Nobody gets my point. I am not saying, "we invented the network protocols so we should reign supreme." I am saying, "we built a network based on published protocols. Everyone connected to it knowing we are the decision makers." Anyone is free to build a network. In fact, I have one in my own home. I control who has access. I pass out the IP addresses. I connect to the Internet so I have to abide by the rules of whoever makes policies and sets standards for the Internet. But in my own home no one tells me what to do (my wife doesn't count when it comes to the network).
If there was only one fire in the world, somewhere in Africa, and everyone had to go to that one fire for light, heat, and warmth, then your analogy would work. The Africans could set the rules for fire-related activites. However, fire technology is well known and documented so we can all have our own fires and govern them as we see fit (subject to local laws). It's the same with the Internet. We built a network but the technology is well known and documented. There's no reason to come to our fire and demand a say in how we tend it; go build your own fire.
As for the NSA, I'm sorry you missed my point. I was trying to say the US didn't hook your country up to the Internet without your country's knowledge. Your country connected to the Internet knowing who runs it. Why complain now? Because it turned out to be such a good thing? Why wasn't control of the Internet a concern earlier? You talk about freedom and "interference from the state". The state was there first...you didn't have to be part of the Internet. As I said in an earlier post, if state control of a resource is such a concern then maybe someone should have considered this *before* getting all wired up. The US didn't swoop in and take control...it had it all along. Everyone else willingly joined up knowing this. Perhaps you should take this up with whoever runs your country's infrastructure.
I don't consider myself a global citizen foremost. I never claimed I did. Sure, I live on Earth so I'm a citizen of Earth. But you know what? I'm selfish. I know we have a concentration of wealth here in the US, and in my home I have a concentration of wealth relative to other US citizens. I like it that way. Would you expect me to say otherwise? Note that doesn't mean I support all the policies of the US; I certainly don't. But from a personal standpoint and for raising a family, there's no place I'd rather be. And there's nothing wrong with saying that. If you define "extreme nationalism" as choosing to live in a nice suburb in a wealthy country rather than in a yurt in the outskirts of Ulan Bator then I guess you're right, I am an extreme nationalist.
I'll tell you what. If we ever become dissatisfied with how W3C is running things we'll go start our own organization. That would be a more apt analogy than your weak reference to the heritage of Berners-Lee (or Cailliau, whichever you meant).
Football fails as an analogy. It would work if the US also wanted to run all intranets that used the same protocols as the Internet.
Look at it this way. The English invent football and they build a grand football stadium. The football games are revolutionary and soon everyone wants to field a football team. The English accomodate all these teams and matches between nations are held in the grand English football stadium. After years of these matches the nations of the world decide the rules committe should be made up of more than just the English. England says, "No, we built the stadium and invented the game. You are welcome to create derivate rules and build your own stadiums. If you want to play in our stadium then you have to play by our rules." That seems closer to what I was trying to say. Think IRL.
Thank you for your grand link pasting efforts. However, this is not about nationalism. Being a nation built on immigration we recognize, value, and sometimes improve upon contributions from the world over. The problem with your argument is the US isn't complaining about anything you listed. I'm not aware of anyone complaining that China invented paper money, or China controls the production of paper money. See, I'm not even sure how that fits. We're not complaining about our republican (note: lowercase r) form of government. The closest you come to something that fits the discussion is the world wide web, which is governed by W3C. I'm not aware of any complaints about that, are you?
I'm not saying "US is #1" or "world is teh sux0r!". My point is that the US made the investment in money, time, knowledge, material. We did not send out armies of technicians to secretly wire your countries with network cable. I'm pretty sure you guys said, "Hey, look what they built. That's pretty cool. Let's hook up to it." An alternate scenario has instead, "Hey, look what they built. That's pretty cool. I'm not comfortable with the US governance of this network though. Fortunately the protocol is open and well documented. Let's get build our own similar network, but instead it will be governed by the all countries. If we need to we can bridge to the US network later."
So you see, it could have gone differently but you didn't choose that path. Wishing you had now is sour grapes.
