You know what is even more an indicator that this is much less involved with TCP: it happens if you have a local html file that opens a local JPG. Even then I get the lag.
Anyways, I'm not so inclined to solve this problem right now... I'm just ignoring it hoping some day it'll go away =)
Yes, you are right. The whole point is that IE is painfully slow in certain scenarios where the server just drops the packet instead of sending a RST.
I for one am having the exact same results as you are. And realistically, I don't think any of this crowd will heed your post. It's too unhumiliating for IE.
On another note, I personally *am* plagued by this IE being super slow thing. And unlike some, I've looked into it logically: it happens 99.9% of the time if a javascript launches a new window, or if a link is Targeted.
I'm personally inclinded to think it might have to do with DNS. But I don't know. And I don't go around accusing people.
For christ' sake, even the poster says: my team and I noticed a couple of years ago
Whatever.
And the cherry on top of the whipping cream:
I have to admire their arrogance and their confidence. But it'll be some time before I can bring myself to admire their technical integrity.
your lockers were probably not electrically grounded (if they were, then they would have been perfectly shielded by creating a Fermi Cage was it? - anyways).
Mini discs are magneto optical: a laser melts the substance in which magnets are bathing, and only then can you modify their state.
Magnetic is in dude. You just need proper care, that's all.
Where I used to work, our whole project had a string table that would be referenced whenever user interaction was required. Simple file with symbols tob english words.
Then, we took that file, and sent it to professional translating companies (in XML), and they'd send us back a result. Stick in the file, and your done.
Picture yourself in a game of Civilization. And you have have this miracle project that allows you to slow down enemy units production of computers. Wouldn't you use it?
The interesting thing is that there is no 'player' governing the states. It's not even Dubya himself (he's just as much a peon as any other)... Yes, I was saying, the interesting thing is that it's everyone in america.
Including YOU!
Because in soviet russia... hmmm... bah
this post started out with the thought of being insightful, then funny, then I realized it was time for me to go to sleep.
You draw your own conclusions, make your own jokes... whatever.
Yup, I've been running outlook for ages now, if you are even a remotely conscious user, you disable small things (that don't inconvenience anyone), and it is just fine. I've NEVER gotten a virus from an email. And it's not like I don't check mail. I've received quite a few virii.
On top of that, I have another point to make: most virii aren't so complexe that they are 'Security aware'... hence, most virii will simply fail if not running as Administrator... you draw your conclusions.
The parent poster was probably the target of some stupid flame wars containing vbs scripts back at his university campus. And his insecure Win9x box got destroyed to smitherines...
For those who actually read articles on Slashdot, this one is probably the most insightful article I've seen in a long time!
And people should start opening their eyes:
It says two basic things: Moft technicians good, moft lawyers and marketers bad.
Think about it, Moft's bugs aren't so humoungous... Had they had 'proper' legal and marketing departments, nobody would have been so outraged by most of these bugs. (Btw, most of the bugs in IIS are actually in ISAPI filters. Not IIS itself - and if Moft had had the courage of leaving them un'plugged' to start with... sigh)...
I truely hope the tech team at redmond wins it out though... They DO have some of the most amazing programmers out there. And I really don't care what some/. geeks with 'vengeance' written on their forheads have to say about it.
Wow, if you say books are obsolete, you've probably never read one.
Manuals may be obsolete. I would never exchange the feel of touching paper when reading a novel with the eye strain of staring at a screen for litterally days.
Bah, I hope you're not really on the X-Box dev team.
Although I agree with you, this is a more accurate version:
Old woman hires person because she knows she can't protect her wallet. Person charges old woman money for it. Person gets robbed, doesn't put up a fight... says "fuck it, I'm not getting in a fight over someone else's friggin wallet"...
Old woman scratches her head.
The other edge of the sword though is this:
Old woman... [same as above yadi yada]... Says to Person, you know, I'm paying you an awful lot to just walk next to me holding my purse. So I'll pay you just to walk and hold my purse... $<minimum wage>/hr (because, as chris rock says: "I'd pay you less, but it just ain't legal"). Person gets mugged, and thinks, "Fuck! I'm just getting paid to walk... not fight".
For the same reason that basically any kind of media out there ultimately can't be hack proof, a compromised box will be hackable regardless of the OS. In fact, that's quite independant of the OS. It's only the FS that would determine how 'readable' the data on a box is...
See the issue is: no matter how strong crypto you use, you need to store the key somewhere. And I'm pretty sure these guys didn't have some sort of centralized key server...
At best, all they need is some guys with scruffy beards and pimples stuck in a basement for a week, and a never ending supply of Mountain Dew.
At worst, they boot the system and it's ready to fly.
Important observation: You cannot make an interface better without making it different (that's obvious).
I think herein lies the biggest conceit of them all.
It is this type of behaviour that instantly picks out an accomplished programmer from a novice... "Oh, I'll write my own string library to make it faster"...
Bullshit. You can build on small things that already exist right now. Maybe change some major things, but keep the tried and true methods. It's called Refactoring in the world Extreme Programming... and I think it should be a philosophy of life for every human on this planet.
