Crack, worse part about that is , how long do you think its going to take for M$ to say, well 2000 has hit and of shelf life and we refuse to support it?
Or have they even gotten to that point yet?
Novell is marketing against NT 4.0 users that are at end of life, I think they will probably get some modicum of success at as well. Messman thinks hell have a large portion of M$ market share, I dunno if thats true or not, but Id love to see it happen.
Well now Id have to base that opinion on the almost omniscient cursorey opinion of Gates and how infallible IIS was (Pre-CodeRed of course). We all know how that ended up.
Its not that Im bitching. I dont use a windows box at home, doesnt bother me in the slightest. This theory of the Dumb You downed Security fix is really unintelligble though. How many people , actual professionals do you think look at all the default settings that SP2 puts on that creates problems for them.
Software incompatibility, ive heard all of that before. I think that largely Microsoft's attempt at monopolizing is a joke. By blocking the use of most of those apps, specified by the list in the root post, I see M$ admitting their own practices, ones for which they drastically try to deny. Lets block all the antispyware, firewall, and antivirus programs we can so that no person can use a third party program that M$ can supply to them for more money. Ive yet to see this happen so proprietarily in Linux. I dont see this happening there, based on the philosophy of the OS.
That be said, Chill out bitch, get you an Ubuntu installer, and quit trying to say that we are all in the wrong. Its getting old, and pretty damn quick.
I feel the project has done phenominally. I honestly hope that with its sucess that Debian itself will take a huge turn as well. Thats all I can see that happens. Im behind this guy all the way.
Tribes as a whole has been a series of games that I have followed for a long time. Most of my Clan member are Tribes fanatics, where Im the founder of said group. I remember the day when Sierra let Dynamix team go. Things changed , and then the concepts of what the game was supposed to be changed. No more Full bomber team. No more full Carrier of heavies raining down mortars on the Katabatic base. No more Full tank squads. The Pod was a sorrowful comparison to the Shrike.
Sorrowfully, the promise that it would ever get better never materialized. The Engine was sold to Garage Games, and the final patch to the game was somewhat of a joke. There are still Base players out there that play Classic Base , Clans like Rebel Dawgs , Gigawa and LadyDeth the founders ( www.rebeldawgs.com ). But the community there is so largely fragmented its sometimes hard to get any validity out of it. I give the clan credit where credit is due. They do well.
Then Sierra Released T:V. The promise of an exciting single player game (that fell horribly short and the plotline was a joke), and fantastic multiplayer game (based on unreal engine, who can go wrong with that, I mean seriously). Well the game play was OK, I was hyped, Id been a Tribes fan for a long time. Most of the older GWoS Team members that had been inactive for so long had come out of the woodwork to play it. The Team play sucked, it in no way comparted to Tribes 2. There was one patch, and that was it. The game play was ok, The single player was a joke, the dynamic just wasnt there.
And I wasnt the only one that felt that way, Numerous clans had come on to play T:V , and there are some that walked away faster than I have considered doing.
Just another clear sign that VUG is largely incapable of supporting a game to the level that it should. I really feel sorry for SWAT Fans. I really do.
its about time that someone made such a claim. Of course will Novell be successful? Whos to say. They may they may not.
I will say that Suse is a nice build of OS, and if they can properly provide a range of products, both server and workstation, then it might be as successful as RH.
I find that UserLinux is itself more of a Standardization group over a distro provider. I feel its more likely that Ubuntu will get some interesting development from such a relationship. I feel that Ubuntu has already proven itself amongst normal users , by normal I mean run of the mill standard Linux users (if there is such a thing called that). That be said, I feel also that Ubuntu is alsmost safe enough to put a non Linux user in front of it and with some nominal instruction.
I do aggree with prior opinions stating the non existence of certain packages(GCC and so forth), but thats easily remedied by a handy apt-get call. Of course its the opinion of some that you shouldnt have to do this, but thats a half a dozeon of one and six of the other fight, something not easily addressed.
Of course I think the biggest complaint about Ubuntu is the good old KDE Gnome fight. Of course this is why Kubuntu exists, have to make users happy I guess. I lead a relatively "Cholestoral Free" life myself.
Making brash statements like that will get you into trouble, mon ami. Especially in places like this one.
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Now then, as to what it is......
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I guess my unpatched, unused, utterly useless or removable install of IE on my only token windows machine in the house isnt going to be useable and become corrupt. Sigh....What am I to do?