Isolationist view? Not at all. This has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with freedom to choose one's course of action. Growing up in the US I learned I have choices. I chose what to study in school, I chose what job to take, and I'm currently choosing what new job to change to. I am free to choose what clothes I wear and I'm even free to make this decision based on where the clothes are made. I don't have to use Windows, but I do. I have access to over 100 TV channels but I only watch the programming I want to watch.
This is why I don't understand why you're upset that you get US programming. Assuming you're Christopher Burke, the registrant of craznar.com, you live in Australia. I'm not up on Australian law but I'm pretty sure I would have heard if there was a law requiring you to watch US programming. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If it's on your TV it's there probably because someone thinks they can make money off of showing it. If you have something like public access TV (as is required here in the US), you are free to create your own entertainment and broadcast it. And ironically, thanks to the Internet, you can probably find, download, and distribute the programming you value.
So, Christopher, don't resort to name calling and rhetoric. Take your passion, gather up other smart individuals, and start the ANZnet. The US doesn't own your cabling. Heck, with wireless you don't even need cabling. Hating the US won't get you anywhere...that's not constructive.
Did the US force you to connect to the Internet? Could you have instead banded together to make your own network? How the Internet works has long been public knowledge. Most of the people on the planet live outside the US, including many or most of the smartest engineers. In addition, most of the world's resources and assets (i.e. wealth) lie outside the US borders. Why not start the UNternet or EUternet or INDIAnet or NotUSnet and include the whole world except the US? I promise G. Bush will not invade your country with geeks carrying routers and spools of Cat5E cable.
The Internet is a global resource only because you voluntarily connected to it, knowing full well who controls it. You are welcome to our research and are free to improve upon what we've built, and you don't even have to invite us to be a part of it though it would be nice if you did. However, don't come to a picnic in my backyard and demand a say in how I landscape my yard.
Blu-Ray DVD players will ship with a Java VM. The interactive menus on Blu-Ray titles will be written in Java. I don't think MS is going to back a standard that puts a Java VM in everyone's living room.
Hi. I'm the submitter. The reason I wrote "shrill" is because when I read through his site the image came to mind of my wife berating me. If that's not shrill, I don't know what is (and I can safely write this non-anonymously because she's probably never even heard of slashdot.)
I wasn't referencing his point of view or that he isn't "going along to get along." I applaud his efforts at bringing this issue to light and I'm very happy the article was accepted for the front page. I'd hate for this to fall off the radar, especially since I live in MD. It's just that I found the tone of his writing a bit grating...
Right, then the chip would have value...something worth the premium cost the chip demands. If there aren't enough benefits to overcome the cost, well, then you're in that area where you have one just to have one.
The "almighty buck" won't shuffle it aside...people will. If the processor is not cost-effective then it won't catch on. However, the processor may become the SUV of chips. It may not be the most cost-effective solution but a purchaser may feel it helps him compensate for his undersized penis.
You know, when I started writing this post that's honestly not where I was going. I was going to make some point about how marketing may overcome the possible lack of value of the chip (a la VHS vs Beta) but then the post just headed south...
I'm sure it's not either. In fact, it was mentioned in the article.
These last two may seem uncomfortably low for your thumb until you turn the controller 90 degrees and it becomes just like an old 8-bit NES joypad, with the D-pad under your left thumb and "a" and "b" under your right. (Don't forget-Nintendo has promised downloadable versions of their classic games for the Revolution's "Virtual Console.")
You didn't read the article, did you? For shame...
"I use Q-Tip brand cotton swabs by Johnson and Johnson because they dig out 34% more earwax* than store brand swabs. My game has improved since switching to Q-Tips as I can now more clearly hear the CTs sneaking up to rescue the hosties."
"Ever since we equipped our BF2 Medics with Band-aid brand bandages from Johnson and Johnson, our team recovers more quickly compared to when he would just lick the wounds."
* - Q-tips should only be used in the outer ear to prevent impaction of wax or damage to the eardrum.
