--it doesn't matter, it's just my opinion and I honestly don't post thinking of what my "karma" might be. It is what it is, I do not consciously flame or troll, but I WILL post an opinion, even if it goes against some sort of common meme. Frankly, I think they should do away with karma and have just two categories, acceptable to post and read, or unacceptable and should be banned and deleted, and let the paid-for editors do it, that's their ultimate job. I used to volunteer mod a few large forums with thousands of users, we let anything go unless it was gross pornographic and/or obvious spam or threatening/illegal,etc, and those we just deleted and banned the IP. Common sense netiquette should bre sufficient you would think. Not perfect, but who cares, this point system is just weird. At first I thought it was a good idea but not now after seeing it in action for a couple of years.
I also think they could cut down on the *need* for moderations by not allowing AC and by requiring an actual ISP email addy for registration purposes. THAT works pretty well for forums that have adopted it.
Will be a decent cellphone that is as easy to use most likely. Media players and cell phones and PDAs are all merging eventually, you can see it coming. I will predict that.
And frankly, hundreds of dollars for just a portable tiny media player is a stretch for a lot of people. I guess some folks can afford them but really, it's too expensive, and I am just too old to get sucked into consumer "fad" hype anymore. If you can get a right decent desktop for 400$, there's no rational reason some small media thingamajig should cost the same, none, other than there's a sucker born every minute and people seem to love to be exploited. It's a collection of asian electronic parts, which are today *cheap*, to the point of throw away cheap.
I know they sell a lot of them at that gross inflated price, I won't dispute that or argue marketing,that stuff is what it is, it's reality, but that just proves (to me anyway) a lot of people have more money (now) than common sense, and a pretty skewed sense of priorities. I might get one once they have been out long enough so that they are in the used market at like 20 dollars or something, same with a PDA. Or, like I said, wait until a cell phone at a reasonable price has a lot more features to it.
Guess I am just getting cranky and cynical, but to me enoughs enough on this OMG GOTTAHAVEIT deal with over priced gadgets. I'm a geek and I like gadgets, I have just cut way down past few years because it's gotten out of control. I have a box full of cxellphones, all of them work, it costs more money to rerplace the battery than it does to get a new phone. Sucks. Same with a few laptops I got. sucks. I have some portable radio/cassette thingees, they still work fine and take cheap batteries, and paid for them years ago, done. I am NOT going to listen to 10,000 songs in one day, and it's just not that hard to have a few tapes handy. I dfon't go to work to watch some media movie or to play games, so don't need those sorts of features. OTA radio still has tunes and talk, if you have a decent one and can actually learn to tune in channels better.
I used to be a serious mac fanboy, but really, they got enough of my loot, time to move on. I used to be able to justify their high prices when the only rational competition was having to run early windows,so I paid it, but now, nope,they switched to a unixy system and kept the same high prices on their boxes, refuse to drop prices down to any entry level that is comparable with anyone else, their computers are way too expensive and no way would I pay that 400 buck price for some teeny music player, I got real adult grownup things that need to be paid for first.
Not trying to flame anyone for their selections, but just think on it, that much money for THAT? If people got that sort of spare change, then I'd like to see less whining about the economy, they must be better off than 95% of the humans I know, who wouldn't even consider owning something like an ipod at that pricing level.
To each their own I guess, just this thread needed a contrarian viewpoint on the whole phenomenon.
He rocks, that's some amazing funny stuff he comes up with. It's where I got my meatspace nickname zog and my various nethandles based on that way back when. Went to a big outdoor halloween party as zog the intellectual caveman, was a tossup between zog or thag. My fav was zog chisels out this ferrari made out of stone, then goes "drat, now I have to invent the wheel!". Another one, all these cave dudes are sitting around a fire, they have bloody pieces of meat in their hands, holding them over the fire to cook them. Much grimacing in pain whatnot. zog has his on a stick, they all point and go "Look what zog do!". heh heh heh caveman nerd heh heh heh
Once went to a natural history museum in dayton ohio, they were running a gary larson festival, had quite a few of his original comic drawings interspersed with the displays, it was neat. I think it was part of a tour. Too bad GL won't let his comics be posted online, or rather, last I checked he didn't allow it.
...just a simple PDA tray you clip your PDA or notebook to and that is designed to clip to generic shopping cart handles? Some sort of cheap aftermarket acessory.
They might exist already for that matter, I've never looked.
For him it did. He is part of the ever growing business tactic of "declining and falling" the US programmer. He outsourced most of his development work for his company to bangalore, injuh quite a long time ago.
As long as companies get tax breaks to outsource, whether it's a blue collar widget or one of ya'alls "widgets", they will do it. As long as people refuse to notice that their cost of living doesn't go away and the cost of trinkets they "save" on doesn't equate or surpass those still standard costs, you will see it get *suckier*. it is the most basic of economics, absuredly simple to see. People have refused, they clung desparately to their delusions that they would 1.2.3 PROFIT, that they missed the forest for the trees it appears. That's reality, people traded the globalists magic beans of new cheap shiny trinkets for the decent work and still affordable US made stuff cow, because they got sold the "greed thing",it got dangled out and they took the bait, bit dowen hard, ran with it the economy is "reeling" with the sing of outflowing jobs and cash. but, this is called a 'strong economy dag nabbit!"
Ha! About the most successful human congame ever invented. It never fails, offer people a lot of something for apparently nothing, they will swap. The trick is to convince them that what they have is worthless, in this case, a huge range of middle class still useful jobs, millions of them. That was the swap dangled out, cheaper goods at the stores in exchange for giving up your job and learning something new or..whatever, that part they left out too. Poly tickshunbs are always big on the 'I will create new jobs!', but when you hold them down they got no answers other than saying those words over and over again.
