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VW Beetle Fitted with a Jet Engine
6031769 writes "Ron Patrick has decided to go that little bit further by souping up his VW beetle with a jet engine, as reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. Serious planning went into the project. Patrick said, 'We did (computerized) structural analysis and we did stability analysis. And by God, you know what happens? It works!' Contrast with the Rocket Boy to see how it should not be done." Yes, the Darwin award winner was found to be bogus, but unlike the myth, Ron still lives!
Hey i have prior art! I should have patented this...
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Is there a bumper sticker that says: How do you like my driving? Dial 1-800-EAT-SHIT.
Ah.. finally, uselessness done right!
In Soviet Russia, beetle get smashed on windsheild. In America, Beetle smash YOU!
No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring.
Or does combining a volkswagon bug and a tail pipe so large that it make goatse jealous seem very.. nevermind.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
Patrick says that once in a while he puts on a crash helmet (mainly as a sound muffler), takes the car out on nearby Highway 237 in the wee hours of the morning and fires it up for a brief and hopefully cop-free run.
I frequently travel home from work on Hwy. 237 in Sunnyvale in the wee hours of the morning. I think I'd better watch out for this guy. I doubt my unmodfied Hyundai Accent could keep up, or even get out of the way for that matter.
And the brethren went away edified.
For the video, I get 4 seconds of continuous video followed by 20 seconds of "Buffering".
welcome to last week...
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http://www.ecm-co.com.nyud.net:8080/jetbeetle/
/. it.
http://www.ecm-co.com.nyud.net:8090/jetbeetle/
Coralizing the link doesn't seem to work for me, but YMMV.
FYI - It's hosted on his business website, so try not to
A mirror wouldn't hurt.
-http://www.ecm-co.com/jetbeetle/
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o0t!
Yeah, I'd hate to see that speeding ticket. It'd cost twice as much as the rocket car.
At least he didn't decide to suprise the owner with this upgrade, like this guy did...
"Darwin Express"
Table-ized A.I.
It's one thing to be tricking out a Honda Civic (ricer) or IROC (white trash), but adding a jet engine to a new Beetle in San Francisco is the tuner equivalent of Richard Simmons dancing in an Elton John music video.
"No beer until you finish your tequila!" -Leela's Dad
This is nothing NEW!! Jet engines all the time in TopGear..
s /carbage/pages/0412/
http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/section
The scary part of the story is the bit about Surface to Air Missiles. What are the chances do you think of it clearing customs in this world of Homeland Security?
A year or two ago, Patrick, through his connections in the surplus military equipment world, found himself at a "secret, but now defunct air force base in Poland," one that had been used by Warsaw Pact forces during the Cold War. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Soviet-era armaments began showing up on various black and not-so-black markets.
The men running the Polish air force base were trying to sell Patrick an SA-2 missile. This is the ubiquitous surface-to-air missile used by the Soviet Union and nearly all its military allies. It was an SA-2 that shot down Francis Gary Powers' U-2 spy plane in 1960.
Not only were the guys at the air base trying to sell Patrick an SA-2, "they were saying, 'you want a MiG 21 (fighter jet)? I'll sell you two tanks and a MiG.' " .
"So they wanted $2,000 for the missile," Patrick said, "and I had a bottle of ouzo and after a while I got them down to a grand." He still hasn't got the 35-foot-long missile, but he does know what he'll do with it once it clears U.S. customs. (Good luck.)
This guy must be pretty confident the cost of gas will eventually come back down.
If a baby duck is a "duckling," why would anyone want to eat "dumplings?"
The video is interesting, but could the narration be any worse?? That has to be the driest, most disinterested voice-over I've ever heard! I guess now we know why he writes for a newspaper instead of working as a TV reporter...
"So after all this, you make my case for me. To end this stalemate, you must die..."
Oh God, it BURNS! It BURNS into my very SOUL!
No, Mr. Green. Communism is just a red herring.
but can it fly? and can you imagine the MPG on that thing? it would probably make jumbo jet sized SUV's jealous!
Back in the 1960s, a company called Turbonique made (along with a rocket-powered turbocharger for "normal" engines), rocket engines for automobiles.
One of these gadgets pushed a VW Beetle (the old, cool kind, not those new toys) to a 9.36 ET at 168 mph in the quarter mile.
Later, someone built a rocket-powered go-kart which managed about 240 MPH...
Spinners, HID-headlights and a massive wing spoiler to go with that fat chrome tip.
Time to pimp das Auto! Amerikan engineering in da Haus, ja.
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What a great article!
