The majority of comments here are missing the point -- they lambast Google for refusing cNet something over an issue of supposed privacy, but that isn't it at all. The reason Eric (and Google) are avoiding cNet is not that they went and found his personal information, it's that they published it in a frequently read place. Sure, it's not particularly hard to use Google and find it out, but now no-one even has to, because cNet's done all the work for them.
Eric is understandably pissed off at them for gathering up this information about him, as he probably feels it was unnecessary and mean-spirited for them to do it in the first place.
I have to say, I'm rather impressed. Everytime I get a look at the so-called 'Start' pages that Microsoft provides, they seem to be doing something relatively interesting.
In this instance, however, I think their offering is better than Google's equivalent customized home. The implementation seems more intuitive, and it definitely seems like they took a look at some of the things people were complaining about with Google/ig and fixed them.
It's not perfect, but it's pretty good looking and seems functional. Kudos, Microsoft -- although I expect this is just something someone made up because they like XMLHttp.
I'm sure it will be a great success; everyone knows that your relative worth is measured by your ability to convince hundreds of strangers to add you to a list.
What is the point, really? What is the use? Why would anyone actually do this, other than to be nonsensically elitist and braindead?
Fair enough; I wasn't aware of that. I do, however, stand by my statement that it doesn't really make sense. I'm all for innovation and changing the way that things work, but only if those changes actually make sense in a real world environment.
If someone could provide some examples - realistic ones - of ways this could help usability and design, I'd be glad to hear it. From what I've seen so far, though, it seems just like a nifty idea with no practical value.
Seriously, is it *that* slow of a news day? This hack is neither well-implemented nor does it have any real use. The example the author mentioned doesn't even make sense, because links are not, and never were, supposed to work like that - they don't make sense for multiple targets, as that is a page design decision, not a DOM decision. This so-called multi-linking is silly, semantically nonsensical, and simply adds bloat to otherwise clear pages.
I think it should be fairly obvious that whatever they claim, they did something illegal. Add to that the fact that they did it months ago and no-one found out until now, and their claim is suspect even more.
Why is it that they had the sense to break into this system, but not to tell the administrators beforehand? If they were trying to show vulnerability, that means they had a little bit of common sense, right? Why not enough to figure out that doing it without permission won't get them anywhere good?
Interesting idea, but what if they took it farther? Google has shown themselves to be more than capable when dealing with cross-browser, intuitive interfaces.
Imagine that sort of application, for enterprise, but add on to it. What else do they need? Calendaring? Task management? Google could, conceivably, create a slick and attractive interface for the management of all of those necessary corporate/business functions.
I mean, it's not that much of a stretch - Yahoo! has their calendar, but what does Google have? More importantly, why don't they have something yet? I'd be willing to bet you'll see something that integrates all of their services in a concrete manner soon, and from their it'll just be another step to packaging it up and selling it as an application.
This articles exist because it's sort of an American ideal to be good at everything, and also because America has been a global superpower for a long time.
Moreover, the gist of this article doesn't mean that the U.S. is going to suddenly become irrelevant - it means that the U.S. isn't as technologically advanced in certain areas as other, seemingly weaker countries. And that the U.S. is falling behind, as well, which is certainly something to note.
Ooh, thanks for the tip. I think it would be nice to be able to customize your results like that automatically - something that Google could certainly do themselves. Of course, it would be the work of a few short minutes of FF extension as well.
I just think it's amusing that the people who actually intend to do this sort of thing think that their silly little random words scrawled on things are somehow inherently 'better' than a kid tagging his name.
Newsflash, morons, no-one is going to pick up on this. The majority of people are going to say, "Hey, look at that annoying, stupid, and obscure graffiti!"
Also, way to go flamebait on the title; there is a lot of worthwhile and interesting graffiti out there. It's not just about stupid kids marking their territory, you know. This is, in fact, less art than most of the graffiti that I pay attention to in my city.
What the fuck is wrong with people? Honestly, did they even read Ender's Game? It's not just some action movie with kids, you know. Well, at least I can get disappointed early.
