If Linux loses, then IBM will pay their $3 Billion of $50 Billion or whatever for damages, and that will be the end of it. Period.
No, that will be the end of it for IBM. It would be open season on going after other Linux vendors and kernel developers. They've already suggested they will be going after the BSD people after they're done with this.
I think it should be referred to as the GNU/Linux Operating Environment, and the Linux Operating System.
Excellent point. There is another case of a situation like this... Sun Solaris. For example, the OS is SunOS 5.8, and the Operating Environment is Solaris 8. SunOS 5.6 was Solaris 2.6, SunOS 5.7 was Solaris 7, and so on. So, let's say GNU/Linux is the operating environment and Linux is the OS.;-) Then take your pick and everyone will be right.
Which I read as "do your best to not use Linux for the time-being, and if you are be prepared to switch".
Makes sense. If Linux loses you're going to be doing some system shuffling. The safe bet for new deployments is Sun's Solaris which is a true licensed UNIX until Darl sues them after *BSD.
No, it's Fedora GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux is the operating system, Fedora is the distribution name. i.e. Debian GNU/Linux. I used to hate RMS for saying that shit, but it is sort of true. Without the GNU software Linux wouldn't be much of an OS.
What is this "Internet outage" the article is speaking of? Just switch to your backup provider if your primary is down. It talks about playing games... how the hell do you play games if your Internet access is cut off? Do they still make non-online-multiplayer games?
Every single perso in the US is now expected to get a degree from an ivy league school and get rich? 50 % of American students drop out of highschool yet somehow we are supposed to do something besides build refrigerators?
Yes Mr. Hitler, you are expected to get a real job and education these days. This isn't the 1940s anymore where a high school dropout art student can become a successful mass murdering dictator anymore. You're expected to bring real-world experience and a quality education to the table of modern governments before you can be expected to overthrow them and institute your policy of forced genocide. Fscking brownshirt slackers today think they can just waltz into the Reichstag and take over without any qualifications. You people make me sick.
What I find disturbing is the fact that people would consider a cheaply made shoe that cost less than $1 to make worth paying $130 for.
What I find disturbing are people who think that their $1 lottery ticket is worth $12 million. There are many many stupid people in this world. Half of them are below average intelligence.
The funny thing that these moron legislators don't understand is, if they could collect the tax on mass e-mailing then they could just as likely just outlaw sending UCE entirely and hold the people doing it responsible. The problem is it's nearly impossible to pinpoint who is sending all this garbage. Why would they pay the e-mail tax when they're already conducting fraud?
In any case, what the Chinese do have is MANUFACTURING. Isn't China the 1st manufacturer of computer & electronics? If not yet, then next year. When the Chinese come up with sub-500-euros notebooks and even sub-100 destop PCs, they CAN impose the format to content providers.
Wait a minute, which China are we talking about? The communist "People's Republic" of China, or Taiwan? I thought Taiwan already was one of the leaders in the pacific rim in manufacturing. All my cheap crappy shit always had made in Taiwan stamped on it. It's only natural that poorer Asian countries take over manufacturing roles that first world nations once held. We're moving into roles of controlling and distributing information and have no time or desire to concern ourselves with the physical devices used to distribute that data. Does a person care how their car works? No, you step on the gas and it goes. It's a tool and is manufactured by low income uneducated people for the benefit of the upper class information elite. Or at least that's how it SHOULD be if we could rid this world of those god damn labor unions who artificially inflate prices and wages in order to turn minimum wage jobs into $100k/year careers.
Why would a country pump billions into another independent country, one where the interference wouldn't be welcomed, instead of ensuring the economic prosperity of its' own people?
You know, that's really the best thing about the U.S.A. We're a selfless honorable country that wants what's best for the rest of the world and is willing to put our money and lives on the line to ensure the world is a better place. Not many other countries in the world would be willing to sacrifice all that the U.S. has offered over the past 100 years to the cause of promoting global freedom. Non-Americans should feel damn lucky this country is around or they'd be goose-stepping to the tune of the Third Reich or the evil Soviet empire right about now. Instead the U.S. offers democracy with no expectation of payback. We single-handedly rebuilt all of Europe with the Marshall plan and do we ever get any credit from the Europeans and their revised history? Hell no.
I was sure that Intel had announced plans to integrate it's 64bit "Yamhill" extensions into the Prescott chip which should be launched early next year. I think AMD is trying to wish it away.
You know, I haven't met anyone recently that has gone out of their way to buy an Intel processor. They may have been stuck with it in their desktop, but everyone I know that has built a system puts an AMD Athlon in it. I guess it could be price, but I think a little bit of it has to do with giving Intel the old "fuck you" for selling us massively overpriced chips all these years. It's ridiculous that they expected mid-range chips to go for $300-$400 just a few years ago while AMD was selling the same processor power for a third of that.