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http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/ufo/to-be-merged/l azar.jet-car
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for everybody pointing and laughing at his "chick" car with built-in flower vase. Now it's a jet-propelled chick car.
They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
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How many gallons to the mile does this get? No, that's not a typo.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
by souping up his VW beetle with a jet engine,
Shouldn't it be, "adding a VW-beetle to his jet engine"?
Table-ized A.I.
http://sfgate.com/g/av/movies/2006/04/30/jetbug_m4 .mp4
"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
'till Ron Patrick hits a speed bump
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You can pretty much fuck around with your youth however you want. Dress crazy, sleep around, be poor, be rich, whatever. There comes a point -- let's say 30 -- when you need to get serious and start thinking about the future. I'm not talking about a job or investing or anything, I mean, do that stuff, but we're not covering that here. We're talking about identity and personality... who you are. There comes a time when reinventions of self are just tedious to your friends and family, so you need to pick a target for middle/old age, and then work, slowly, on gracefully transitioning from whoever you were at 29 into that guy.
I think this is my guy.
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Sounds like a very uncomfortable place.
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No, not the myth of the man strapping ICBMs to his impala.
I've seen a couple videos floating about, of a jet turbine engine powered 2nd gen MR2. There was even one on ebay, according to this site at least: http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10679/
Check some sources before posting old stuff Slashdot, pretty please? ;) http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/06/jet-powered-vw- bug-takes-to-the-street/
I'm sure a good number of your readers also read Engadget on a regular basis. They should've caught this already. Anyway....
how did this person get permision to do this. The myth busters couldnt even get a jet engine for their project. Even with the firedepartment there and everything.
"Instead of cut and try, cut and try, cut and try, like the hot rod guys do, you have to do a whole bunch of computer analysis before you build it," he said. "We did (computerized) structural analysis and we did stability analysis. And by God, you know what happens? It works! Duh."
:)
I have to agree with him regarding hot-rodders. A lot of people seem to think the way to solve a problem is to frob at it until you get something that works. All the Motorola phone hacking kids, Xbox homebrewers, and PSP kiddies seem to think that the spackle approach (throw things at the wall until something sticks) is the best way to solve problems. You know, rather than solving them by understanding them
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In the movie Brazil they had a Messerschmitt fitted with a jet engine. I'm sure it was real and actually worked. Yup.
This is so fake. You wouldnt even have enough fuel to run it for a minute. I thought this was prooved fake on these very boards already.
Here's a very funny and well written article about Turbonique history and the insanty of rocket dragsters. Found via Coop's blog with a comment along the lines of "If this doesn't make you tight in the pants, I don't know what will."
You know what?
There's a guy that sells motorcycles powered by helicopter turbines. Jay Leno has one.
http://www.rocketcarstory.com/
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The infamous Rocket Car story always specifies a late 1960s Chevy Impala as the pilot's first choice...
"But despite all these oversights, the story did specify that the car was a 1967 Chevy Impala. I think the reason this detail is always supplied is because it's critical to make the listener think the test pilot at least looked cool when he flew into the cliff. You'll never hear someone tell a story about a guy in a rocket-powered K-car or a Volkswagen Beetle. It has to be a car that deserves to have a rocket attached to it."
The Rocket Car Legend
Rover built a number (about 50 or so IIRC) of gas turbine cars in about the 60's or 70's. They were intended as a proof of concept prototype and were placed with customers for a trial. Not intended as a high performance vehicle. They worked but would have been too expensive to run and were a bit thirsty...for cheaper fuel than petrol, but it still didn't compute.
Fully street legal...
Reading the article, it seems he wants to pop an ex-Polish SAM down a scale missile silo, so he can sit there at night watching the lid open and the rocket rise in some kind of son et lumiere armageddonette.
I figure CHP pulling his volkswagon over will pale in comparison to the visitors he'll get about 10 minutes after the first satellite pass over his little display.
If I remember (and I may be wrong in detail), when the silo outside Green Valley was decommissioned and turned into a tourist attraction, the decommissioned missile was hauled out, laid on its side and had a big chunk cut out to demonstrate to passing satellites that it was clearly non-flyable. Then it was popped back down the hole, the lid half-opened and huge concrete buffers placed across the rails to prevent the lid from opening fully.
People routinely drive 160mph on the autobon in Germany. Many cars can do it.
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My biggest question is, how efficient is this for forward motion of the car. A 1400+ horsepower engine that propels the car to 160 mph seems rather inefficient. A lot of production cars can reach this speed. A c6 corvette can easily achieve this speed. Hell, many cars with at least 300 horsepower and a reasonable weight can go this fast.