=)
Of 3dfx's SLI rigs. The cards ran fast, and you got better FPS than anyone on just one card, But the Graphics were washed out pretty fiercely. So it was a push. Do you sacrifice bad colors for better FPS, or otherwise? I would imagine that the same SLI rigs done with Nvidia cards may produce the same result. Probably not near as bas as the Voodoo Cards did , but still a bit. That coupled with the alarmingly large amounts of money needed to run them, makes them undesireable for me.
nearly stupid as M$ is at times. I seem to remember hearing that Ransom Love had told McBride when he became CEO , that he wasnt aware of the shit he was going to stir up when Darl decided to sue everyone for Billions of Dollars.
Was this Premonition on Ransom's part?
possibly, seeing as now Love is a renewed Linux supporter, now (Though at the time he wasnt) Id be interested to hear what He has to say about all of this now that its about run its course.
Darl on the other hand, probably has the board that controls him committed to the idea to save the company, likely the reason they let him make all the wild and unfounded claims that hes permitted to make.
I can see clearly that IBMs 20+ project release on SF hasnt been hindered ( nor any other project of theirs of recent times ) by SCOs lawsuit against the company.
Thats a misconception, not every Linux developed app is Free or Open Sourced. There are many closed liscence/Proprietary Liscenced applications. Dont be so asinine as to make such a broad statement as
"All software that comes on every distro is free"
Thats a large idiot speaking. If you ever want to legitimize the business you have to follow certain business level practices to be successful. While open sourcing is good, ultimately in the end, someone has to pay out the cash to support it.
Why is RedHat so successful and still able to make money. Otherwise why would they charge you 2500$ for RH Enterprise AS.
Take your beans, and while your at it, Tell Redhat, Novell, Mandrake, Lycoris, Linare, Libranet, Xandros, and those other Dists that are actually trying to market themselves to make money to take their products off the shelf because its useless to sell something thats free.
Go home 12yo......come back grasshoppa when you have learned something.
Mandrake buys Conectiva, they should then pickup PClinuxOS, SAMLinux.
Come on Debian , cough up some money and buyout Xandros/Linspire/Libranet. While your at it, blow away Knoppix and every Knoppix Dist out there, and buy them out too. Klaus would love you for that Im sure.
Redhat should then in turn buyout CentOS/WhiteBOX/TaoLinux/Linare/LormaLinux/K12-Lin ux, Then get Trustix and TinySofa.
Gentoo should then pick up Vidalinux,SourceMage, Sourcerer, OneBase, NayvnOS and Arch linux for a Pretty penny (To end the Source Distro Wars) , or finish their Gentoo Installer project, thus leaving Vidalinux in the dust.
Slackware then in turn will have to buy out Vector, SLAX, MiniSlack, and BuffaloLinux. Im sure after Patrick Volkerding gets over his illness, hell have enough money for that anway.
Have to aggree with the both Parents here. Been working on a raised floor envoirn for a good long while. God save you if you have to move a cable , tracing that shit just hurts. It pains me every time I have think about doing it.
Dust, you say? We dont have Dust particles under there, they formed an entire city. Once a year one of us gets nominated to go down there and clean. Luckily Ive dodged that duty for a while now but I fear my time is coming soon.
"The setups were hypothetical, however. Both were in the most basic configuration, an approach that some in the audience suggested may tilt the results in favor of Windows, which comes with more features."
Ok, these results clearly were skewed in favor of M$ just by that statement alone. An unpatched apache in its base vanilla form vs IIS in its vanilla form , only because M$ has to set everything that could cause a problem to OFF or N/A by default. Bullshit.
The comment about a "wizard" for an "average" admin is also crap. MSCE's these days are book read idiots with no real time training. Having and MCSE now is just saying you sat down and read a book for x number of days, and you passed a test.
I really wish that these jokes of IT Researchers wouldnt make such outrageous claims.
Why dont you be a bigger asshole and go on head and block codeweavers and transgaming as well.
How long before this happens to the end user, where Microsoft scans a file and then denies the ability to download it because what it may call as malicious content ( anything with the word linux in it ).
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Crack, worse part about that is , how long do you think its going to take for M$ to say, well 2000 has hit and of shelf life and we refuse to support it?
Or have they even gotten to that point yet?
Novell is marketing against NT 4.0 users that are at end of life, I think they will probably get some modicum of success at as well. Messman thinks hell have a large portion of M$ market share, I dunno if thats true or not, but Id love to see it happen.
