I've been using the MacOS X port for years via X11. I was obviously quite happy that 3.0 had a native MacOS X version. However, version 3.0 is severely lacking in terms of MacOS X UI compliance. Example: the command and control keys are wrongly used by OpenOffice (wrongly = different than in all other apps on MacOS X). I learned via this link provided in another/. story yesterday, that there are 47 issues directly targeting MacOS X and that the keyboard shortcuts have been fixed it seems. Great! Hope the 3.1 will be become a real good software for the Mac!:-)
Two other very related open source SAR/radar tools: RAT, from the project's website: "Our motivation to start the development of RAT is that modern remote sensing software like Erdas Image or ENVI include only some basic SAR functionality. Advanced algorithms in SAR polarimetry (PolSAR), interferometry (InSAR) and polarimetric interferometry (PolInSAR) have to be implemented by oneself. So we descided to start the development of RAT. RAT should bring modern SAR algorithms to a wider user-base by simplifying in particular the data handling and processing of complex SAR data."... and Optiks: From the article: "Opticks is used by scientists and analysts within the Department of Defense Intelligence Community to analyze remote sensing data and produce actionable intelligence. Opticks supports Imagery, Motion Imagery, Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR), and multispectral and hyperspectral remote sensing data." From the OSGeo post: "A couple of observations: 1. The Contributors Agreement (click on the Contributors Agreement link on the left side of the page) is likely rather intimidating for the average open source contributor. 2. It doesn't use GDAL (although it does have OSSIM as a dependency)."
I think the throttling done applies to all up/down data and applies for 24h after you close the torrent sharing pipes. That's what I've been told but haven't confirmed myself. I'm not using Bell Canada directly (a reseller), and I guess their throttling strategies change from place to place.
You can download a smaller version here. It's a 176MB.MKV file.
I'm also on Bell for DSL and I'm currently torrenting it at 600KBps.
Thanks for the mkv. That's what I was looking for.
As for your download speed, I'm surprised and curious. I really generally only have a max of 30k/s, but that's for week day nights, otherwise, it is much slower! Take a look at this Bad ISPs wiki page for Canada, Bell is at 5+. Whatever that means, I failed to circumvent (for legal downloads of course) the throttling. There's bypass solutions but that has not worked for me...
I wasn't able to find a smaller version than the 2,92 gigs one (the.torrent on Mininova).
Since I indirectly use Bell Canada's network, I'm throttled to a max of 30k/s even if this is a legal download. 2,92 gigs feels too much to me when that documentary could probably be nice enough to watch at about 700 megs... If anyone finds or publishes a smaller version, please let me/us know!:-)
One province forced the entire country to have to be effectively bilingual. Then when that province wanted to secede, the First Nations who owned the land that 2/3 of their hydroelectric power came from, regardless of actual population numbers, refused to go along, and stopped it cold.
Are you trying to be funny? You've got modded "Interesting", so let me set some records strait. First, the "entire country" is not "effectively bilingual". It is officially bilingual as a whole, yes, but try speaking French in most parts of Canada outside the Province of Quebec... Even in several areas of Montreal, the biggest city of the francophone province (where I live), it can sometimes be hard to be served in French!
Second, as a French Canadian myself, I'm convinced First Nations did not play a big role at the last referendum. Sure, they were part of a very large equation, but clearly did not "stopped it cold" as you claim. And they don't "own" the 2/3 of electricity-providing land of the province.
I'll say that IMHO every MacOS prior to 10 sucked pretty badly
IMHO, MacOS 7-8-9 still provided a nicer computer experience than the competition at that moment, but, the gap was seriously closing and there was a real significant costs of not being 100% compatible with the ubiquitous main stream OS.
"So, how long before I can use my OpenID to post on Slashdot?"
For the minor Slashcode website I run (see sig - thousands of unique IP addresses reached daily, but still very minor), a project with one partner requires our Slash website to be OpenID-friendly.
We have little to no resources, so I can't provide any timeline or even if it will happen from us. But I sure want to. See also the slashcode-dev mailing list to learn more.
With the new index, you *can* actually mod up and down stories directly on main page. There's no flamebait tag, but there's slownewsday and stupid ones.
Joking aside, Microsoft is *very serious* about the geospatial involvement. Here's a list of their recent geospatial products and services. But more to the point, this week, Microsoft launched Virtual Earth 6.2. Make no mistake, it's a huge improvement and offers elements Google Earth and virtual globes competitors (such as the open source NASA World Wind) don't yet.
