If you look at the man's business history, you'll note that he had an oil company that exclusively drilled where there was no oil in Texas. said company was called 'Arbusto', which is, in the words of our Fearless Leader, "Mexican for Bush"
His complaint with rpm has to do with its internal package database and the oddball nature of dependencies in an rpm. You can run into some really interesting problems with package dependencies -- for example, compiling a dependency from source. Yes, libxyz.so is installed, but since it wasn't installed from another rpm, every rpm package that you try to install that depends on libxyz is going to complain. I know that caused me many a headache in the past, and I know about --force and --nodeps (now, at least), but it really is a bit of a pain in the ass.
Besides, have you ever downloaded an rpm and found out it was for the wrong rpm based distro? almost as painful.
basically, the dean doesn't like redhat, isn't fond of rpms, and doesn't want the perceived support headache involved.
I seem to recall seeing a similar problem listed in some Windows documentation -- that the time_t values would roll over in 2038. Presumably, OS X has a similar problem... I look forward to it happening, because it will end the argument of OS superiority...
Well, some of the potshots seem to be justified -- false claims of feature support, for example. Hopefully, the next version of opera for mac will fix some of the worst offenses.
Anyway, I kind of like the Bork edition for windows... it adds quite a bit of entertainment value to the msn site. For example:
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Hell, my dating history is the source of my paranoia, depression, and anxiety!
It also helps if you have a basic idea of what's encrypted, ie what kind of plaintext message you're dealing with. A.doc has a different signature than a jpeg or flat ascii or html, etc. some encryption software relies on headers or footers to the encrypted data in order to sanity check for decryption. again, look also at the medium that the message is transmitted through -- tcp/ip traffic to port 443 speaks volumes about what algorithms are being used. transmissions received in the 2.4 Ghz wavelength also speaks volumes about what algorithms you may be dealing with. finally, never trust the developer to do the 'right thing' with algorithmic selection -- look at adobe's algorithm selection for its ebooks. look for a pattern in what you're dealing with. it can't hurt to generate a dictionary of known ciphertext file patterns a la the *nix 'file' command. lacking a certain amount of information about what you're dealing with(message length, source of the ciphertext, etc), though, you're SOL.
anyway, I haven't had to deal with much of the kind of encryption that protects data from a government, mostly just the kind that delays your kid sister, so ymmvg...
well, my point was that back in the bad old days, getting a vendor patch for desktop software was just a bit more difficult than it is now. The support for workstations and mainframes was also a bit different. I'm told that the customers used to get magnetic tapes on a semiregular basis...
ok, back in 1995, the internet wasn't exactly burgeoning. Patches and bugfixes were not being released by vendors on their company websites because most companies didn't really have a website to speak of, and web pages really weren't that pretty, since netscape was a fresh product, IIRC, having recently been ported to Windows 3.x and MacOS.
My point here is that for your average desktop computer, support for software didn't exist the way it does now. I feel like an old fogey when I say this, but when I was a kid, you had to buy version 6.2 of DOS to get the bug fixes for DOS 6.1....
btw, sorry about ham-handing the keyboard there, didn't hit tab enough when I went to preview... flame away...
ok, back in 1995, the internet wasn't exactly burgeoning. Patches and bugfixes were not being released by vendors on their company websites because most companies didn't really have a website to speak of, and web pages really weren't that pretty, since netscape was a fresh product, IIRC, having recently been ported to Windows 3.x and MacOS.
My point here is that for your average desktop computer, support for software didn't exist the way it does now. I feel like an old fogey when I say this, but
I was really only dealing with grammar and spelling (which, if it were done to every post here on/., would be a cleaning of the stables I wouldn't wish on anybody). Matrices, incidentally, get useful when doing 3-D graphical transformations, such as in OpenGL or D3D coding...
In any case, you're right, Joe Sixpack really doesn't need much more than high school algebra and maybe a little basic geometry to get by.
Placing quotes around something only makes you look like a "sarcastic bastard", and doesn't really help to make your point
after running the oritinal quote through my home-brewed sarcasm filter, I got:
Placing "quotes" around "something" only makes you "look" like a "sarcastic" "bastard", and doesn't really "help" to make your "point"
No offense intended, just a weak attempt at humor a little more congruent with the master flame baiter's post...
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You forgot a few things that you have earned through the Corps: a sense of purpose, sense of duty, self respect... I could go on. Your rate of promotion strongly suggests that you are not only proficient in your job, but successful in the completion of your assignments.
I'm currently working to rectify my mistakes in my personal definition of success. I think I was a much more successful person while I was serving on active federal service, in spite of being salaried to a pay grade that virtually guaranteed that I'd never become a millionaire. At least I didn't feel that my motivations were completely absurd, which is how I feel about the rat race...
That being said, I think I'll try to resist the urge to flame the bejeezus out of the AC who tried to draw a parallel between a United States Marine LCPL and Nazis, and instead file that comment away as proof that just because someone has the freedom of speech doesn't mean that they have anything meaningful to say...
