Who else sat down with pen and paper to figure out exactly how long you could spend checking the messages and playing tradewars before you had to start downloading the night's Cindy Crawford picture? Only me? Nothing really changes much, I guess.
One of the reasons they're all up here is because it's not California. Our seaport and air facilities are good enough, but nothing to crow about. But most everything but really heavy industry could do just fine here.
One of the reasons people stay here is the lifestyle you can get without having terribly insane amounts of money. If you're willing to commute for an no more than an hour, there are still plenty of places where an ordinary working stiff has a chance of getting a dedent house. That's changing, but if you're smart, it can be done.
A lot of people like the more relaxed attitude, the fresh food, we're growing a nice musical culture, and there is a strong counter-culture streak that appeals to some. You could do worse.
My parents moved here from North Dakota and Kansas, and they went nuts. They are a bit more rural than most people here, but they just couldn't believe the huge variety of fruits, veggies & other stuff you could pick or grow for yourself. Cheap.
For a family like his, getting two, nice, private, wooded acres within an hour of downtown Portland would be no problem.
The sprawl is pushing the urban growth boundaries, but most of the tech companies are crowded into a relatively narrow "Sunset Corridor." Once you get onto that stretch of road, you're no more than 20 minutes away from serious billions worth of tech companies. If you go more than a few miles laterally, you have to use a shotgun on the deer that eat your garden every once in awhile, just to make them respect you.
It's not for everybody, but for a person that lives in a gargantuan desert sprawl built in a desert flood plain, it could be a blessed relief. If they can cope with the three week drizzles.
I'm assuming that you're refering to the dancemonkeyboy video. Yeah, he was wobbling & flabby, but who cares. The scary part is that he could say "I love this company" with a semi-straight face. It's just a company. I fail to see how anyone can love 50,000+people that you have never met, and I doubt the reason of anyone that does.
That being said, there are plenty of reasons to dislike that group and the leaders without getting on them about their "beauty." After all, our hero doesn't look all that great in a Speedo (oh god, my mind's eye!)
I don't know why we think KB isn't on our side, he just admitted that the Tannenbaum was morally good and excellent. Or perhaps he was saying that the professor has a higher social rank than the average pig farmer, but isn't quite noble.
It is a quaint and annoying affectation. We aren't on the Orient Express anymore.
The story is that one of my ancestors was a minor English noble that got in trouble with one of the serving girls. He paid off one of his men to take her to America and we've been bastards ever since.
True or not, I just don't know. We have been screwed out of our inheritance for so long that I don't think the House of **cough** Lords or whoever is in charge of these things would listen.
Anyway, History, as we teach it, is a relatively new way of discovering and presenting truth. Many ancient greekish peoples would say we are being vulgar and trivial about the whole thing, ignoring the more important and eternal truths. They also would have been shocked at how crappy our memories are.
Memories can be trained. Druids (real, not the freaks that like to get stoned at Stonehenge) had to spend 20+ years memorizing their material. They could recite for days. Every year some guy had to recite all the laws from memory in Iceland. I think he was called the Law giver, and if he left something out, it was out for that year. I'm a bit fuzzy on that one though.
If memorization was as important now as it was then, I'd know exactly who my "noble" ancestor was, who his lackey was, and everything since then. At least we would have a juicy story, whether it would be true or not is a different thing.
Question: Are there any restrictions on what kind of radios you can use on the grounds on an airport? Is there any reason why the bagel guy can't put up a free hot-spot with a "Have a fresh, toasted bagel with cream cheese, you know you want it!" graphic on the login?
This seems like a no brainer. Is there some tenant agreement clauses that stop this?
I wonder if the most useful application for this propane cycle business is in new kinds of nuclear reactors. If his fluid can work with a cooler running system, the extra safety gear and auxiliary systems could be built lighter and cheaper. Of course many of these systems would have to run in parallel to get the same output, but it's an interesting idea at least.
