Thats it? Thats the gui? It looks like a 5 year old Blackbox theme, or something I could do with a VisualStype today. And that is supposed to require DX9 capable video cards?
Ditto for Apple who is also going to leverage 3D cards for meaningless eye candy.
Don't forget that although sexual feelings are normal, the porn industry, especially the nastier internet side, thrives by exploiting and prostituting people. Hardly anyone "wants" to be the "amateur" of the day being abused in one of the millions of two-bit clips being produced every day.
The prOn industry does not operate for the best interests of its low level employees. It doesn't have anything to do with religion, the industry as a whole exploits and debases its workers.
Google is probably more invasive than Yahoo! And certainly more sophisticated about violating your privacy. Once Gmail accounts become common, they will become a spammer to be reckoned with.
The sad fact is that I just want a search engine. I don't want "directed marketing" spyware or behavior tracking.
Google is replaceable. If they were gone tomorrow, I'd just use something else. That fact makes me very wary of Google's stock valuation.
Thats odd, my XPSP2 laptop can be directly connected to the internet for weeks and used for general purpose surfing, and nada gets on my machine.
Some holes are closed by SP2 others by some settings gleaned from SANS, NIST, and NSA security whitepapers. Topped off with some decent anti spyware, anti virus and IPS/IDS software. Wisely choosing what emails NOT to open (of the spam that actually gets thru the several layers of spam control in place). That's all, and I don't see anything like the problems the media reports about XP.
Granted, the whole world will have to move to multicore processors or cell processors just to have enough power to run all of this protection while still having a responsive system, lol.
I've been an Apple user since the Apple II back in the Day. They have always marketed the image the company and the customers as open, free thinkers, and iconoclasts. The reality is that Apple is one of the most closed proprietary companies around. As Apple moves closer to being an entertainment company, I expect the trend will get worse.
They seek to have total control over their platform and how the users use that platform. Sueing their fansites is exactly the behavior I would expect from Apple.
It is ironic that Apple used 1984 themes in their first Mac ad since Apple revels in "thought" control.
Intel and AMD have hit the clockspeed Wall. How then do they market new product?
Instead of growing up they grow out and market the heck out of dual core technology to hype up new consumer sales. Neither gives a flip if consumer software takes any advantage of dual core. It's there for "new and improved" because "new and improved" is marketable.
If dual core were sooooo wonderful for consumers, then every enthusiast desktop would already be a dual CPU rig. My 6lb laptop runs Doom3 and Farcry very well. I have a hard time justifying buying a noisy, hot, power hungry desktop just for gaming performance gains I may not even notice.
And if the Cell Processor lives up to its hype, Intel and AMD are obsolete anyway.
That said dual core is huge for the data center. More performance per watt to allow greater cpu densitity per square foot of raised floor space and every amp.
Once Gates and the old monopolist guard at MS leaves, MS will either kill linux or embrace and extend it. Currently, with their focus on bundling, tie-ins, and other tools to force users to buy MS, they are missing the opportunity to make people WANT to buy microsoft.
A new generation of management would be about to embrace open source and find the best mix of proprietary, OSS, and services to leverage MS's market share with an "I want that" product line to decimate the competition.
Take Apple, arguably one of the most proprietary and closed companies around. They have mastered the art of leveraging OSS (and the sweat of others), blending it with non-standard proprietary software, and bundling it with "I want that" proprietary hardware. Combine that ability with MS's current market share and nothing could beat it.
There is absolutely nothing preventing MS from pulling out the NT kernel and replacing it with a linux or mach kernel and topping it with a Longhorn or OSX Tiger type of proprietary presentation layer.
I count 3 fans on the rear chassis, 2 fans on the CPU cooling system, and a final fan on the graphics card.
My experience with SFF chassis is that they tend to accentuate noise levels since they typically sit on the desk near the user, and with that many fans in the chassis, this puppy should sound like a freight train after a few months of use.
Remember that? The logic of all of the Info Super Hi-way rhetoric lead to a federal program to build network infrastructure. Sadly, that appears to have been too "hard" for a government that prefers symbols over substance and considered talking about it "good enough".
The fact is that for the 21st century, national network infrastructure will be just as important as the physical highway system was in the 20th century. The US is a "knowledge" economy after all.
Granted it is much easier for S Korea to build out their networks than it is for the US. Korea is 85% urban and much much smaller than most US states. And by relying on commercial business to wire the country, the US ended up with gluts of fiber in urban centers and not enough longhaul and rural fiber.