You can't have it both ways, either buy US in all your business dealings, your day to day life, or suck it up and suffer when your job goes buh bye. Be content to have high cost of living in exchange for cheaper consumer goods. You are on your own if you have no money though, then it becomes tough luck, too bad.
Oh? It's too late for that, you can't buy US and keep the loot recirculating internally where it magnifies over and over again building middle class society? You say most everything is built overseas now?
Ya, I noticed that stuff, noticed it 25 years ago and wrote and warned against it then. Told white collars they would be next, about zee-ro believed it because they are "too special" and "no one" can do what they do and etc, etc. Why, stock trading would replace work! I heard that, too, a lot. americans were going to be the worlds managers, white collar only, all the jobs secure..because of.....they never explained that part. or they mumble the magic word "capitalism" like saying that over and over will somehow do the trick. And with computers, all we need are bits and bytes, nothing tangible is needed for existence! It's worth billions, and you can just type up reality!
For some reason, according to them folks, what I was told, billions of people all over the planet were just going to shuffle around and go "yass massah" and do our bidding, no one would need to work beyond "management" or maybe "sales". IT was just gonna be the new interest, sort of a national hobby we could do on the side to get even richer, because it was all going to be from "investing" somehow, back to "stocks". You see, no one needs to work, just them "other folks" who live way over yonder someplace, they are supposed to be doing all the work, and you just get a check, a BIG one!
That was the theory
It has been embarassing to me to watch it happen.
humph, but hey,cheer up! You can always stop by walmart and pick up some cheap trinkets with your... oh ya, no check..sorry dude....well the government has some plans to "help you out" of your dilemma as you re-retrain for the future! sorry about that college degree, here, try this method.........
Now, step into this nice room here and we'll show you.....
"MOM, what's for DINNER!1?!"
"Here kids, have a nice bowl of nutritious soylent green stew, with some nice recycled cardboard bread and sludge butter"
I don't have cable or satellite, so will admit to not seeing either show before to my recollection.
With that said, I have read the transcript, and..well.... these people are professional whats? They all make these huge salaries for what? If ever there were some jobs that needed outsourcing.....I certainly wouldn't pay cash money to view this, it reinforces my observations on cable many moons ago when I had it then dropped it, you go from a few medium crappy channels and shows to a hundred (or more now I guess) medium crappy channels and shows. It read like nascar and world champeen rasslin for people who like to put down real nascar and world champeen rasslin, pot calling the kettle black. Is this the true state of excellence now in those genres of political journalism and political comedy?
We are DOOOOOOMED!
I read nothing journalistic or nothing funny in the piece, unless mildly slangish juvenile insults is considered the height of funniness now.
I've read better journalistic insight and much funnier stuff right here on slashdot, and that is on hardware review pieces at -1.
Really, all these "mistakes"? Occams razor might say, yes, just a series of coincidental major oversights and general buffoonery, but another razor viewpoint might be *sabotage*, make it look accidental, and have as the target result the accumulation of failures leading to NASA going away to any signifigance.
OK, given that, who stands to gain the most from sabotage?
Best guess then would be the military, and get "space" regulated to pure blackops, pure "classified" nature except at the public joke level.
yes, I know, pure speculation, it's just...man! That's a LOT of screwups! I *still* am smelling rats now, herds of them.
Thanks for the paste, BTW, this is just generic commentary on this now that I have read it...something about this doesn't add up. You can get 3gs in a cheap-ass centrifuge, and you would think that testing it that way might have occurred to someone there, I thought about the description for 2 seconds max before that occurred, and 1.9 of those seconds was wasted on "WTF, what were they smoking????" I mean, the rentry brakes main sensor? No real world testing, zillion buck budget, PhDs hanging around the place, bosses up the wazoo, press release guys, interns, students, various hangers on and about with various degrees and varied IQs and a lot of butts on the line and NO ONE thought of this?
uh huh, sure, ohhhh yaaaaa, backwards, uh huh, yaaaaaa, that's the ticket, we installed it backwards!
Jon Lovitz would be embarassed on that one.
I don't believe the official explanation based on this. It is illogical and goes against the odds tremendously. I call shenaningans. No idea what's really up, but this is BS. If it's TRUE, the whole kit and kaboodle need to be fired, out, no more tax money and government contracts. Let them design tricycles or wagons or something. Of course, I don't think that happened either, so the real explanation is something else.
Yes, it is my nature to be suspicious, always been that way. This is like the 9-11 intel "failure" they keep pushing, fantasy land.
work on the features first, I can still install from source. Send a link to it to Dag or someone like that who specialise in building workable RPMs.
I can't code but I sure appreciate all the effort that you and the thousands of other developers do to give everyone better software. I keep hoping that someday there will be a general linux distro that is reasonable in cost, and also dedicates a small percentage to the developers for every included app in the package. Even though it would still be "free" in the normal gpl sense, I bet a lot more people would like to support such a distro with that sort of "support back to the developers" option.
...the rest of the thread. Every place it's been tried causes massive ancilliary interference, and it's expensive and clunky. It's a tech that doesn't work very well, and also causes problems.
It's anti-smart, it's pro-stupid. It is not a "last mile solution", it's an "all the miles problem generator".