Excellent point. I can tell you that there's a lot of little insignificant looking crap that various government agencies cannot do without. Electronic SF-86's (security clearance paperwork), rare oddball little supply utils, etc., etc. In all fairness to NASA, I remember reading on/. quite a while back that they wouldn't use Windows for the ISS docking systems(they used a RedHat 5.2 for a base and wrote the program in C, installed it on a Thinkpad). Emulation is, unfortunately, a very necessary evil where these apps are concerned. Unless, of course, NASA engineers can not only rewrite all of the programs without violating the licenses that said programs were sold to the government under, but also get the rewrites approved for use...
take the ASVAB (if you haven't already), and like this guy says check with the navy. or USAF. and I don't think you would be a good candidate for squeezing your head into a jar.
Incidentally, MOS 74B (computer support specialist) was on the stop-loss list earlier this year. You'd think they'd still have a shortage... makes me wonder if you were talking to a recruiter or a MEPS guy...
I think you have it backwards. IIRC, httpd was originally written by NCSA at the University of Illinois at Urbana, on some flavor or another of BSD or SYSV Unix (BSD, if I remember right...), and is older than NT3.1, at least for purposes of availability. Apache is the end result of a bunch of server admins patching the NCSA sources after NCSA quit supporting httpd (A Patchy Web Server).
The concept of the GUI (and the mouse, for that matter) date back to Xerox PARC in 1975. Incidentally, that was the same time MSwas founded. IIRC, they were selling a BASIC interpreter for some architecture or another of Intel 8008 or 8080 (anybody know the answer to that one?), probably for PL/1, out of Albuquerque, NM. Apple released the first real GUI desktop machine with the LISA in 1983. Windows 1.0 was released around '85 or '86 (the "look-and-feel" suit of Apple vs. MS was basically tossed out because Apple's UI was too close to the PARC Star UI).
As far as invention and innovation go, look to Universities and pure R&D shops. Don't look to Microsoft, unless you want accounting and marketing innovation. DOS has a rather interesting history, as does IE, at least as far as the licensing deals go.
"Do you want to live in a world where things like the GUI, 3D graphics, wordprocessing, webserving, and other commercial products were never developed?"
Most, if not all, of these technologies, originated either on pure proprietary platforms, long since extinct, or on some flavor or another of unix. Word processing in its most raw form has existed since computing cycles became cheap enough for it to be practical. 3D really took off with SGI IRIX and SGI GL, and moreso with OpenGL. In all fairness, MS did join the OpenGL steering council, but they needed to find a way to get around the limitations of the Windows GDI under NT 3.1 so that they could go after the CAD/engineering market.
I will credit you with your point about the arrogance, and to a lesser degree, the "chasing taillights" syndrome. Many people will not try something presented to them with the "[insert commercial product here] Killer" as the main advertising point.
I seem to recall a few months ago, during the trademark infringement suit, that the judge presiding had made some sort of preliminary judgement to the effect that the Windows trademark had already been diluted, since every Tom, Dick, and Harry software publisher had been using the term Windows in their company and product name. Anybody have any more info on this?
These guys are fishing for small guys to roast in order to set court precedents. Talk to a lawyer and transfer all media via FTP (goes back a lot further than their patent.
Also, I would recommend talking to MS, Real, et al. since, sooner or later, since they are providing the products that infringe on the patents, they are very likely going to be pulled in to court sooner or later. Last I checked, if Ford infringes on GM's patents, Ford is the party that is supposed to get sued, not the consumer driving an Escort...
Call me crazy, but Corporations are permitted much of the same legal protections as individuals (IIRC, at least in the US, YMMV). Shouldn't they be expected to behave with some sense of responsibility for their actions?
Yes, I know about "responsibility to shareholders" and all of that mess. Mod me down for naivete, I deserve it for the above statement. What I should have said was "Corporations are given MORE legal protections than individuals..."
OK, I see a lot of responses to this post starting off with UCMJ, and I haven't had enough time to read all of them. They're probably going to say something similar...
In any case, when a soldier/sailor/airman/marine receives gov't housing/special pays for housing, they have to basically sign a contract that permits their chain of command to inspect their housing at any time for reasons of health and welfare. On top of that, MP's are legally permitted entry to ANY housing on post, at any time (some restrictions apply, odds to win are posted on our website...). Realistically, neither the chain of command nor the MP's are overly willing to take the heat from abusing these responsibilities (IG complaints from health and welfare inspections at 3 in the morning, 4 days a week WILL get the company CO and 1SG in hot water, just like an MP private deciding to check the post Commanding General's quarters for contraband wouldn't fly too far...)
It all comes down to the basic fact that military personnel give up many rights and live with restrictions on most of the others. About the only right that isn't abridged to some degree or another is the right to vote. As for the other rights that avg. joe citizen takes for granted:
the right to assemble peacefully: you can do so as long as 1) you are not absent from your place of duty, 2) you are not assembling with a group that advocates things like violent overthrow of the government, supremacy, etc.