If the US wants to compete with lower cost offshore firms then the US needs to provide infrastructure for knowledge firms to relocate to lower cost regions of the US. There are a lot of them.
C'mon. Linux is more securable than Windows. More options, more things to lock down, and more access to the kernel to create hardened installations (ie the NSA kernel).
Windows is easier to secure than Linux. It takes the length of a reboot to install a high security INF from NSA, NIST, SANS or other security site. Lack of access to internals limit the ability of most users to really tweak its security.
Both OS's need to be installed, patched and hardened prior to network connection. Both OS's need competent administrators or all bets are off.
Windows is more susceptable to malware/virus attack, but as Linux installations gain marketshare they will get hit as well. Thats a fact of life.
The fact is that the world is populated my animals that exhale C02 and is powered by combustion of fuels that use carbon and oxygen to provide resources necessary to feed 6-8 billion people and untold billions of domestic animals. Greenhouse effects are a logical result of the way the planet works and the number of mammals on it (cram 5 people in a car on a cold day and see how warm it gets for a simple example).
If humans can even reverse grenhouse processes, which I doubt, there are going to be some radical questions to be answered:
- who gets their standard of living reduced to pre-industrial levels?
-How do you reduce the human population of the planet below 4 billion?
-How do you feed the existing population when Kyoto rules drive down the agricultural efficiency of the nations that produce 80% of the world's food? (this could be the answer to the previous question)
-How do you relocate populations out of ecologically damaging cities and spread them over a wider area to reduce environmental impact?
-How do you get the environmentalists to allow Nuclear energy to replace fossil fuels? (world energy requirements grow every year, it has to come from somewhere).
-How do you measure the environmental impact of industrialism relative to the production of environmentally friendly products? Example, the industrial infrastructure necessary to produce a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is just as damaging as that needed to produce a fossil fuel vehicle. The process of building a computer and all of its parts is one of the most environmentally damaging around, even though the end product seems rather tame.
I guess the big question is who gets to be forced into 3rd world subsistance conditions (or forced to stay there) and who gets to stay inside the limo?
I see Google as one of the most worrisome longterm threats to the internet, and the "$20 per month" content fee comment is exactly why. I think Google intents to be the conduit through which every user accesses data over the internet with plans to profit by charging subscription fees, selling marketing data and doing targeted advertising.
Personally I see Google as a bigger threat than MS. MS sells a product which you can use or not use. Google plans on control of information.
Then again the Union of Concerned Scientists has a very outspoken agenda, and generally colors all of its statements based on that.
I'd take this with a grain of salt.
Give me working fullfeatured video drivers from more than a ONE video card vendor, and native access to games and I'll drop my windows box. The last Nvidia card I tried sounded like a leaf blower. I took it back and went ATI who promptly decided to release terrible Linux drivers.
Along with that, give me native support for broadcom wirelss chipsets (gack I hate the NDIS wrapper).
Reality is that new GPU's from Nvidia and ATI are larger and more powerful than existing AMD and Intel CPUs (albiet at the cost of being less general purpose). for instance, the latest ATI chip has a cpu, fpu, mmu, and 12 vector pipelines. The pipelines are fully programable.
Thats a lot of power going to waste when not playing games. Longhorn will require and use it for the GUI. OSX Aqua uses it for the GUI, and now this app uses it for 3D processing and for the applicaiton interface.
IMO, its time to reverse designing a system. The motherboard needs to be the video card and the CPU needs to be on an expansion card with a HT pipe into video memory.
Kudos to the local goverment for taking a forward looking step. IMO, fiber to the every residence in poor, low income or less developed areas of the US should be a primary government concern on par with the national highway system.
Shame on Bellsouth for not getting there first, but I would not have expected them to. Their zeal is pushing DSL to every slick is severely lacking.
Amen. My old athlon 1.6Ghz has a 80mm heatsink fan, and 2x120mm case fans which were rather quiet when I build the system but are terribly loud now. My video card is the worst offender with its little high rpm screamer of a fan.
I'm not interested in the cost and complexity of a watercooled solution.
Looking at the heat metrics of current P4 prescott and AMD64 chips (74w-140w), no end seems to be in sight.
My next "desktop" is going to be a cool, quiet pentium M laptop or SFF pentium M.
I do not have a positive view of the future of "media centers". DRM and content restrictions will make them no fun, and legal pressure will impede the market.
Eventually, these items will become proprietary appliances. Loser? Both Media Center and the World.
I'm seriously thinking about a Pentium-M for my next homebuild for one reason: QUIET. I've had it with multiple fans, massive heatsinks and the noise from top of the line amd/intel chips.