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Well 17 million $ / $699 = 24,321 (rounding up remainders), can SCO find 24,321 users to pay for the Linux license? Chances are that there are 24,321 corporate workstations that will be paid for should SCO win, so unfortunately SCO wins at this point.
This all sounds so very much like the bully at school coming along and bad-mouthing you on his Internet web site if you don't give him your lunch money.
Because of the various components distributed with Linux, there are a mass of patches to not only initially install, but there are also many services to turn on/off if used as a server with most default variant installations.
You're comparing apples and oranges here. On the Windows box you didn't shut off any unnecessary services yet activated a host based firewall. On Linux you're not activating a host based firewall and then complaining you have to shut off services to make it secure. Well of COURSE you do. Everyone knows the simplest way to mitigate your risks of exposure is to minimize the avenues of attack you present to the world. My Linux boxes only run what services I need them to run.. usually SSH and Apache and that's *it*. Port scans will result in nothing else running even if I chose not to turn on the netfilter firewall, which I do anyway. I could've just as easily left all the services running, enabled the netfilter with just port 80 and 22 open and been done. Set it up to auto-update via RHN or apt-get nightly and I don't have to worry about it either. So, I partially agree with you. Bad system administration is the reason systems get broken into followed closely by failure of vendors to supply timely patches (i.e. Sun is fscking HORRIBLE with this. I've sat on pins and needles until finally giving up and recompiling my own stuff because they wait up to 6 months to release critical patches if you don't have a service contract).
The java enterprise desktop is based on SuSe linux. It basically is SuSe with some value add-ons and support.
This is a massive triumph for open source! Or not? Sun's a late player to the game, comes up riding along on it's high horse, steals the hard work of the open source community, and then claims ownership of it to sell it to China. Interesting. Last time I checked, Sun was an overpriced, outdated, and obsolete proprietary UNIX vendor. Now all of a sudden they want to become a Linux vendor (for the 3rd time I might add.. they practically killed the Cobalt line, their Sun Linux support is nill, and now they want to kill a new product). When are people going to learn to ignore this dinosaur? They're irrelevent.
So as you can see, the latest versions of Windows & Office are definitely more secure
The problem is that nobody RUNS the latest versions of Windows and Office. Windows 2000 is the defacto Windows standard for us and there are new vulnerabilities every day it seems. Office 2000 is likewise the standard. Until 2005 rolls around I don't see Windows XP or Windows 2003 being anywhere other than extremely early adopters' machines.
And to think nerds once held the internet as a private refuge.
The funny thing is, what kind of insecure person feels they need to belittle someone else to make themselves feel better? That just seems kind of odd. The bullies are obviously the losers in this case.
Has VOIP missed it's window of opportunity thanks to the continued proliferation of cell phones and favorable calling plans? Both my wife and I have unlimited long distance built into our cellular plans which eliminates one of the biggest "plus's" for VOIP (international calling not withstanding).
Really? What provider? I'd wager your "unlimited long distance" just means it doesn't cost you anything except your normal local minute charge. That's where the phone companies are raping us these days. Gone are the days of the unlimited local calling plans apparently unless you want to stick with a crappy local-only cell carrier that has no long distance capability. When are cell companies going to offer $20/month unmetered calling 24/7? Keep your free long distance, I just want to use my phone for local calls.
However, it does make it illegal to circumvent copy-protection devices... in a few years, when DRM might becomes commonplace, it could mean that your rights to make copies for personal use are de facto taken away from you.
This is something a court is going to have to eventually decide. Is the right to make a backup for personal use more important than the manufacturer's right to copy protect their content? If so, will they say manufacturers will be forced to provide two copies of the media for every item shipped, one as a pristine backup and EXACT copy of the original? It's ridiculous I have the right to make a backup copy for personal use, yet doing so turns me into a criminal. These kinds of catch-22 situations are the epitome of bad laws.
By the way, I hate to respond to my own message, but if it's not obvious I'm playing devil's advocate with this. Obviously tightening the screws on a teen is just a great way for them to go nutzo on you and rebel. Still, having the computers in the family room instead of their bedroom is a much better idea. Chances are they're not going to be whackin it if there's a chance mom and grandma will walk in from shopping with the groceries.
A filter won't do any good unless you intend to block the entire internet.
Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying. Block ALL IP traffic unless you have an exemption for it. For example, Disney.com or other sanitized web sites could be permitted while search engines like Google could be allowed by just blocking the cache URL. Very easy actually. Remember, I'm talking about your children, not adults here. I have every right to prohibit my children from seeing anything I don't approve of. As for the SSH tunnel, again, that would be denied since it's not explicitly allowed.
