Is it just me or does seeing a car w/ a big exhaust and thinking of a mans ass seem very....nevermind.
And in regards to your sig, Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
It seems to me that most people who would choose netscape over Internet Explorer wouldn't use IE anyways. If they know enough that they want to stay away from IE they can figure out how to download Netscape or Firefox or Mozilla or Opera, etc. etc. So it seems to me that while this looks like a good deal on paper it's not going to diminish IE's strangehold on the browser market anytime soon. However it is really good news to see companies giving people a choice to microsoft.
This is exactly what the open source community needs. A CD with great open source apps that can introduce people to the idea of free software. Below is a list of the programs included in case of/.'ing as the server is already getting slow:
Office & Design
OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, PDFCreator, GIMP
Internet & Communication
Mozilla, Miranda IM, FileZilla, TightVNC, WinHTTrack, PuTTY>
Ahh the good ole silent rave commercial, those are quite popular around some parts of the country, and no noise pollution. Just need a DJ and a transmitter. John Draper of Cap'n Crunch fame was quite into these if I recall correctly.
You don't have any time to download music, but your kids have nothing but free time. And I'm sure you've supplied each of them with their own top of the line computer complete with cd burner. And if they're under 16 what's easier? Pestering mom to drive you to the mall or just downloading an album?
Upon successful execution of the script, you will be able to telnet to your box and start exploring its capabilities. Note that there is no login prompt, you telnet directly in as root. Be careful.
Funny that this is posted so close to this Ask Slashdot. This does not fall under the category of secure solutions I take it. Why take something where security is already a concern and make it wide open to the world? Granted putting linux on this could be useful and provide more functions that you could use but at least add some semblance of security.
I know responding to obvious trolls is pointless but when they are this clueless, I will attempt to rebuff every point he made w/ common sense, and the ports collection. Here it goes.
1. You can not play games on it.
The ports collection begs to differ...
sh-2.05a$ ls/usr/ports/games/ | wc -l
526
2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
Your one almost good point. Although if you set your grandma up with a system preinstalled w/ BSD that booted into a GUI she could handle it as easily as she can handle windows.
3. It lacks a GUI of any note.
So KDE and GNOME are of no note? Plus:
sh-2.05a$ ls/usr/ports/x11-wm/ |wc -l
103
Now realistically there are not 103 window managers as a lot of the things in the directory contain themes and development stuff but I'd say there are at least 20 unique things in there.
4. There is no support available for it.
www.freebsd.org/handbook and #freebsd on irc.freenode.net will answer any question you ever have.
5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
Ermmmm, no?
6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
This is where the clueless / obvious troll part comes in.
7. You have to compile everything and know C.
pkg_add -r some_package_here
look at that, no compiling and I just installed some new software, yay!
8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
While not as good as windows at supporting hardware right away it's no worse then any other *nix OS out there.
9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux.
sh-2.05a$ cat/etc/rc.conf |grep linux
linux_enable="YES"
10.It is dying.
Ermm, no?
I would love to see some real proof of this. Seriously.
So your saying for once the ADD slashdot crowd should have read the article? Now you ask too much, way too much. What's next, thinking before we post and using spell checkers?
They are also hackers, capable of destroying e-mail accounts and wiping out hard drives with the click of a mouse.
Gee now they can put the whole city of calgary in a panic because the newspaper reporter doesn't understand that these hackers are programmers, not 31337 5kR1pT k1dd135. And plus if they were going to wipe out a hard drive or e-mail account, I doubt there would be a mouse involved. After seeing that bit I'm sure the guys interviewed for the article are real happy. Anyways, just my two pennies.
If 90% of the universe is missing, I'm betting that my dryer is the portal to the missing part. Let me explain. I put a load of clothes in the washer. Then I move them from the washer to my dryer. Then when the dryer gets done with them and I put them on my bed to be folded, stuff that was there when I put the clothes into the dryer is always missing. This has convinced me that my dryer is a portal of sorts to somewhere. On a side note if anyone wants to get in my dryer and try to open this portal somehow you're more then welcome assuming you get me my clothes back.A big plus would be that you'd get the credit for finding the rest of the universe.