The P-M would be a perfect chip for a media center or SFF gaming rig. 95% of the performance of an AMD 55FX or P4 3.6 at half the cost and 20% the heat is nothing to sneeze at. And that running with slow ram and agp 4x. Last time I checked a 55FX as $800ish, a P4 3.4EE or 3.8 was $700ish, and the 2Ghz P-M is only $400ish.
And Anand is missing one fact on the compiler front. GCC may not have great P-M support, but Intel gives away their optimizing compiler for Linux.
Given the heat characteristics of the Pentium M, Intel could likely put 4 on a die for the same heat cost as a dual core Prescott or a dual core AMD64. It remains to be seen if they can overcome their Hubris and give the Isreali chip team the ball.
They provide specific Linux kernel numbers for the 5.7 million lines of kernel code.
Then they reference 20 million lines of code for Windows. Is that all kernel? Microkernal+HAL? Entire OS? No specific number of bugs listed.
Then they reference "commercial software" bug rates per 100,000 lines of code as if a bug in my rss reader app is as important as a bug in the kernel. They no effort to state which types of code deserve higher qa and which do not.
What's up with the movie industry these days?
The second cut at a movie is usually not as good, and I cannot imagine that Depp will come close to Gene Wilder.
Its a small matter. Experience and the ability to document and prove that experience is key. Heck, I'm a BA in History and have worked in IT for 15 years.
"...wrong when an incompatible system was downloaded on to the whole network."
That sounds amazingly like operator error to me. Exactly how is that Microsoft's fault?
I get sort of tired of the rote "Its MS's fault" arguments. The majority of issues I see at MS sites are the result of operator error or companies not spending the money needed to manage their systems according to best practices. The same goes for Linux, Solaris, and AIX.
The catch is that unix engineers and admins are generally more experienced, higher skilled and higher salaried than most windows administrators. But where I find a highly skilled windows staff, what they are able to accomplish and the level of stability is very impressive.
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Thats it? Thats the gui? It looks like a 5 year old Blackbox theme, or something I could do with a VisualStype today. And that is supposed to require DX9 capable video cards?
Ditto for Apple who is also going to leverage 3D cards for meaningless eye candy.
Fast searching? Ummm. Thats soooo 1980's.
Hmmm. Remove the video player then complain when videos don't play when they are embedded in other applicaitons?
That is exactly what I would expect to happen if you pull the software that plays videos.
Don't forget that although sexual feelings are normal, the porn industry, especially the nastier internet side, thrives by exploiting and prostituting people. Hardly anyone "wants" to be the "amateur" of the day being abused in one of the millions of two-bit clips being produced every day.
The prOn industry does not operate for the best interests of its low level employees. It doesn't have anything to do with religion, the industry as a whole exploits and debases its workers.
Google is probably more invasive than Yahoo! And certainly more sophisticated about violating your privacy. Once Gmail accounts become common, they will become a spammer to be reckoned with.
The sad fact is that I just want a search engine. I don't want "directed marketing" spyware or behavior tracking.
Google is replaceable. If they were gone tomorrow, I'd just use something else. That fact makes me very wary of Google's stock valuation.
Thats odd, my XPSP2 laptop can be directly connected to the internet for weeks and used for general purpose surfing, and nada gets on my machine.
Some holes are closed by SP2 others by some settings gleaned from SANS, NIST, and NSA security whitepapers. Topped off with some decent anti spyware, anti virus and IPS/IDS software. Wisely choosing what emails NOT to open (of the spam that actually gets thru the several layers of spam control in place). That's all, and I don't see anything like the problems the media reports about XP.
Granted, the whole world will have to move to multicore processors or cell processors just to have enough power to run all of this protection while still having a responsive system, lol.
I've been an Apple user since the Apple II back in the Day. They have always marketed the image the company and the customers as open, free thinkers, and iconoclasts. The reality is that Apple is one of the most closed proprietary companies around. As Apple moves closer to being an entertainment company, I expect the trend will get worse.
They seek to have total control over their platform and how the users use that platform. Sueing their fansites is exactly the behavior I would expect from Apple.
It is ironic that Apple used 1984 themes in their first Mac ad since Apple revels in "thought" control.
Intel and AMD have hit the clockspeed Wall. How then do they market new product?
Instead of growing up they grow out and market the heck out of dual core technology to hype up new consumer sales. Neither gives a flip if consumer software takes any advantage of dual core. It's there for "new and improved" because "new and improved" is marketable.