I live rural, would love to have some sort of broadband option, but this scheme ain't it. I also enjoy my radios, and yes, they are quite valuable, even if most folks don't realise what the value of having a truly independent of any big corporation two way communications system really is. It's a commercial scam and I suspect some high level bribes have been paid in order to get it approved, because it certainly didn't come about from any sane engineering advantages.
Here's a clue, I live in the south, the southern company(locally georgia power) does the bulk of everyones electrical delivery. Do you realise what THEY use for communications? Radios, they have their own relay networks setup, and last I looked you could get a subscription from them for two way radio and integrated telephony, it's called Southern Linc, and it appears from that page I just relooked at they are looking for developers to help them expand what sort of features they can provide, including mobile internet, which could be a precursor to a lot more "last mile" solutions. The reason WHY they do this is because they KNOW that THEIR powerlines are *NOT* a good way to stay connected.
..where in the Constitution are the geographical descriptions of what constitute "free speech zones" like "law" enforcement uses today. I seem to have missed that clause. I was under the obviously erroneous opinion that the "free speech" zone was the area inside the borders of the USA, but according to the news, it's not, it's wherever millionaires who give orders to mercenaries say these zones are, other places, they are not.
That's one example, there are many more out there.
Todays "law enforcement" is lowercase l in the "law" part (that is the nice theory part) and capital E in the "Enforcement" part, which is the stark reality of the situation..
We have elite status quo maintainers, we haven't had "law enforcement" for many moons now.
Looks good! Solves the "google won't work on linux or with firefox" problem already mentioned, and it doesn't come from teh bigco organization!
Personally, I'm getting a little wary of google trying to be all things for the net and computers. Seems like we have seen that before someplace....
Hope someone can help you with the RPMS, got the new fedora out next month, I'll try it then. I usually do a full clean install every new distro version, don't really save much in the way of data files, but I will tryout your proggie then!
--those are the two main types now. Paleocons (I am one basically) are the old traditional conservatives, fiscally conservative, non interventionist, smaller government and so on. They believe in a fair deal, not a new deal or a raw deal. They were represented by say the old goldwater wing, and then there was the rockefeller wing, or the "eastern establishment" or "limousine liberal" conservatives, who are now known as neocons. Neocons are globalists, interventionists, proponents of larger government,israel-firsters, corporate apologists, and so on. They really aren't conservative, just stayed in the R party, and took it over during some pretty intense inter party warfare in the 60-68 time frame. They sabotaged their own candidate in 64 on purpose. They are global totalitarian socialists actually, if you look really close at their agendas and think tanks, just they like to be the "bosses" about things and give a lot more credence and power to corporations than they do to private people. Socialism for corporations I gue4ss comes close. Money and power and profit over traditional nationalism or conservatism, just keep the name. It gets confusing. They are anti democratic in that sense, really closer to a feudalistic bent, they think they are appointed or something to "lead" because of their birthrights and level of income, etc. they "know better". I call them technofeudalists, because it fits the best. Paleos just want to be left alone, and are much closer to the capital L party by nature in any reasonable comparison. They differ from the L party in mostly being prolife, anti illegal unlimited immigration, and are in favor of a bit more protectionism in trade policies, they usually aren't for what is called "free" trade.
There are a very few paleocons left in upper government circles, most of them can be found in what is called the "liberty lobby".
This is a *rough* outline and description but it's close enough for posting purposes.
It effects everyone, just people have different pain thresholds. Some folks it's just a job loss, other people it can be more...or less before they will go against any level of ethics and morality they might think they have. And that's all it is, a pre conceived notion of what you would do or not do. People forced to extremes (the donner party), or people who *think* they've been forced to an extreme(my lai massacre, or outright mass hedonistic greed like with various enronesque scams) are capable of anything. Others, all it takes is "permission", witness what happens in war with most people. People turn from day to day regular to acting on raw emotion and opportunity, they can and will do things they wouldn't normally do, either by necessity or by coercion or by faking themselves out that what they are doing is OK "this time" because an authority figure gave them permission by issuing an order or by alluding to an order with a wink wink. And that is both on the military and civilian sides when I mention war, ask any soldiers how many hookers there are in a combat zone, and how many of them partake. Then ask the soldiers later on when they are respectable dads back in the world how they feel about THEIR 10 or 12 year old daughters banging soldiers for money because they are desparate. Those are extremes, but very common. Of course, you won't hear them bragging on it on the internet much, that's something only "the other side" does...they will ride that boat swiftly to the other side of the river de-nile, as the parameters have changed back. It just happens, always has really.
When it comes to jobs,though, in a normal society, it starts to get murky, some people have an obvious very low pain threshold on what they consider to be employment that they can or will do. For some people not being able to keep up the mortgage and expensive car and CC bills is "enough" for them to consider most any employment, no matter how dubious it is, whereas others will suck it up and sell off the big house and new car and take whatever job and housing they can find legitimately without compromising themselves, but only if the pain threshold for them is not yet reached, and that's the really important part.
It's the nature of humans, and that nature is..we have no accurate yardstick, because all pain thresholds make up the gestalt of humaness. Bad is a reflection of current local mores, given a reasonably comfortable existence, at that exact time and space. Start to mess with that, change those parameters, what average society is used to, and it can get real bad,and really quickly, as I will attest being through a few major riots before. "Normal" society and averagely held ethics and standards to pure predatory anarchy in 5 minutes.
It doesn't take much at all to strip away the excrutiatingly thin veneer of so called "civilization" and what passes for acceptable behavior.
