But don't you have to buy all those same things with other companies as well? How is Apple any different? We bought my sister a HP laptop about 3 months ago (her school provides support for their teachers and they won't support anything but Windows). We paid $1400 for the laptop, $200 for the extended warranty (it came with 90 days), it only came with 256 RAM so I upgraded it to 1GB, and we paid $100 for a basic laptop satchel. All in all it was about $1800 total cost.
Apple actually STARTED with virtually ALL of the PC market share (Apple II years), and has been losing market share every year since then. We don't need to rehash the market share vs. installed base and related arguments. Apple does not cater to yuppie techno elite, however they *are* more popular with artist types. But I am a software developer who switched when Apple OSX hit the market because it is the nicest *nix I have ever used. And I'll tell you what - I have had many many fewer issues with the 5 Macs in my home than with the PCS that I had prior. I was constantly tinkering and fixing with my Windows/Linux PCs. I decided - I do that all day - I want to have computers that are nice to use when I come home. And now I do, thanks to my Macs and OSX.
But the claim was that Apple only sells > $3000 computers. That is false.
hard to see a quote from the article if you didn't even read the article...
"Street prices for the nx5000 will begin at $1,140.Add extra memory, a larger hard drive, a DVD writer, a better screen plus 802.11g and the total should be a lot more."
Also worth noting, is that is right in the same ballpark as the Apple iBooks in performance and features and cost...
For the billionth time. Apple didn't use a propietary FORMAT. iTunes by default rips CDs to AAC which is not propietary. In fact, it is part of the MPEG 4 standards. iTunes and iPods also support MP3 and uncompressed music. The iTunes music store exclusively sells music encoded using AAC, again - MPEG 4 STANDARD. Apple's FORMATS are not propietary.
Apple DOES use a propietary Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme for songs purchased at the iTunes Music Store, and ONLY for songs purchased at the iTunes music store. These songs can be used on up to 5 computers and along with that up to 5 iPods (one connected to each computer - not exactly but basically this is the idea). Apple HAD to include the DRM to sell music online, or they would not have been given the license to sell the music. The DRM requirement is NOT from Apple, in fact the Apple didn't want to use DRM in the first place. But it is a necessary evil for legal online sales from the big record labels.
There is nothing propietary about that. AFAIK there is no DRM standard that works across all platforms and players. If there is ever a DRM standard developed I would bet Apple would support it the same way they support MPEG 2, MPEG 3, and MPEG 4 standards.
Tolerance is an important thing in life, my friend. Learn it, or you'll have some serious problems.
Isn't this like driving 75 in a school zone to catch someone and yell at them for speeding...
Tolerance does not include calling people "ignorant fucktards" and your comment probably just reinforced the whole reason why the first poster believes all people who use IRC and ANSI BBSs to be freaks in the first place.
But my G5 *did* come with a buggy whip holder, they threw it in for free because the damn thing was backordered for 8 months...;)
Rule #1: If you are going to set up a website with ANYTHING cool, drop all/. referrels, or at a minimum send a "low bandwidth" version to people coming from/.
Rule #2: make sure Google gets a hold of your site, then just use the Google cache.;)
This was posted way down in the comments, and I'll repeat it here so perhaps someone will see it. You can follow along with a Motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.
No, you make a signifcant overgeneralization. You make it sound like poor people are dying on the street from lack of health care. The US has Universal health care. ANYONE can walk in to a hospital off the street and get heath care if anything serious is wrong with them and the hospital MUST take them and MUST give them the same treatment and it comes out of the American taxpayers wallet.
Not true. Emergency rooms must take you in and treat your SYMPTOMS enough to STABILIZE you then they can throw you out.
But that does nothing to solve the problem.
Emergency room visits are much more expensive than Dr. visits. Why not give people the Dr. visits and keep them out of the emergency rooms? I would hate to be in a car wreck and die because the ER was full of people with the flu...
And what happens to the health care system once the government takes over? In places like Canada it the average time it takes is 2 weeks to see a doctor. How motivated will the nurses and doctors be to take care of you? Ever been to motor vehicles in the US? That is what you can expect if the US government takes over health care. It's been proven time in and time out, taking away choice and handing an industry over to government never works as well as letting the free market decide things.
