I am, unfortunately, too lazy to look for links, but I recall a discussion for a Linux native video player with a Sorenson license. Would this not imply that either Apple's exclusive license expired and they couldn't renew the exclusive part, or they decided to let the Sorenson folks license it despite the agreement?
I'm sure what you actually mean is you can't do a distribution upgrade (7.2->7.3,7.3->8.0,...). You can upgrade packages (X 3.3 -> 4.0) no problem, and it does all your dependency checking for you.
Was that a clever illustration of how time travel could be used? Would you have gone back to before you typed it or to just before hitting the submit button?
The coolest compiler error I ever saw was when I accidently had the class constructor defined as a private member, so the compiler told me the "constructor is private and has no friends."
No-one who has used dselect will ever go back to RPM
I think dselect is the worst package selection tool I've seen. AFAIK, the only time you have to use it is when installing Debian. Of course, after spending a couple of days trying to figure out dselect to install what I wanted, I just went back to RedHat. Using tasksel during installation now is quite a blessed thing. I can get Debian installed, then I can use apt-get and even dpkg to get rid of all the extra crap I didn't want in the first place. But to be honset, I'd still rahter install RedHat, not install the extra stuff, and use up2date to stay current and install new packages without tracking down dependencies. That way I can still use RedHat's nice ncurses config dialogs and service/chkconfig for init script maintenance. Sure apt-get is sweet for a live distro upgrade, but I have apt-get for rpm too. So I don't ever have to deal with the sphincter known as dselect.
Re:Luke, use the source...
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Debian people usually compare apt-get to rpm, which others have already pointed out is stupid. Compare dpkg to rpm and apt-get to up2date. apt-get has package removal (up2date doesn't do removal, you have to use plain rpm -e for that). You can do a live distro upgrade with apt-get, you can't with up2date. apt-get and up2date are both efficient systems to determine dependencies for you. dpkg and rpm are both efficient ways of dealing with at most a handful of specific packages (you have to know which ones when you start). I'm not as familiar with the dpkg/.deb format as I am with rpm/.rpm, but I haven't found too many differences at that level. The differences I see are at the higher layer of apt-get/up2date, where apt-get is still superior. But it has nothing to do with the rpm format itself.
No, Obi Wan tells Luke he thought he could train Anakin as well as Yoda, but he was wrong.
What's the big deal?
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I think the CEO's email makes their concern quite clear. They acknowledge that the current license can't prevent anyone from making a debian package. I think he's presented quite a reasonable argument for third parties re-packaging their code. What it doesn't address is why they don't make debian packages themselves. (please forgive me if they do, I don't use any flavor of Wine, and the CEO's email seemes to imply they don't, and have canceled plans to do so.)
You don't remember correctly. The Civil War was started because one of the separating states believed a US military fort was theirs, and the US disagreed. After the War was over, the US government retroactively disagreed with the separation of the states, and made them amend their state Constitutions before considering them part of eh Republic again.
I worked for Optical Solutions, Inc. for two years. FTTH is awesome, but the RBOCs aren't quick to try and roll it out. They have too much copper in place. The providers that are making the investment to lay fiber are the rural and independent telcos. I'm not really allowed to say too much about Optical Solutions, so maybe one of the people still there, who I know read/., will post some more information. Dan, you there?
I presume it's referring to the small memory cards made by Secure Digital that so many other devices support. I believe this is the same card that Palm now uses.
I just wish my email programs allowed me to filter off of strings in the full header
Mozilla Messenger (and I assume Netscape Messenger) allows you to specify a custom header field to filter on. So you can filter on anything in the headers.:D
Do you have a flag? No flag no planet! Those are the rules I've just made up. And I'm backing them up with this gun lent to me by the National Rifle Association.
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no, we do things five assed.
I am, unfortunately, too lazy to look for links, but I recall a discussion for a Linux native video player with a Sorenson license. Would this not imply that either Apple's exclusive license expired and they couldn't renew the exclusive part, or they decided to let the Sorenson folks license it despite the agreement?
