This has very little to do with anything real except control. What do most people do when they believe they need to be in control but don't understand what's going on? They exert control over the trivial things they do understand.
EXCELLENT point... somebody mod the parent up, please! This may be the most "insightful" post I've ever read on/.
It's one thing to expect people to "dress up" for a special occasion like a customer visit... but there's no good reason for it otherwise.
Note that I am assuming an environment like my own office, where there are few occasions where the customer actually comes into our office for anything.
All this proves is that some people are stupid enough to believe that the way you dress has anything to do with the way you work... or anything else meaningful for that matter.
At least for someone who does not have to deal face to face with customers, it really shouldn't matter whether they come into work wearing a suit and tie, or ripped jeans, a Motley Crue t-shirt and sneakers... as long as the work gets done.
When management learns to start focusing on things (productivity, quality of work) that really matter, and not superficial bullshit (clothes, hair, etc.) it will be better for everybody.
I've always heard this too, but a few moments of thinking about it will illustrate why it's not likely to be even "low level" proof of anything....
For you see, there's no way to prove that what is inside the envelope, was inside of it *when it was mailed.* You could easily mail yourself an unsealed envelope, and then insert whatever you want, at any arbitrary later date.
It might not be a bad thing to do anyway, but I wouldn't put much stock at all in it....
In all seriousness, are there a lot of Bon Jovi fans under 30?
I would certainly think so. I'm under 30, and Bon Jovi (and old style metal / hard rock in general ) were still "cool" or "in" or "hip" or what-the-fuck-ever, through my senior year in H.S. Freshmen that year would have been 13/14 depending on when their birthday's fell... that was 11 years ago, and that style of music went out of vogue shortly after I graduated... so, I figure there are plenty of Bon Jovi fans from about 24/25 and up...
Bon Jovi's last album seemed to do pretty well, even getting some video time on MTV, and since MTV caters to the younger crowd, apparently there are quite a few fairly young Bon Jovi fans.
That rule is so out of date it's ridiculous. There probably aren't two C++ compilers in the world in common usage that don't have template support now. And any compiler so old and broken that you can't use the STL with it, probably has so many other bugs, quirks, and standards issues, that it's not worth using anyway.
Maybe someday our economy will change to the point that they automatically deduct money from our accounts without our knowledge or permission and ship stuff to us?
What, you mean you haven't had that happen yet? I just got off the phone today, with some f'd up outfit called consumerinfo.com, trying to get UN-signed up for some subscription service that I have NO idea how I got signed up for, and for which they deducted 80 bucks from my checking account.
The scary thing is, when I called them, they asked for my social security #, mother maiden name, birthdate, etc. to verify my identity, just like my bank would... no how the f#@k did those guys get all that in the first place????
UnitedLinux is never going to catch on anyway. This is probably going to turn out to be a GREAT deal... for Red Hat and Mandrake. The competition are basically taking themselves out of the game with this move.
Dictionary definitions of discrimination do not apply in this context.
Justification?
A juvenile has no rights under most western law, in fact, juveniles are interpretted as property.
That may be true, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's *right*.
A juvenile is usually defined as a person lacking the cognitive skills to conduct themselves appropriately in "adult" society; that is make rational, reasonable, decisions in accordance with the law, and the ability to enter into binding agreements.
And you believe that calendar age is in any way, shape, or form an automatic guarantee of whether or not an individual has "the cognitive skills to conduct themselves appropriately in "adult" society; that is make rational, reasonable, decisions in accordance with the law, and the ability to enter into binding agreements?"
I don't think so. Discrimination based on age is discrimination just as much as discrimination based on sex, race, religion, nationality, etc. Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right.
Probably the only operating system currently being used commercially that was actually developed from the ground up for commercial use, not in the theoretical world of a university (OK, I'm a mainframe bigot:-) ).
It's not exactly a mainframe OS, but what about OS/400? Wasn't it developed strictly for commercial use?
What is it going to take for us to work and get people into office who will actually try to change things, instead of sending yet another stream of RepubliCrats in to keep the system going exactly like it is?
Well, for starters, check out the Libertarian Party. They are the real alternative to the "big two"; who are essentially just opposite sides of the same coin.
__FILE__ and __LINE__ can be used in a #define macro for easy debugging
Good idea! In fact, carrying that idea a little further.. how about an entire book on the C/C++ pre-processor? I know there are a lot of neat things that can be done with the pre-processor, but I've yet to find a GOOD reference to using the damn thing. And I probably own 2/3's of the C/C++ books in print!