I rremember picking up apromo brochure from GE a while back and they were crowing about a 1 or 2 percent increase in the efficiency of their industrial gas turbines. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, there is no free thermodynamic lunch...
I'm certainly no engineer. A class I took toured a half built nuclear reactor building. Everything was custom built and gargantuan. A technology that can use smaller parts and stardard stuff may be useful. Again, i maybe spewing stupidity here!
Maybe it's just me, but I've found that the concept of "team" is most abused in humanities classes. In my very small experience you can count on it.
In my core classes (mass comm, yes, a den of idiots) I was almost always able to get with a crew that cared. Maybe I was lucky. In my Anatomy & Physiology class my 3 blond bimbo lab partners couldn't see the point in dissecting a cat because they were going to do physical therapy on humans. The only part they took their time with, and enjoyed, was dissecting the cat's testicles. No, I'm not joking.
I got a funny look from the lab TA at the first lab when I said I was a mass comm. major. That was fun.
People have differing, innate, and constant needs for hurt, pain, and suffering.
The implication is that certain people will go to extraordinary lengths to kill themselves if you take away ordinary mortality. A person might fill their need by riding motorcycles too fast and suffering the consequences. A person whose life is already hard will have their misery quotion filled already and won't seek it out.
Some people always are getting addicted to something, some people are always sad and sabotaging relationships. Misery is a constant. If we don't get it naturally, we'll find it.
This reminds me of the Genesis account of the antedeluvians. They had hundreds of years to perfect their natures, for good or ill. Look how that turned out. Even if it's just a cute oral tradition, the idea of the perfectability of man's nature is worth reviewing.
Who's up for a Charles Manson with 800 year lifespan? Heck, I can't say I wouldn't want to kill a few annoying *****s if I only had to spend 20 years out of 800 in jail. A true life sentence would really suck though. People would be sure to commit really high grade aggravated murder in order to insure the death penalty if they got caught. Some half-baked theory huh, and it's only wednesday.
You might want to check out these guys. The parachute systems aren't beefy enough to handle the whole craft but if you blow away everything but the cabin capsule, all some of the issues are avoidable. The system built for a Cessna 172 takes about 79 pounds of usable weight away. That's not a small amount when you're talking cutting edge space fun. That could be a stopper.
It seems to me that this law will be struck down. Isn't Gmail in the federal regulatory domain, or shouldn't it be?
Even if you ignore the goodness or badness of the restrictions this California resolution imposesit's a big problem. Trying to program to obey 51 different groups of technical ignoramuses has to be hell.
The Sonora is a relatively lively desert. But if you want wasteland, you won't have to go far. I've flown over some of those areas in a little Piper Cub, and believe me, there are huge areas of wasteland. the only thing there living in some of those areas are bugs, and a few lizards, but even they are pissed about getting stuck there.
Finding wasteland isn't a problem. Finding waste land that has water and roads might be. It's still an interesting idea.
are things likely to get wet? I know this is a stupid question, but it occurse to me that Lysol would never touch these little buggers because the surface tension of the droplets might bee to high and it wouldn't wet the small crevices in the skin.
Dumb question, and mostly idle curiosity really.
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That's about as different as things get. My father's family are a bunch of Germans that left a little town close to the Black Sea. When they are talking without thinking about it you can barely tell that they have any accent at all. It's more of a difference in pacing and volume. They sometimes tend to clip the ends of their words a bit.
Up there you pretty much have all the different immigrant groups living in separate towns. The Germans, Russians, Swedes and others get along well enough but they tend to live apart. The Germans tell dumb Swede Jokes and I assume the Swedes have dumb Kraut jokes. From what I've heard they're pretty much the same jokes though.
My mom's family has been living in Louisiana so long that everyone has forgotten who is what and what groups have been breeding with who. My mom grew up with a faily thick southern accent but she's pretty much lost it by now. It only pops up when she talks to family or when she's under stress. I've seen her get out of a traffic ticket because the cop thought her accent was cute.