Ermm just to clarify for everyone before they click the link, right on the page this story is described to be an urban legend.
"This Darwin Award is the most popular of all time. Considered true for years, it was later debunked as an Urban Legend by the Arizona Department of Public Safety. The story fooled the judges in 1995, so JATO has been grandfathered in as a Darwin Award Winner."
Not that you were claiming it was true, just pasting for everyone who's too lazy to scroll below the darwin award's voting stuff.
Thats what I was figuring and why I asked. Seems like a great idea if they can work out the bugs and the hardware can catch up. Of course I know nothing about video editing but I'm assuming that you could get some decent software and it would be a big plus to be able to record directly to where the editing would take place. But then again I have no clue about this at all.
I have never done any kind of video recording, editing, etc. beyond your basic camcorder usage. So I have to ask, is 30 gig's of hard drive space enough for raw video to be recorded? I know after compression and stuff you can fit two hour videos into under a gig w/ quite a bit of quality loss. But for serious video recording editing I'm guessing 2 hours of video would be quite a bit larger then 1 gig. And it doesn't mention anything about on the fly compression (i dont know if that's even possibe / practical w/ today's cpu's and the software this thing has), so I'm guessing whatever format you record to is going to be huge. If anyone with any experience would care to comment on the size of uncompressed video files it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Pardon my ignorance here but why the 3d tests? It says right in the article that this is not the CPU to get for gaming. Wouldn't it make more sense to compile some software or something of that nature and see the differences? Anyone know of a hardware review site that has useful benchmarks for those of us who don't care about pc gaming? I want to see kernel compile times or something. Something I can relate to.
Let's see 12 distro's tested. Of those 8 are red hat / mandrake and 2 were suse. To give linux / alternative operating systems a try there should be more choices. She never said that linux was her only choice she just thought it best met her requirements. Seems to be that FreeBSD or any other BSD would be a good choice to try at as they meet all the requirements. Or if your hell bent on linux at least use a bunch of different distros just not red hat and mandrake. Doesn't seem like she gave enough alternitaves a try. I'm personally a fan of using what works best, be it windows, unix, linux, bsd, mac, beos, or whatever. It varies from person to person and from situation to situation and from computer to computer. There is no end all perfect for all, hardware, situations, and uses operating system and until there is one, we'll be stuck dual booting or using windows in some situations or whatever. Anyways thats just my two pennies.
I've taught computer classes to kids before (ages 5 - 14 ) and it is amazing what some of them can do. It's neat to see which ones are confident enough to tinker with things and don't fear making mistakes, the same qualities many/.'ers had in their formative years I'm sure. By sitting in a lab with a few kids and doing something like blocking their favorite website, 9 times out of 10 the kids that go and find away around whatever you did are the ones that relate best to other people and kids. A little bit different then the older stereotypical geek I suppose. Back to the article, I think that besides the internet there has been no real boom in the computer reveloution during my lifetime at least, but then again I'm young and the lowest end machine I got to tinker with was a 286. I'm sure those of you who still have their commie 64's around have some other examples, but quite frankly, I missed all those. The way I see it the computer revolution has been a slow and steady battle with little booms along the way.
And that is also a very valid point, and is why I only own about 10 xbox games. While there are a bunch of xbox games out there, there are only a few I see as worth buying. And graphics are generally the last thing I look at when thinking about buying a game. Sure they're purty and all but I'd much rather have a game with great gameplay then great graphics. In the end the eye candy is nice, but not worth my fifty bucks. On another note I'm sure the game play ratios are very similar between the xbox and ps2 in regard to good games / crap games, ps2 just has way more games out. And damn how I love xbox live.
I suggest you take a look at screen shots from games that have been optimized for the xbox and are also on ps2. Splinter Cell came out on ps2 months after it came out on the xbox and on the ps2 it simply can't compete graphically. In some sections they even had to re design bits and peices of levels for them to work on the ps2. As far as the ps3 and microsoft not being able to compete you may have a point. However as long as microsoft wants to back the xbox they will lose as much money as it takes to stay competitive.
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Is it just me or does seeing a car w/ a big exhaust and thinking of a mans ass seem very ....nevermind.
