It seems to me the best storage material would be stainless steel platers from 5 1/4 to 12 inches in diameter. Information could be recoarded by litleraly blasting pits in the material on both sides. The first disk in the archive set would be marked so it would be ovious that it is the first. I would make each disk a different color and that color would folow the sequence of colors in the s pectrim. That way if the disks got out of order it would be easy natural way to tell what order to put them in. A society advanced enough to get to the archive would know what the spectrim is.
I thought about using gold since in has real good properties for storing lasting information but decited against it for several reas ons. One, gold is soft and can easy deform destoring the information. Stanless steel will last forever where I want to put it. No t years, decades or even millinua, but billions of years. Second, gold is vaulable. Stanless steel itself is practially worthless. Only the information on the disks has any real value other than the fact that disks themselves would tell a small story about how technologicly advanced in materal research our society was.
The first disk I would make side one low density. So low that you could tell there was information on it by rubbing your fingers ac ross it. First few tracks would contain a roseta stone on how to read the rest of the disks. The next few tracks would contain a s ummary of what is in the archive and why it is here. The next tracks would contain all the information on how to build a reader fo r the much higher density disk to follow. Hell, I would include a "simple" mechanical reader in the archive for the first disk and base the higher density readers on the simple one.
Now where would I put this archive? I would put it in the most stable, secure environment I could think of, space. The first archi ve I would put on the moon, in Tyco crater. Second archive I would put in a secure orbit around Jupiter and the third I would put i n deep space beyond the orbit of Pluto. Now here is where I start ripping off 2001. I would put each archive set inside a black, o bisidian monolith of perfect dimesions. You want it so that any intellegent creature that came across it would know from looking at it that this was placed here by another intellegence. So you want it to look as unnatural as possible.
I would have the archive set in side a special case in each monolith that would resonate when a high intenstiy radio beam was focuse d inside the monolith. So that any probing intellegence would know there is something inside it. The only way to open it would be to break it.
Now why put it on the moon and in space? Well I couldn't think of a better place to put them. Certainly couldn't keep them here o n Earth. By placing it on the moon if humans where blasted back to the stone age we would have to climb to a level of technology eq ual to the '60 before we could retrieve the first archive. Since by that time we would have forgoten about the second archive the first one would point to it on the last disk. The second archive would contain all the contents of the first archive plus much more . The third archive would contain the first and second but no new information. See the third archive is not ment for humans, it is ment for others.
In 4 billion or so years the sun is going to expand and consume the first and maybe the second archive if they are not found. The third archive will last forever in deep orbit outside Pluto. It would be for any future aliens that came along in a few billion ye ars. It would be our way of saying "we where here, this is us and what we where." It would point to the second and first archive b ut the first and second would not referance it. We want humans to forget about it sinse it is not for us.
What would you put in such a archive? I would put us. Our cultures, our history, copies of our music, stories, religious beliefs, and genetic make up. I doubt I would put much technology in it because that would be redundent. Any society advanced enough to ret rieve the archives past the first would be far in advance of our society when we placed them there.
Somebody is going to see the words space involved and going to bawk because some imgainary cost they are going to pull out of thier ass. While I don't know how much such a project would cost I would rather spend a couple billion on this than on some mulitbillion dollar pentegon wartoy. Besides, I don't think it would cost a couple billion.
When I first read this I though it was another attempt create DIVX over again but the more I think about it. DIVX as a pile of shit, technicly. But the ideal itself might have been sound it there had been more thought in to it.
You rent a movie for $4.00 and never have to take it back. In two days the disk is blank and you toss it in the trash. Neat ideal, you never have to take the disk back and no late fees. Unfortunaly landfills fill up with more useless trash. That is unless they make the disks with biodegradable plastic. I know such plastics exist I just don't know how much they cost. If it is economical then this might be a good thing. Or maybe we could recycle the disks...
If not made out of biodegradable plastic or recycled then this thing is just going to become a landfiller and another thing to dump then we need to kill this bitch now. But if done right this could be a good thing.
It's been awhile since I watched Xena but it seems it runs about 3 to 1. They will have two or three bad to average episodes then have one kick ass one.
A good one that spings to mind is where Xena and her bitch where surrounded by some hord with Xena and some Athens soilders trap in a fort. I though that was a nice episode.
One thing I hated about Xena was Gabby. What a wuss. Reminded me of that prick in Highlander. I watched one of the new ones the other day. I think she got with the program. Bash it until it stops moving then reason with it.
