Portable.NET (http://dotgnu.org) has been avaliable for a long time via DarwinPorts and a separate disk image for a long time now as well. I am surprised that slashdotters don't seem to realize this!
I didn't buy the last one for the same reason. This time, I'll get Tiger. If you don't like buying upgrades constantly, skip a version here and there. Its perfectly acceptable to do so. I think Apple is hoping people will buy new computers every year or so to get the latest OS and hardware as well. Many of us try to support the previous version of MacOS X by compiling our software for it so people like you and I can lag a version behind occassionally.
Wow. this is the largest number of straw men I've ever seen set up and knocked down. Instead of picking on silly 13 year old kid's confused comments, how about you try arguing with big people.
Regardless of whether you are 100% certain it's perfect or not, which looks more inviting to the average user:
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My Program 0.1.00.37 Beta
My Program 1.0 Beta 1
The reason software is broken, things aren't working right from the start, and you have to edit config files constantly is directly related to the version ugly version numbers. Things aren't at 1.0 for a reason! Most software on your favorite user-friendly linux distribution is still experimental and is not meant for mass consumption by those who are not willing to work with the software's current inadaquacies and to file bug reports. Distributions that contain only officially stable, well tested software have limited GUIs and old version of programs with less features. And the reason GNU/Linux OSs pop you into a command-line everytime something goes wrong is because it is built in UNIXs image. The people who started hacking together complete linux operating systems were not Windows users, they were not microsoft or apple developers, they were programmers and engineers who came from a unix world. A CLI shell for such a person is as familiar and native as your windows GUI environment.
I think what this reveals is that people migrating from Windows tend to compare features from windows with their equivalents in linux. But in the process, they are not looking to see what features linux provides that they otherwise would never have seen in windows. In otherwords, the strengths and weaknesses of any GNU/Linux OS are very different from Windows. So, linux is not failing to be user friendly, its failing to be Windows user friendly. And if your goal is to have linux distros be user friendly to people trained on windows, they have by in large failed. One reason why they are failing, is that a lot of distributors and programmers have no incentive to make t hings easer for migrating users.
I don't think you can separate people and religion in the same way you can physically separate a person and a gun. A gun is a tool for killing while religion can be either a driving force, or an excuse for war.
"favoring the word of man over the word of God seems to be the standard MO for most religious people today"
I agree. The word of man is all a religous person has. Who shows a person religion? Who interprets religous teachings for children? Who writes holy books? People do. So, it is far too natural for a person to follow the word of man (particularly religous and political leaders) over the word of his god.
The half-life executable and client and server dlls puts it up at several megabytes. perhaps over 10 megabytes, but I don't have a copy of it around to check, atm. This is 100kilobytes including generated music and textures. It requires very skilled coders to save byte after byte in every inch of the code. These guys have been making great 64k demos for a long time. Just a couple weeks ago I was thinking, "gee, why doesn't someone stick some mouse control, a gun, and collision detection in one and let me shoot stuff?" And my wish has been granted.
The thing is, they very much are up to Stallman to decide. Ethics are not a universally established thing. there is no central authority on ethics, and Stallman may judge something as ethical or unethical as he pleases. And when some one asks if if he thinks free software is ethical, he is very much entitled to say, "If your program is free software, it is basically ethical."
According to you, one should give up one's freedom's whenever it may benefit one in the short term. This is the silliest argument for non-free software yet.
Does your state have property tax? It is possible that your property tax is far higher than it is in California. And in California, property taxes do not increase when the value of your property increases. This creates a situation where the state isn't getting nearly as much money from property taxes as other states. And what about car registration? In California, registration is much lower than in other states. So watch out for all of those taxes you are taking for granted!
Exactly what I was thinking. They keep their content, I'll make my own and distribute it with the bf off. Its just like proprietary software. It will fail because independant broadcasters will render it obsolete, or, if that is illegal, oh well. I guess I won't be watching television or listening to recorded music from large record labels. It's their loss.
The crashing is because it can't find a key. Read some of the other posts explaining how to fix that. As for uninstalling it, download the source code, and in the Terminal, go to that directory. Then type: make uninstall
This appears to be incorrect. PlayFair requires that the user have the DRM rights to play the song in the first place. So it is not circumventing copyright protection. It seems falls under another part of the DMCA that is not as harsh.