On another note, I'd really like to see a working prototype... Anyone have a link?
I thought enough material had finally invaded the net for people to realize Mhz means nothing... I guess I was wrong.
Let's play what if... cause I don't have any facts on this processor: What if the mov operation of said processor is 1 cycle, whereas mov of pentium is 7?...
Where does that put you?
Books are written on CPUs. pick one up, and you'll understand Mhz means nothing.
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You know, if you look up at the parent threads, this discussion was between me and Fnkmaster, regarding how some things weren't answerable by science (like why we have 10 fingers).
It was further 'concluded' between me and said party that 'we' no longer had 'faith' in science to answer these said questions.
I never said science was a failing decadence... The only thing I did say, is that science won't answer certain questions, and people who believe they do are very very deeply deluding themselves. If you want a more explicit rehash: I said Science doesn't tell you the 'Truth' (truth in almost the religious sense, even though I'm quite convinced there is no god), ie. Science does not answer the question "why" (please read parent posts, I'm not going to re-elaborate)...
In you come with your banner of Philosophia Paternis. Of course I'm going to react the way I did...
You haven't added anything new to the discussion, and you've made me post two long replies. Did you read the parent thread?
The bottom line is this:
This makes them worth exploring, IMHO
I am quite happy for you. And in no way am I saying you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. However, don't delude yourself by saying you are answering the question "why". You aren't. Now, does that make you anything less than what you are? No.
End of discussion.
PS. Both Fnkmaster and I have relatively elaborate academic backgrounds in physics and math. Don't go picturing yourself a hick or some white trash troll somewhere in a basement.
, the vast majority of people in this world will work their entire life and never have near 1 million in the bank
I would even add, the vast majority of people (for example kids who work in Nike stores in india), work their entire lives, and don't even earn a cumulative sum of 1 million.
I too am Canadian, and a self tought programmer, and on my way "outta here".
I currently have several contracts that will most likely keep me afloat for about 2 more years... and I'm using those two years to fully train myself in other disciplines...
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IE with affinity on one CPU still 'hangs'. Kernel times show about 90% of CPU is effectively spent in Kernel. Will investigate more.
And you're also right, on single processor machines I've not noticed this.
Hmmm....
Maybe it's time for some low level call intercepting.
Have you set affinity on ie to see if it still happens? have you check kernel times? And where could I get in touch with you anonymous coward you? =)
You know what is even more an indicator that this is much less involved with TCP: it happens if you have a local html file that opens a local JPG. Even then I get the lag.
Anyways, I'm not so inclined to solve this problem right now... I'm just ignoring it hoping some day it'll go away =)
(lazy ol' me).
I for one am having the exact same results as you are. And realistically, I don't think any of this crowd will heed your post. It's too unhumiliating for IE.
On another note, I personally *am* plagued by this IE being super slow thing. And unlike some, I've looked into it logically: it happens 99.9% of the time if a javascript launches a new window, or if a link is Targeted.
I'm personally inclinded to think it might have to do with DNS. But I don't know. And I don't go around accusing people.
For christ' sake, even the poster says: my team and I noticed a couple of years ago
Whatever.
And the cherry on top of the whipping cream:
I have to admire their arrogance and their confidence. But it'll be some time before I can bring myself to admire their technical integrity.
Which I find sad because that's not really what I consider the nicer forms of programming. All IMHO, of course.
And don't get me wrong 90% of my work is web oriented. But I just remember a few years ago, saying you were a web developer was kind of degrading.
your lockers were probably not electrically grounded (if they were, then they would have been perfectly shielded by creating a Fermi Cage was it? - anyways).
Mini discs are magneto optical: a laser melts the substance in which magnets are bathing, and only then can you modify their state.
Magnetic is in dude. You just need proper care, that's all.
This leads to history dependent M(H) magnetic behavior (hysteresis)
That is: Stateful.
Where I used to work, our whole project had a string table that would be referenced whenever user interaction was required. Simple file with symbols tob english words.
Then, we took that file, and sent it to professional translating companies (in XML), and they'd send us back a result. Stick in the file, and your done.
Picture yourself in a game of Civilization. And you have have this miracle project that allows you to slow down enemy units production of computers. Wouldn't you use it?
The interesting thing is that there is no 'player' governing the states. It's not even Dubya himself (he's just as much a peon as any other)... Yes, I was saying, the interesting thing is that it's everyone in america.
Including YOU!
Because in soviet russia ... hmmm... bah
this post started out with the thought of being insightful, then funny, then I realized it was time for me to go to sleep.
You draw your own conclusions, make your own jokes... whatever.
And pointing out outlook as being one of Moft's flagship bug sources is just plain stupid. Both for the partisans of Moft, and the opposition.
On top of that, I have another point to make: most virii aren't so complexe that they are 'Security aware'... hence, most virii will simply fail if not running as Administrator... you draw your conclusions.
The parent poster was probably the target of some stupid flame wars containing vbs scripts back at his university campus. And his insecure Win9x box got destroyed to smitherines...