If dual core were sooooo wonderful for consumers, then every enthusiast desktop would already be a dual CPU rig. My 6lb laptop runs Doom3 and Farcry very well. I have a hard time justifying buying a noisy, hot, power hungry desktop just for gaming performance gains I may not even notice.
And if the Cell Processor lives up to its hype, Intel and AMD are obsolete anyway.
That said dual core is huge for the data center. More performance per watt to allow greater cpu densitity per square foot of raised floor space and every amp.
Once Gates and the old monopolist guard at MS leaves, MS will either kill linux or embrace and extend it. Currently, with their focus on bundling, tie-ins, and other tools to force users to buy MS, they are missing the opportunity to make people WANT to buy microsoft.
A new generation of management would be about to embrace open source and find the best mix of proprietary, OSS, and services to leverage MS's market share with an "I want that" product line to decimate the competition.
Take Apple, arguably one of the most proprietary and closed companies around. They have mastered the art of leveraging OSS (and the sweat of others), blending it with non-standard proprietary software, and bundling it with "I want that" proprietary hardware. Combine that ability with MS's current market share and nothing could beat it.
There is absolutely nothing preventing MS from pulling out the NT kernel and replacing it with a linux or mach kernel and topping it with a Longhorn or OSX Tiger type of proprietary presentation layer.
Bah, Windows has three video cards to write too, Nvidia and ATI and Intel's onboard DX9 915 chipset.
Apple has Nvidia and ATI.
Linux by default has Nvidia since ATI's driver support is so horrendous.
I don't see any other companies making new video chipsets these days.
I count 3 fans on the rear chassis, 2 fans on the CPU cooling system, and a final fan on the graphics card.
My experience with SFF chassis is that they tend to accentuate noise levels since they typically sit on the desk near the user, and with that many fans in the chassis, this puppy should sound like a freight train after a few months of use.
Remember that? The logic of all of the Info Super Hi-way rhetoric lead to a federal program to build network infrastructure. Sadly, that appears to have been too "hard" for a government that prefers symbols over substance and considered talking about it "good enough". The fact is that for the 21st century, national network infrastructure will be just as important as the physical highway system was in the 20th century. The US is a "knowledge" economy after all. Granted it is much easier for S Korea to build out their networks than it is for the US. Korea is 85% urban and much much smaller than most US states. And by relying on commercial business to wire the country, the US ended up with gluts of fiber in urban centers and not enough longhaul and rural fiber. If the US wants to compete with lower cost offshore firms then the US needs to provide infrastructure for knowledge firms to relocate to lower cost regions of the US. There are a lot of them.
C'mon. Linux is more securable than Windows. More options, more things to lock down, and more access to the kernel to create hardened installations (ie the NSA kernel).
Windows is easier to secure than Linux. It takes the length of a reboot to install a high security INF from NSA, NIST, SANS or other security site. Lack of access to internals limit the ability of most users to really tweak its security.
Both OS's need to be installed, patched and hardened prior to network connection. Both OS's need competent administrators or all bets are off.
Windows is more susceptable to malware/virus attack, but as Linux installations gain marketshare they will get hit as well. Thats a fact of life.
That is the question.
The fact is that the world is populated my animals that exhale C02 and is powered by combustion of fuels that use carbon and oxygen to provide resources necessary to feed 6-8 billion people and untold billions of domestic animals. Greenhouse effects are a logical result of the way the planet works and the number of mammals on it (cram 5 people in a car on a cold day and see how warm it gets for a simple example).
If humans can even reverse grenhouse processes, which I doubt, there are going to be some radical questions to be answered:
- who gets their standard of living reduced to pre-industrial levels?
-How do you reduce the human population of the planet below 4 billion?
-How do you feed the existing population when Kyoto rules drive down the agricultural efficiency of the nations that produce 80% of the world's food? (this could be the answer to the previous question)
-How do you relocate populations out of ecologically damaging cities and spread them over a wider area to reduce environmental impact?
-How do you get the environmentalists to allow Nuclear energy to replace fossil fuels? (world energy requirements grow every year, it has to come from somewhere).
-How do you measure the environmental impact of industrialism relative to the production of environmentally friendly products? Example, the industrial infrastructure necessary to produce a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is just as damaging as that needed to produce a fossil fuel vehicle. The process of building a computer and all of its parts is one of the most environmentally damaging around, even though the end product seems rather tame.
I guess the big question is who gets to be forced into 3rd world subsistance conditions (or forced to stay there) and who gets to stay inside the limo?