There is likely no operating system on it. Once upon a time, software did not drive hardware. Hardware is perfectly capable of tasks like this all alone. Now, if there is an authentication system and such, there may be a small embedded bit of code on a chip that runs through a tiny thing that resembles the processor that you are familiar with. This code would monitor the state of the system and would trigger various hardware events when necessary, and would store network data. an operating system in the modern sense might be almost a waste.
Yes. It is. The fact that someone marked such a stupid question insightful is idiotic. Questions rarely provide insight and obvious questions like that never do. Anyway, enough ranting. To answer your question, I would really like one of these because I have a wireless laptop that I only plug in when i need it at my desk. Like, to plug in my ipod or my current firewire external drive. I plug it into an ethernet network in this case. But if I am on a my couch wireless, I cannot access that drive. "But wireless has such low bandwidth!", you say. I would not want to do large backups wirelessly, but lets say I want to stream a video file over it. Or perhaps have my iTunes playlist and songs on it. Its perfect for these uses. Not to mention as a central sharing point. Alas, this device is useful.
"and that's what Linux people want, right?" Contrary to what those companies would like you to believe, many of the "Linux people" just want an operating system that they can fiddle with and can modify freely. It isn't about acceptance, or profit, or popularity contests, or usability. If keeping software like this free in every instance isn't your priority, then go use one of the wonderful BSD licensed operating systems and stop telling everyone else what the purpose of the linux kernel is. Linux isn't about sacrificing the freedom Linus put his kernel under (along with every person who ever contributed to it) for some semblance of acceptance and self-esteem.
Yes, I agree. I was about to post that myself. I would also suggest karamovie or karabid(eo). But anywho, it doesn't much matter since the english->japanese->english conversion has turned karaoke into a unique english word in its own right. There isn't any big deal if the meaning from 2 translations back is lost.
DotGNU has been running on MacOS X for roughly two years. " Currently supported CPUs: x86, ppc, arm, parisc, s390, ia64, alpha, mips, sparc. Supported operating systems: GNU/Linux (on PCs, Sparc, iPAQ, Sharp Zaurus, PlayStation 2, Xbox,...), *BSD, Cygwin/Mingw32, Mac OS X, Solaris, AIX"
So, both projects support a lot of platforms and even embedded devices (although I don't know if mono runs on anything embedded yet). I didn't know mono and their winelib ran on MacOS completely. I am glad to hear winelib was finally made relatively platform independant.
As other posters have said, its a matter of privacy. A more specific reason I would prefer that a judge decide whether or someone's bank account is avaliable to the FBI for investigation is this: If an organization has absolute power to do this without permission from a separate organization, someone could take advantage of it. For instance, if bin laden wanted to look into all of the major corporations bank accounts to find out which institution would be best to attack, he could exploit the FBI's power and send out forged letters the companies. Isn't this a crazy way to look at it? But this is the sort of thing that the idea of privacy is made to deal with.
Its not that people don't want the FBI being able to do it jobs, its just that if you give them too much free power, there is a better possibility that it will somehow get used wrong. I hope that helps.
I have run it just fine in wine and winex. Each of them has a separate set of minor bugs, but it functions well with both. You must have opengl compiled in and have your graphics card set up right in linux first or you will be running in a horrible software mode with a lowish framerate.
Well, it already exists. There is a network monopoly server called monopd and there are gtk and qt based clients for it. The game is totally customizable and you can make all sorts of monopoly-like games with it. I don't think you can print out your custom made boards, but you can play them right there on the screen. You can play over the net, so go have fun:)
I have actually set up a wiki for a nontechnical person before. I came into it with the same thoughts that you have. The person was fairly intelligent and grapsped the overall content of a wiki quickly. However, the things you take for granted such as understanding tags and text formatting, were far more complicated than was expected. People want a nice little bold button to bold their text, they want to see the formatting effect their text right away, and any nontechnical person expecting to be able to put multiple columns (a la tables), resizing pictures, uploading pictures, alignment, etc, will be very dissappointed in the unexpected complexities and thinking involved. It is akin to telling a person to write a word processing document in html. It isn't impossible for them to learn fairly quickly but it is unexpectedly unnatural and combersome to the nontechnical type. They truly have come to expect things to "just work" and to have all the features of their favorite office suite with out any extra hassle. I agree that your mother could probably maintain a small wiki just fine after one session of working with her. The trouble is that people tend to want their pages to be pretty, they want to add graphics, etc. and when they ask you where the insert graphic button is or why ctrl-b isn't bolding the text, they feel bad when you show them that it is very different and requires more steps. I finally came to understand this and I write custom blogging systems for my loved ones where I have total control over the simplicity and feature set. Your milage may vary:)
What does QTs license change years ago have to do with making a mono and dotgnu creating webservice platforms and C# portability?