I am glad that you have good personal experience with all of the other countries medical care. But Since all I have is strictly anecdotal evidence, I can only give that... I have two Canadian friends who work here in the states, and both have health coverage in the US. For most things they drive back to Canada for health care because they like the system there better, and our HMOs suck. I work with 5 people from the UK and one from Germany. All 6 prefer their former health care to our "managed care" options. And I have had GOOD health coverage for my entire career, and it still takes me two weeks to get in to the Dr. In fact, even if I paid CASH I couldn't get in to see my Dr. in two weeks... And forget about dental coverage....
Oh, and I have never had a problem at the DMV either - except it took quite a while to get a slot to take a test once, but nothing major...
The problem is that we stop flying - "voting wirth our dollars". Then the airlines lose money, and go to the government and get a billion dollars bailout... How come when my last company hit the financial dire straits congress didn't bail them out so that I wouldn't have had to lose my job? Oh wait. We weren't an airline...
But the Congress the finalized and passed the DMCA was Republican....
DMCA: Sponsored by Republican, Howard Coble, co-sponsored by Republicans Sonny & Mary Bono, Henry Hyde, Bill McCollum, Bill Paxon, Charles (Chip) Pickering; and Democrats Howard Berman, John Conyers, Barney Frank. (7 Republicans and 3 Democrats).
The sponsor, Republican Howard Coble's #1 supporting industry is TV/Movies/Music, having given him large chunks of money over the years leading up to the DMCA.
But thanks for trying to slam Clinton and blame him for things - we all know "It's Clinton's Fault!"
A lot of people out there still prefer CRTs hands down to LCDs.
Of course with my hands up, I prefer LCDs. If I hold them straight out at my sides I kinda like Plasma displays. With my left one up and my right one down, I am all for OLED....
If I lift one leg, my preference shifts to projectors....
A drive like this would be PERFECT for a problem that I have been trying to find a solution. Only I can't afford them.
On that note, does anyone have any suggestions on how I could setup a laptop to avoid shock?
Talking about a standard laptop. I have all sorts of really cool GPS and topographical and marine charting and analysis software. But the last place I want to use my $2500 laptop is in a 4x4 or Speed boat that will jar the laptop to smitherines....
Since I can't afford the $80 thousand dollars to replace my 80GB drive with one of these no-moving-parts versions, does anyone have any suggestions about a Laptop mount that would absorb large amounts of shock? Something maybe with springs or something, so that the laptop will still kinda bounce around - but not SLAM around...
Isn't the theory that if all other factors are equal, a 2.4Ghz signal can carry more digital data because of it's higher frequency than 900Mhz? You would get more ones and zeros per second.... With trade-offs of course - you never get something for nothing... Like doesn't 2.4Ghz go farther bug get blocked easier by materials like wood or glass?
But of course this is Slashdot, so I can just talk out my arse like this and people will think I am smart and know what I am talking about...:) I really have no clue - I am asking more than telling.
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This one is the worst. Sounds like one of those infomercials... In case of slashdotting, here it is:
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AOL and Systemax combine forces to bring you one of the greatest deals ever on a loaded powerhouse desktop PC and monitor, featuring bumper-to-bumper world-class components, along with a top-quality Lexmark Ink Jet Printer! The spectacular Systemax AOL PC runs on a blazing fast Intel Celeron 2.0GHz CPU that carries with it 256MB of lightning-quick DDR main memory - upgradeable to a mind-boggling 2GB - a 40GB Ultra ATA 100 hard drive and so many extras that we could fill volumes of literature describing them. Here are just a few - 52X CD-ROM drive, SIS Integrated Graphics, Cyber Acoustics CA-2016 2-piece speaker system, Realtek AC '97 6-channel audio, 6 USB 2.0 ports, 56K Max v.92 Send/Receive Fax Hard Modem, 10/100Mbps LAN Support, 104-key Keyboard, Scroll Mouse and mouse pad. Of course, the AOL Systemax PC runs on the award-winning Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition operating system for incomparable performance and stability. And this fantastic computer is housed in a sleek, stylish fully equipped black Micro ATX tower case with 250-Watt power supply.