How about a *GOOD* book on ADO programming using C++??? Right now, documentation on doing this is extremely sparse, and what docs there are are confusing and/or poorly written, to the point of being useless.
Considering that there are like three entirely different ways to use ADO in C++, it's confusing as hell piecing together what you need to know, from documentation that assumes you're using VB and only gives a token nod to C++ programmers.
really would love a good book on hacking Mozilla...
YES, YES, YES!!!! Give this man a cookie!!!!
The World absolutely needs more books on Mozilla programming. There are only two or three out now, and one of those is hopelessly out of date.
Books on the technologies underlying Mozilla, XPCom, XUL, etc. would be great. But what would also be great would be something like "hacking mozilla for dummies"... something that provides an overview of the Mozilla code, and enough of a tutorial / introduction, to help a newbie get started contributing to Mozilla.
That has to take the cake as the most idiotic thing I've EVER read on Slashdot. Believe me, there are plenty of times when breaking the law is not only "right", as in "OK", but is rather the "Right Thing To Do."
I suggest we keep these things in mind as we continue to hunt down terrorists. Its important not to forget the freedoms that make this country worth fighting for.
Good point. However, I fear that far too many people have *already* forgotten those freedoms. If we keep going down the path that we're on now, the day *will* come when our government must be overthrown, and rebuilt with a new, fresh focus on those ideals that have always made America unique.
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This has very little to do with anything real except control. What do most people do when they believe they need to be in control but don't understand what's going on? They exert control over the trivial things they do understand.
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EXCELLENT point... somebody mod the parent up, please! This may be the most "insightful" post I've ever read on
It's one thing to expect people to "dress up" for a special occasion like a customer visit... but there's no good reason for it otherwise.
Note that I am assuming an environment like my own office, where there are few occasions where the customer actually comes into our office for anything.
All this proves is that some people are stupid enough to believe that the way you dress has anything to do with the way you work... or anything else meaningful for that matter.
At least for someone who does not have to deal face to face with customers, it really shouldn't matter whether they come into work wearing a suit and tie, or ripped jeans, a Motley Crue t-shirt and sneakers... as long as the work gets done.
When management learns to start focusing on things (productivity, quality of work) that really matter, and not superficial bullshit (clothes, hair, etc.) it will be better for everybody.
I hesitate to call any bank a Saint, but in at least this one regard, First Citizens are more Saint than Sinner.
I've always heard this too, but a few moments of thinking about it will illustrate why it's not likely to be even "low level" proof of anything....
For you see, there's no way to prove that what is inside the envelope, was inside of it *when it was mailed.* You could easily mail yourself an unsealed envelope, and then insert whatever you want, at any arbitrary later date.
It might not be a bad thing to do anyway, but I wouldn't put much stock at all in it....
In all seriousness, are there a lot of Bon Jovi fans under 30?
I would certainly think so. I'm under 30, and Bon Jovi (and old style metal / hard rock in general ) were still "cool" or "in" or "hip" or what-the-fuck-ever, through my senior year in H.S. Freshmen that year would have been 13/14 depending on when their birthday's fell... that was 11 years ago, and that style of music went out of vogue shortly after I graduated... so, I figure there are plenty of Bon Jovi fans from about 24/25 and up...
Bon Jovi's last album seemed to do pretty well, even getting some video time on MTV, and since MTV caters to the younger crowd, apparently there are quite a few fairly young Bon Jovi fans.
Life was so easy back then.
Wasn't it, though?
What can the new mozilla do that I can't already do in Opera or IE?!?!?
That you can't do in Opera? Don't know, I don't use Opera.
That you can't do in IE:
1. Tabbed Browsing
2. Use mouse gestures
3. use radial context menus
4. use type ahead search (ala Emacs)
5. Use Mycroft search plugins to search from the URL bar or Sidebar.
6. Use other neat Sidebar plug-ins
7. use custom themes to "skin" the browser.
8. chat on IRC
I'm sure there are other things as well, but those are the first ones that come to mind.
That rule is so out of date it's ridiculous. There probably aren't two C++ compilers in the world in common usage that don't have template support now. And any compiler so old and broken that you can't use the STL with it, probably has so many other bugs, quirks, and standards issues, that it's not worth using anyway.
If you're talking about what I think you are, there is an active effort underway to implement this very feature.
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Check out this bug:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236
for more details...
If you're talking about something else... well, did you *really* expect to find actual useful information in a
Somebody please mod the parent up... this is the single MOST insightful post I've EVER seen on slashdot....
Likewise... I've been using TextPad daily for over a year now, and have never experience either problem described above, even once.