When is it ever a good idea to directly post a link to a 17mB file to any high-traffic website? Either this guy has never heard of/., or he's really just out to destroy those servers.
Pretty cool video, though. I still like the Honda ad more.
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Good point, but I don't really think that the book is trying to say that playing games will make you some sort of ultra-desirable commodity. Rather, it's pointing out the potential assets that growing up solving problems that are routinely seen in video games can give someone.
Obviously, if you can't communicate effectively you won't succeed, but knowing that maybe 0.1% of the time you spend playing video games could be seen as developing your abilities, well, that puts a different spin on how you look at it.
this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view, but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside.
This does not make any sense. At all. What language was this translated from, exactly?
Anyways, I always liked the little daemon. It's cute, and it has a very indy feel to it - of course, I guess that's what they're trying to get away from.
What OS are you running under? I've just upgraded from a Graphire 2 to an Intuos 3, mostly for size reasons, and I feel that the software is perfect. It's small, doesn't get in the way, and lets me change basically any feature of my tablet.
Which model do you have? Get an Intuos 3 - they're a fucking wonderful piece of equipment, haven't had a single problem with mine.
I would love to have something like that to learn about the basics of computing, mostly because I got my start with high-level software. Like a sibling post said, the knowledge isn't necessary, but it could definitely be useful.
I started getting into computers when I was around 13 as well - however that was only two years ago. My knowledge is limited to mostly high-level languages and the like.
I've only had one problem upgrading, and that was from 0.7 to 0.8. So far, my only problem is that it claims there are updates available when there are in fact none. Plus, the preview release seems to be very good about checking your plugins and updating them.
While your site may not be tech-oriented, I'd be willing to bet that your sampling of users isn't accurate at all. For one, your site appears to be advertising a browser-based civilization game, which is not something the average user would be likely to participate in. The more technically adept users and the geeks would fall into your site's user category, I would guess.
That's ridiculous. That's like saying just because the cows can't defeat us in combat means they deserve to be killed, or the trees because they're defenseless, too. Just because people are stupid gives you no right to abuse them. That's why we've evolved towards a more humanitarian form of government, in case you didn't know.
Seriously, do you actually believe what you wrote?
Don't take my words out of context. I'm all for Linux being easier to install - hell, I'm for all software being easier to install -, but as it is, Firefox is pretty fucking simple. It doesn't take any command line, unpack, make install or anything of that nature. You might have to download a new binary, a new 5mB binary. Not a big deal.
I do think, however, that a better installer could be developed that had universal application. But then, people don't think "Hey, I'm going to make a revolutionary installer!", do they?
I think you missed the point of my post. Libraries are fine and dandy, but they won't make you an entire game physics engine - that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the actual application, not just the references that it has. In my eyes, using a library is a great idea - but I'm not going to make my game from just libraries.
I don't have anything against building off of others' work - far from it, I'd advocate that. I just think that I tend to prefer creating the glue or framework of an application myself. Obviously a commercial video game is a completely different setting, but I think that certain comparisons could be made. Again, I'm not saying the way they are currently doing it is the best way, I'm just saying why I think they might be doing it, per-programmer.
I should also note that I'm nothing like a professional programmer, so my thoughts on the matter don't necessarily pertain. Fifteen years-old and only a couple of them with any programming at all.
I can't say I think that's really a problem. I mean, I had to do it when upgrading from 0.8 to 0.9, but since then I just over-install.
Plus, it's a five meg download (at 300-500kB, no less), and bookmarks stay through versions, no matter what (in my experience, obviously).
Get over it, honestly. If you don't want to upgrade, that's fine - don't. While I do understand why you would want a better installer, that isn't the central point of a browser. Firefox consistently delivers an excellent browsing experience, and that's what they promise - not an excellent install.
Dragon Age is, probably, but remember that Atari owns the rights to NWN - not Bioware. I doubt Bioware really wanted to do this; if they did, you'd expect that they would develop it, wouldn't you?
