You're right. It doesn't have to take a week in real time, but the behind-the-scenes work in arranging interviews and going over results and consulting with interviewers adds up very quickly.
I think he uses the SATs to narrow the field to people who have a very good chance of succeeding. While it may be true that others could succeed, he doesn't even have to consider them to fill his class.
I think the final decision is a subjective one, and it's tougher to evaluate tons of applicants when you could just be evaluating a far fewer number of "reasonably safe bets".
If he can accept a certain, very small number of people to give a free education to, and has a very limited amount of time to pick those people, I don't think it's unreasonable for him to use SAT's. It's his university. Whoever gets accepted will be accepted on entirely subjective terms.
I guess that when you make your millions, you will be able to sit down with the people that are trying to get the free education for a week or more. Most millionaires don't have that combination of generosity and free time.
A good university will place their students under a crushing workload.
I don't hire people for what they know, or what they learned in university, or what projects they did. I hire them because they can stand an intense amount of pressure and learn new skills at the same time. "Easing off" on the students will make them less useful.
Remember, the facts learned in university are secondary. Most of what you learn won't be regularly used in the work world. It is more important that you understand how things work and that you not bail when the going gets tough.
A "secessful" (sic) university teaches people to think.
Successful graduates of Greenspun's course will know their stuff cold. I have complete faith in this from reading his (gigantic) site. The guy knows how to get things done, and he's smart enough to succeed.
"We (at least in the USA) are a credentialed society. That means we need to have proof of what you say and claim. Without that little piece of paper you really don't have a chance. "
I disagree. I hire regularly, and if I came across a graduate of Phil's program who had adequate communication skills, I'd snap them up in a minute. Credentials are helpful in determining how much pressure a person can take and what kind of workload they can survive. Anyone whose work or educational history can provide the same type of information (degree or not) is equally eligible for my jobs.
Note that this won't work at organizations where H.R. has stolen the reins and decides who gets hired without any real insight into the job and its requirements. Not getting a job at a place like this is a good thing.
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You picked the wrong person for your example. Ani Defranco owns her own record company, "Righteous Babe Records". That means that instead of about 50 cents per CD sold, she makes about US $7.00. Even before she reached her current popularity, other performers were in awe of how well her decision to "go it alone" paid off.
I look at the way the prospective employee responds to questions.
Some interviewees will answer questions when asked.
Some interviewees will answer questions and use the answer as an opportunity to brag a little.
Some will figure out how your company works and what your responsibilities and problems are, just by the questions asked. They can figure out what I'm after by the questions I'm asking, come to the conclusion that this is a cool place to work at, and manage to take the conversation to a higher level. The interview goes from a question-answer thing to a strategic discussion, with the interviewee asking questions and making suggestions about how to address (on an elevated level) the needs of the company.
I've never gone wrong hiring (or getting hired when I was) the last person.
I don't issue a shopping list of the languages, paradigms, applications, etc. that the successful applicants should know. Such lists are a primary indicator that the company you are dealing with is one that just *doesn't get it*. If you go to one of those companies, you will find yourself herded like cattle and dictated to by so-called "Human Resources" types who generally lack any insight into programming or development.
Those in school should also keep this in mind. The content learned during a degree is secondary. What is important is that, for a certain amount of time, you can be put under a lot of pressure, and learn a great deal without cracking.
Here's what I'm looking for: 1) Great communication skills - It does me no good to hire a genius that nobody understands, or who irritates customers
2) Graduate Of The School Of Hard Knocks - Graduates fresh from school generally are pumped full of misguided notions about their worth. While they may be paid handsomely after graduation, they are generally a drain on the company for the first 6 months to a year. I'd rather hire someone who has at least one computer-related nightmare job on their resume. These jobs generally build character and give the employee some perspective about what the work world is really about.
3) Signs of Life - Many applicants are very sluggish during the interview. I'm not hiring you so I can tell you what to do; I'm hiring you so I can give you a domain of responsibility and then not have to deal with it anymore. Take the initiative.
4) A brain - I don't particularly care about the degree, although it's generally a safe bet that a person who makes it through an engineering degree has some intelligence. If the person can show that they're motivated and willing to learn, then I'll hire them.
Hacking the i-opener became much easier when Ken Segler swapped the existing keyboard for a standard ps/2 keyboard. The way to get to a shell is to press "esc", then "44444".