In researching this post I learned that Q-tips were originally called "Baby Gays". It's true! Check for yourself...
The Hurricane Research Division of the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory has a section of their FAQ dedicated to "Tropical cyclone modification and myths".
As for the submitter's ideas, well, I don't think NOAA will be sending him the Segway he asks for on his home page. Take his "plowing" idea. Please. (Thanks, I'll be here all week) I haven't done the math but I'd think that towing a device a half mile wide that extends several feet below the surface of the water would slow a submarine more than 10 mph. But let's say you had an army, er, navy of submarines to plow up a square 465 miles on a side over a month. The mixing wouldn't last that long, and such an area is miniscule compared to the area of tropical cyclone formation.
The sprinkler idea has problems on many fronts. Even if you could deploy hundreds of such sprinklers the amount of water brought up would not effectively cool the surface. The cooler water would be rapidly warmed by the sun.
The iceberg idea is dealt with in the FAQ linked above. He sure seems to have a thing for submarines though. Submarines are probably the worst choice craft to accomplish his scheme. They're not designed for surface travel. Better to use surface craft for all the towing (plows, sprinklers, icebergs) required.
And yes, I am a meteorologist, though not a tropical meteorologist, and none of these answers required meteorological answers. Kudos to the submitter on getting his home page posted on Slashdot!
One exception: I know a guy, just turned 23 this year, joined a company at $92k. His benefits are on the light side though.
Some interesting benefits/perks I've seen:
Hourly pay with the expectation of 46 weeks of work annually. Work more, earn more.
Work a certain number of hours (somewhere around 1900), go on the company Caribbean cruise (all expenses paid for employee and guest)
Referral bonus of 5% of referred employee's billable earnings...each year the referred employee is with the company.These are 40 hour weeks. Sometimes more is necessary but in general the hours are very flexible and reasonable. This isn't like the dot-com startup world.
How many times have you read here on slashdot, "I stay with Windows because of the games." I think Windows is safe for the moment. Look at the system requirements for "Mindrover" (for which a random plug was on the screen when I was checking out the contest image":
Linux Kernel 2.2.x or later
GNU C Libraries (glibc) 2.1.x
XFree86 Release 3.3.5
200 MHz x86 Processor (300 MHz or better is recommended)
3D graphics accelerator with OpenGL? drivers
32 MB RAM
OSS compatible sound card
70 MB free hard disk space
4x CD-ROM drive
"Ok, Mom, now what version of glibc do you have? 2.0.9? Damn you, I told you to update that! I suppose you're still running kernel 2.1.5 too. I can't even believe we're related. By the way, can I bring my laundry over?"
The marketing team came up with the promotion without telling the developers. Now the developers are frantically writing the game as the pixels are revealed. Will the evil tactics of the marketeers plaster the developers with the "vaporware" label? Will the l33t coding skills of the developers make them rich beyond their wildest dreams, allowing them to spin off into their own company and leave the marketeers behind?
Oh wait, this is for Linux. They won't get rich...one guy will buy the game and everyone else will get the torrent of it.
Non-approved? Just a few weeks ago a memo came down from on high (on the government side) allowing open source software in without the rigorous process previously required (the formal request, the security study, the approval by the government security official). I hadn't heard about it until I received an e-mail basically stating, "In accordance with (whatever the memo number is) allowing open source software to bypass the introduction process, you'll find dom4j located..." and the address of an internal anonymous ftp site. I had been working dom4j for months, and actually had given up on it and even changed companies since I requested it. At the ftp site was all the open source stuff everyone had requested.
Now, putting it into a production environment (vs our local development systems) is a different story. The system as a whole will still go through the multi-level approval process.
As for keyloggers, who cares? Where is the data going to go? The system is not connected to the Internet. It's quite isolated.
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Nobody gets my point. I am not saying, "we invented the network protocols so we should reign supreme." I am saying, "we built a network based on published protocols. Everyone connected to it knowing we are the decision makers." Anyone is free to build a network. In fact, I have one in my own home. I control who has access. I pass out the IP addresses. I connect to the Internet so I have to abide by the rules of whoever makes policies and sets standards for the Internet. But in my own home no one tells me what to do (my wife doesn't count when it comes to the network).