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For children posters who might not know, the this is a reference to the JATO urban legend
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Hmm... don't you think the SF Gate should get that credit?
Sure, Slashdot lets us know about the articles, but if you got this link in an email, would you credit the guy who sent it to you with covering the story?!?
Several years back I found this text about the origins of the rocketcar story. While I don't know if it is true, I will say it is a very interesting read if you have a half hour or so. At the very least, it will change the way you think about the rocket car story.
http://www.rocketcarstory.com/
I've been hearing about such a thing for a couple of years now I think. I prefer the jet-engined Toyota MR2 I saw on ebay a year ago myself.
Chicken fried butter sticks? Do
http://cdn.sfgate.com/gate/av/movies/2006/04/30/j
I remember that car before it was on ebay. There was a website out there dedicated to it at some point. Only reason this is news; is because it was reported in San Francisco with a more trendy (albiet, unreliable hunk of garbage) car. As long as its German!! Audi, VW, BMW, MB, we dont care! Electrical systems designed by an 8 year old be damned!!! That MR2 was pretty slick. I seem to remember a few other cars as well. There was also that one car back in the 60s that some certain automobile maker (now defunct iirc) made a few copies of.
Why wouldn't he have put one of those in a Jetta? It seems much more appropriate to me.
in EE 203, 'the entrepreneurial engineer', a class at Stanford. It was pretty interesting, and I think that his company (while it's no google) is doing well enough that he can afford to spend 250k on putting a jet engine in "the backseat of a volkswagen"
So I am afraid this jet car is actually a bit pathetic. It's no more powerful than the (street legal, normally drivable) VW Bugatti, which costs about the same, and it is less powerful than a suitable modded tractor engine.
What I took away from that company was an in-dept knowledge of how to produce a hardened engine management system, and a lifelong passion for Diesels. As our Technical Director used to say, and history has proved him right, with the exception of power to weight ratio there is absolutely no measure on which a Diesel cannot be made to out-perform every other type of combustion engine.
Pining for the fjords
As for the attitude of the rest of British industry, I'm reminded of the memo that went out around British Aerospace to the effect that nobody was to have anything to do with that madman Richard Noble.
_that_ Richard Noble. He of Thrusts 1 and 2, not apparently heard of by people who post on Slashdot.
Pining for the fjords
The Rocket Boy story may be a myth, but I can think of a reason why the Rocket Boy story may be even more farfetched.
Consider a jet fighter designed to withstand afterburner forces and compare to any kind of car you care to consider, be it a 1967 Chevy Impala or not. If Rocket Boy weighted 175 pounds, which is more or less the average for a youngish adult US male, 8 G-Forces translates to the guy applying 1400 pounds of weight on the front seat.
When a car is engineered, including front seat and seatbelt design, full-speed frontal crashes are a consideration, but not full-speed reverse crashes, and this is the kind of pressure Rocket Boy was applying to the inside of his vehicle, only stronger.
In fact, I can also picture Rocket Boy's pants jamming in the seatbelt. My guess is that as soon as the acceleration crossed a certain threshold, the car seat would snap like a recliner sofa, so that a flailing Rocket Boy would slide out of his trousers, propelling backwards waist-naked to meet his destiny, leaving behind a triumphant brown streak along the backrest, part of the backseat, car trunk and beyond into the 8th dimension.
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...being able to spend 250 grand on a toy instead of on hungry people in Africa. I want one.
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Why a Beetle? The guys got no style. He must be a Microsoft user.
I could have an extra half hour in bed in the morning... Hmmmnnnn lovely! ;o)
Smile, it confuses people
http://www.solent-renegades.co.uk/images/shows/san tapod/easter_2005/photos/sh/beetle_jet_car_d.JPG
I have seen this or a similar beetle at the NitrolympX (dragster event) in Germany.
Nothing new.
... and a bumper sticker saying "You honk, I toast you!!!"
Man, that is insane!! Quarter million bucks?? Get seriuos, please...
There will never be a match for how STUPID the mankind can be or, as I saw once in a poster: "Artificial Inteligence will never be a match for the natrual stupidity!"
This kind of waste of money, man labor and time makes me really sick!
"There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat, plausible, and wrong."
H. L. Mencken
The camera thing really works. Last year some German TV show tested this on a German racing track to find out if it was just an Urban Myth or not (this is vital for us, as for Germans driving like hell in general and as fast as your car can go on the Autobahn is as much of a God given right as your guns for you Americans). It really works. You just have to go really really fast. IIRC it worked from 250 km/h onwards (no warranty) or something like that. This is really not too irrelevant if you have a larger/faster car typical for Germany: E.g. our measly company BMW 120d (the smallest line currently available but not a sports car) tops out at 235 km/h (tested by me certainly on the Autobahn). Even at that speed you still can get in trouble from guys in larger BMWs, Porsches or Benzes that want you out of their way. And at night if there is almost no traffic.... welllll...... *big smile*
As the Top Gear people did with this Mini with 4 rockets in the boot: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHsw66dz4A
Beating up people in little rooms, if you do it for a good reason you do it for a bad one.