17" Non-Interlaced Black SVGA Monitor
We've added the perfect monitor to accompany the incredible Systemax AOL PC - this 17-inch non-interlaced black SVGA. Boasting 1280 x 1024 maximum resolution,.27 dot pitch and unlimited display colors, this outstanding monitor delivers brilliant colors, sharp contrasts and exceptional text recognition. Its handsomely appointed, durable construction is the ideal complement to your brand new computer!
Lexmark Black Ink Jet Printer
This amazing deal just gets better and better. The computer and monitor alone are worth hundreds more than what we're asking for the entire package. Add in this legendary Lexmark black ink Jet Printer and you have a value that you just cannot afford to pass up. This fast, high-performance printer offers 35mm photo quality resolution, 4800 x 1200 DPI printing, and speeds of up to 12 pages per minute (PPM) black and 7 PPM color! Durable, reliable and economical - the Lexmark Ink Jet puts the exclamation point on this super Systemax AOL PC special!
The Best Technical Support in the Industry!
Best of all, this Systemax AOL PC comes with best-in-the-business technical support and warranty. Our rock-solid one-year limited warranty includes 24/7 toll-free technical support that averages less than a minute of hold time - one of the best in the industry. Our technicians resolve over 80% of our customer's problems within 10 minutes of the first call. The exclusive easy-to-use Tech-In-A-Box software, included in every PC, provides a fail-safe recovery and restore solution in the event of system failure. This drastically reduces the PC user's potential down time, and greatly minimizes the possibility of catastrophic system failure. With a Systemax PC, you'll get years and years of experience, amazing service, excellent craftsmanship and a PC that is built to the highest industry standards in our ISO 9001 certified facility.
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I thought you were going to explain? Or did I miss something?
But don't you have to buy all those same things with other companies as well? How is Apple any different? We bought my sister a HP laptop about 3 months ago (her school provides support for their teachers and they won't support anything but Windows). We paid $1400 for the laptop, $200 for the extended warranty (it came with 90 days), it only came with 256 RAM so I upgraded it to 1GB, and we paid $100 for a basic laptop satchel. All in all it was about $1800 total cost.
Apple actually STARTED with virtually ALL of the PC market share (Apple II years), and has been losing market share every year since then. We don't need to rehash the market share vs. installed base and related arguments. Apple does not cater to yuppie techno elite, however they *are* more popular with artist types. But I am a software developer who switched when Apple OSX hit the market because it is the nicest *nix I have ever used. And I'll tell you what - I have had many many fewer issues with the 5 Macs in my home than with the PCS that I had prior. I was constantly tinkering and fixing with my Windows/Linux PCs. I decided - I do that all day - I want to have computers that are nice to use when I come home. And now I do, thanks to my Macs and OSX.
But the claim was that Apple only sells > $3000 computers. That is false.
Except that Apple sells all 5 of it's laptop models for less than $3000. They run from $1099 to $2799 base prices.
I know, don't feed the trolls....
where's the big money savings by going to linux?
After you turn it on.
It'll hibernate. Just take out the battery. Presto - hibernation.
What do you mean you want your *data* too?
I didn't see any price quote from the article
hard to see a quote from the article if you didn't even read the article...
"Street prices for the nx5000 will begin at $1,140.Add extra memory, a larger hard drive, a DVD writer, a better screen plus 802.11g and the total should be a lot more."
Also worth noting, is that is right in the same ballpark as the Apple iBooks in performance and features and cost...
For the billionth time. Apple didn't use a propietary FORMAT. iTunes by default rips CDs to AAC which is not propietary. In fact, it is part of the MPEG 4 standards. iTunes and iPods also support MP3 and uncompressed music. The iTunes music store exclusively sells music encoded using AAC, again - MPEG 4 STANDARD. Apple's FORMATS are not propietary.
Apple DOES use a propietary Digital Rights Management (DRM) scheme for songs purchased at the iTunes Music Store , and ONLY for songs purchased at the iTunes music store. These songs can be used on up to 5 computers and along with that up to 5 iPods (one connected to each computer - not exactly but basically this is the idea). Apple HAD to include the DRM to sell music online, or they would not have been given the license to sell the music. The DRM requirement is NOT from Apple, in fact the Apple didn't want to use DRM in the first place. But it is a necessary evil for legal online sales from the big record labels.