Learn more here, and my summary: "Microsoft just released Virtual Earth 6.2 and Virtual Earth Web Services 1.0. The quantity of new features is huge and are worth taking a look at, here's the highlights but follow the link for the details: " # Maps for Mobile Devices. # Birdâ(TM)s Eye Views and Birdâ(TM)s Eye Hybrid. # Aerial Imagery. # 3D Imagery. # Geocoding and Reverse Geocoding. # International Geocoding. # Localized Directions. # Localized Maps. # Extended International Parsing Capabilities. # Expanded Number of Rooftop Views. # Near-Matching Capabilities. # Imagery Metadata. # New Virtual Earth Web Services. # One-Click Directions. # Shapes and Shape Layers. # Pushpin Clustering. # Landmark-Based Routing. # Driving Directions with Traffic-Based Routing. # Walking Directions. # Multipoint Routing. # Traffic Reports. # GeoRSS Feeds. " I expect geoblog reactions in the coming days and will share them with our users. See also related stories below, Microsoft has been very busy lately with their geoservices."
I keep hoping that Google will start releaseing some of their data into the public domain/GPL/Creative Commons. That Google spy van must be gathering data like speed limits, which streets are one way. Maybe even which are paved and not.
You're right for StreetView (you can still use Google's StreetView data in OpenLayers.org for example), otherwise, Google Maps/Earth licenses data from others (Tele Atlas/NAVTEQ/DigitalGlobe/GeoEye/etc), so they are not the ultimate geodata owner (yet?;-).
One place missing GPL application is a really good navigation system.
Yes but... do you really need this? When you'll buy your GPS-enabled navigation system (e.g. from Garmin, Magellan, TomTom, etc), you'll be given appropriate software that works with the hardware you just purchased (even the iPhone has (in dev) it's turn by turn nav syst software). You don't "need" to install an open source nav syst.
That said, I agree, a solid open source nav syst would be nice. Roadnav is an example, but I think it's not as mature as commercial offers. The data for such an open source software project already exists on OpenStreetMap.org.
Some precisions on my summary. DigitalGlobe is obviously not the only other remote sensing data provider, but it's GeoEye main competitor in civil high-resolution multispectral remote sensing. GeoEye is itself the merging of two other previous major players on the same playing field, OrbImage and Space Imaging.
As for my claim of an agreement between DigitalGlobe and Google, see this two years old entry. The original archive for the DG message is here (the link on/geo does not work anymore).
One of the obvious questions that comes to mind is to which extent these exclusivity deals have negative impacts on other remote sensing imagery customers, small or big.
Another question is; does Google really needs such a deal to provide the best webmapping and virtual globes-related tools?
I actually bought an iPhone without the data plan and just a 3-year $20 voice plan.
From Rogers.com, I learned that the lowest contract that could be attached to an iPhone is 60$/month (for Ottawa and Montreal). Can you tell me (us:-) how I can get the iPhone with a 20$/month voice-only plan? I could be interested (my old iPod mini is dying and I was thinking about a Touch too).
Google continues to crank out new services, products, APIs, tools, and more. It's really quite staggering, but they do have the cash and brains to do it. But the investments they make are huge. I'm talking about money, time and brainpower. Working within the geospatial domain (a blend of GIS, remote sensing, GPS, virtual globes, webmapping and much more) and running a website about it, clearly the "newcomers" (mainly Google, Microsoft and Yahoo) with what has been often called neogeography are making serious inroads in traditional GIS software providers such as ESRI. (rejoice/. users, open source is also making serious inroads there too)
The thing is, neogeography *is* useful and efficient for many tasks. Not everybody needs "a real" powerful GIS to visualize and analyse geodata. That's why I can believe this rumored Google Ocean will be attractive to many oceanography scientists (as well to hobbyists, of course). See this recent article named "Google Earth, GIS, and the Great Divide: A new and simple method for sharing paleontological data"
http://www.food-force.com/ Made by the U.N. Free, MacOS X or Windows. (sorry no Linux afaik) Probably the best one in my list for the 6-8 years old.
http://www.tqworld.com/ - Tranquility. After years and years, this game has something no other game offers. Well suited for the youngsters. Free, but not open source.
http://www.stopdisastersgame.org/ U.N. too. Free and web-based. Excellent. Probably best for 8 years old (older ones of your range). Surprisingly informative.
http://www.stepmania.com/ Not sure that ones counts as edutainment, but it sure is good for the children! Open source and available for all platforms.
http://www.openttd.org/ A railroad tycoon open source clone (gosh I'm getting old;-). Suitable for your oldest ones?