In general, people are prejudiced against those with thick southern accents. It's considered "uneducated" or "low." To a northerner, they sound like they're talking really slow, dragging out their words and that they never finish pronouncing anything.
There are, of course, micro-regional accents, but most of the deep south is lumped into one group. I have no idea how the 'southern" accent came to be, but it's definitely different from the rest of the country.
My dad said that the reasons southerns talk so slow is that it's too hot down there to do anything fast, and that the reason North Dakotans talk fast and clip words is that if they left their mouths open long enough to talk like southerners their tongues would freeze. That caught him a good day and a half worth of hell from my mother.
Non-americans, especially non-english speakers may not pick up on the nuances that we can, of course, and once they do start learning they'd probably be puzzled at why most TV & radio people sound like they're from the mid-west. The trick is to get them hammered and then see what they sound like. Many educated people work on it, and they can turn their non-standard accents on and off, at will.
It seems to me that the areas that are most heavily mind also grow or have easy access to heroin. I say we use one problem to solve another.
Why not get a bunch of rats, and make them into a bunch of raging crack whores. during training the lab techs could mix small amouns of the explosive they are trying to clear in with the drugs they get as a reward for doing a job.
Then you haul a bunch of these rats into the target area, wait till they are really jonesing for a fix and let them go. It might be good to tell everyone to stay under cover first though.
Like the above and the article points out, the rats may not set off the mines by walking on them, but would they if they started clawing at them thinking that somebody hid a dime bag inside?
I know this sounds terribly bloody minded, but it seems like a good choice on ethical and rational grounds.
And, I admit, it would be fun to see the PETA freaks explode in rage.
If I remember the story correctly, Navajo demands very precise pronunciation and accents. getting the nuances just right is supposed to be next to impossible right for a non-native speaker.
So, even if a few Japanese operators did learn Navajo, they wouldn't be able to spoof their way onto the network. Kinda like trying to read the state of a photon without blowing the secret, maybe.
Throw in the fact that the Japanese probably didn't care at all about the various tribes, even if they did know what a Navajo was, and you have a tough nut to crack. The war didn't last long enough for them to adapt.
I remember watching some TV special about the code talkers, and one of the old guys was practically laughing when he was telling his story. Good stuff.
This is HIV we're talking about, it's pretty much a death sentence. That means that you'll have a percentage of the infected that just roll over and wait to die. It also means that a smaller percentage will do anything to beat it.
I think these bio-tech martyrs should be used for the greater good, but we can't waste them. first of all, it's not right to waste even walking dead-meat. It just isn't. Secondly, people that are willing to take the chance based on truly, in depth, informed consent can't be common.
I don't know where the balance is, but clinical trials for this could go a lot faster than the trials for the next Claritin. People will take hellish risks for this one if it's halfway reasonable.
Hey... yet another slashweenie mouthing off about something out of their area of expertise!
Wasn't there some kind of Kevlar-like fiber used in the frame of the craft that carried Spirit and Opportunity that was selected specifically for it's low temperature performance? I think I remember that it was a relatively new specialty material.
Of course if the Baltic gets as cold as space, they better concentrate on installing stealth skates on the Visby.
I have read that book. It truly is an amazing piece of work, but the interested shouldn't stop there.
Since this is an American (cue pedantic jackasses) dominated board, and it's a well known fact that we don't know squat about our own history, I have to recommend a lot of background reading. Read a little French, a little English & some general European history. Then go for some enlightenment era philosphy.
Alexis de Tocqueville was no great fan of American style democracy. Most people miss that point. It's a good read.
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Who else sat down with pen and paper to figure out exactly how long you could spend checking the messages and playing tradewars before you had to start downloading the night's Cindy Crawford picture? Only me? Nothing really changes much, I guess.