There is nothing propietary about that. AFAIK there is no DRM standard that works across all platforms and players. If there is ever a DRM standard developed I would bet Apple would support it the same way they support MPEG 2, MPEG 3, and MPEG 4 standards.
Tolerance is an important thing in life, my friend. Learn it, or you'll have some serious problems.
;)
Isn't this like driving 75 in a school zone to catch someone and yell at them for speeding...
Tolerance does not include calling people "ignorant fucktards" and your comment probably just reinforced the whole reason why the first poster believes all people who use IRC and ANSI BBSs to be freaks in the first place.
But my G5 *did* come with a buggy whip holder, they threw it in for free because the damn thing was backordered for 8 months...
Rule #1: If you are going to set up a website with ANYTHING cool, drop all /. referrels, or at a minimum send a "low bandwidth" version to people coming from /.
;)
Rule #2: make sure Google gets a hold of your site, then just use the Google cache.
This was posted way down in the comments, and I'll repeat it here so perhaps someone will see it. You can follow along with a Motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.
Damn, you beat me to it. It's a cool as heck site.. (The website, not the nuclear site...)
No, you make a signifcant overgeneralization. You make it sound like poor people are dying on the street from lack of health care. The US has Universal health care. ANYONE can walk in to a hospital off the street and get heath care if anything serious is wrong with them and the hospital MUST take them and MUST give them the same treatment and it comes out of the American taxpayers wallet.
Not true. Emergency rooms must take you in and treat your SYMPTOMS enough to STABILIZE you then they can throw you out.
But that does nothing to solve the problem.
Emergency room visits are much more expensive than Dr. visits. Why not give people the Dr. visits and keep them out of the emergency rooms? I would hate to be in a car wreck and die because the ER was full of people with the flu...
And what happens to the health care system once the government takes over? In places like Canada it the average time it takes is 2 weeks to see a doctor. How motivated will the nurses and doctors be to take care of you? Ever been to motor vehicles in the US? That is what you can expect if the US government takes over health care. It's been proven time in and time out, taking away choice and handing an industry over to government never works as well as letting the free market decide things.
I am glad that you have good personal experience with all of the other countries medical care. But Since all I have is strictly anecdotal evidence, I can only give that... I have two Canadian friends who work here in the states, and both have health coverage in the US. For most things they drive back to Canada for health care because they like the system there better, and our HMOs suck. I work with 5 people from the UK and one from Germany. All 6 prefer their former health care to our "managed care" options. And I have had GOOD health coverage for my entire career, and it still takes me two weeks to get in to the Dr. In fact, even if I paid CASH I couldn't get in to see my Dr. in two weeks... And forget about dental coverage....
Oh, and I have never had a problem at the DMV either - except it took quite a while to get a slot to take a test once, but nothing major...
Has anyone seen K-19 with Harrison Ford?
No. No one has.
I get similar results using full Mozilla 1.7.2
Damn, I burned all my mod points this morning...
+1 something I would do...
The problem is that we stop flying - "voting wirth our dollars". Then the airlines lose money, and go to the government and get a billion dollars bailout... How come when my last company hit the financial dire straits congress didn't bail them out so that I wouldn't have had to lose my job? Oh wait. We weren't an airline...
Windows only. :(
But the Congress the finalized and passed the DMCA was Republican....
DMCA: Sponsored by Republican, Howard Coble, co-sponsored by Republicans Sonny & Mary Bono, Henry Hyde, Bill McCollum, Bill Paxon, Charles (Chip) Pickering; and Democrats Howard Berman, John Conyers, Barney Frank. (7 Republicans and 3 Democrats).
The sponsor, Republican Howard Coble's #1 supporting industry is TV/Movies/Music, having given him large chunks of money over the years leading up to the DMCA.
But thanks for trying to slam Clinton and blame him for things - we all know "It's Clinton's Fault!"
but driver issues alone would prevent doing the same with modern PCs.
These Guys seem to do a pretty good job with it...
But my laptop still has to run. I would need to disable the internal drive and run off Firewire I would imagine...
But I would want the whole laptop protected as well, I guess...
A lot of people out there still prefer CRTs hands down to LCDs.