I understand your concerns about mono helping microsoft, one can say the same thing about php and perl helping the MS server platform, gcc supporting MS development, and frozen bubble making windows a better gaming platform. This argument is old and has little effect in the real world.
You seem to no nothing about DotGNU. The project's goal is to create a free software web platform in much the same way the GNU project set out to create a free unix-like platform. One could argue that GNU/Linux has helped SCO, ATT, or HP to improve their commercial unix, but somehow I think they would all disagree.
And to revisit your issues with mono, claiming that C# and MSIL support for linux is helping microsoft more than it is helping anyone else is similar to saying that java support on linux is only good for Sun. I just don't see the evidence or reasoning.
Your tie in with QT makes no sense. I think you are missing something important. QT and GTK+ are completely unrelated to the webservice and binary portability arenas where mono and dotgnu are. Incidentally, there are libraries to use QT and GTK+ from C#.
Wow. So it costed under $100 for the hardware? Windows 2000 Pro costed about 300 bucks. I suppose its down closer to 200 now, but still, please let me know how you built your box for such an amazing price. Then again, maybe you were only counting the OS cost in the price of VPC and not with the Shuttle computer. Oh well, I understand. But I wouldn't say VPC costs almost as much as a Wintel machine unless you are getting a pentium 2 from the thrift store with win98 preinstalled. I do agree VPC costs plenty of money, especially when you add in the OS.
Here's to hoping bochs gets fast enough to run linux with Wine on top for those rare needed windows apps.
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Portable.NET (http://dotgnu.org) has been avaliable for a long time via DarwinPorts and a separate disk image for a long time now as well. I am surprised that slashdotters don't seem to realize this!
It happens that Lucas named the THX certification program after the name of this movie. It is no coincidence!
I didn't buy the last one for the same reason. This time, I'll get Tiger. If you don't like buying upgrades constantly, skip a version here and there. Its perfectly acceptable to do so. I think Apple is hoping people will buy new computers every year or so to get the latest OS and hardware as well. Many of us try to support the previous version of MacOS X by compiling our software for it so people like you and I can lag a version behind occassionally.
Wow. this is the largest number of straw men I've ever seen set up and knocked down. Instead of picking on silly 13 year old kid's confused comments, how about you try arguing with big people.
Regardless of whether you are 100% certain it's perfect or not, which looks more inviting to the average user:
,br> My Program 0.1.00.37 Beta
My Program 1.0 Beta 1
The reason software is broken, things aren't working right from the start, and you have to edit config files constantly is directly related to the version ugly version numbers. Things aren't at 1.0 for a reason! Most software on your favorite user-friendly linux distribution is still experimental and is not meant for mass consumption by those who are not willing to work with the software's current inadaquacies and to file bug reports. Distributions that contain only officially stable, well tested software have limited GUIs and old version of programs with less features. And the reason GNU/Linux OSs pop you into a command-line everytime something goes wrong is because it is built in UNIXs image. The people who started hacking together complete linux operating systems were not Windows users, they were not microsoft or apple developers, they were programmers and engineers who came from a unix world. A CLI shell for such a person is as familiar and native as your windows GUI environment.
I think what this reveals is that people migrating from Windows tend to compare features from windows with their equivalents in linux. But in the process, they are not looking to see what features linux provides that they otherwise would never have seen in windows. In otherwords, the strengths and weaknesses of any GNU/Linux OS are very different from Windows. So, linux is not failing to be user friendly, its failing to be Windows user friendly. And if your goal is to have linux distros be user friendly to people trained on windows, they have by in large failed. One reason why they are failing, is that a lot of distributors and programmers have no incentive to make t hings easer for migrating users.