Yep, Howard Dean & Steve Ballmer must be brothers. Go monkeyboy, go!
Big, slimy, spotted banana slugs. You will watch where you sit after one experience.
One of the reasons they're all up here is because it's not California. Our seaport and air facilities are good enough, but nothing to crow about. But most everything but really heavy industry could do just fine here.
One of the reasons people stay here is the lifestyle you can get without having terribly insane amounts of money. If you're willing to commute for an no more than an hour, there are still plenty of places where an ordinary working stiff has a chance of getting a dedent house. That's changing, but if you're smart, it can be done.
A lot of people like the more relaxed attitude, the fresh food, we're growing a nice musical culture, and there is a strong counter-culture streak that appeals to some. You could do worse.
My parents moved here from North Dakota and Kansas, and they went nuts. They are a bit more rural than most people here, but they just couldn't believe the huge variety of fruits, veggies & other stuff you could pick or grow for yourself. Cheap.
For a family like his, getting two, nice, private, wooded acres within an hour of downtown Portland would be no problem.The sprawl is pushing the urban growth boundaries, but most of the tech companies are crowded into a relatively narrow "Sunset Corridor." Once you get onto that stretch of road, you're no more than 20 minutes away from serious billions worth of tech companies. If you go more than a few miles laterally, you have to use a shotgun on the deer that eat your garden every once in awhile, just to make them respect you.
It's not for everybody, but for a person that lives in a gargantuan desert sprawl built in a desert flood plain, it could be a blessed relief. If they can cope with the three week drizzles.
If we make sure to keep him dry at all times. After all, old Oregonians don't die, the just rust away.
I'm assuming that you're refering to the dancemonkeyboy video. Yeah, he was wobbling & flabby, but who cares. The scary part is that he could say "I love this company" with a semi-straight face. It's just a company. I fail to see how anyone can love 50,000+people that you have never met, and I doubt the reason of anyone that does.
That being said, there are plenty of reasons to dislike that group and the leaders without getting on them about their "beauty." After all, our hero doesn't look all that great in a Speedo (oh god, my mind's eye!)
I don't know why we think KB isn't on our side, he just admitted that the Tannenbaum was morally good and excellent. Or perhaps he was saying that the professor has a higher social rank than the average pig farmer, but isn't quite noble.
It is a quaint and annoying affectation. We aren't on the Orient Express anymore.
The story is that one of my ancestors was a minor English noble that got in trouble with one of the serving girls. He paid off one of his men to take her to America and we've been bastards ever since.
True or not, I just don't know. We have been screwed out of our inheritance for so long that I don't think the House of **cough** Lords or whoever is in charge of these things would listen.
Anyway, History, as we teach it, is a relatively new way of discovering and presenting truth. Many ancient greekish peoples would say we are being vulgar and trivial about the whole thing, ignoring the more important and eternal truths. They also would have been shocked at how crappy our memories are.
Memories can be trained. Druids (real, not the freaks that like to get stoned at Stonehenge) had to spend 20+ years memorizing their material. They could recite for days. Every year some guy had to recite all the laws from memory in Iceland. I think he was called the Law giver, and if he left something out, it was out for that year. I'm a bit fuzzy on that one though.
If memorization was as important now as it was then, I'd know exactly who my "noble" ancestor was, who his lackey was, and everything since then. At least we would have a juicy story, whether it would be true or not is a different thing.
Question: Are there any restrictions on what kind of radios you can use on the grounds on an airport? Is there any reason why the bagel guy can't put up a free hot-spot with a "Have a fresh, toasted bagel with cream cheese, you know you want it!" graphic on the login?
This seems like a no brainer. Is there some tenant agreement clauses that stop this?
I wonder if the most useful application for this propane cycle business is in new kinds of nuclear reactors. If his fluid can work with a cooler running system, the extra safety gear and auxiliary systems could be built lighter and cheaper. Of course many of these systems would have to run in parallel to get the same output, but it's an interesting idea at least.