I still run a quadra (mac 7.5) and a 280c powerbook (7.0) that have netscape 2 on them*. But I have since added iCab, which is a much better browser on those old 68k machines. I also have a couple of IIcis I think they are, but been so long since I booted them I forget what's on them now, but I know they surfed when I was using them. I even used to get decent real audio on the quadra back when that app was fairly new, nowadays though no one streams any real audio 2 I think it was. And IRC and FTP and gopher always worked fine.
*once in awhile, they are old machines I gave to my GF after I cleaned them up and tweaked them a scosh. The quadra with 64 megs ram is quite a decent surfer really as long as the pages aren't too javaised or scripted to timbuktu. I even ran it as a server for a while using quid pro quo server software. The 280c PB I use as a "storm" computer when the power goes out, all I have for it is a car batt adapter so I run it off an old truck battery with it's built in 19.2 modem. it works fine for that purpose the few times a year I have to.
I *like* hanging on to my nostalgia, I still have my 512k and it still boots! The floppy based OS still works! Well, last time I tried it, I admit it's about 9 months now since the last time.
...some of the plans are to chip the military and police first. Since they are the ones who will be doing the enforcing of any chipping mandates, they will be able to rationalise it to any protesters that "they got the chip, now you need to get it".
Special forces allegedly have this already in some situations (this is hearsay, I have no proof), and there's been more than a few articles I have read about proposals for the police getting it in their hands or wrists to have it tied to smart chips inside their service guns, so only they can fire them. some gun control advocates want this for all firearms and owners in fact, the tech already exists.
but ya, incrementalism will make this happen. Concerned parents wanting their kids chipped in case of kidnapping or terrorism. Prisoners chipped for "security and safety and monitoring" and etc. Patients chipped like in this article. nthose spanish nightclub patrons who got the chip earlier this year for VIP status inside the club. blah blah blah, eventually everyone will fall into a chippable category for some reason or another.
Once enough various random subgroups have it, then it will be almost easy for them to get everyone to do it. There's a variety of possible scenarios I can see where it might occur.
Slippery slope, there's always good and bad in any new technology, but DANG if various governments and other no goodniks always seem to have the uncanny ability to extract "bad" from any situation. That's the only thing ALL governments down through history eventually have in common-the capacity and eventual bent for, well...evil.
Humanity evolves, groupings of humans known as governments always de-evolve.
...seems like.. I don't know but seems like...anyone who wanted to down one of these things could use a two stage sort of weapon. Use a similar radio controlled mini blimp to get up near to the target big blimp, and once nearby could launch any old cheap normal rocket(s) at it, at least to disable the propulsion plant or sensor pods. There's no need to down the thing, just make it ineffective.
that's one way, another would be to try and hack any of the control or surveillence telemetry.
another way, use a ground based laser to try and blind it
another way, take out the ground control HQ
alternative, compromise (social engineering, coerced or bribed or both) a key operator in the project
...to what long duration voyage submariners go through. 500 days is a long time though, I don't think any totally submerged and all sealed up submarine voyage has lasted that long, I think something like 6 weeks is more normal.(could be wrong on that, any knowledgeable folks please correct me) I am sure there are tons of scientific studies already about the physiological and psychological impacts of long term close quarters living, where you can't just "get out" and all your existence is self contained, more or less. The subs though can make their own fresh water and O2, so that makes it easier in many ways. Also no weightlessness to contend with. But....similar.
...the elections by the globalist elite, you know, the folks who think most of humanity consists of "useless eaters". It REALLY is that simple. People are hip enough to see if you have a one party state that it's a dictatorship. With two parties it gets harder to see and it's easier for folks to stay in comfortable denial about it, and computerised voting is a great way to KEEP it a two for one party sham election.
We've always had election fraud to some degree, but perots and naders and buchanans campaigns scared the socks off of the elite globalist goons, they needed a way to outright insure that the international bankers/corporate party candidate always won, in ANY race if that is what it took. The internet has started to break the back of the controlled propoganda press, people CAN find out there are other viewpoints and other candidates, so combining scam e voting with controlling the "debates" and who gets on the ballot and with gerrymandering, etc, etc, they can be sure to always get their puppet doofus in no matter what else happens.
You can go back and research this, it's origins. Several good whistleblowers out there were discovering the higher level truth of the tallies 20 years ago, this newest dodge is just an extension of what they have been doing since then.
Last time I voted with a diebold machine I checked the results later, MY vote was never registered in the official tally near as I could ascertain, and with no way to check it, you have no case to prosecute. They can hack these machines in advance, or on the fly during the election, with modems or whatever, inserted cards. They've been busted already, yet we still have them. That should be enough of a clue right there.
Here's an alternative that fits your criteria and budget (top end), a 4x4 very off-road dual electric engine "golf" cart. It's more for hunting or farm chores, but it appears to have serious powah. Looks nifty actually, found it on google readily. Carries extra passengers and gear, so it is more practical than the centaur concept vehicle, IMO.
All I got now is an old lawn buggy with no mower on it, cost me 100 clams even, runs great, and even when I get it stuck I just yank it out myself. I tote a small wagon trailer with it and carry a lot of tools around the complex where I work. Useful when you don't want to firte up some huge tractor or truck for doing small jobs and just tooling through the woods. I *want* to make it a gas/electric hybrid vehilce, a work vehicle plus self propelled generator, but haven't scrounged the necessary electric motors and stuff yet. It's a zero additional dollars project I have in mind.
seems similar to way back when car companies wanted to try and ban aftermarket parts that would fit their cars.
These various EULAS and IP laws need some class action lawsuits to straighten that IP "it's a product and we sell it, no lease it, we have patents lookout... no it's not a product and no warranty" dichotomy. Along with "*own* it today on DVD" commercials.