I don't think you can separate people and religion in the same way you can physically separate a person and a gun. A gun is a tool for killing while religion can be either a driving force, or an excuse for war.
"favoring the word of man over the word of God seems to be the standard MO for most religious people today"
I agree. The word of man is all a religous person has. Who shows a person religion? Who interprets religous teachings for children? Who writes holy books? People do. So, it is far too natural for a person to follow the word of man (particularly religous and political leaders) over the word of his god.
The half-life executable and client and server dlls puts it up at several megabytes. perhaps over 10 megabytes, but I don't have a copy of it around to check, atm. This is 100kilobytes including generated music and textures. It requires very skilled coders to save byte after byte in every inch of the code. These guys have been making great 64k demos for a long time. Just a couple weeks ago I was thinking, "gee, why doesn't someone stick some mouse control, a gun, and collision detection in one and let me shoot stuff?" And my wish has been granted.
The thing is, they very much are up to Stallman to decide. Ethics are not a universally established thing. there is no central authority on ethics, and Stallman may judge something as ethical or unethical as he pleases. And when some one asks if if he thinks free software is ethical, he is very much entitled to say, "If your program is free software, it is basically ethical."
According to you, one should give up one's freedom's whenever it may benefit one in the short term. This is the silliest argument for non-free software yet.
Does your state have property tax? It is possible that your property tax is far higher than it is in California. And in California, property taxes do not increase when the value of your property increases. This creates a situation where the state isn't getting nearly as much money from property taxes as other states. And what about car registration? In California, registration is much lower than in other states. So watch out for all of those taxes you are taking for granted!
Exactly what I was thinking. They keep their content, I'll make my own and distribute it with the bf off. Its just like proprietary software. It will fail because independant broadcasters will render it obsolete, or, if that is illegal, oh well. I guess I won't be watching television or listening to recorded music from large record labels. It's their loss.
The crashing is because it can't find a key. Read some of the other posts explaining how to fix that. As for uninstalling it, download the source code, and in the Terminal, go to that directory. Then type: make uninstall
This appears to be incorrect. PlayFair requires that the user have the DRM rights to play the song in the first place. So it is not circumventing copyright protection. It seems falls under another part of the DMCA that is not as harsh.
There is likely no operating system on it. Once upon a time, software did not drive hardware. Hardware is perfectly capable of tasks like this all alone. Now, if there is an authentication system and such, there may be a small embedded bit of code on a chip that runs through a tiny thing that resembles the processor that you are familiar with. This code would monitor the state of the system and would trigger various hardware events when necessary, and would store network data. an operating system in the modern sense might be almost a waste.
Yes. It is. The fact that someone marked such a stupid question insightful is idiotic. Questions rarely provide insight and obvious questions like that never do. Anyway, enough ranting. To answer your question, I would really like one of these because I have a wireless laptop that I only plug in when i need it at my desk. Like, to plug in my ipod or my current firewire external drive. I plug it into an ethernet network in this case. But if I am on a my couch wireless, I cannot access that drive. "But wireless has such low bandwidth!", you say. I would not want to do large backups wirelessly, but lets say I want to stream a video file over it. Or perhaps have my iTunes playlist and songs on it. Its perfect for these uses. Not to mention as a central sharing point. Alas, this device is useful.
"and that's what Linux people want, right?" Contrary to what those companies would like you to believe, many of the "Linux people" just want an operating system that they can fiddle with and can modify freely. It isn't about acceptance, or profit, or popularity contests, or usability. If keeping software like this free in every instance isn't your priority, then go use one of the wonderful BSD licensed operating systems and stop telling everyone else what the purpose of the linux kernel is. Linux isn't about sacrificing the freedom Linus put his kernel under (along with every person who ever contributed to it) for some semblance of acceptance and self-esteem.
Yes, I agree. I was about to post that myself. I would also suggest karamovie or karabid(eo). But anywho, it doesn't much matter since the english->japanese->english conversion has turned karaoke into a unique english word in its own right. There isn't any big deal if the meaning from 2 translations back is lost.
Sounds like you had better put on your tin hat and wear a few hundred coats of sun block then.
DotGNU has been running on MacOS X for roughly two years.