I rremember picking up apromo brochure from GE a while back and they were crowing about a 1 or 2 percent increase in the efficiency of their industrial gas turbines. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, there is no free thermodynamic lunch...
I'm certainly no engineer. A class I took toured a half built nuclear reactor building. Everything was custom built and gargantuan. A technology that can use smaller parts and stardard stuff may be useful. Again, i maybe spewing stupidity here!
Maybe it's just me, but I've found that the concept of "team" is most abused in humanities classes. In my very small experience you can count on it.
In my core classes (mass comm, yes, a den of idiots) I was almost always able to get with a crew that cared. Maybe I was lucky. In my Anatomy & Physiology class my 3 blond bimbo lab partners couldn't see the point in dissecting a cat because they were going to do physical therapy on humans. The only part they took their time with, and enjoyed, was dissecting the cat's testicles. No, I'm not joking.
I got a funny look from the lab TA at the first lab when I said I was a mass comm. major. That was fun.
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The implication is that certain people will go to extraordinary lengths to kill themselves if you take away ordinary mortality. A person might fill their need by riding motorcycles too fast and suffering the consequences. A person whose life is already hard will have their misery quotion filled already and won't seek it out.
Some people always are getting addicted to something, some people are always sad and sabotaging relationships. Misery is a constant. If we don't get it naturally, we'll find it.
This reminds me of the Genesis account of the antedeluvians. They had hundreds of years to perfect their natures, for good or ill. Look how that turned out. Even if it's just a cute oral tradition, the idea of the perfectability of man's nature is worth reviewing.
Who's up for a Charles Manson with 800 year lifespan? Heck, I can't say I wouldn't want to kill a few annoying *****s if I only had to spend 20 years out of 800 in jail. A true life sentence would really suck though. People would be sure to commit really high grade aggravated murder in order to insure the death penalty if they got caught. Some half-baked theory huh, and it's only wednesday.
You might want to check out these guys. The parachute systems aren't beefy enough to handle the whole craft but if you blow away everything but the cabin capsule, all some of the issues are avoidable. The system built for a Cessna 172 takes about 79 pounds of usable weight away. That's not a small amount when you're talking cutting edge space fun. That could be a stopper.
It seems to me that this law will be struck down. Isn't Gmail in the federal regulatory domain, or shouldn't it be?
Even if you ignore the goodness or badness of the restrictions this California resolution imposesit's a big problem. Trying to program to obey 51 different groups of technical ignoramuses has to be hell.
True.
The Sonora is a relatively lively desert. But if you want wasteland, you won't have to go far. I've flown over some of those areas in a little Piper Cub, and believe me, there are huge areas of wasteland. the only thing there living in some of those areas are bugs, and a few lizards, but even they are pissed about getting stuck there.
Finding wasteland isn't a problem. Finding waste land that has water and roads might be. It's still an interesting idea.
are things likely to get wet? I know this is a stupid question, but it occurse to me that Lysol would never touch these little buggers because the surface tension of the droplets might bee to high and it wouldn't wet the small crevices in the skin.
Dumb question, and mostly idle curiosity really.
That's about as different as things get. My father's family are a bunch of Germans that left a little town close to the Black Sea. When they are talking without thinking about it you can barely tell that they have any accent at all. It's more of a difference in pacing and volume. They sometimes tend to clip the ends of their words a bit.
Up there you pretty much have all the different immigrant groups living in separate towns. The Germans, Russians, Swedes and others get along well enough but they tend to live apart. The Germans tell dumb Swede Jokes and I assume the Swedes have dumb Kraut jokes. From what I've heard they're pretty much the same jokes though.
My mom's family has been living in Louisiana so long that everyone has forgotten who is what and what groups have been breeding with who. My mom grew up with a faily thick southern accent but she's pretty much lost it by now. It only pops up when she talks to family or when she's under stress. I've seen her get out of a traffic ticket because the cop thought her accent was cute.