I had a few mod points to spend and clicked before it was modded troll. To my total surprise, that link launched X11 (along with numerous popups). How can this be possible? See how naive I can be: since I surfed with Safari 3.1.1 on a up-to-date mac (don't hate me too much, I use Debian at work;-), I though nothing really bad could happen. I don't think anything bad actually happened, but how come can X11 be launched by a website?! Thanks for any explanation:-D
Except for the missing ads - thanks to Ad Block+ I recently switched to Safari as main browser (at home, work = Firefox under Debian) for various reasons, and one of the software that made that switch enjoyable is http://safariadblock.sourceforge.net/... (much easier to use than PithHelmet in my opinion, and open source)
I found these one useful too: http://www.apple.com/business/videotips/ you can subscribe to the videocast. While most video tips are things I knew about, some are truly useful and well hidden features (oops?). The best part is probably the short length of the videotips themselves: 1 minute per week is something I can afford.
No? There are commercial applications...
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I disagree. OSM is very useful in many areas, including where it is hard to find maps (try Baghdad for example). With the recent addition of TIGER data for the whole U.S., OSM became useful even in the U.S.
this project is lllloooooonnnnggg ways off from being useful everywhere This is obviously not true when considering there have been commercial applications of OSM for a long time (Isle of Wight - October 2006). See also this related wrap-up entry.
I am amongst the ones who believe we're only seeing the beginning of OSM everywhere. Contrary to your comment, I believe it is happening and will not take that long to reach some level of overall maturity. As to why is doesn't need an army of volunteers? Because, as done with the TIGER dataset, datasets are directly piped into OSM, as done in the Netherlands last year.
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I agree, I didn't *see* anything listed about the broken python support either. This is preventing me from using the Zotero citation plugin.
It's there, in the link I provided. See. Yes, this has been fixed.
I've been using the MacOS X port for years via X11. I was obviously quite happy that 3.0 had a native MacOS X version. However, version 3.0 is severely lacking in terms of MacOS X UI compliance. Example: the command and control keys are wrongly used by OpenOffice (wrongly = different than in all other apps on MacOS X). I learned via this link provided in another /. story yesterday, that there are 47 issues directly targeting MacOS X and that the keyboard shortcuts have been fixed it seems. Great! Hope the 3.1 will be become a real good software for the Mac! :-)
Two other very related open source SAR/radar tools: RAT, from the project's website: "Our motivation to start the development of RAT is that modern remote sensing software like Erdas Image or ENVI include only some basic SAR functionality. Advanced algorithms in SAR polarimetry (PolSAR), interferometry (InSAR) and polarimetric interferometry (PolInSAR) have to be implemented by oneself. So we descided to start the development of RAT. RAT should bring modern SAR algorithms to a wider user-base by simplifying in particular the data handling and processing of complex SAR data." ... and Optiks: From the article: "Opticks is used by scientists and analysts within the Department of Defense Intelligence Community to analyze remote sensing data and produce actionable intelligence. Opticks supports Imagery, Motion Imagery, Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR), and multispectral and hyperspectral remote sensing data." From the OSGeo post: "A couple of observations: 1. The Contributors Agreement (click on the Contributors Agreement link on the left side of the page) is likely rather intimidating for the average open source contributor. 2. It doesn't use GDAL (although it does have OSSIM as a dependency)."
Shameless (really) plug, many users interested in OpenStreetMap and the iPhone location awareness applications will be interested by the site in my sig. Happy Christmas!
I think the throttling done applies to all up/down data and applies for 24h after you close the torrent sharing pipes. That's what I've been told but haven't confirmed myself. I'm not using Bell Canada directly (a reseller), and I guess their throttling strategies change from place to place.
You can download a smaller version here. It's a 176MB .MKV file.
I'm also on Bell for DSL and I'm currently torrenting it at 600KBps.
Thanks for the mkv. That's what I was looking for.
As for your download speed, I'm surprised and curious. I really generally only have a max of 30k/s, but that's for week day nights, otherwise, it is much slower! Take a look at this Bad ISPs wiki page for Canada, Bell is at 5+. Whatever that means, I failed to circumvent (for legal downloads of course) the throttling. There's bypass solutions but that has not worked for me...
I wasn't able to find a smaller version than the 2,92 gigs one (the .torrent on Mininova).