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--it doesn't matter, it's just my opinion and I honestly don't post thinking of what my "karma" might be. It is what it is, I do not consciously flame or troll, but I WILL post an opinion, even if it goes against some sort of common meme. Frankly, I think they should do away with karma and have just two categories, acceptable to post and read, or unacceptable and should be banned and deleted, and let the paid-for editors do it, that's their ultimate job. I used to volunteer mod a few large forums with thousands of users, we let anything go unless it was gross pornographic and/or obvious spam or threatening/illegal,etc, and those we just deleted and banned the IP. Common sense netiquette should bre sufficient you would think. Not perfect, but who cares, this point system is just weird. At first I thought it was a good idea but not now after seeing it in action for a couple of years.
I also think they could cut down on the *need* for moderations by not allowing AC and by requiring an actual ISP email addy for registration purposes. THAT works pretty well for forums that have adopted it.
Will be a decent cellphone that is as easy to use most likely. Media players and cell phones and PDAs are all merging eventually, you can see it coming. I will predict that.
And frankly, hundreds of dollars for just a portable tiny media player is a stretch for a lot of people. I guess some folks can afford them but really, it's too expensive, and I am just too old to get sucked into consumer "fad" hype anymore. If you can get a right decent desktop for 400$, there's no rational reason some small media thingamajig should cost the same, none, other than there's a sucker born every minute and people seem to love to be exploited. It's a collection of asian electronic parts, which are today *cheap*, to the point of throw away cheap.
I know they sell a lot of them at that gross inflated price, I won't dispute that or argue marketing,that stuff is what it is, it's reality, but that just proves (to me anyway) a lot of people have more money (now) than common sense, and a pretty skewed sense of priorities. I might get one once they have been out long enough so that they are in the used market at like 20 dollars or something, same with a PDA. Or, like I said, wait until a cell phone at a reasonable price has a lot more features to it.
Guess I am just getting cranky and cynical, but to me enoughs enough on this OMG GOTTAHAVEIT deal with over priced gadgets. I'm a geek and I like gadgets, I have just cut way down past few years because it's gotten out of control. I have a box full of cxellphones, all of them work, it costs more money to rerplace the battery than it does to get a new phone. Sucks. Same with a few laptops I got. sucks. I have some portable radio/cassette thingees, they still work fine and take cheap batteries, and paid for them years ago, done. I am NOT going to listen to 10,000 songs in one day, and it's just not that hard to have a few tapes handy. I dfon't go to work to watch some media movie or to play games, so don't need those sorts of features. OTA radio still has tunes and talk, if you have a decent one and can actually learn to tune in channels better.
I used to be a serious mac fanboy, but really, they got enough of my loot, time to move on. I used to be able to justify their high prices when the only rational competition was having to run early windows,so I paid it, but now, nope,they switched to a unixy system and kept the same high prices on their boxes, refuse to drop prices down to any entry level that is comparable with anyone else, their computers are way too expensive and no way would I pay that 400 buck price for some teeny music player, I got real adult grownup things that need to be paid for first.
Not trying to flame anyone for their selections, but just think on it, that much money for THAT? If people got that sort of spare change, then I'd like to see less whining about the economy, they must be better off than 95% of the humans I know, who wouldn't even consider owning something like an ipod at that pricing level.
To each their own I guess, just this thread needed a contrarian viewpoint on the whole phenomenon.
He rocks, that's some amazing funny stuff he comes up with. It's where I got my meatspace nickname zog and my various nethandles based on that way back when. Went to a big outdoor halloween party as zog the intellectual caveman, was a tossup between zog or thag. My fav was zog chisels out this ferrari made out of stone, then goes "drat, now I have to invent the wheel!". Another one, all these cave dudes are sitting around a fire, they have bloody pieces of meat in their hands, holding them over the fire to cook them. Much grimacing in pain whatnot. zog has his on a stick, they all point and go "Look what zog do!". heh heh heh caveman nerd heh heh heh
Once went to a natural history museum in dayton ohio, they were running a gary larson festival, had quite a few of his original comic drawings interspersed with the displays, it was neat. I think it was part of a tour. Too bad GL won't let his comics be posted online, or rather, last I checked he didn't allow it.
...just a simple PDA tray you clip your PDA or notebook to and that is designed to clip to generic shopping cart handles? Some sort of cheap aftermarket acessory.
They might exist already for that matter, I've never looked.
For him it did. He is part of the ever growing business tactic of "declining and falling" the US programmer. He outsourced most of his development work for his company to bangalore, injuh quite a long time ago.
As long as companies get tax breaks to outsource, whether it's a blue collar widget or one of ya'alls "widgets", they will do it. As long as people refuse to notice that their cost of living doesn't go away and the cost of trinkets they "save" on doesn't equate or surpass those still standard costs, you will see it get *suckier*. it is the most basic of economics, absuredly simple to see. People have refused, they clung desparately to their delusions that they would 1.2.3 PROFIT, that they missed the forest for the trees it appears. That's reality, people traded the globalists magic beans of new cheap shiny trinkets for the decent work and still affordable US made stuff cow, because they got sold the "greed thing",it got dangled out and they took the bait, bit dowen hard, ran with it the economy is "reeling" with the sing of outflowing jobs and cash. but, this is called a 'strong economy dag nabbit!"
Ha! About the most successful human congame ever invented. It never fails, offer people a lot of something for apparently nothing, they will swap. The trick is to convince them that what they have is worthless, in this case, a huge range of middle class still useful jobs, millions of them. That was the swap dangled out, cheaper goods at the stores in exchange for giving up your job and learning something new or..whatever, that part they left out too. Poly tickshunbs are always big on the 'I will create new jobs!', but when you hold them down they got no answers other than saying those words over and over again.
