same way that the Republican base has been telling us for decades now that being a good, upstanding moral Christian is the foundation for presidential qualifications. Then Donald Trump came along. Suddenly, not an issue.
Based on mi's past posts, this was pretty certainly meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I post like this also on occasion.