Or maybe not =)...
Lame performance of Itanium
Plus, the Itanium doesn't run 32-bit code natively
You kind of went ahead and explained the reason behind the proposterous assertion you made yourself. All in a single line. nice.
On top of that, if an app is not made 64 bit ready, why would you need a CPU that is?
Remember, servers are mainly the market where this shit counts, and they run one app or two (a web server, and a db server).
Point being, those small number of industrial apps will most likely support all 64 bit platforms regardles...
And people should start opening their eyes:
It says two basic things: Moft technicians good, moft lawyers and marketers bad.
Think about it, Moft's bugs aren't so humoungous... Had they had 'proper' legal and marketing departments, nobody would have been so outraged by most of these bugs. (Btw, most of the bugs in IIS are actually in ISAPI filters. Not IIS itself - and if Moft had had the courage of leaving them un'plugged' to start with... sigh)...
I truely hope the tech team at redmond wins it out though... They DO have some of the most amazing programmers out there. And I really don't care what some /. geeks with 'vengeance' written on their forheads have to say about it.
You have to die for it to work, and that only happens once. Maybe twice if you try real hard. After that people don't believe you anymore =)...
-This man's neck is broken...
-How broken?
-Let's check... he was going at 90mph... it's VERY broken.
-Aright, I guess we can take a break, there's no way he's coming back alive... Hey we even got proof he was going faster than a cesna.
Manuals may be obsolete. I would never exchange the feel of touching paper when reading a novel with the eye strain of staring at a screen for litterally days.
Bah, I hope you're not really on the X-Box dev team.
I'd consider it space junk. But then again, I guess it holds some value for some scientists.
Old woman hires person because she knows she can't protect her wallet. Person charges old woman money for it. Person gets robbed, doesn't put up a fight... says "fuck it, I'm not getting in a fight over someone else's friggin wallet"...
Old woman scratches her head.
The other edge of the sword though is this:
Old woman... [same as above yadi yada]... Says to Person, you know, I'm paying you an awful lot to just walk next to me holding my purse. So I'll pay you just to walk and hold my purse... $<minimum wage>/hr (because, as chris rock says: "I'd pay you less, but it just ain't legal"). Person gets mugged, and thinks, "Fuck! I'm just getting paid to walk... not fight".
For the same reason that basically any kind of media out there ultimately can't be hack proof, a compromised box will be hackable regardless of the OS. In fact, that's quite independant of the OS. It's only the FS that would determine how 'readable' the data on a box is...
See the issue is: no matter how strong crypto you use, you need to store the key somewhere. And I'm pretty sure these guys didn't have some sort of centralized key server...
At best, all they need is some guys with scruffy beards and pimples stuck in a basement for a week, and a never ending supply of Mountain Dew.
At worst, they boot the system and it's ready to fly.
Whamo.
CISC is even more of MHz increaser, because the decoding of the instruction gets chopped up into many parts too...
I think herein lies the biggest conceit of them all.
It is this type of behaviour that instantly picks out an accomplished programmer from a novice... "Oh, I'll write my own string library to make it faster"...
Bullshit. You can build on small things that already exist right now. Maybe change some major things, but keep the tried and true methods. It's called Refactoring in the world Extreme Programming... and I think it should be a philosophy of life for every human on this planet.
On another note, I'd really like to see a working prototype... Anyone have a link?
I thought enough material had finally invaded the net for people to realize Mhz means nothing... I guess I was wrong.
Let's play what if... cause I don't have any facts on this processor: What if the mov operation of said processor is 1 cycle, whereas mov of pentium is 7?...
Where does that put you?
Books are written on CPUs. pick one up, and you'll understand Mhz means nothing.
It was further 'concluded' between me and said party that 'we' no longer had 'faith' in science to answer these said questions.
I never said science was a failing decadence... The only thing I did say, is that science won't answer certain questions, and people who believe they do are very very deeply deluding themselves. If you want a more explicit rehash: I said Science doesn't tell you the 'Truth' (truth in almost the religious sense, even though I'm quite convinced there is no god), ie. Science does not answer the question "why" (please read parent posts, I'm not going to re-elaborate)...
In you come with your banner of Philosophia Paternis. Of course I'm going to react the way I did...
You haven't added anything new to the discussion, and you've made me post two long replies. Did you read the parent thread?
The bottom line is this:
This makes them worth exploring, IMHO
I am quite happy for you. And in no way am I saying you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. However, don't delude yourself by saying you are answering the question "why". You aren't. Now, does that make you anything less than what you are? No.
End of discussion.
PS. Both Fnkmaster and I have relatively elaborate academic backgrounds in physics and math. Don't go picturing yourself a hick or some white trash troll somewhere in a basement.
I would even add, the vast majority of people (for example kids who work in Nike stores in india), work their entire lives, and don't even earn a cumulative sum of 1 million.
I too am Canadian, and a self tought programmer, and on my way "outta here".
I currently have several contracts that will most likely keep me afloat for about 2 more years... and I'm using those two years to fully train myself in other disciplines...
(Mainly arts and humanities oriented)