If there was only one fire in the world, somewhere in Africa, and everyone had to go to that one fire for light, heat, and warmth, then your analogy would work. The Africans could set the rules for fire-related activites. However, fire technology is well known and documented so we can all have our own fires and govern them as we see fit (subject to local laws). It's the same with the Internet. We built a network but the technology is well known and documented. There's no reason to come to our fire and demand a say in how we tend it; go build your own fire.
Why do you remain anonymous?
As for the NSA, I'm sorry you missed my point. I was trying to say the US didn't hook your country up to the Internet without your country's knowledge. Your country connected to the Internet knowing who runs it. Why complain now? Because it turned out to be such a good thing? Why wasn't control of the Internet a concern earlier? You talk about freedom and "interference from the state". The state was there first...you didn't have to be part of the Internet. As I said in an earlier post, if state control of a resource is such a concern then maybe someone should have considered this *before* getting all wired up. The US didn't swoop in and take control...it had it all along. Everyone else willingly joined up knowing this. Perhaps you should take this up with whoever runs your country's infrastructure.
I don't consider myself a global citizen foremost. I never claimed I did. Sure, I live on Earth so I'm a citizen of Earth. But you know what? I'm selfish. I know we have a concentration of wealth here in the US, and in my home I have a concentration of wealth relative to other US citizens. I like it that way. Would you expect me to say otherwise? Note that doesn't mean I support all the policies of the US; I certainly don't. But from a personal standpoint and for raising a family, there's no place I'd rather be. And there's nothing wrong with saying that. If you define "extreme nationalism" as choosing to live in a nice suburb in a wealthy country rather than in a yurt in the outskirts of Ulan Bator then I guess you're right, I am an extreme nationalist.
I'll tell you what. If we ever become dissatisfied with how W3C is running things we'll go start our own organization. That would be a more apt analogy than your weak reference to the heritage of Berners-Lee (or Cailliau, whichever you meant).
Football fails as an analogy. It would work if the US also wanted to run all intranets that used the same protocols as the Internet.
Look at it this way. The English invent football and they build a grand football stadium. The football games are revolutionary and soon everyone wants to field a football team. The English accomodate all these teams and matches between nations are held in the grand English football stadium. After years of these matches the nations of the world decide the rules committe should be made up of more than just the English. England says, "No, we built the stadium and invented the game. You are welcome to create derivate rules and build your own stadiums. If you want to play in our stadium then you have to play by our rules." That seems closer to what I was trying to say. Think IRL.
Dear citizen of Earth,
Thank you for your grand link pasting efforts. However, this is not about nationalism. Being a nation built on immigration we recognize, value, and sometimes improve upon contributions from the world over. The problem with your argument is the US isn't complaining about anything you listed. I'm not aware of anyone complaining that China invented paper money, or China controls the production of paper money. See, I'm not even sure how that fits. We're not complaining about our republican (note: lowercase r) form of government. The closest you come to something that fits the discussion is the world wide web, which is governed by W3C. I'm not aware of any complaints about that, are you?
I'm not saying "US is #1" or "world is teh sux0r!". My point is that the US made the investment in money, time, knowledge, material. We did not send out armies of technicians to secretly wire your countries with network cable. I'm pretty sure you guys said, "Hey, look what they built. That's pretty cool. Let's hook up to it." An alternate scenario has instead, "Hey, look what they built. That's pretty cool. I'm not comfortable with the US governance of this network though. Fortunately the protocol is open and well documented. Let's get build our own similar network, but instead it will be governed by the all countries. If we need to we can bridge to the US network later."
So you see, it could have gone differently but you didn't choose that path. Wishing you had now is sour grapes.