I guess when you start up this thing, your official title as the person behind the wheel of the vehicle goes like this:
;)
1.) You pedal, you are now officialy a "driver"
2.) You push the little red button, you are now officially a "pilot"
3.) You push the little red button a little too long, you are now officially a "satelite"
Now if only the Moller SkyCard had one of these on the back. Never mind vertical takeoff and landing, I want to get the moon!
. Knut
He isnt too worried about gas prices..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
You need a bumper sticker that says, "If you can read this your windshield is about to melt."
This is not my sandwich.
A long time ago, too. I don't remember exactly when or where I read about it (some hot rod mag) but it would have been late '60s or early '70s.
They tried it out on a track. At some speed (IIRC and I probably don't, around 200mph) it became airborne and crashed.
The VW bug design is an airfoil. TFA never mentioned if the guy ever turned the jet engine on, I'm guessing he hasn't.
-mcgrew
Google's ad placement algorithms are getting better and better. The page with the video had "Top New Beetle Prices" and "San Francisco Dentist" - I guess they know what the likely result of operating this monster is!
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I mean, come on. He doesn't have the engine actually hooked up to any gears to turn the wheels. He just has it mounted on the back of the car, and he's relying on the engine thrust to push the car along.
... yet -
Trouble is that that kind of engine isn't designed to do that. It's a T-58 engine, a turboshaft engine off of a helicopter. While the engine on a jet is designed to shoot lots of hot air out the back, producing thrust to drive the jet forward, turboshafts are designed to, well, turn a shaft, to turn a rotor blade. In other words, they're torquey, not thrusty, and helicopters don't go fast because of the engine exhaust, they go fast because of the rotor.
I was looking to buy a (ex-Soviet) MiG 15 or MiG 17 jet engine.
He'd have been far better off doing that. The engine off a MiG-17 develops 6,000 ft-lbs of thrust.
I mean, look what kind of performance he gets with his 1500-horsepower jet engine:
He said that a jet-boosted run will "pin the speedometer and that's at 140." He thinks that when it hits 160 mph -- he hasn't seen that
140? My 300-horsepower Mustang GT is perfectly capable of hitting 140, and would probably do 160 if a governor doesn't kick in. 1500-horsepower is the power of the gas turbine in an M-1 tank; if he had this thing hooked into the drive wheels, he'd go like a bat out of hell. But as it is, all he's doing is making a lot of noise.
Which I mean is fun and all, but fundamentally, he doesn't have a jet-powered car. He's got a car with a jet engine in the trunk.
v-dub in the house, yah
Fortunately it won't be street legal to DRIVE. Maybe to PARK, but not to DRIVE on the public streets. But, if it is in motion and then is parked... and seen by an angry German couple, then...
I'm sure they won't be saying farfegnugen, but if they ram his jet, they MIGHT hail, "FUKENGROOVEN!"
If they kick the shit out of his car, they can say, "We gave it das BOOT!"
(I lay periodic claim to those ounces of German blood in my veins...as I lay claim to the Ethiopian, French, Spanish, Native American, and any other lines in me to say that... Now, isn't THAT fukengrooven?!)
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http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/06/jet-powered-vw
I guess it gets it's air-intake from through the floor
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Big rolling fire balls in the parking lot - right next to the hazmat area. Fuckin' dumb ass.
Wherever you go, there you are.
I grew up in Los Alamos, NM, and someone there had an original beetle with some sort of aircraft engine attached integrated into the car's rear. I remember seeing them up at the Valle Grande and hearing them turn the thing on, though the car was stopped and for all I know they just did it for show, and never actually used the engine's thrust.
This was in the early- to mid-80's. Anyone out there know any details? I assumed that if these guys were doing it, that there were other people around the country doing the same thing... but I guess it was Los Alamos after all...
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He said that a jet-boosted run will "pin the speedometer and that's at 140." He thinks that when it hits 160 mph -- he hasn't seen that
Way to skip the second half of the quote to make an artificial point -- the full quote is:
He said that a jet-boosted run will "pin the speedometer and that's at 140." He thinks that when it hits 160 mph -- he hasn't seen that
So his whole project is about doing something really cool and making a lot of noise. What's your point??