Well now Id have to base that opinion on the almost omniscient cursorey opinion of Gates and how infallible IIS was (Pre-CodeRed of course). We all know how that ended up.
Its not that Im bitching. I dont use a windows box at home, doesnt bother me in the slightest. This theory of the Dumb You downed Security fix is really unintelligble though. How many people , actual professionals do you think look at all the default settings that SP2 puts on that creates problems for them.
Software incompatibility, ive heard all of that before. I think that largely Microsoft's attempt at monopolizing is a joke. By blocking the use of most of those apps, specified by the list in the root post, I see M$ admitting their own practices, ones for which they drastically try to deny. Lets block all the antispyware, firewall, and antivirus programs we can so that no person can use a third party program that M$ can supply to them for more money. Ive yet to see this happen so proprietarily in Linux. I dont see this happening there, based on the philosophy of the OS.
That be said, Chill out bitch, get you an Ubuntu installer, and quit trying to say that we are all in the wrong. Its getting old, and pretty damn quick.
I feel the project has done phenominally. I honestly hope that with its sucess that Debian itself will take a huge turn as well. Thats all I can see that happens. Im behind this guy all the way.
Tribes as a whole has been a series of games that I have followed for a long time. Most of my Clan member are Tribes fanatics, where Im the founder of said group. I remember the day when Sierra let Dynamix team go. Things changed , and then the concepts of what the game was supposed to be changed. No more Full bomber team. No more full Carrier of heavies raining down mortars on the Katabatic base. No more Full tank squads. The Pod was a sorrowful comparison to the Shrike.
Sorrowfully, the promise that it would ever get better never materialized. The Engine was sold to Garage Games, and the final patch to the game was somewhat of a joke. There are still Base players out there that play Classic Base , Clans like Rebel Dawgs , Gigawa and LadyDeth the founders ( www.rebeldawgs.com ). But the community there is so largely fragmented its sometimes hard to get any validity out of it. I give the clan credit where credit is due. They do well.
Then Sierra Released T:V. The promise of an exciting single player game (that fell horribly short and the plotline was a joke), and fantastic multiplayer game (based on unreal engine, who can go wrong with that, I mean seriously). Well the game play was OK, I was hyped, Id been a Tribes fan for a long time. Most of the older GWoS Team members that had been inactive for so long had come out of the woodwork to play it. The Team play sucked, it in no way comparted to Tribes 2. There was one patch, and that was it. The game play was ok, The single player was a joke, the dynamic just wasnt there.
And I wasnt the only one that felt that way, Numerous clans had come on to play T:V , and there are some that walked away faster than I have considered doing.
Just another clear sign that VUG is largely incapable of supporting a game to the level that it should. I really feel sorry for SWAT Fans. I really do.
KB.
http://clan.gwos.org
its about time that someone made such a claim. Of course will Novell be successful? Whos to say. They may they may not.
I will say that Suse is a nice build of OS, and if they can properly provide a range of products, both server and workstation, then it might be as successful as RH.
I find that UserLinux is itself more of a Standardization group over a distro provider. I feel its more likely that Ubuntu will get some interesting development from such a relationship. I feel that Ubuntu has already proven itself amongst normal users , by normal I mean run of the mill standard Linux users (if there is such a thing called that). That be said, I feel also that Ubuntu is alsmost safe enough to put a non Linux user in front of it and with some nominal instruction.
I do aggree with prior opinions stating the non existence of certain packages(GCC and so forth), but thats easily remedied by a handy apt-get call. Of course its the opinion of some that you shouldnt have to do this, but thats a half a dozeon of one and six of the other fight, something not easily addressed.
Of course I think the biggest complaint about Ubuntu is the good old KDE Gnome fight. Of course this is why Kubuntu exists, have to make users happy I guess. I lead a relatively "Cholestoral Free" life myself.
Making brash statements like that will get you into trouble, mon ami. Especially in places like this one.
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With Hells Heart I stab at thee.
For Hate's Sake I spit my last breath at thee.
http://www.wikidsystems.com
Two Factor Auth over wireless devices. My friend Eric is the co-founder of the company.
I see this as valid for that application, but putting straight into the OS....I think not.
Sorry M$, Try again.