Warmest regards,
A US Citizen
Isolationist view? Not at all. This has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with freedom to choose one's course of action. Growing up in the US I learned I have choices. I chose what to study in school, I chose what job to take, and I'm currently choosing what new job to change to. I am free to choose what clothes I wear and I'm even free to make this decision based on where the clothes are made. I don't have to use Windows, but I do. I have access to over 100 TV channels but I only watch the programming I want to watch.
This is why I don't understand why you're upset that you get US programming. Assuming you're Christopher Burke, the registrant of craznar.com, you live in Australia. I'm not up on Australian law but I'm pretty sure I would have heard if there was a law requiring you to watch US programming. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If it's on your TV it's there probably because someone thinks they can make money off of showing it. If you have something like public access TV (as is required here in the US), you are free to create your own entertainment and broadcast it. And ironically, thanks to the Internet, you can probably find, download, and distribute the programming you value.
So, Christopher, don't resort to name calling and rhetoric. Take your passion, gather up other smart individuals, and start the ANZnet. The US doesn't own your cabling. Heck, with wireless you don't even need cabling. Hating the US won't get you anywhere...that's not constructive.
Dear other countries,
Did the US force you to connect to the Internet? Could you have instead banded together to make your own network? How the Internet works has long been public knowledge. Most of the people on the planet live outside the US, including many or most of the smartest engineers. In addition, most of the world's resources and assets (i.e. wealth) lie outside the US borders. Why not start the UNternet or EUternet or INDIAnet or NotUSnet and include the whole world except the US? I promise G. Bush will not invade your country with geeks carrying routers and spools of Cat5E cable.
The Internet is a global resource only because you voluntarily connected to it, knowing full well who controls it. You are welcome to our research and are free to improve upon what we've built, and you don't even have to invite us to be a part of it though it would be nice if you did. However, don't come to a picnic in my backyard and demand a say in how I landscape my yard.
Warmest regards,
A US Citizen
Wow...it looks like he hired the same web designer as the Time Cube guy.
Blu-Ray DVD players will ship with a Java VM. The interactive menus on Blu-Ray titles will be written in Java. I don't think MS is going to back a standard that puts a Java VM in everyone's living room.
Hi. I'm the submitter. The reason I wrote "shrill" is because when I read through his site the image came to mind of my wife berating me. If that's not shrill, I don't know what is (and I can safely write this non-anonymously because she's probably never even heard of slashdot.)
I wasn't referencing his point of view or that he isn't "going along to get along." I applaud his efforts at bringing this issue to light and I'm very happy the article was accepted for the front page. I'd hate for this to fall off the radar, especially since I live in MD. It's just that I found the tone of his writing a bit grating...
Right, then the chip would have value...something worth the premium cost the chip demands. If there aren't enough benefits to overcome the cost, well, then you're in that area where you have one just to have one.
The "almighty buck" won't shuffle it aside...people will. If the processor is not cost-effective then it won't catch on. However, the processor may become the SUV of chips. It may not be the most cost-effective solution but a purchaser may feel it helps him compensate for his undersized penis.
You know, when I started writing this post that's honestly not where I was going. I was going to make some point about how marketing may overcome the possible lack of value of the chip (a la VHS vs Beta) but then the post just headed south...
I'm sure it's not either. In fact, it was mentioned in the article.
These last two may seem uncomfortably low for your thumb until you turn the controller 90 degrees and it becomes just like an old 8-bit NES joypad, with the D-pad under your left thumb and "a" and "b" under your right. (Don't forget-Nintendo has promised downloadable versions of their classic games for the Revolution's "Virtual Console.")
You didn't read the article, did you? For shame...
In the future I'm describing, J&J purchased C-P.
Oooh! Headshot! Didn't see that coming, did you? Didn't think so, pedant. w00t!
p.s. I didn't post any web sites. I posted a *link* to a web site.
Yes! Multi-kill! En fuego tonight, baby!
Off topic...
I'll bite...what's your story, ex-con? What's your crime, how were you reformed?
"I use Q-Tip brand cotton swabs by Johnson and Johnson because they dig out 34% more earwax* than store brand swabs. My game has improved since switching to Q-Tips as I can now more clearly hear the CTs sneaking up to rescue the hosties."