The actual CPM rates after discounts and unsold ad inventory has been figured in is another.
Or, to use an analogy: If you are going to sell your house, will you list it at the price you want to sell it at? No. You publish a higher price, and let people think that they're getting a bargain when you accept (possibly much) less.
Average reasonable CPMs for reasonably targeted sites go from $5 CPM to $20 CPM. Most webmasters would be very happy with $10-$15 CPM.
Mozilla's UI is hugely configurable, and you're complaining about it's looks?
In the spirit of open source, if you can do better, then fix the damn thing. If not, then wait until someone comes up with something better. If it's that bad, they will.
It's pretty lame to complain about something that is fully configurable by any user.
The OpenSRS affiliate I use is www.domainmonger.com. They cost $17 per year, but if you buy more years, the price declines. I have been very happy with what they do and how their site works. It's very simple, but it allows you to get a domain quickly and cheaply.
Note: OpenSRS domains take about 2 days to propagate through to whois and other registrars. If you think it isn't working, just give it one more day. It has never failed for me.
You wouldn't want them to take a journalistic chance, now, would you? Don't you realize that millions of dollars are riding on the shareholder's perception of this internet property?
It's too bad that a company like that, who already makes computers, don't have this thing in production. I appreciate that they make all of the info available for those who would like to build their own, but dammit, I'm too busy (or lazy) to build my own!
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By your reasoning, a limited series of lithographs by an artist isn't art.
I'm sure there are many in the art world who'd be happy to disagree with that.
I wanted to ask you how many programmers you hired this year.
The answer was "zero".
You're right. It doesn't have to take a week in real time, but the behind-the-scenes work in arranging interviews and going over results and consulting with interviewers adds up very quickly.
I think he uses the SATs to narrow the field to people who have a very good chance of succeeding. While it may be true that others could succeed, he doesn't even have to consider them to fill his class.
I think the final decision is a subjective one, and it's tougher to evaluate tons of applicants when you could just be evaluating a far fewer number of "reasonably safe bets".
I think you're looking a gift horse in the mouth.
If he can accept a certain, very small number of people to give a free education to, and has a very limited amount of time to pick those people, I don't think it's unreasonable for him to use SAT's. It's his university. Whoever gets accepted will be accepted on entirely subjective terms.
I guess that when you make your millions, you will be able to sit down with the people that are trying to get the free education for a week or more. Most millionaires don't have that combination of generosity and free time.
How many people have you hired this year?
A good university will place their students under a crushing workload.
I don't hire people for what they know, or what they learned in university, or what projects they did. I hire them because they can stand an intense amount of pressure and learn new skills at the same time. "Easing off" on the students will make them less useful.
Remember, the facts learned in university are secondary. Most of what you learn won't be regularly used in the work world. It is more important that you understand how things work and that you not bail when the going gets tough.
A "secessful" (sic) university teaches people to think.
Successful graduates of Greenspun's course will know their stuff cold. I have complete faith in this from reading his (gigantic) site. The guy knows how to get things done, and he's smart enough to succeed.
"We (at least in the USA) are a credentialed society. That means we need to have proof of what you say and claim. Without that little piece of paper you really don't have a chance. "
I disagree. I hire regularly, and if I came across a graduate of Phil's program who had adequate communication skills, I'd snap them up in a minute. Credentials are helpful in determining how much pressure a person can take and what kind of workload they can survive. Anyone whose work or educational history can provide the same type of information (degree or not) is equally eligible for my jobs.
Note that this won't work at organizations where H.R. has stolen the reins and decides who gets hired without any real insight into the job and its requirements. Not getting a job at a place like this is a good thing.
You picked the wrong person for your example. Ani Defranco owns her own record company, "Righteous Babe Records". That means that instead of about 50 cents per CD sold, she makes about US $7.00. Even before she reached her current popularity, other performers were in awe of how well her decision to "go it alone" paid off.
I look at the way the prospective employee responds to questions.
Some interviewees will answer questions when asked.
Some interviewees will answer questions and use the answer as an opportunity to brag a little.
Some will figure out how your company works and what your responsibilities and problems are, just by the questions asked. They can figure out what I'm after by the questions I'm asking, come to the conclusion that this is a cool place to work at, and manage to take the conversation to a higher level. The interview goes from a question-answer thing to a strategic discussion, with the interviewee asking questions and making suggestions about how to address (on an elevated level) the needs of the company.