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The majority of comments here are missing the point -- they lambast Google for refusing cNet something over an issue of supposed privacy, but that isn't it at all. The reason Eric (and Google) are avoiding cNet is not that they went and found his personal information, it's that they published it in a frequently read place. Sure, it's not particularly hard to use Google and find it out, but now no-one even has to, because cNet's done all the work for them.
Eric is understandably pissed off at them for gathering up this information about him, as he probably feels it was unnecessary and mean-spirited for them to do it in the first place.
I have to say, I'm rather impressed. Everytime I get a look at the so-called 'Start' pages that Microsoft provides, they seem to be doing something relatively interesting.
In this instance, however, I think their offering is better than Google's equivalent customized home. The implementation seems more intuitive, and it definitely seems like they took a look at some of the things people were complaining about with Google/ig and fixed them.
It's not perfect, but it's pretty good looking and seems functional. Kudos, Microsoft -- although I expect this is just something someone made up because they like XMLHttp.
I'm sure it will be a great success; everyone knows that your relative worth is measured by your ability to convince hundreds of strangers to add you to a list.
What is the point, really? What is the use? Why would anyone actually do this, other than to be nonsensically elitist and braindead?
Fair enough; I wasn't aware of that. I do, however, stand by my statement that it doesn't really make sense. I'm all for innovation and changing the way that things work, but only if those changes actually make sense in a real world environment.
If someone could provide some examples - realistic ones - of ways this could help usability and design, I'd be glad to hear it. From what I've seen so far, though, it seems just like a nifty idea with no practical value.
Seriously, is it *that* slow of a news day? This hack is neither well-implemented nor does it have any real use. The example the author mentioned doesn't even make sense, because links are not, and never were, supposed to work like that - they don't make sense for multiple targets, as that is a page design decision, not a DOM decision. This so-called multi-linking is silly, semantically nonsensical, and simply adds bloat to otherwise clear pages.
I think it should be fairly obvious that whatever they claim, they did something illegal. Add to that the fact that they did it months ago and no-one found out until now, and their claim is suspect even more.
Why is it that they had the sense to break into this system, but not to tell the administrators beforehand? If they were trying to show vulnerability, that means they had a little bit of common sense, right? Why not enough to figure out that doing it without permission won't get them anywhere good?
Interesting idea, but what if they took it farther? Google has shown themselves to be more than capable when dealing with cross-browser, intuitive interfaces.
Imagine that sort of application, for enterprise, but add on to it. What else do they need? Calendaring? Task management? Google could, conceivably, create a slick and attractive interface for the management of all of those necessary corporate/business functions.
I mean, it's not that much of a stretch - Yahoo! has their calendar, but what does Google have? More importantly, why don't they have something yet? I'd be willing to bet you'll see something that integrates all of their services in a concrete manner soon, and from their it'll just be another step to packaging it up and selling it as an application.
This articles exist because it's sort of an American ideal to be good at everything, and also because America has been a global superpower for a long time.
Moreover, the gist of this article doesn't mean that the U.S. is going to suddenly become irrelevant - it means that the U.S. isn't as technologically advanced in certain areas as other, seemingly weaker countries. And that the U.S. is falling behind, as well, which is certainly something to note.
Ooh, thanks for the tip. I think it would be nice to be able to customize your results like that automatically - something that Google could certainly do themselves. Of course, it would be the work of a few short minutes of FF extension as well.
I just think it's amusing that the people who actually intend to do this sort of thing think that their silly little random words scrawled on things are somehow inherently 'better' than a kid tagging his name.
Newsflash, morons, no-one is going to pick up on this. The majority of people are going to say, "Hey, look at that annoying, stupid, and obscure graffiti!"
Also, way to go flamebait on the title; there is a lot of worthwhile and interesting graffiti out there. It's not just about stupid kids marking their territory, you know. This is, in fact, less art than most of the graffiti that I pay attention to in my city.
What the fuck is wrong with people? Honestly, did they even read Ender's Game? It's not just some action movie with kids, you know. Well, at least I can get disappointed early.