And in regards to your sig, Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
It seems to me that most people who would choose netscape over Internet Explorer wouldn't use IE anyways. If they know enough that they want to stay away from IE they can figure out how to download Netscape or Firefox or Mozilla or Opera, etc. etc. So it seems to me that while this looks like a good deal on paper it's not going to diminish IE's strangehold on the browser market anytime soon. However it is really good news to see companies giving people a choice to microsoft.
Office & Design
OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, PDFCreator, GIMP
Internet & Communication
Mozilla, Miranda IM, FileZilla, TightVNC, WinHTTrack, PuTTY>
Multimedia & Games
Audacity, CDex, Tux Paint, Crack Attack!, Sokoban YASC, Neverball, Celestia, Really Slick Screensavers
Utilities & Other
7-Zip, SciTE, WinPT, NetTime
Ahh the good ole silent rave commercial, those are quite popular around some parts of the country, and no noise pollution. Just need a DJ and a transmitter. John Draper of Cap'n Crunch fame was quite into these if I recall correctly.
Thats ok, now you can prosecute him under the DMCA.
You don't have any time to download music, but your kids have nothing but free time. And I'm sure you've supplied each of them with their own top of the line computer complete with cd burner. And if they're under 16 what's easier? Pestering mom to drive you to the mall or just downloading an album?
Funny that this is posted so close to this Ask Slashdot. This does not fall under the category of secure solutions I take it. Why take something where security is already a concern and make it wide open to the world? Granted putting linux on this could be useful and provide more functions that you could use but at least add some semblance of security.
No no no kids like games and social interaction, /. readers and other geeks like blinking lights and shiny things.
1. You can not play games on it. /usr/ports/games/ | wc -l
The ports collection begs to differ...
sh-2.05a$ ls
526
2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
Your one almost good point. Although if you set your grandma up with a system preinstalled w/ BSD that booted into a GUI she could handle it as easily as she can handle windows.
3. It lacks a GUI of any note. /usr/ports/x11-wm/ |wc -l
So KDE and GNOME are of no note? Plus:
sh-2.05a$ ls
103
Now realistically there are not 103 window managers as a lot of the things in the directory contain themes and development stuff but I'd say there are at least 20 unique things in there.
4. There is no support available for it.
www.freebsd.org/handbook and #freebsd on irc.freenode.net will answer any question you ever have.
5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
Ermmmm, no?
6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
This is where the clueless / obvious troll part comes in.
7. You have to compile everything and know C.
pkg_add -r some_package_here
look at that, no compiling and I just installed some new software, yay!
8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
While not as good as windows at supporting hardware right away it's no worse then any other *nix OS out there.
9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux. /etc/rc.conf |grep linux
sh-2.05a$ cat
linux_enable="YES"
10.It is dying.
Ermm, no? I would love to see some real proof of this. Seriously.
See original BSD code.
Like there were people in Berkley in the 60's - 70's and not doing LSD?
Doh! Good call, thats what I get for thinking. Thanks for correcting me. /me runs off to slap head against wall
No no no it's microsoft software that's octal mode is 666. Making things world writeable and readable would be 777.
So your saying for once the ADD slashdot crowd should have read the article? Now you ask too much, way too much. What's next, thinking before we post and using spell checkers?
Gee now they can put the whole city of calgary in a panic because the newspaper reporter doesn't understand that these hackers are programmers, not 31337 5kR1pT k1dd135. And plus if they were going to wipe out a hard drive or e-mail account, I doubt there would be a mouse involved. After seeing that bit I'm sure the guys interviewed for the article are real happy. Anyways, just my two pennies.
Well it looks like it wasn't better writing then shakespeare's but I'm guessing it could qualify as code better then Microsoft's.
If 90% of the universe is missing, I'm betting that my dryer is the portal to the missing part. Let me explain. I put a load of clothes in the washer. Then I move them from the washer to my dryer. Then when the dryer gets done with them and I put them on my bed to be folded, stuff that was there when I put the clothes into the dryer is always missing. This has convinced me that my dryer is a portal of sorts to somewhere. On a side note if anyone wants to get in my dryer and try to open this portal somehow you're more then welcome assuming you get me my clothes back.A big plus would be that you'd get the credit for finding the rest of the universe.