The guy even says that he does not want to go any faster, says that it's not safe, says the fun is in the noise, and you have a post about how he should have done something different?
I think your whole post is about "My Mustang is cooler, and I know more about jet engines and going fast than a Stanford Phd". If he had actually made a car that goes really fast, he would have had to modify the car a whole lot more (drivetrain, etc) to go to a speed that is aerodynamically unsafe when he doesn't want to go any faster. I had a BMW that went 120, and that was plenty fast for me. The car took off like a rocket at 105 when you punched, but 120 in a small sports car feels very very fast, and I had no desire to go any faster. This guy is going fast enough to have a lot of fun, puts out alot of fire and a lot of noise -- I think that's really cool.
You're also ignoring the fact that this guy is an expert on cars:
He probably decided on the T58 because he got all the noise and flames without getting a lot of unnecessary thrust and Darwinizing himself.
A T-58 is a turboshaft helicopter engine not a true jet engine. If it were me, I would have built a gas turbine-electric hybrid.
I wonder how much a hot section inspection is going to cost?
Since turbojets don't produce horsepower in the same sense that a recip. engine does, how much thrust is equivalent to approx. 1400 HP? I'm thinking that if this engine puts out somewhere in the neighborhood of 2000 lbs of thrust (maybe more) then terminal velocity for the Bug should be roughly 300 or more. I'm just guessing.
One of our neighbors had one of these in the early '60s.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/turbine.html/
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I don't think that JP-7 jet fuel is going to be any cheaper than today's current cost for high octane unleaded.
:)
But still, it could be fun
Hmmm...
Old, OLD fucking news- This was on Digg a month ago. So long, /.
...just saying.../. is sloooow. digg however is up to date
You guys are really getting behind the times...
Maybe i should just start ripping off fark stories and posting them here
"The purpose of this car is to have fun and be stupid," he says with a laugh. "This is entertainment. It's a toy, a toy for silly boys." LOL, yes, the only difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys! His company is a mile from where I work. I just looked it up. Oh, and BMWs run smooth at 140. So he could have saved himself the touble of souping up a bug. But, you know, when you have a spare quarter mill burning a hole in your pocket, why not? :)
It's a girl!
A jet engine in a VW Beetle was done a while back, mid-2004 if I remember rightly. It was a British guy called Ronnie Picardo who has a lot of history with British drag racing, in particular jet exhibition cars. It makes regular appearances at a drag strip in the UK, particularly at the VW enthusiast events. Here's a few pictures:
l e2.jpg
n tapod/easter_2005/photos/m/beetle_jet_car.JPG
http://www.santapod.co.uk/images/gallery/jet_beet
http://www.solent-renegades.co.uk/images/shows/sa
http://www.slowcarclub.com/jet/beetle-jet.jpg
But one heat-seeking missile, and he's history!
"We gave it das BOOT!"
We gave it the boat?
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
I was completely out on the Bugatti cost, you are correct. I was thinking of the cheapo Porsche.
Pining for the fjords
He's using a jet not a rocket. Jay Leno has a jet powered motorcycle.
Yawn.
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As for powerband, you need to compare like with like. To get a wide power band from a gas engine you need relatively low performance coupled with variable valve timing and probably a variable manifold. To achieve the same with a Diesel you need a variable vane turbocharger and an engine management system. Power band is relative, i.e. a power band of 1200 to 3600 rpm is wider than a power band of 3000 to 6000 rpm. The first one may only cover 2400 revs versus 3000, but it covers a 3 to 1 range of road speed versus 2 to 1.
I should have perhaps clarified by pointing out that the meaning was not that a single representative Diesel could outperform every gas engine on every parameter. That would be utter nonsense. The meaning is that the largest IC engines are Diesel; the engines with the lowest fuel consumption per KWH are Diesel; it is possible to design an extremely compact high output Diesel engine that would outperform any gas engine on KW/cubic metre; it is possible to design Diesel engines with a flatter torque curve over a higher RPM ratio than any gas engine; it is possible to build a Diesel with a higher MP than any gas engine. However, it is possible to design a spark ignition engine which outperforms any Diesel on power to weight ratio, unless you include the very smallest model aircraft engines which are semi-Diesel (glow plug).
The latest IC engine development may have given the lie to some of this, especially if you count in direct injection SI engines (which are hybrids, i.e.they compress air, mix fuel and then create a spark.) But the last I heard, direct injection SI engines weren't exactly taking over the world. As for the Wankel well, unfortunate name probably didn't help but nor did the oil consumption.
Pining for the fjords
That's a bug.
I can't believe I tried everything but standard HTML
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