I'm sure what you actually mean is you can't do a distribution upgrade (7.2->7.3,7.3->8.0,...). You can upgrade packages (X 3.3 -> 4.0) no problem, and it does all your dependency checking for you.
Does he go back to back in orbit
Was that a clever illustration of how time travel could be used? Would you have gone back to before you typed it or to just before hitting the submit button?
The coolest compiler error I ever saw was when I accidently had the class constructor defined as a private member, so the compiler told me the "constructor is private and has no friends."
It's a good thing I didn't say anything silly, like mention using tasksel to do the install.
No-one who has used dselect will ever go back to RPM
I think dselect is the worst package selection tool I've seen. AFAIK, the only time you have to use it is when installing Debian. Of course, after spending a couple of days trying to figure out dselect to install what I wanted, I just went back to RedHat. Using tasksel during installation now is quite a blessed thing. I can get Debian installed, then I can use apt-get and even dpkg to get rid of all the extra crap I didn't want in the first place. But to be honset, I'd still rahter install RedHat, not install the extra stuff, and use up2date to stay current and install new packages without tracking down dependencies. That way I can still use RedHat's nice ncurses config dialogs and service/chkconfig for init script maintenance. Sure apt-get is sweet for a live distro upgrade, but I have apt-get for rpm too. So I don't ever have to deal with the sphincter known as dselect.
Debian people usually compare apt-get to rpm, which others have already pointed out is stupid. Compare dpkg to rpm and apt-get to up2date. apt-get has package removal (up2date doesn't do removal, you have to use plain rpm -e for that). You can do a live distro upgrade with apt-get, you can't with up2date. apt-get and up2date are both efficient systems to determine dependencies for you. dpkg and rpm are both efficient ways of dealing with at most a handful of specific packages (you have to know which ones when you start). I'm not as familiar with the dpkg/.deb format as I am with rpm/.rpm, but I haven't found too many differences at that level. The differences I see are at the higher layer of apt-get/up2date, where apt-get is still superior. But it has nothing to do with the rpm format itself.
Red Hat has advertised LSB compliance for a few releases. Personally, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Do you have anecdotes to the contrary?
No, Obi Wan tells Luke he thought he could train Anakin as well as Yoda, but he was wrong.
I think the CEO's email makes their concern quite clear. They acknowledge that the current license can't prevent anyone from making a debian package. I think he's presented quite a reasonable argument for third parties re-packaging their code. What it doesn't address is why they don't make debian packages themselves. (please forgive me if they do, I don't use any flavor of Wine, and the CEO's email seemes to imply they don't, and have canceled plans to do so.)
You don't remember correctly. The Civil War was started because one of the separating states believed a US military fort was theirs, and the US disagreed. After the War was over, the US government retroactively disagreed with the separation of the states, and made them amend their state Constitutions before considering them part of eh Republic again.
doesn't get hold of my Identiteez (sp?) I'm fine with it. Maybe they should put the biometrics on my American Express card instead.
I worked for Optical Solutions, Inc. for two years. FTTH is awesome, but the RBOCs aren't quick to try and roll it out. They have too much copper in place. The providers that are making the investment to lay fiber are the rural and independent telcos. I'm not really allowed to say too much about Optical Solutions, so maybe one of the people still there, who I know read /., will post some more information. Dan, you there?
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"You sir, are a baboon."
"I cannot get zeese fucking trees .... DAMN! I will kill everyone in ze world."
I presume it's referring to the small memory cards made by Secure Digital that so many other devices support. I believe this is the same card that Palm now uses.
But He won't be able to fetchmail it at the end of the day to get it all in his home inbox
I just wish my email programs allowed me to filter off of strings in the full header
:D
Mozilla Messenger (and I assume Netscape Messenger) allows you to specify a custom header field to filter on. So you can filter on anything in the headers.
Knock on Woody, I say.
You mean rub on woody.
Blame Canada ...
correct for 10 points. ;P
Do you have a flag? No flag no planet! Those are the rules I've just made up. And I'm backing them up with this gun lent to me by the National Rifle Association.
I've been Ippy Dippied to death.
Image a Beowulf caravan of these things!