" Currently supported CPUs: x86, ppc, arm, parisc, s390, ia64, alpha, mips, sparc. Supported operating systems: GNU/Linux (on PCs, Sparc, iPAQ, Sharp Zaurus, PlayStation 2, Xbox,...), *BSD, Cygwin/Mingw32, Mac OS X, Solaris, AIX"
So, both projects support a lot of platforms and even embedded devices (although I don't know if mono runs on anything embedded yet). I didn't know mono and their winelib ran on MacOS completely. I am glad to hear winelib was finally made relatively platform independant.
As other posters have said, its a matter of privacy. A more specific reason I would prefer that a judge decide whether or someone's bank account is avaliable to the FBI for investigation is this:
If an organization has absolute power to do this without permission from a separate organization, someone could take advantage of it. For instance, if bin laden wanted to look into all of the major corporations bank accounts to find out which institution would be best to attack, he could exploit the FBI's power and send out forged letters the companies. Isn't this a crazy way to look at it? But this is the sort of thing that the idea of privacy is made to deal with.
Its not that people don't want the FBI being able to do it jobs, its just that if you give them too much free power, there is a better possibility that it will somehow get used wrong. I hope that helps.
I have run it just fine in wine and winex. Each of them has a separate set of minor bugs, but it functions well with both. You must have opengl compiled in and have your graphics card set up right in linux first or you will be running in a horrible software mode with a lowish framerate.
Well, it already exists. There is a network monopoly server called monopd and there are gtk and qt based clients for it. The game is totally customizable and you can make all sorts of monopoly-like games with it. I don't think you can print out your custom made boards, but you can play them right there on the screen. You can play over the net, so go have fun :)
I have actually set up a wiki for a nontechnical person before. I came into it with the same thoughts that you have. The person was fairly intelligent and grapsped the overall content of a wiki quickly. However, the things you take for granted such as understanding tags and text formatting, were far more complicated than was expected. :)
People want a nice little bold button to bold their text, they want to see the formatting effect their text right away, and any nontechnical person expecting to be able to put multiple columns (a la tables), resizing pictures, uploading pictures, alignment, etc, will be very dissappointed in the unexpected complexities and thinking involved. It is akin to telling a person to write a word processing document in html. It isn't impossible for them to learn fairly quickly but it is unexpectedly unnatural and combersome to the nontechnical type. They truly have come to expect things to "just work" and to have all the features of their favorite office suite with out any extra hassle.
I agree that your mother could probably maintain a small wiki just fine after one session of working with her. The trouble is that people tend to want their pages to be pretty, they want to add graphics, etc. and when they ask you where the insert graphic button is or why ctrl-b isn't bolding the text, they feel bad when you show them that it is very different and requires more steps.
I finally came to understand this and I write custom blogging systems for my loved ones where I have total control over the simplicity and feature set. Your milage may vary
What does QTs license change years ago have to do with making a mono and dotgnu creating webservice platforms and C# portability?
I understand your concerns about mono helping microsoft, one can say the same thing about php and perl helping the MS server platform, gcc supporting MS development, and frozen bubble making windows a better gaming platform. This argument is old and has little effect in the real world.
You seem to no nothing about DotGNU. The project's goal is to create a free software web platform in much the same way the GNU project set out to create a free unix-like platform. One could argue that GNU/Linux has helped SCO, ATT, or HP to improve their commercial unix, but somehow I think they would all disagree.
And to revisit your issues with mono, claiming that C# and MSIL support for linux is helping microsoft more than it is helping anyone else is similar to saying that java support on linux is only good for Sun. I just don't see the evidence or reasoning.
Your tie in with QT makes no sense. I think you are missing something important. QT and GTK+ are completely unrelated to the webservice and binary portability arenas where mono and dotgnu are. Incidentally, there are libraries to use QT and GTK+ from C#.
Wow. So it costed under $100 for the hardware? Windows 2000 Pro costed about 300 bucks. I suppose its down closer to 200 now, but still, please let me know how you built your box for such an amazing price.
Then again, maybe you were only counting the OS cost in the price of VPC and not with the Shuttle computer. Oh well, I understand. But I wouldn't say VPC costs almost as much as a Wintel machine unless you are getting a pentium 2 from the thrift store with win98 preinstalled. I do agree VPC costs plenty of money, especially when you add in the OS.
Here's to hoping bochs gets fast enough to run linux with Wine on top for those rare needed windows apps.