In general, people are prejudiced against those with thick southern accents. It's considered "uneducated" or "low." To a northerner, they sound like they're talking really slow, dragging out their words and that they never finish pronouncing anything.
There are, of course, micro-regional accents, but most of the deep south is lumped into one group. I have no idea how the 'southern" accent came to be, but it's definitely different from the rest of the country.
My dad said that the reasons southerns talk so slow is that it's too hot down there to do anything fast, and that the reason North Dakotans talk fast and clip words is that if they left their mouths open long enough to talk like southerners their tongues would freeze. That caught him a good day and a half worth of hell from my mother.
Non-americans, especially non-english speakers may not pick up on the nuances that we can, of course, and once they do start learning they'd probably be puzzled at why most TV & radio people sound like they're from the mid-west. The trick is to get them hammered and then see what they sound like. Many educated people work on it, and they can turn their non-standard accents on and off, at will.
Y'all pick this up right quickly, you hear?
It seems to me that the areas that are most heavily mind also grow or have easy access to heroin. I say we use one problem to solve another. Why not get a bunch of rats, and make them into a bunch of raging crack whores. during training the lab techs could mix small amouns of the explosive they are trying to clear in with the drugs they get as a reward for doing a job. Then you haul a bunch of these rats into the target area, wait till they are really jonesing for a fix and let them go. It might be good to tell everyone to stay under cover first though. Like the above and the article points out, the rats may not set off the mines by walking on them, but would they if they started clawing at them thinking that somebody hid a dime bag inside? I know this sounds terribly bloody minded, but it seems like a good choice on ethical and rational grounds. And, I admit, it would be fun to see the PETA freaks explode in rage.
If I remember the story correctly, Navajo demands very precise pronunciation and accents. getting the nuances just right is supposed to be next to impossible right for a non-native speaker.
So, even if a few Japanese operators did learn Navajo, they wouldn't be able to spoof their way onto the network. Kinda like trying to read the state of a photon without blowing the secret, maybe.
Throw in the fact that the Japanese probably didn't care at all about the various tribes, even if they did know what a Navajo was, and you have a tough nut to crack. The war didn't last long enough for them to adapt.
I remember watching some TV special about the code talkers, and one of the old guys was practically laughing when he was telling his story. Good stuff.
You are entirely right, he was not mouthing off. I was. I haven't studied bio-ethics or medicine. I should have been much clearer. Sorry.
This is HIV we're talking about, it's pretty much a death sentence. That means that you'll have a percentage of the infected that just roll over and wait to die. It also means that a smaller percentage will do anything to beat it.
I think these bio-tech martyrs should be used for the greater good, but we can't waste them. first of all, it's not right to waste even walking dead-meat. It just isn't. Secondly, people that are willing to take the chance based on truly, in depth, informed consent can't be common.
I don't know where the balance is, but clinical trials for this could go a lot faster than the trials for the next Claritin. People will take hellish risks for this one if it's halfway reasonable.
Hey... yet another slashweenie mouthing off about something out of their area of expertise!
H... you get the rest.
Wasn't there some kind of Kevlar-like fiber used in the frame of the craft that carried Spirit and Opportunity that was selected specifically for it's low temperature performance? I think I remember that it was a relatively new specialty material.
Of course if the Baltic gets as cold as space, they better concentrate on installing stealth skates on the Visby.
Well, the article did go on to talk about a real, working robo-woman. Maybe that's what we... err you need.
I have read that book. It truly is an amazing piece of work, but the interested shouldn't stop there.
Since this is an American (cue pedantic jackasses) dominated board, and it's a well known fact that we don't know squat about our own history, I have to recommend a lot of background reading. Read a little French, a little English & some general European history. Then go for some enlightenment era philosphy.
Alexis de Tocqueville was no great fan of American style democracy. Most people miss that point. It's a good read.