"This Darwin Award is the most popular of all time. Considered true for years, it was later debunked as an Urban Legend by the Arizona Department of Public Safety. The story fooled the judges in 1995, so JATO has been grandfathered in as a Darwin Award Winner."
Not that you were claiming it was true, just pasting for everyone who's too lazy to scroll below the darwin award's voting stuff.
Thats what I was figuring and why I asked. Seems like a great idea if they can work out the bugs and the hardware can catch up. Of course I know nothing about video editing but I'm assuming that you could get some decent software and it would be a big plus to be able to record directly to where the editing would take place. But then again I have no clue about this at all.
I have never done any kind of video recording, editing, etc. beyond your basic camcorder usage. So I have to ask, is 30 gig's of hard drive space enough for raw video to be recorded? I know after compression and stuff you can fit two hour videos into under a gig w/ quite a bit of quality loss. But for serious video recording editing I'm guessing 2 hours of video would be quite a bit larger then 1 gig. And it doesn't mention anything about on the fly compression (i dont know if that's even possibe / practical w/ today's cpu's and the software this thing has), so I'm guessing whatever format you record to is going to be huge. If anyone with any experience would care to comment on the size of uncompressed video files it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Pardon my ignorance here but why the 3d tests? It says right in the article that this is not the CPU to get for gaming. Wouldn't it make more sense to compile some software or something of that nature and see the differences? Anyone know of a hardware review site that has useful benchmarks for those of us who don't care about pc gaming? I want to see kernel compile times or something. Something I can relate to.
Let's see 12 distro's tested. Of those 8 are red hat / mandrake and 2 were suse. To give linux / alternative operating systems a try there should be more choices. She never said that linux was her only choice she just thought it best met her requirements. Seems to be that FreeBSD or any other BSD would be a good choice to try at as they meet all the requirements. Or if your hell bent on linux at least use a bunch of different distros just not red hat and mandrake. Doesn't seem like she gave enough alternitaves a try. I'm personally a fan of using what works best, be it windows, unix, linux, bsd, mac, beos, or whatever. It varies from person to person and from situation to situation and from computer to computer. There is no end all perfect for all, hardware, situations, and uses operating system and until there is one, we'll be stuck dual booting or using windows in some situations or whatever. Anyways thats just my two pennies.
I've taught computer classes to kids before (ages 5 - 14 ) and it is amazing what some of them can do. It's neat to see which ones are confident enough to tinker with things and don't fear making mistakes, the same qualities many /.'ers had in their formative years I'm sure. By sitting in a lab with a few kids and doing something like blocking their favorite website, 9 times out of 10 the kids that go and find away around whatever you did are the ones that relate best to other people and kids. A little bit different then the older stereotypical geek I suppose. Back to the article, I think that besides the internet there has been no real boom in the computer reveloution during my lifetime at least, but then again I'm young and the lowest end machine I got to tinker with was a 286. I'm sure those of you who still have their commie 64's around have some other examples, but quite frankly, I missed all those. The way I see it the computer revolution has been a slow and steady battle with little booms along the way.
And that is also a very valid point, and is why I only own about 10 xbox games. While there are a bunch of xbox games out there, there are only a few I see as worth buying. And graphics are generally the last thing I look at when thinking about buying a game. Sure they're purty and all but I'd much rather have a game with great gameplay then great graphics. In the end the eye candy is nice, but not worth my fifty bucks. On another note I'm sure the game play ratios are very similar between the xbox and ps2 in regard to good games / crap games, ps2 just has way more games out. And damn how I love xbox live.
I suggest you take a look at screen shots from games that have been optimized for the xbox and are also on ps2. Splinter Cell came out on ps2 months after it came out on the xbox and on the ps2 it simply can't compete graphically. In some sections they even had to re design bits and peices of levels for them to work on the ps2. As far as the ps3 and microsoft not being able to compete you may have a point. However as long as microsoft wants to back the xbox they will lose as much money as it takes to stay competitive.