By the way, putting a computer in any teen's room is just suicide and asking for trouble. Computers should be in an open family area where there's no way to lock a door to prevent others in the family from monitoring the content. I spent enough time sitting alone in my bedroom with my computer as a teenager to know what kind of sick fucked up shit a teenager will do. Pornography, warez, hacking. It's not something I'd want my kids to be doing.
That's a SWEET list of consumer goodies and I'd jump all over it if I knew that the minute I walked in the store 90% of that stuff wasn't already sold out. I'd love a 19" LCD for $430 or a 120 gig drive for $50, DVD burner for $80, etc. I'd buy almost everything on that list, IF they had it in stock, which they won't. So why even bother going if they only have 2 120 gig hard drives at that price? Those prices never seem to apply to rainchecks.
This is the type of evidence that should block such a purchase.
Why? Many people above have pointed out this article is not correct. The first results you get from MSN searches are sponsored links. Then if you hit next (or if there are no sponsored links) then you get the real search results.
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No, that will be the end of it for IBM. It would be open season on going after other Linux vendors and kernel developers. They've already suggested they will be going after the BSD people after they're done with this.
Excellent point. There is another case of a situation like this... Sun Solaris. For example, the OS is SunOS 5.8, and the Operating Environment is Solaris 8. SunOS 5.6 was Solaris 2.6, SunOS 5.7 was Solaris 7, and so on. So, let's say GNU/Linux is the operating environment and Linux is the OS. ;-) Then take your pick and everyone will be right.
Makes sense. If Linux loses you're going to be doing some system shuffling. The safe bet for new deployments is Sun's Solaris which is a true licensed UNIX until Darl sues them after *BSD.
No, it's Fedora GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux is the operating system, Fedora is the distribution name. i.e. Debian GNU/Linux. I used to hate RMS for saying that shit, but it is sort of true. Without the GNU software Linux wouldn't be much of an OS.
What is this "Internet outage" the article is speaking of? Just switch to your backup provider if your primary is down. It talks about playing games... how the hell do you play games if your Internet access is cut off? Do they still make non-online-multiplayer games?
Yes Mr. Hitler, you are expected to get a real job and education these days. This isn't the 1940s anymore where a high school dropout art student can become a successful mass murdering dictator anymore. You're expected to bring real-world experience and a quality education to the table of modern governments before you can be expected to overthrow them and institute your policy of forced genocide. Fscking brownshirt slackers today think they can just waltz into the Reichstag and take over without any qualifications. You people make me sick.
What I find disturbing are people who think that their $1 lottery ticket is worth $12 million. There are many many stupid people in this world. Half of them are below average intelligence.
The funny thing that these moron legislators don't understand is, if they could collect the tax on mass e-mailing then they could just as likely just outlaw sending UCE entirely and hold the people doing it responsible. The problem is it's nearly impossible to pinpoint who is sending all this garbage. Why would they pay the e-mail tax when they're already conducting fraud?
Wait a minute, which China are we talking about? The communist "People's Republic" of China, or Taiwan? I thought Taiwan already was one of the leaders in the pacific rim in manufacturing. All my cheap crappy shit always had made in Taiwan stamped on it. It's only natural that poorer Asian countries take over manufacturing roles that first world nations once held. We're moving into roles of controlling and distributing information and have no time or desire to concern ourselves with the physical devices used to distribute that data. Does a person care how their car works? No, you step on the gas and it goes. It's a tool and is manufactured by low income uneducated people for the benefit of the upper class information elite. Or at least that's how it SHOULD be if we could rid this world of those god damn labor unions who artificially inflate prices and wages in order to turn minimum wage jobs into $100k/year careers.
You know, that's really the best thing about the U.S.A. We're a selfless honorable country that wants what's best for the rest of the world and is willing to put our money and lives on the line to ensure the world is a better place. Not many other countries in the world would be willing to sacrifice all that the U.S. has offered over the past 100 years to the cause of promoting global freedom. Non-Americans should feel damn lucky this country is around or they'd be goose-stepping to the tune of the Third Reich or the evil Soviet empire right about now. Instead the U.S. offers democracy with no expectation of payback. We single-handedly rebuilt all of Europe with the Marshall plan and do we ever get any credit from the Europeans and their revised history? Hell no.
Great Seinfeld episode. :-)
You know, I haven't met anyone recently that has gone out of their way to buy an Intel processor. They may have been stuck with it in their desktop, but everyone I know that has built a system puts an AMD Athlon in it. I guess it could be price, but I think a little bit of it has to do with giving Intel the old "fuck you" for selling us massively overpriced chips all these years. It's ridiculous that they expected mid-range chips to go for $300-$400 just a few years ago while AMD was selling the same processor power for a third of that.