Since I indirectly use Bell Canada's network, I'm throttled to a max of 30k/s even if this is a legal download. 2,92 gigs feels too much to me when that documentary could probably be nice enough to watch at about 700 megs... If anyone finds or publishes a smaller version, please let me/us know! :-)
One province forced the entire country to have to be effectively bilingual. Then when that province wanted to secede, the First Nations who owned the land that 2/3 of their hydroelectric power came from, regardless of actual population numbers, refused to go along, and stopped it cold.
Are you trying to be funny? You've got modded "Interesting", so let me set some records strait. First, the "entire country" is not "effectively bilingual". It is officially bilingual as a whole, yes, but try speaking French in most parts of Canada outside the Province of Quebec... Even in several areas of Montreal, the biggest city of the francophone province (where I live), it can sometimes be hard to be served in French!
Second, as a French Canadian myself, I'm convinced First Nations did not play a big role at the last referendum. Sure, they were part of a very large equation, but clearly did not "stopped it cold" as you claim. And they don't "own" the 2/3 of electricity-providing land of the province.
I'll say that IMHO every MacOS prior to 10 sucked pretty badly
IMHO, MacOS 7-8-9 still provided a nicer computer experience than the competition at that moment, but, the gap was seriously closing and there was a real significant costs of not being 100% compatible with the ubiquitous main stream OS.
I of course wish them good luck. One of the last commercial attempts to do this, Dash Express, recently revealed it did no go as well as originally planned.
I submitted a project similar to, but much better of course ;-), than CueCat for Google's 10 to the 100 challenge...
"So, how long before I can use my OpenID to post on Slashdot?"
For the minor Slashcode website I run (see sig - thousands of unique IP addresses reached daily, but still very minor), a project with one partner requires our Slash website to be OpenID-friendly.
We have little to no resources, so I can't provide any timeline or even if it will happen from us. But I sure want to. See also the slashcode-dev mailing list to learn more.
With the new index, you *can* actually mod up and down stories directly on main page. There's no flamebait tag, but there's slownewsday and stupid ones.
Well. Isn't that spatial.
Nope, it's VerySpatial! ;-)
Joking aside, Microsoft is *very serious* about the geospatial involvement. Here's a list of their recent geospatial products and services. But more to the point, this week, Microsoft launched Virtual Earth 6.2. Make no mistake, it's a huge improvement and offers elements Google Earth and virtual globes competitors (such as the open source NASA World Wind) don't yet.
Just take a look at the new 3D clouds in Virtual Earth which are real-time weather based, this is impressive.
Learn more here, and my summary:
"Microsoft just released Virtual Earth 6.2 and Virtual Earth Web Services 1.0. The quantity of new features is huge and are worth taking a look at, here's the highlights but follow the link for the details: " # Maps for Mobile Devices. # Birdâ(TM)s Eye Views and Birdâ(TM)s Eye Hybrid. # Aerial Imagery. # 3D Imagery. # Geocoding and Reverse Geocoding. # International Geocoding. # Localized Directions. # Localized Maps. # Extended International Parsing Capabilities. # Expanded Number of Rooftop Views. # Near-Matching Capabilities. # Imagery Metadata. # New Virtual Earth Web Services. # One-Click Directions. # Shapes and Shape Layers. # Pushpin Clustering. # Landmark-Based Routing. # Driving Directions with Traffic-Based Routing. # Walking Directions. # Multipoint Routing. # Traffic Reports. # GeoRSS Feeds. " I expect geoblog reactions in the coming days and will share them with our users. See also related stories below, Microsoft has been very busy lately with their geoservices."
I keep hoping that Google will start releaseing some of their data into the public domain/GPL/Creative Commons.
That Google spy van must be gathering data like speed limits, which streets are one way. Maybe even which are paved and not.
You're right for StreetView (you can still use Google's StreetView data in OpenLayers.org for example), otherwise, Google Maps/Earth licenses data from others (Tele Atlas/NAVTEQ/DigitalGlobe/GeoEye/etc), so they are not the ultimate geodata owner (yet? ;-).
One place missing GPL application is a really good navigation system.
Yes but... do you really need this? When you'll buy your GPS-enabled navigation system (e.g. from Garmin, Magellan, TomTom, etc), you'll be given appropriate software that works with the hardware you just purchased (even the iPhone has (in dev) it's turn by turn nav syst software). You don't "need" to install an open source nav syst.
That said, I agree, a solid open source nav syst would be nice. Roadnav is an example, but I think it's not as mature as commercial offers. The data for such an open source software project already exists on OpenStreetMap.org.