I guess my unpatched, unused, utterly useless or removable install of IE on my only token windows machine in the house isnt going to be useable and become corrupt. Sigh....What am I to do? =)
Just open up a Text editor. =)
That is perhaps true. Xservers just look cooler. =)
X-Servers good....very good.......better with Yellow Dog....=)
Of 3dfx's SLI rigs. The cards ran fast, and you got better FPS than anyone on just one card, But the Graphics were washed out pretty fiercely. So it was a push. Do you sacrifice bad colors for better FPS, or otherwise? I would imagine that the same SLI rigs done with Nvidia cards may produce the same result. Probably not near as bas as the Voodoo Cards did , but still a bit. That coupled with the alarmingly large amounts of money needed to run them, makes them undesireable for me.
nearly stupid as M$ is at times. I seem to remember hearing that Ransom Love had told McBride when he became CEO , that he wasnt aware of the shit he was going to stir up when Darl decided to sue everyone for Billions of Dollars.
Was this Premonition on Ransom's part?
possibly, seeing as now Love is a renewed Linux supporter, now (Though at the time he wasnt) Id be interested to hear what He has to say about all of this now that its about run its course.
Darl on the other hand, probably has the board that controls him committed to the idea to save the company, likely the reason they let him make all the wild and unfounded claims that hes permitted to make.
I can see clearly that IBMs 20+ project release on SF hasnt been hindered ( nor any other project of theirs of recent times ) by SCOs lawsuit against the company.
Hurry up IBM, go clone those to FM.
I have to aggree with hunger on this issue. Its common sense.
Thats a misconception, not every Linux developed app is Free or Open Sourced. There are many closed liscence/Proprietary Liscenced applications. Dont be so asinine as to make such a broad statement as
"All software that comes on every distro is free"
Thats a large idiot speaking. If you ever want to legitimize the business you have to follow certain business level practices to be successful. While open sourcing is good, ultimately in the end, someone has to pay out the cash to support it. Why is RedHat so successful and still able to make money. Otherwise why would they charge you 2500$ for RH Enterprise AS.
Take your beans, and while your at it, Tell Redhat, Novell, Mandrake, Lycoris, Linare, Libranet, Xandros, and those other Dists that are actually trying to market themselves to make money to take their products off the shelf because its useless to sell something thats free.
Go home 12yo......come back grasshoppa when you have learned something.
Novell buys Suse
n ux, Then get Trustix and TinySofa.
Mandrake buys Conectiva, they should then pickup PClinuxOS, SAMLinux.
Come on Debian , cough up some money and buyout Xandros/Linspire/Libranet. While your at it, blow away Knoppix and every Knoppix Dist out there, and buy them out too. Klaus would love you for that Im sure.
Redhat should then in turn buyout CentOS/WhiteBOX/TaoLinux/Linare/LormaLinux/K12-Li
Gentoo should then pick up Vidalinux,SourceMage, Sourcerer, OneBase, NayvnOS and Arch linux for a Pretty penny (To end the Source Distro Wars) , or finish their Gentoo Installer project, thus leaving Vidalinux in the dust.
Slackware then in turn will have to buy out Vector, SLAX, MiniSlack, and BuffaloLinux. Im sure after Patrick Volkerding gets over his illness, hell have enough money for that anway.
Whod I forget?
Have to aggree with the both Parents here. Been working on a raised floor envoirn for a good long while. God save you if you have to move a cable , tracing that shit just hurts. It pains me every time I have think about doing it.
Dust, you say? We dont have Dust particles under there, they formed an entire city. Once a year one of us gets nominated to go down there and clean. Luckily Ive dodged that duty for a while now but I fear my time is coming soon.
Some would be Linux turncoat, go code a chkrootkit windows port.
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http://www.thinkgeek.com
Best way to pimp your office with all the nessecaries, I just had to do it myself here recently.
"The setups were hypothetical, however. Both were in the most basic configuration, an approach that some in the audience suggested may tilt the results in favor of Windows, which comes with more features."
Ok, these results clearly were skewed in favor of M$ just by that statement alone. An unpatched apache in its base vanilla form vs IIS in its vanilla form , only because M$ has to set everything that could cause a problem to OFF or N/A by default. Bullshit.
The comment about a "wizard" for an "average" admin is also crap. MSCE's these days are book read idiots with no real time training. Having and MCSE now is just saying you sat down and read a book for x number of days, and you passed a test.
I really wish that these jokes of IT Researchers wouldnt make such outrageous claims.
Why dont you be a bigger asshole and go on head and block codeweavers and transgaming as well.
How long before this happens to the end user, where Microsoft scans a file and then denies the ability to download it because what it may call as malicious content ( anything with the word linux in it ).
Elinks. Just eliminate the issue entirely. =)