Seen it, bought it here at the EB in Riverchase Alabama. Also bought Quake 3 there and Myth II the same day they put it on the shelf. They have a whole shelf now for Linux games and apps. They even have the shrink wrap copy of WordPerfect 8 there. I'm making it a point to buy my games there to let them know that there is demand for them and people want them.
Now the day that you can walk into Wally World and buy a shrink wrapped Linux game I think we will have made it.
Who cares? If they run anything like linux q3 does on my machine they'll be crap..
Good god man, what piece of shit you trying to run it on? A '486? Quake 3 was quite play able on my old Cyrix 200 system with a Voodoo 3000 graphics card. I just spent $20 on for a 300 mhz upgrade and the system rocks.
Hey! Starship Troopers had some excellent parts! What about... no that was stupid. How about.... No only and idiot would land on a planet with out Space to Ground support. Well... no that was stupid too...
In my option Ebert and his sidekick are couple morons that woundn't know a good movie if it bit them on the ass.
I and I saw Bicentenial Man and I liked it, alot.
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Or you could look at it like this. Your wife is wandering around aimlessly looking for her car. It sets off the alarm and a security guard shows up to investigate. She tells him she is looking for her car and describes it. The guard the helps her look or calls or assitance in finding it. I've had this happen to me in the parking deck here.
I wandered around the parking deck for 15 mins. A security guard shows up and asks me whats up. I told him I was looking for my car. He calls shack and ask Frank if he can spot a white mustang on the cammra and tells me where it's at. He then walks me to the car. Is he making sure that I'm supposed to be there and not trying to steal a car or really trying to help me? Who cares? The results are the same. I found my car and he did his job.
Problem number 4: The end. You get the impression that Arnie goes to heaven since he sees his family, but how does he defeat the devil? I'll tell you, by committing suicide! A MORTAL SIN...I had to stop myself from laughing out loud when he killed himself and then got to go to heaven.
Shame about EOD. That was one movie I really wanted to see. Looked good on previews but that was all the best parts.
Now about this suicide and mortal sin thing. I don't think it can be viewed as suicide. It was more along the lines of "he sacrificed himself to save the world" kind of thing. He had a messia thing going for him. I knew that was how the movie was going to end when Arniechunked his gun.
Can't believe I almost got real deep in an Arnie movie. Any hoot, my pick for a kick ass movie was Sleepy Hollow
Got to agree with this. I was the biggest Amiga fanatic back in early '90 but she's dead, Jim. I still think the A3000 was one of the best computers ever designed but time to face reality. Let's pat the dirt back down on the corpse and let it rest in peace.
It is likely that the program will be able to successfully identify people who will act violently. And this is a very good thing.
Okay, then what? The last time I looked just because you have the potential to act violently or the profile in this case, doesn't make it a crime.
Okay, now that you've got the drop on the violente ones, then what? You watch them 24 hours a day? You race them in for therepy that is for thier own good?
Not only is this kind of bullshit not needed but it is down right unconsititutional. I think its like presumed inoccent until proven guilty. Fuck that! We can profile the bastard and get him now.
Last time I checked thinking evil thoughts isn't a crime. It's carrying them out that makes it a crime.
It is likely that the program will be able to successfully identify people who will act violently. And this is a very good thing.
Okay, then what? The last time I looked just because you have the potential to act violently or the profile in this case, doesn't make it a crime.
Okay, now that you've got the drop on the violente ones, then what? You watch them 24 hours a day? You race them in for therepy that is for thier own good?
Not only is this kind of bullshit not needed but it is down right unconsititutional. I think its like presumed inoccent until proven guilty. Fuck that! We can profile the bastard and get him now.
Last time I checked thinking evil thoughts isn't a crime. It's carrying them out that makes it a crime. Neon
Sounds like the schools here in Jasper. Not orange jumpsuits but school uniforms which do the same thing. I thought the Supreme Court has already rulled that school uniforms in public schools where unconsisitutional.
Nope, it wasn't T2. I think that was in 1996. A little hint is it had nothing what so ever to do with Star Trek or Star Wars, plus it had some kick ass theme music.
I bought a Play Station for two reasons. One, it was cheap and two I got tired of the constant upgrade of my PC to play games. With the PS I don't have to worry if I've got enough memory or my graphics card is powerfull enough. I just buy it, take it home, and play it. I'm kind of glad it's a closed system so I don't have to worry about that crap.
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It seems to me the best storage material would be stainless steel platers from 5 1/4 to 12 inches in diameter. Information could be recoarded by litleraly blasting pits in the material on both sides. The first disk in the archive set would be marked so it would be ovious that it is the first. I would make each disk a different color and that color would folow the sequence of colors in the s pectrim. That way if the disks got out of order it would be easy natural way to tell what order to put them in. A society advanced enough to get to the archive would know what the spectrim is.