I see Google as one of the most worrisome longterm threats to the internet, and the "$20 per month" content fee comment is exactly why. I think Google intents to be the conduit through which every user accesses data over the internet with plans to profit by charging subscription fees, selling marketing data and doing targeted advertising.
Personally I see Google as a bigger threat than MS. MS sells a product which you can use or not use. Google plans on control of information.
The whole thing leaves a bad taste.
Then again the Union of Concerned Scientists has a very outspoken agenda, and generally colors all of its statements based on that. I'd take this with a grain of salt.
Give me working fullfeatured video drivers from more than a ONE video card vendor, and native access to games and I'll drop my windows box. The last Nvidia card I tried sounded like a leaf blower. I took it back and went ATI who promptly decided to release terrible Linux drivers.
Along with that, give me native support for broadcom wirelss chipsets (gack I hate the NDIS wrapper).
Reality is that new GPU's from Nvidia and ATI are larger and more powerful than existing AMD and Intel CPUs (albiet at the cost of being less general purpose). for instance, the latest ATI chip has a cpu, fpu, mmu, and 12 vector pipelines. The pipelines are fully programable.
Thats a lot of power going to waste when not playing games. Longhorn will require and use it for the GUI. OSX Aqua uses it for the GUI, and now this app uses it for 3D processing and for the applicaiton interface.
IMO, its time to reverse designing a system. The motherboard needs to be the video card and the CPU needs to be on an expansion card with a HT pipe into video memory.
Kudos to the local goverment for taking a forward looking step. IMO, fiber to the every residence in poor, low income or less developed areas of the US should be a primary government concern on par with the national highway system.
Shame on Bellsouth for not getting there first, but I would not have expected them to. Their zeal is pushing DSL to every slick is severely lacking.
Amen. My old athlon 1.6Ghz has a 80mm heatsink fan, and 2x120mm case fans which were rather quiet when I build the system but are terribly loud now. My video card is the worst offender with its little high rpm screamer of a fan.
I'm not interested in the cost and complexity of a watercooled solution.
Looking at the heat metrics of current P4 prescott and AMD64 chips (74w-140w), no end seems to be in sight.
My next "desktop" is going to be a cool, quiet pentium M laptop or SFF pentium M.
I do not have a positive view of the future of "media centers". DRM and content restrictions will make them no fun, and legal pressure will impede the market.
Eventually, these items will become proprietary appliances. Loser? Both Media Center and the World.
I'm seriously thinking about a Pentium-M for my next homebuild for one reason: QUIET. I've had it with multiple fans, massive heatsinks and the noise from top of the line amd/intel chips.
The P-M would be a perfect chip for a media center or SFF gaming rig. 95% of the performance of an AMD 55FX or P4 3.6 at half the cost and 20% the heat is nothing to sneeze at. And that running with slow ram and agp 4x. Last time I checked a 55FX as $800ish, a P4 3.4EE or 3.8 was $700ish, and the 2Ghz P-M is only $400ish.
And Anand is missing one fact on the compiler front. GCC may not have great P-M support, but Intel gives away their optimizing compiler for Linux.
Given the heat characteristics of the Pentium M, Intel could likely put 4 on a die for the same heat cost as a dual core Prescott or a dual core AMD64. It remains to be seen if they can overcome their Hubris and give the Isreali chip team the ball.
They provide specific Linux kernel numbers for the 5.7 million lines of kernel code.
Then they reference 20 million lines of code for Windows. Is that all kernel? Microkernal+HAL? Entire OS? No specific number of bugs listed.
Then they reference "commercial software" bug rates per 100,000 lines of code as if a bug in my rss reader app is as important as a bug in the kernel. They no effort to state which types of code deserve higher qa and which do not.
All in all a non-story.
What's up with the movie industry these days? The second cut at a movie is usually not as good, and I cannot imagine that Depp will come close to Gene Wilder.
Its a small matter. Experience and the ability to document and prove that experience is key. Heck, I'm a BA in History and have worked in IT for 15 years.
"...wrong when an incompatible system was downloaded on to the whole network."
That sounds amazingly like operator error to me. Exactly how is that Microsoft's fault?
I get sort of tired of the rote "Its MS's fault" arguments. The majority of issues I see at MS sites are the result of operator error or companies not spending the money needed to manage their systems according to best practices. The same goes for Linux, Solaris, and AIX.
The catch is that unix engineers and admins are generally more experienced, higher skilled and higher salaried than most windows administrators. But where I find a highly skilled windows staff, what they are able to accomplish and the level of stability is very impressive.