Of course with my hands up, I prefer LCDs. If I hold them straight out at my sides I kinda like Plasma displays. With my left one up and my right one down, I am all for OLED....
If I lift one leg, my preference shifts to projectors....
Hey, here is a related question. Sort-of.
A drive like this would be PERFECT for a problem that I have been trying to find a solution. Only I can't afford them.
On that note, does anyone have any suggestions on how I could setup a laptop to avoid shock?
Talking about a standard laptop. I have all sorts of really cool GPS and topographical and marine charting and analysis software. But the last place I want to use my $2500 laptop is in a 4x4 or Speed boat that will jar the laptop to smitherines....
Since I can't afford the $80 thousand dollars to replace my 80GB drive with one of these no-moving-parts versions, does anyone have any suggestions about a Laptop mount that would absorb large amounts of shock? Something maybe with springs or something, so that the laptop will still kinda bounce around - but not SLAM around...
Isn't the theory that if all other factors are equal, a 2.4Ghz signal can carry more digital data because of it's higher frequency than 900Mhz? You would get more ones and zeros per second.... With trade-offs of course - you never get something for nothing... Like doesn't 2.4Ghz go farther bug get blocked easier by materials like wood or glass?
:) I really have no clue - I am asking more than telling.
But of course this is Slashdot, so I can just talk out my arse like this and people will think I am smart and know what I am talking about...
Introducing the Systemax AOL Special!
AOL and Systemax combine forces to bring you one of the greatest deals ever on a loaded powerhouse desktop PC and monitor, featuring bumper-to-bumper world-class components, along with a top-quality Lexmark Ink Jet Printer! The spectacular Systemax AOL PC runs on a blazing fast Intel Celeron 2.0GHz CPU that carries with it 256MB of lightning-quick DDR main memory - upgradeable to a mind-boggling 2GB - a 40GB Ultra ATA 100 hard drive and so many extras that we could fill volumes of literature describing them. Here are just a few - 52X CD-ROM drive, SIS Integrated Graphics, Cyber Acoustics CA-2016 2-piece speaker system, Realtek AC '97 6-channel audio, 6 USB 2.0 ports, 56K Max v.92 Send/Receive Fax Hard Modem, 10/100Mbps LAN Support, 104-key Keyboard, Scroll Mouse and mouse pad. Of course, the AOL Systemax PC runs on the award-winning Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition operating system for incomparable performance and stability. And this fantastic computer is housed in a sleek, stylish fully equipped black Micro ATX tower case with 250-Watt power supply.
17" Non-Interlaced Black SVGA Monitor .27 dot pitch and unlimited display colors, this outstanding monitor delivers brilliant colors, sharp contrasts and exceptional text recognition. Its handsomely appointed, durable construction is the ideal complement to your brand new computer!
We've added the perfect monitor to accompany the incredible Systemax AOL PC - this 17-inch non-interlaced black SVGA. Boasting 1280 x 1024 maximum resolution,
Lexmark Black Ink Jet Printer
This amazing deal just gets better and better. The computer and monitor alone are worth hundreds more than what we're asking for the entire package. Add in this legendary Lexmark black ink Jet Printer and you have a value that you just cannot afford to pass up. This fast, high-performance printer offers 35mm photo quality resolution, 4800 x 1200 DPI printing, and speeds of up to 12 pages per minute (PPM) black and 7 PPM color! Durable, reliable and economical - the Lexmark Ink Jet puts the exclamation point on this super Systemax AOL PC special!
The Best Technical Support in the Industry!
Best of all, this Systemax AOL PC comes with best-in-the-business technical support and warranty. Our rock-solid one-year limited warranty includes 24/7 toll-free technical support that averages less than a minute of hold time - one of the best in the industry. Our technicians resolve over 80% of our customer's problems within 10 minutes of the first call. The exclusive easy-to-use Tech-In-A-Box software, included in every PC, provides a fail-safe recovery and restore solution in the event of system failure. This drastically reduces the PC user's potential down time, and greatly minimizes the possibility of catastrophic system failure. With a Systemax PC, you'll get years and years of experience, amazing service, excellent craftsmanship and a PC that is built to the highest industry standards in our ISO 9001 certified facility.
Hitler mandated black boxes in cars.