I thought about using gold since in has real good properties for storing lasting information but decited against it for several reas ons. One, gold is soft and can easy deform destoring the information. Stanless steel will last forever where I want to put it. No t years, decades or even millinua, but billions of years. Second, gold is vaulable. Stanless steel itself is practially worthless. Only the information on the disks has any real value other than the fact that disks themselves would tell a small story about how technologicly advanced in materal research our society was.
The first disk I would make side one low density. So low that you could tell there was information on it by rubbing your fingers ac ross it. First few tracks would contain a roseta stone on how to read the rest of the disks. The next few tracks would contain a s ummary of what is in the archive and why it is here. The next tracks would contain all the information on how to build a reader fo r the much higher density disk to follow. Hell, I would include a "simple" mechanical reader in the archive for the first disk and base the higher density readers on the simple one.
Now where would I put this archive? I would put it in the most stable, secure environment I could think of, space. The first archi ve I would put on the moon, in Tyco crater. Second archive I would put in a secure orbit around Jupiter and the third I would put i n deep space beyond the orbit of Pluto. Now here is where I start ripping off 2001. I would put each archive set inside a black, o bisidian monolith of perfect dimesions. You want it so that any intellegent creature that came across it would know from looking at it that this was placed here by another intellegence. So you want it to look as unnatural as possible.
I would have the archive set in side a special case in each monolith that would resonate when a high intenstiy radio beam was focuse d inside the monolith. So that any probing intellegence would know there is something inside it. The only way to open it would be to break it.
Now why put it on the moon and in space? Well I couldn't think of a better place to put them. Certainly couldn't keep them here o n Earth. By placing it on the moon if humans where blasted back to the stone age we would have to climb to a level of technology eq ual to the '60 before we could retrieve the first archive. Since by that time we would have forgoten about the second archive the first one would point to it on the last disk. The second archive would contain all the contents of the first archive plus much more . The third archive would contain the first and second but no new information. See the third archive is not ment for humans, it is ment for others.
In 4 billion or so years the sun is going to expand and consume the first and maybe the second archive if they are not found. The third archive will last forever in deep orbit outside Pluto. It would be for any future aliens that came along in a few billion ye ars. It would be our way of saying "we where here, this is us and what we where." It would point to the second and first archive b ut the first and second would not referance it. We want humans to forget about it sinse it is not for us.
What would you put in such a archive? I would put us. Our cultures, our history, copies of our music, stories, religious beliefs, and genetic make up. I doubt I would put much technology in it because that would be redundent. Any society advanced enough to ret rieve the archives past the first would be far in advance of our society when we placed them there.
Somebody is going to see the words space involved and going to bawk because some imgainary cost they are going to pull out of thier ass. While I don't know how much such a project would cost I would rather spend a couple billion on this than on some mulitbillion dollar pentegon wartoy. Besides, I don't think it would cost a couple billion.
Thank you Rob and crew. Now can we find something else to whine about? :)
Make the fuckers out of peanut brittle. You watch the movie once then eat the disk... Problem solved.
When I first read this I though it was another attempt create DIVX over again but the more I think about it. DIVX as a pile of shit, technicly. But the ideal itself might have been sound it there had been more thought in to it.
You rent a movie for $4.00 and never have to take it back. In two days the disk is blank and you toss it in the trash. Neat ideal, you never have to take the disk back and no late fees. Unfortunaly landfills fill up with more useless trash. That is unless they make the disks with biodegradable plastic. I know such plastics exist I just don't know how much they cost. If it is economical then this might be a good thing. Or maybe we could recycle the disks...
If not made out of biodegradable plastic or recycled then this thing is just going to become a landfiller and another thing to dump then we need to kill this bitch now. But if done right this could be a good thing.
It's been awhile since I watched Xena but it seems it runs about 3 to 1. They will have two or three bad to average episodes then have one kick ass one.
A good one that spings to mind is where Xena and her bitch where surrounded by some hord with Xena and some Athens soilders trap in a fort. I though that was a nice episode.
One thing I hated about Xena was Gabby. What a wuss. Reminded me of that prick in Highlander. I watched one of the new ones the other day. I think she got with the program. Bash it until it stops moving then reason with it.