Maybe someday our economy will change to the point that they automatically deduct money from our accounts without our knowledge or permission and ship stuff to us?
What, you mean you haven't had that happen yet? I just got off the phone today, with some f'd up outfit called consumerinfo.com, trying to get UN-signed up for some subscription service that I have NO idea how I got signed up for, and for which they deducted 80 bucks from my checking account.
The scary thing is, when I called them, they asked for my social security #, mother maiden name, birthdate, etc. to verify my identity, just like my bank would... no how the f#@k did those guys get all that in the first place????
UnitedLinux is never going to catch on anyway. This is probably going to turn out to be a GREAT deal... for Red Hat and Mandrake. The competition are basically taking themselves out of the game with this move.
Dictionary definitions of discrimination do not apply in this context.
Justification?
A juvenile has no rights under most western law, in fact, juveniles are interpretted as property.
That may be true, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's *right*.
A juvenile is usually defined as a person lacking the cognitive skills to conduct themselves appropriately in "adult" society; that is make rational, reasonable, decisions in accordance with the law, and the ability to enter into binding agreements.
And you believe that calendar age is in any way, shape, or form an automatic guarantee of whether or not an individual has "the cognitive skills to conduct themselves appropriately in "adult" society; that is make rational, reasonable, decisions in accordance with the law, and the ability to enter into binding agreements?"
I don't think so. Discrimination based on age is discrimination just as much as discrimination based on sex, race, religion, nationality, etc. Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right.
Probably the only operating system currently being used commercially that was actually developed from the ground up for commercial use, not in the theoretical world of a university (OK, I'm a mainframe bigot :-) ).
It's not exactly a mainframe OS, but what about OS/400? Wasn't it developed strictly for commercial use?
Nothing to explain. Before Phantom Menace came out, everyone was excited. After they saw it, everyone thought it sucked
Everyone my ass. A lot of people (myself included) thought Phantom Menace was incredible.
Be careful making broad, sweeping statements that you can't possibly back up.
What is it going to take for us to work and get people into office who will actually try to change things, instead of sending yet another stream of RepubliCrats in to keep the system going exactly like it is?
Well, for starters, check out the Libertarian Party. They are the real alternative to the "big two"; who are essentially just opposite sides of the same coin.
What about:
11 posts asking "Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these?"
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__FILE__ and __LINE__ can be used in a #define macro for easy debugging
Good idea! In fact, carrying that idea a little further.. how about an entire book on the C/C++ pre-processor? I know there are a lot of neat things that can be done with the pre-processor, but I've yet to find a GOOD reference to using the damn thing. And I probably own 2/3's of the C/C++ books in print!
Dead tree books, YES! Definitely. E-books have their place, but the bulk of my reading will always be done on good ole paper.
As for topics, how 'bout:
More books on Lisp, Prolog, Scheme, and Eiffel.
More books on AI programming, especially ones focusing on AI programming in C++.
Something similiar to the (now out of print, I believe ) old book "Build Your Own 32 Bit Operating System In C++."
How about a *GOOD* book on ADO programming using C++??? Right now, documentation on doing this is extremely sparse, and what docs there are are confusing and/or poorly written, to the point of being useless.
Considering that there are like three entirely different ways to use ADO in C++, it's confusing as hell piecing together what you need to know, from documentation that assumes you're using VB and only gives a token nod to C++ programmers.
really would love a good book on hacking Mozilla...
YES, YES, YES!!!! Give this man a cookie!!!!
The World absolutely needs more books on Mozilla programming. There are only two or three out now, and one of those is hopelessly out of date.
Books on the technologies underlying Mozilla, XPCom, XUL, etc. would be great. But what would also be great would be something like "hacking mozilla for dummies"... something that provides an overview of the Mozilla code, and enough of a tutorial / introduction, to help a newbie get started contributing to Mozilla.
Now *that* is a book I would pay good money for.
Cracking is never right, nor is breaking the law
That has to take the cake as the most idiotic thing I've EVER read on Slashdot. Believe me, there are plenty of times when breaking the law is not only "right", as in "OK", but is rather the "Right Thing To Do."
I suggest we keep these things in mind as we continue to hunt down terrorists. Its important not to forget the freedoms that make this country worth fighting for.
Good point. However, I fear that far too many people have *already* forgotten those freedoms. If we keep going down the path that we're on now, the day *will* come when our government must be overthrown, and rebuilt with a new, fresh focus on those ideals that have always made America unique.
but I think vc++ handles templates much better than gcc, but thats just my opinion.
That's interesting, because it's widely known that VC++ has TERRIBLE support for templates.