Some precisions on my summary. DigitalGlobe is obviously not the only other remote sensing data provider, but it's GeoEye main competitor in civil high-resolution multispectral remote sensing. GeoEye is itself the merging of two other previous major players on the same playing field, OrbImage and Space Imaging.
As for my claim of an agreement between DigitalGlobe and Google, see this two years old entry. The original archive for the DG message is here (the link on /geo does not work anymore).
One of the obvious questions that comes to mind is to which extent these exclusivity deals have negative impacts on other remote sensing imagery customers, small or big.
Another question is; does Google really needs such a deal to provide the best webmapping and virtual globes-related tools?
I actually bought an iPhone without the data plan and just a 3-year $20 voice plan.
From Rogers.com, I learned that the lowest contract that could be attached to an iPhone is 60$/month (for Ottawa and Montreal). Can you tell me (us :-) how I can get the iPhone with a 20$/month voice-only plan? I could be interested (my old iPod mini is dying and I was thinking about a Touch too).
This doesn't seem to have been a particularly well-handled, or deeply-sincere, attempt by Microsoft... so what were they really doing?
I don't know, but am I the only thinking Microsoft lost credibility in the process? Am I just not understanding what this was all about?I'm happy because it means more competition, but I admit I'm also somewhat confused as you are about what they are really doing...
Maybe it really is about some high-level finance strategy that only people in the know can grasp?
The thing is, neogeography *is* useful and efficient for many tasks. Not everybody needs "a real" powerful GIS to visualize and analyse geodata. That's why I can believe this rumored Google Ocean will be attractive to many oceanography scientists (as well to hobbyists, of course). See this recent article named "Google Earth, GIS, and the Great Divide: A new and simple method for sharing paleontological data"
Here's the educative games I suggest.
;-). Suitable for your oldest ones?
http://www.food-force.com/ Made by the U.N. Free, MacOS X or Windows. (sorry no Linux afaik) Probably the best one in my list for the 6-8 years old.
http://www.tqworld.com/ - Tranquility. After years and years, this game has something no other game offers. Well suited for the youngsters. Free, but not open source.
http://www.stopdisastersgame.org/ U.N. too. Free and web-based. Excellent. Probably best for 8 years old (older ones of your range). Surprisingly informative.
http://www.stepmania.com/ Not sure that ones counts as edutainment, but it sure is good for the children! Open source and available for all platforms.
http://www.openttd.org/ A railroad tycoon open source clone (gosh I'm getting old
For the curious ones, here's the other worthy (subjective) open source games I discovered with time. http://del.icio.us/Satri/game+opensource
I had a few mod points to spend and clicked before it was modded troll. To my total surprise, that link launched X11 (along with numerous popups). How can this be possible? See how naive I can be: since I surfed with Safari 3.1.1 on a up-to-date mac (don't hate me too much, I use Debian at work ;-), I though nothing really bad could happen. I don't think anything bad actually happened, but how come can X11 be launched by a website?! Thanks for any explanation :-D
Ok, I'm late on that one. But really worth is the GEB 6-minutes video demonstration of the new features.
Here's more info, well, a copy of my post of the site from my sig:
Mentioned earlier this week, here's the official announcement and a description of a new feature, 3D building swooping. The release provoked a lot of reactions and writings in the geoblogs. Here's the GEB entries on his first impressions [with screenshots], a video demonstration, well worth the 6 minutes (really), a short explanation of the new navigation widgets and some final thoughts on GE 4.3. Ogle Earth also shares his comments and discuss the differences between atlases and mirror worlds. Interesting to note that not everyone is pleased with some of the changes, with GE being dubbed the AOL of the Geoweb. APB also links to a IW article on the practical uses of Google StreetView.
I found these one useful too: http://www.apple.com/business/videotips/
you can subscribe to the videocast. While most video tips are things I knew about, some are truly useful and well hidden features (oops?). The best part is probably the short length of the videotips themselves: 1 minute per week is something I can afford.
And let's not forget the Guided Tour. 30 minutes, but worthed: http://www.apple.com/macosx/guidedtour/
And while I'm a it, there's a new section this year: http://www.apple.com/findouthow/
I am amongst the ones who believe we're only seeing the beginning of OSM everywhere. Contrary to your comment, I believe it is happening and will not take that long to reach some level of overall maturity. As to why is doesn't need an army of volunteers? Because, as done with the TIGER dataset, datasets are directly piped into OSM, as done in the Netherlands last year.