"Remember, fireball first..." - me
Seen it, bought it here at the EB in Riverchase Alabama. Also bought Quake 3 there and Myth II the same day they put it on the shelf. They have a whole shelf now for Linux games and apps. They even have the shrink wrap copy of WordPerfect 8 there. I'm making it a point to buy my games there to let them know that there is demand for them and people want them.
Now the day that you can walk into Wally World and buy a shrink wrapped Linux game I think we will have made it.
Good god man, what piece of shit you trying to run it on? A '486? Quake 3 was quite play able on my old Cyrix 200 system with a Voodoo 3000 graphics card. I just spent $20 on for a 300 mhz upgrade and the system rocks.
Hey! Starship Troopers had some excellent parts! What about ... no that was stupid. How about .... No only and idiot would land on a planet with out Space to Ground support. Well ... no that was stupid too...
Well it was nice to see Kurgan working....
In my option Ebert and his sidekick are couple morons that woundn't know a good movie if it bit them on the ass.
I and I saw Bicentenial Man and I liked it, alot.
Or you could look at it like this. Your wife is wandering around aimlessly looking for her car. It sets off the alarm and a security guard shows up to investigate. She tells him she is looking for her car and describes it. The guard the helps her look or calls or assitance in finding it. I've had this happen to me in the parking deck here.
I wandered around the parking deck for 15 mins. A security guard shows up and asks me whats up. I told him I was looking for my car. He calls shack and ask Frank if he can spot a white mustang on the cammra and tells me where it's at. He then walks me to the car. Is he making sure that I'm supposed to be there and not trying to steal a car or really trying to help me? Who cares? The results are the same. I found my car and he did his job.
Now this was different. I don't think it should be moderated as a troll. How about a -1; creative?
Sounds like what you would call a really loud obnoxus fart
Shame about EOD. That was one movie I really wanted to see. Looked good on previews but that was all the best parts.
Now about this suicide and mortal sin thing. I don't think it can be viewed as suicide. It was more along the lines of "he sacrificed himself to save the world" kind of thing. He had a messia thing going for him. I knew that was how the movie was going to end when Arniechunked his gun.
Can't believe I almost got real deep in an Arnie movie. Any hoot, my pick for a kick ass movie was Sleepy Hollow
A pile of shit by any other name ... is still a pile of shit.
Site was up when I went to it just a few minutes ago. Everything looked fine and I say no hint of it being shutdown on the front page.
Got to agree with this. I was the biggest Amiga fanatic back in early '90 but she's dead, Jim. I still think the A3000 was one of the best computers ever designed but time to face reality. Let's pat the dirt back down on the corpse and let it rest in peace.
Neon
Sorry about the double post.
Okay, then what? The last time I looked just because you have the potential to act violently or the profile in this case, doesn't make it a crime.
Okay, now that you've got the drop on the violente ones, then what? You watch them 24 hours a day? You race them in for therepy that is for thier own good?
Not only is this kind of bullshit not needed but it is down right unconsititutional. I think its like presumed inoccent until proven guilty. Fuck that! We can profile the bastard and get him now.
Last time I checked thinking evil thoughts isn't a crime. It's carrying them out that makes it a crime.
Neon
Okay, then what? The last time I looked just because you have the potential to act violently or the profile in this case, doesn't make it a crime.
Okay, now that you've got the drop on the violente ones, then what? You watch them 24 hours a day? You race them in for therepy that is for thier own good?
Not only is this kind of bullshit not needed but it is down right unconsititutional. I think its like presumed inoccent until proven guilty. Fuck that! We can profile the bastard and get him now.
Last time I checked thinking evil thoughts isn't a crime. It's carrying them out that makes it a crime. Neon
Sounds like the schools here in Jasper. Not orange jumpsuits but school uniforms which do the same thing. I thought the Supreme Court has already rulled that school uniforms in public schools where unconsisitutional.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth..
for the rest of are going to the stars.
Bingo. One of my all time favorite shows. Cheesy with a capital 'C' but they knew how to crash a Eagle.
Nope, it wasn't T2. I think that was in 1996. A little hint is it had nothing what so ever to do with Star Trek or Star Wars, plus it had some kick ass theme music.
Now being a nerd is a "mental disorder!!" Jesus man! If your goth, gay, or just plain goofy there is something wrong with your head today.
Speaking of today, Sept. 13, 1999, can anyone name the event in SciFi history that took place to day?
I bought a Play Station for two reasons. One, it was cheap and two I got tired of the constant upgrade of my PC to play games. With the PS I don't have to worry if I've got enough memory or my graphics card is powerfull enough. I just buy it, take it home, and play it. I'm kind of glad it's a closed system so I don't have to worry about that crap.