"Ever since we equipped our BF2 Medics with Band-aid brand bandages from Johnson and Johnson, our team recovers more quickly compared to when he would just lick the wounds."
* - Q-tips should only be used in the outer ear to prevent impaction of wax or damage to the eardrum.
In researching this post I learned that Q-tips were originally called "Baby Gays". It's true! Check for yourself...
The Hurricane Research Division of the Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory has a section of their FAQ dedicated to "Tropical cyclone modification and myths".
As for the submitter's ideas, well, I don't think NOAA will be sending him the Segway he asks for on his home page. Take his "plowing" idea. Please. (Thanks, I'll be here all week) I haven't done the math but I'd think that towing a device a half mile wide that extends several feet below the surface of the water would slow a submarine more than 10 mph. But let's say you had an army, er, navy of submarines to plow up a square 465 miles on a side over a month. The mixing wouldn't last that long, and such an area is miniscule compared to the area of tropical cyclone formation.
The sprinkler idea has problems on many fronts. Even if you could deploy hundreds of such sprinklers the amount of water brought up would not effectively cool the surface. The cooler water would be rapidly warmed by the sun.
The iceberg idea is dealt with in the FAQ linked above. He sure seems to have a thing for submarines though. Submarines are probably the worst choice craft to accomplish his scheme. They're not designed for surface travel. Better to use surface craft for all the towing (plows, sprinklers, icebergs) required.
And yes, I am a meteorologist, though not a tropical meteorologist, and none of these answers required meteorological answers. Kudos to the submitter on getting his home page posted on Slashdot!
It took a while but I finally found a picture of it. It doesn't look too bad, and actually does look eco-friendly.
I knew a better link was sure to be found. And dammit, now I'm hungry...
TS/SCI, full poly:
Senior: $100,000+
Recent grads (within 3 years): $55,000-$80,000
One exception: I know a guy, just turned 23 this year, joined a company at $92k. His benefits are on the light side though.
Some interesting benefits/perks I've seen:
How many times have you read here on slashdot, "I stay with Windows because of the games." I think Windows is safe for the moment. Look at the system requirements for "Mindrover" (for which a random plug was on the screen when I was checking out the contest image":
Linux Kernel 2.2.x or later
GNU C Libraries (glibc) 2.1.x
XFree86 Release 3.3.5
200 MHz x86 Processor (300 MHz or better is recommended)
3D graphics accelerator with OpenGL? drivers 32 MB RAM
OSS compatible sound card
70 MB free hard disk space
4x CD-ROM drive
"Ok, Mom, now what version of glibc do you have? 2.0.9? Damn you, I told you to update that! I suppose you're still running kernel 2.1.5 too. I can't even believe we're related. By the way, can I bring my laundry over?"
The marketing team came up with the promotion without telling the developers. Now the developers are frantically writing the game as the pixels are revealed. Will the evil tactics of the marketeers plaster the developers with the "vaporware" label? Will the l33t coding skills of the developers make them rich beyond their wildest dreams, allowing them to spin off into their own company and leave the marketeers behind?
Oh wait, this is for Linux. They won't get rich...one guy will buy the game and everyone else will get the torrent of it.
Because business arrangements typically are more profitable than releasing software under the GPL, even if you sell support agreements.
Non-approved? Just a few weeks ago a memo came down from on high (on the government side) allowing open source software in without the rigorous process previously required (the formal request, the security study, the approval by the government security official). I hadn't heard about it until I received an e-mail basically stating, "In accordance with (whatever the memo number is) allowing open source software to bypass the introduction process, you'll find dom4j located..." and the address of an internal anonymous ftp site. I had been working dom4j for months, and actually had given up on it and even changed companies since I requested it. At the ftp site was all the open source stuff everyone had requested.
Now, putting it into a production environment (vs our local development systems) is a different story. The system as a whole will still go through the multi-level approval process.
As for keyloggers, who cares? Where is the data going to go? The system is not connected to the Internet. It's quite isolated.
Maybe he offers tech support?