You can't have it both ways, either buy US in all your business dealings, your day to day life, or suck it up and suffer when your job goes buh bye. Be content to have high cost of living in exchange for cheaper consumer goods. You are on your own if you have no money though, then it becomes tough luck, too bad.
Oh? It's too late for that, you can't buy US and keep the loot recirculating internally where it magnifies over and over again building middle class society? You say most everything is built overseas now?
Ya, I noticed that stuff, noticed it 25 years ago and wrote and warned against it then. Told white collars they would be next, about zee-ro believed it because they are "too special" and "no one" can do what they do and etc, etc. Why, stock trading would replace work! I heard that, too, a lot. americans were going to be the worlds managers, white collar only, all the jobs secure..because of.....they never explained that part. or they mumble the magic word "capitalism" like saying that over and over will somehow do the trick. And with computers, all we need are bits and bytes, nothing tangible is needed for existence! It's worth billions, and you can just type up reality!
For some reason, according to them folks, what I was told, billions of people all over the planet were just going to shuffle around and go "yass massah" and do our bidding, no one would need to work beyond "management" or maybe "sales". IT was just gonna be the new interest, sort of a national hobby we could do on the side to get even richer, because it was all going to be from "investing" somehow, back to "stocks". You see, no one needs to work, just them "other folks" who live way over yonder someplace, they are supposed to be doing all the work, and you just get a check, a BIG one!
That was the theory
It has been embarassing to me to watch it happen.
humph, but hey,cheer up! You can always stop by walmart and pick up some cheap trinkets with your... oh ya, no check..sorry dude....well the government has some plans to "help you out" of your dilemma as you re-retrain for the future! sorry about that college degree, here, try this method.........
Now, step into this nice room here and we'll show you.....
"MOM, what's for DINNER!1?!"
"Here kids, have a nice bowl of nutritious soylent green stew, with some nice recycled cardboard bread and sludge butter"
"YAAAAAA!"
I don't have cable or satellite, so will admit to not seeing either show before to my recollection.
With that said, I have read the transcript, and..well.... these people are professional whats? They all make these huge salaries for what? If ever there were some jobs that needed outsourcing.....I certainly wouldn't pay cash money to view this, it reinforces my observations on cable many moons ago when I had it then dropped it, you go from a few medium crappy channels and shows to a hundred (or more now I guess) medium crappy channels and shows. It read like nascar and world champeen rasslin for people who like to put down real nascar and world champeen rasslin, pot calling the kettle black. Is this the true state of excellence now in those genres of political journalism and political comedy?
We are DOOOOOOMED!
I read nothing journalistic or nothing funny in the piece, unless mildly slangish juvenile insults is considered the height of funniness now.
I've read better journalistic insight and much funnier stuff right here on slashdot, and that is on hardware review pieces at -1.
Pretty interesting, hadn't heard of those before.
Really, all these "mistakes"? Occams razor might say, yes, just a series of coincidental major oversights and general buffoonery, but another razor viewpoint might be *sabotage*, make it look accidental, and have as the target result the accumulation of failures leading to NASA going away to any signifigance.
OK, given that, who stands to gain the most from sabotage?
Best guess then would be the military, and get "space" regulated to pure blackops, pure "classified" nature except at the public joke level.
yes, I know, pure speculation, it's just...man! That's a LOT of screwups! I *still* am smelling rats now, herds of them.
Thanks for the paste, BTW, this is just generic commentary on this now that I have read it.
uh huh, sure, ohhhh yaaaaa, backwards, uh huh, yaaaaaa, that's the ticket, we installed it backwards!
Jon Lovitz would be embarassed on that one.
I don't believe the official explanation based on this. It is illogical and goes against the odds tremendously. I call shenaningans. No idea what's really up, but this is BS. If it's TRUE, the whole kit and kaboodle need to be fired, out, no more tax money and government contracts. Let them design tricycles or wagons or something. Of course, I don't think that happened either, so the real explanation is something else.
Yes, it is my nature to be suspicious, always been that way. This is like the 9-11 intel "failure" they keep pushing, fantasy land.
work on the features first, I can still install from source. Send a link to it to Dag or someone like that who specialise in building workable RPMs.
I can't code but I sure appreciate all the effort that you and the thousands of other developers do to give everyone better software. I keep hoping that someday there will be a general linux distro that is reasonable in cost, and also dedicates a small percentage to the developers for every included app in the package. Even though it would still be "free" in the normal gpl sense, I bet a lot more people would like to support such a distro with that sort of "support back to the developers" option.
...the rest of the thread. Every place it's been tried causes massive ancilliary interference, and it's expensive and clunky. It's a tech that doesn't work very well, and also causes problems.
It's anti-smart, it's pro-stupid. It is not a "last mile solution", it's an "all the miles problem generator".
I live rural, would love to have some sort of broadband option, but this scheme ain't it. I also enjoy my radios, and yes, they are quite valuable, even if most folks don't realise what the value of having a truly independent of any big corporation two way communications system really is. It's a commercial scam and I suspect some high level bribes have been paid in order to get it approved, because it certainly didn't come about from any sane engineering advantages.