This all sounds so very much like the bully at school coming along and bad-mouthing you on his Internet web site if you don't give him your lunch money.
Snotty-overpriced-hardware-buying-nouveau-art-deco -loving-yuppie scumbag. But hey, I can say that since I'm a Mac user too. :-)
You're comparing apples and oranges here. On the Windows box you didn't shut off any unnecessary services yet activated a host based firewall. On Linux you're not activating a host based firewall and then complaining you have to shut off services to make it secure. Well of COURSE you do. Everyone knows the simplest way to mitigate your risks of exposure is to minimize the avenues of attack you present to the world. My Linux boxes only run what services I need them to run.. usually SSH and Apache and that's *it*. Port scans will result in nothing else running even if I chose not to turn on the netfilter firewall, which I do anyway. I could've just as easily left all the services running, enabled the netfilter with just port 80 and 22 open and been done. Set it up to auto-update via RHN or apt-get nightly and I don't have to worry about it either. So, I partially agree with you. Bad system administration is the reason systems get broken into followed closely by failure of vendors to supply timely patches (i.e. Sun is fscking HORRIBLE with this. I've sat on pins and needles until finally giving up and recompiling my own stuff because they wait up to 6 months to release critical patches if you don't have a service contract).
This is a massive triumph for open source! Or not? Sun's a late player to the game, comes up riding along on it's high horse, steals the hard work of the open source community, and then claims ownership of it to sell it to China. Interesting. Last time I checked, Sun was an overpriced, outdated, and obsolete proprietary UNIX vendor. Now all of a sudden they want to become a Linux vendor (for the 3rd time I might add.. they practically killed the Cobalt line, their Sun Linux support is nill, and now they want to kill a new product). When are people going to learn to ignore this dinosaur? They're irrelevent.
The problem is that nobody RUNS the latest versions of Windows and Office. Windows 2000 is the defacto Windows standard for us and there are new vulnerabilities every day it seems. Office 2000 is likewise the standard. Until 2005 rolls around I don't see Windows XP or Windows 2003 being anywhere other than extremely early adopters' machines.
No matter how rich that guy gets he still reminds me of that stupid geek from Revenge of the Nerds. I guess money can't buy everything.
The funny thing is, what kind of insecure person feels they need to belittle someone else to make themselves feel better? That just seems kind of odd. The bullies are obviously the losers in this case.
Really? What provider? I'd wager your "unlimited long distance" just means it doesn't cost you anything except your normal local minute charge. That's where the phone companies are raping us these days. Gone are the days of the unlimited local calling plans apparently unless you want to stick with a crappy local-only cell carrier that has no long distance capability. When are cell companies going to offer $20/month unmetered calling 24/7? Keep your free long distance, I just want to use my phone for local calls.
This is something a court is going to have to eventually decide. Is the right to make a backup for personal use more important than the manufacturer's right to copy protect their content? If so, will they say manufacturers will be forced to provide two copies of the media for every item shipped, one as a pristine backup and EXACT copy of the original? It's ridiculous I have the right to make a backup copy for personal use, yet doing so turns me into a criminal. These kinds of catch-22 situations are the epitome of bad laws.
By the way, I hate to respond to my own message, but if it's not obvious I'm playing devil's advocate with this. Obviously tightening the screws on a teen is just a great way for them to go nutzo on you and rebel. Still, having the computers in the family room instead of their bedroom is a much better idea. Chances are they're not going to be whackin it if there's a chance mom and grandma will walk in from shopping with the groceries.
Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying. Block ALL IP traffic unless you have an exemption for it. For example, Disney.com or other sanitized web sites could be permitted while search engines like Google could be allowed by just blocking the cache URL. Very easy actually. Remember, I'm talking about your children, not adults here. I have every right to prohibit my children from seeing anything I don't approve of. As for the SSH tunnel, again, that would be denied since it's not explicitly allowed.
By the way, putting a computer in any teen's room is just suicide and asking for trouble. Computers should be in an open family area where there's no way to lock a door to prevent others in the family from monitoring the content. I spent enough time sitting alone in my bedroom with my computer as a teenager to know what kind of sick fucked up shit a teenager will do. Pornography, warez, hacking. It's not something I'd want my kids to be doing.
That's a SWEET list of consumer goodies and I'd jump all over it if I knew that the minute I walked in the store 90% of that stuff wasn't already sold out. I'd love a 19" LCD for $430 or a 120 gig drive for $50, DVD burner for $80, etc. I'd buy almost everything on that list, IF they had it in stock, which they won't. So why even bother going if they only have 2 120 gig hard drives at that price? Those prices never seem to apply to rainchecks.
Why? Many people above have pointed out this article is not correct. The first results you get from MSN searches are sponsored links. Then if you hit next (or if there are no sponsored links) then you get the real search results.