When is it ever a good idea to directly post a link to a 17mB file to any high-traffic website? Either this guy has never heard of /., or he's really just out to destroy those servers.
Pretty cool video, though. I still like the Honda ad more.
Good point, but I don't really think that the book is trying to say that playing games will make you some sort of ultra-desirable commodity. Rather, it's pointing out the potential assets that growing up solving problems that are routinely seen in video games can give someone.
Obviously, if you can't communicate effectively you won't succeed, but knowing that maybe 0.1% of the time you spend playing video games could be seen as developing your abilities, well, that puts a different spin on how you look at it.
this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view, but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside.
This does not make any sense. At all. What language was this translated from, exactly?
Anyways, I always liked the little daemon. It's cute, and it has a very indy feel to it - of course, I guess that's what they're trying to get away from.
He's Wil Wheaton, so obviously his only choice would be his own OS.
What OS are you running under? I've just upgraded from a Graphire 2 to an Intuos 3, mostly for size reasons, and I feel that the software is perfect. It's small, doesn't get in the way, and lets me change basically any feature of my tablet.
Which model do you have? Get an Intuos 3 - they're a fucking wonderful piece of equipment, haven't had a single problem with mine.
I would love to have something like that to learn about the basics of computing, mostly because I got my start with high-level software. Like a sibling post said, the knowledge isn't necessary, but it could definitely be useful.
I started getting into computers when I was around 13 as well - however that was only two years ago. My knowledge is limited to mostly high-level languages and the like.
I've only had one problem upgrading, and that was from 0.7 to 0.8. So far, my only problem is that it claims there are updates available when there are in fact none. Plus, the preview release seems to be very good about checking your plugins and updating them.
While your site may not be tech-oriented, I'd be willing to bet that your sampling of users isn't accurate at all. For one, your site appears to be advertising a browser-based civilization game, which is not something the average user would be likely to participate in. The more technically adept users and the geeks would fall into your site's user category, I would guess.
That's ridiculous. That's like saying just because the cows can't defeat us in combat means they deserve to be killed, or the trees because they're defenseless, too. Just because people are stupid gives you no right to abuse them. That's why we've evolved towards a more humanitarian form of government, in case you didn't know.
Seriously, do you actually believe what you wrote?
Don't take my words out of context. I'm all for Linux being easier to install - hell, I'm for all software being easier to install -, but as it is, Firefox is pretty fucking simple. It doesn't take any command line, unpack, make install or anything of that nature. You might have to download a new binary, a new 5mB binary. Not a big deal.
I do think, however, that a better installer could be developed that had universal application. But then, people don't think "Hey, I'm going to make a revolutionary installer!", do they?
I think you missed the point of my post. Libraries are fine and dandy, but they won't make you an entire game physics engine - that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the actual application, not just the references that it has. In my eyes, using a library is a great idea - but I'm not going to make my game from just libraries.
I don't have anything against building off of others' work - far from it, I'd advocate that. I just think that I tend to prefer creating the glue or framework of an application myself. Obviously a commercial video game is a completely different setting, but I think that certain comparisons could be made. Again, I'm not saying the way they are currently doing it is the best way, I'm just saying why I think they might be doing it, per-programmer.
I should also note that I'm nothing like a professional programmer, so my thoughts on the matter don't necessarily pertain. Fifteen years-old and only a couple of them with any programming at all.
I can't say I think that's really a problem. I mean, I had to do it when upgrading from 0.8 to 0.9, but since then I just over-install.
Plus, it's a five meg download (at 300-500kB, no less), and bookmarks stay through versions, no matter what (in my experience, obviously).
Get over it, honestly. If you don't want to upgrade, that's fine - don't. While I do understand why you would want a better installer, that isn't the central point of a browser. Firefox consistently delivers an excellent browsing experience, and that's what they promise - not an excellent install.
Dragon Age is, probably, but remember that Atari owns the rights to NWN - not Bioware. I doubt Bioware really wanted to do this; if they did, you'd expect that they would develop it, wouldn't you?