Here's a clue, I live in the south, the southern company(locally georgia power) does the bulk of everyones electrical delivery. Do you realise what THEY use for communications? Radios, they have their own relay networks setup, and last I looked you could get a subscription from them for two way radio and integrated telephony, it's called Southern Linc, and it appears from that page I just relooked at they are looking for developers to help them expand what sort of features they can provide, including mobile internet, which could be a precursor to a lot more "last mile" solutions. The reason WHY they do this is because they KNOW that THEIR powerlines are *NOT* a good way to stay connected.
--you brought up an interestng point and something I'd like to see more research in, and that is using grids as passive electric generators.
I think we've been going about this backwards, we should be harvesting that electrical potential somehow.
..where in the Constitution are the geographical descriptions of what constitute "free speech zones" like "law" enforcement uses today. I seem to have missed that clause. I was under the obviously erroneous opinion that the "free speech" zone was the area inside the borders of the USA, but according to the news, it's not, it's wherever millionaires who give orders to mercenaries say these zones are, other places, they are not.
That's one example, there are many more out there.
Todays "law enforcement" is lowercase l in the "law" part (that is the nice theory part) and capital E in the "Enforcement" part, which is the stark reality of the situation..
We have elite status quo maintainers, we haven't had "law enforcement" for many moons now.
Looks good! Solves the "google won't work on linux or with firefox" problem already mentioned, and it doesn't come from teh bigco organization!
Personally, I'm getting a little wary of google trying to be all things for the net and computers. Seems like we have seen that before someplace....
Hope someone can help you with the RPMS, got the new fedora out next month, I'll try it then. I usually do a full clean install every new distro version, don't really save much in the way of data files, but I will tryout your proggie then!
--those are the two main types now. Paleocons (I am one basically) are the old traditional conservatives, fiscally conservative, non interventionist, smaller government and so on. They believe in a fair deal, not a new deal or a raw deal. They were represented by say the old goldwater wing, and then there was the rockefeller wing, or the "eastern establishment" or "limousine liberal" conservatives, who are now known as neocons. Neocons are globalists, interventionists, proponents of larger government,israel-firsters, corporate apologists, and so on. They really aren't conservative, just stayed in the R party, and took it over during some pretty intense inter party warfare in the 60-68 time frame. They sabotaged their own candidate in 64 on purpose. They are global totalitarian socialists actually, if you look really close at their agendas and think tanks, just they like to be the "bosses" about things and give a lot more credence and power to corporations than they do to private people. Socialism for corporations I gue4ss comes close. Money and power and profit over traditional nationalism or conservatism, just keep the name. It gets confusing. They are anti democratic in that sense, really closer to a feudalistic bent, they think they are appointed or something to "lead" because of their birthrights and level of income, etc. they "know better". I call them technofeudalists, because it fits the best. Paleos just want to be left alone, and are much closer to the capital L party by nature in any reasonable comparison. They differ from the L party in mostly being prolife, anti illegal unlimited immigration, and are in favor of a bit more protectionism in trade policies, they usually aren't for what is called "free" trade.
There are a very few paleocons left in upper government circles, most of them can be found in what is called the "liberty lobby".
This is a *rough* outline and description but it's close enough for posting purposes.
It effects everyone, just people have different pain thresholds. Some folks it's just a job loss, other people it can be more...or less before they will go against any level of ethics and morality they might think they have. And that's all it is, a pre conceived notion of what you would do or not do. People forced to extremes (the donner party), or people who *think* they've been forced to an extreme(my lai massacre, or outright mass hedonistic greed like with various enronesque scams) are capable of anything. Others, all it takes is "permission", witness what happens in war with most people. People turn from day to day regular to acting on raw emotion and opportunity, they can and will do things they wouldn't normally do, either by necessity or by coercion or by faking themselves out that what they are doing is OK "this time" because an authority figure gave them permission by issuing an order or by alluding to an order with a wink wink. And that is both on the military and civilian sides when I mention war, ask any soldiers how many hookers there are in a combat zone, and how many of them partake. Then ask the soldiers later on when they are respectable dads back in the world how they feel about THEIR 10 or 12 year old daughters banging soldiers for money because they are desparate. Those are extremes, but very common. Of course, you won't hear them bragging on it on the internet much, that's something only "the other side" does...they will ride that boat swiftly to the other side of the river de-nile, as the parameters have changed back. It just happens, always has really.
When it comes to jobs,though, in a normal society, it starts to get murky, some people have an obvious very low pain threshold on what they consider to be employment that they can or will do. For some people not being able to keep up the mortgage and expensive car and CC bills is "enough" for them to consider most any employment, no matter how dubious it is, whereas others will suck it up and sell off the big house and new car and take whatever job and housing they can find legitimately without compromising themselves, but only if the pain threshold for them is not yet reached, and that's the really important part.
It's the nature of humans, and that nature is..we have no accurate yardstick, because all pain thresholds make up the gestalt of humaness. Bad is a reflection of current local mores, given a reasonably comfortable existence, at that exact time and space. Start to mess with that, change those parameters, what average society is used to, and it can get real bad,and really quickly, as I will attest being through a few major riots before. "Normal" society and averagely held ethics and standards to pure predatory anarchy in 5 minutes.
It doesn't take much at all to strip away the excrutiatingly thin veneer of so called "civilization" and what passes for acceptable behavior.
I still run a quadra (mac 7.5) and a 280c powerbook (7.0) that have netscape 2 on them*. But I have since added iCab, which is a much better browser on those old 68k machines. I also have a couple of IIcis I think they are, but been so long since I booted them I forget what's on them now, but I know they surfed when I was using them. I even used to get decent real audio on the quadra back when that app was fairly new, nowadays though no one streams any real audio 2 I think it was. And IRC and FTP and gopher always worked fine.