I've never gone wrong hiring (or getting hired when I was) the last person.
I hire programmers constantly.
I don't issue a shopping list of the languages, paradigms, applications, etc. that the successful applicants should know. Such lists are a primary indicator that the company you are dealing with is one that just *doesn't get it*. If you go to one of those companies, you will find yourself herded like cattle and dictated to by so-called "Human Resources" types who generally lack any insight into programming or development.
Those in school should also keep this in mind. The content learned during a degree is secondary. What is important is that, for a certain amount of time, you can be put under a lot of pressure, and learn a great deal without cracking.
Here's what I'm looking for:
1) Great communication skills - It does me no good to hire a genius that nobody understands, or who irritates customers
2) Graduate Of The School Of Hard Knocks - Graduates fresh from school generally are pumped full of misguided notions about their worth. While they may be paid handsomely after graduation, they are generally a drain on the company for the first 6 months to a year. I'd rather hire someone who has at least one computer-related nightmare job on their resume. These jobs generally build character and give the employee some perspective about what the work world is really about.
3) Signs of Life - Many applicants are very sluggish during the interview. I'm not hiring you so I can tell you what to do; I'm hiring you so I can give you a domain of responsibility and then not have to deal with it anymore. Take the initiative.
4) A brain - I don't particularly care about the degree, although it's generally a safe bet that a person who makes it through an engineering degree has some intelligence. If the person can show that they're motivated and willing to learn, then I'll hire them.
If someone came to me after going through this course, I'm pretty sure they would have a good chance of landing a job.
I don't think Esther Dyson is their Mail List administrator.
You forgot to quote the part after, where he says that he has new code that makes it better.
Better than MP3 is not everywhere already.
Hacking the i-opener became much easier when Ken Segler swapped the existing keyboard for a standard ps/2 keyboard. The way to get to a shell is to press "esc", then "44444".
There are lots of people in this world who:
a) have a computer
b) need their hand held
The Gimp may make many things possible, but it will never prevail until it makes many things easy.
Citing a definition that happens to be based at a website doesn't mean that the person learned the meaning of the word from that website.
Your arrogant and sarcastic tone isn't becoming. I'd suggest you drop it and stick to the facts.
Published CPM rates on rate cards are one thing.
The actual CPM rates after discounts and unsold ad inventory has been figured in is another.
Or, to use an analogy: If you are going to sell your house, will you list it at the price you want to sell it at? No. You publish a higher price, and let people think that they're getting a bargain when you accept (possibly much) less.
Average reasonable CPMs for reasonably targeted sites go from $5 CPM to $20 CPM. Most webmasters would be very happy with $10-$15 CPM.
It's Elwood Blues who has the thing handcuffed to him. But it's not a laptop, it's his Briefcase Full Of Blues.
Hope this helps.
You can find it at www.i-opener-linux.net. You have to go to the menu on the upper right hand side, and click on "Original site".
You can also get it for free at Chapters.ca
Mozilla's UI is hugely configurable, and you're complaining about it's looks?
In the spirit of open source, if you can do better, then fix the damn thing. If not, then wait until someone comes up with something better. If it's that bad, they will.
It's pretty lame to complain about something that is fully configurable by any user.
The OpenSRS affiliate I use is www.domainmonger.com. They cost $17 per year, but if you buy more years, the price declines. I have been very happy with what they do and how their site works. It's very simple, but it allows you to get a domain quickly and cheaply.
Note: OpenSRS domains take about 2 days to propagate through to whois and other registrars. If you think it isn't working, just give it one more day. It has never failed for me.
You wouldn't want them to take a journalistic chance, now, would you? Don't you realize that millions of dollars are riding on the shareholder's perception of this internet property?
It's too bad that a company like that, who already makes computers, don't have this thing in production.
I appreciate that they make all of the info available for those who would like to build their own, but dammit, I'm too busy (or lazy) to build my own!
I'd say Crusoe isn't really out, if I can't go to the store and buy one. Which I will probably do, the day it really is out.
It's announced.
Yes, I know that samples are shipping to OEM's. That and about 6 bucks will get me a cup of coffee, these days.