*once in awhile, they are old machines I gave to my GF after I cleaned them up and tweaked them a scosh. The quadra with 64 megs ram is quite a decent surfer really as long as the pages aren't too javaised or scripted to timbuktu. I even ran it as a server for a while using quid pro quo server software. The 280c PB I use as a "storm" computer when the power goes out, all I have for it is a car batt adapter so I run it off an old truck battery with it's built in 19.2 modem. it works fine for that purpose the few times a year I have to.
I *like* hanging on to my nostalgia, I still have my 512k and it still boots! The floppy based OS still works! Well, last time I tried it, I admit it's about 9 months now since the last time.
...some of the plans are to chip the military and police first. Since they are the ones who will be doing the enforcing of any chipping mandates, they will be able to rationalise it to any protesters that "they got the chip, now you need to get it".
Special forces allegedly have this already in some situations (this is hearsay, I have no proof), and there's been more than a few articles I have read about proposals for the police getting it in their hands or wrists to have it tied to smart chips inside their service guns, so only they can fire them. some gun control advocates want this for all firearms and owners in fact, the tech already exists.
but ya, incrementalism will make this happen. Concerned parents wanting their kids chipped in case of kidnapping or terrorism. Prisoners chipped for "security and safety and monitoring" and etc. Patients chipped like in this article. nthose spanish nightclub patrons who got the chip earlier this year for VIP status inside the club. blah blah blah, eventually everyone will fall into a chippable category for some reason or another.
Once enough various random subgroups have it, then it will be almost easy for them to get everyone to do it. There's a variety of possible scenarios I can see where it might occur.
Slippery slope, there's always good and bad in any new technology, but DANG if various governments and other no goodniks always seem to have the uncanny ability to extract "bad" from any situation. That's the only thing ALL governments down through history eventually have in common-the capacity and eventual bent for, well...evil.
Humanity evolves, groupings of humans known as governments always de-evolve.
...seems like.. I don't know but seems like...anyone who wanted to down one of these things could use a two stage sort of weapon. Use a similar radio controlled mini blimp to get up near to the target big blimp, and once nearby could launch any old cheap normal rocket(s) at it, at least to disable the propulsion plant or sensor pods. There's no need to down the thing, just make it ineffective.
that's one way, another would be to try and hack any of the control or surveillence telemetry.
another way, use a ground based laser to try and blind it
another way, take out the ground control HQ
alternative, compromise (social engineering, coerced or bribed or both) a key operator in the project
...to what long duration voyage submariners go through. 500 days is a long time though, I don't think any totally submerged and all sealed up submarine voyage has lasted that long, I think something like 6 weeks is more normal.(could be wrong on that, any knowledgeable folks please correct me) I am sure there are tons of scientific studies already about the physiological and psychological impacts of long term close quarters living, where you can't just "get out" and all your existence is self contained, more or less. The subs though can make their own fresh water and O2, so that makes it easier in many ways. Also no weightlessness to contend with. But....similar.
Hmm, sorta like jail, too, in a way.
...the elections by the globalist elite, you know, the folks who think most of humanity consists of "useless eaters". It REALLY is that simple. People are hip enough to see if you have a one party state that it's a dictatorship. With two parties it gets harder to see and it's easier for folks to stay in comfortable denial about it, and computerised voting is a great way to KEEP it a two for one party sham election.
We've always had election fraud to some degree, but perots and naders and buchanans campaigns scared the socks off of the elite globalist goons, they needed a way to outright insure that the international bankers/corporate party candidate always won, in ANY race if that is what it took. The internet has started to break the back of the controlled propoganda press, people CAN find out there are other viewpoints and other candidates, so combining scam e voting with controlling the "debates" and who gets on the ballot and with gerrymandering, etc, etc, they can be sure to always get their puppet doofus in no matter what else happens.
You can go back and research this, it's origins. Several good whistleblowers out there were discovering the higher level truth of the tallies 20 years ago, this newest dodge is just an extension of what they have been doing since then.
Last time I voted with a diebold machine I checked the results later, MY vote was never registered in the official tally near as I could ascertain, and with no way to check it, you have no case to prosecute. They can hack these machines in advance, or on the fly during the election, with modems or whatever, inserted cards. They've been busted already, yet we still have them. That should be enough of a clue right there.
forgot url, here it is:- cart. htm
http://www.biggameproshop.com/4x4lifted-golf
Here's an alternative that fits your criteria and budget (top end), a 4x4 very off-road dual electric engine "golf" cart. It's more for hunting or farm chores, but it appears to have serious powah. Looks nifty actually, found it on google readily. Carries extra passengers and gear, so it is more practical than the centaur concept vehicle, IMO.
All I got now is an old lawn buggy with no mower on it, cost me 100 clams even, runs great, and even when I get it stuck I just yank it out myself. I tote a small wagon trailer with it and carry a lot of tools around the complex where I work. Useful when you don't want to firte up some huge tractor or truck for doing small jobs and just tooling through the woods. I *want* to make it a gas/electric hybrid vehilce, a work vehicle plus self propelled generator, but haven't scrounged the necessary electric motors and stuff yet. It's a zero additional dollars project I have in mind.
How many do you ship that are dual boot?
Just wondering is all... no biggee....
seems similar to way back when car companies wanted to try and ban aftermarket parts that would fit their cars.
These various EULAS and IP laws need some class action lawsuits to straighten that IP "it's a product and we sell it, no lease it, we have patents lookout... no it's not a product and no warranty" dichotomy. Along with "*own* it today on DVD" commercials.