Freedom of Speech: Off duty, out of uniform, and don't say anything that would bring disgrace on yourself, your service, or your government. If you have a clearance, don't talk about anything classified. If there's a criminal investigation going on that you're not directly involved in, don't talk about it unless someone else talks about it first, and don't disclose anything that could impede the investigation. If it's someone from the media, and they want something 'on the record', the best guidance available is to direct them to Civil Affairs and RUN!!!
Right to bear arms: If it's a firearm, it WILL be registered with the MP garrison. If you're single, ALL weapons will be kept in your unit's arms room.
I could go on, but like I said, military personnel don't have the same rights/privileges as the average citizen (Read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu if you can't understand why). Give them your respect and support, and if the gov't chooses to start a war for the wrong reasons, take it out (verbally/with votes) on congress and the president. Aside from that, try to learn about the rights that they're attempting to protect with their service.
Hey, I used to think the same way. Somehow, the greater good of OSS advocacy/in-house development didn't do a damn thing to buy my wife or kids groceries after I got canned...
I beg to differ. I've worked places that frown on OSS development, even on personal time (although the owner thought that MRTG was built by a company called Global Village. Needless to say, this was a strict NT shop...) Anyway, his concern may well be legitimate. The best guidance I can give you is to talk to two types of legal weasel: the employment kind, and the copyright kind. If you can deal with only one, more power to you, but you should definitely consider solid legal counsel.
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If you look at the man's business history, you'll note that he had an oil company that exclusively drilled where there was no oil in Texas. said company was called 'Arbusto', which is, in the words of our Fearless Leader, "Mexican for Bush"
His complaint with rpm has to do with its internal package database and the oddball nature of dependencies in an rpm. You can run into some really interesting problems with package dependencies -- for example, compiling a dependency from source. Yes, libxyz.so is installed, but since it wasn't installed from another rpm, every rpm package that you try to install that depends on libxyz is going to complain. I know that caused me many a headache in the past, and I know about --force and --nodeps (now, at least), but it really is a bit of a pain in the ass.
Besides, have you ever downloaded an rpm and found out it was for the wrong rpm based distro? almost as painful.
basically, the dean doesn't like redhat, isn't fond of rpms, and doesn't want the perceived support headache involved.
and the problem gets conveniently delayed by reimplementing time_t as an unsigned 32 bit integer, by the way...
I seem to recall seeing a similar problem listed in some Windows documentation -- that the time_t values would roll over in 2038. Presumably, OS X has a similar problem... I look forward to it happening, because it will end the argument of OS superiority...
if i had mod points, this would be +1 insightful/+1 flamebait, if for nothing else than the bertrand russell quote...
Anyway, I kind of like the Bork edition for windows... it adds quite a bit of entertainment value to the msn site. For example:
Hell, my dating history is the source of my paranoia, depression, and anxiety!
It also helps if you have a basic idea of what's encrypted, ie what kind of plaintext message you're dealing with. A .doc has a different signature than a jpeg or flat ascii or html, etc. some encryption software relies on headers or footers to the encrypted data in order to sanity check for decryption. again, look also at the medium that the message is transmitted through -- tcp/ip traffic to port 443 speaks volumes about what algorithms are being used. transmissions received in the 2.4 Ghz wavelength also speaks volumes about what algorithms you may be dealing with. finally, never trust the developer to do the 'right thing' with algorithmic selection -- look at adobe's algorithm selection for its ebooks. look for a pattern in what you're dealing with. it can't hurt to generate a dictionary of known ciphertext file patterns a la the *nix 'file' command. lacking a certain amount of information about what you're dealing with(message length, source of the ciphertext, etc), though, you're SOL.
anyway, I haven't had to deal with much of the kind of encryption that protects data from a government, mostly just the kind that delays your kid sister, so ymmvg...
well, my point was that back in the bad old days, getting a vendor patch for desktop software was just a bit more difficult than it is now. The support for workstations and mainframes was also a bit different. I'm told that the customers used to get magnetic tapes on a semiregular basis...
ok, back in 1995, the internet wasn't exactly burgeoning. Patches and bugfixes were not being released by vendors on their company websites because most companies didn't really have a website to speak of, and web pages really weren't that pretty, since netscape was a fresh product, IIRC, having recently been ported to Windows 3.x and MacOS.
My point here is that for your average desktop computer, support for software didn't exist the way it does now. I feel like an old fogey when I say this, but when I was a kid, you had to buy version 6.2 of DOS to get the bug fixes for DOS 6.1....
btw, sorry about ham-handing the keyboard there, didn't hit tab enough when I went to preview... flame away...
ok, back in 1995, the internet wasn't exactly burgeoning. Patches and bugfixes were not being released by vendors on their company websites because most companies didn't really have a website to speak of, and web pages really weren't that pretty, since netscape was a fresh product, IIRC, having recently been ported to Windows 3.x and MacOS.
My point here is that for your average desktop computer, support for software didn't exist the way it does now. I feel like an old fogey when I say this, but
I agree... check the thermostat in hell, boys. we've had a relatively insightful posting on /.!!!
I was really only dealing with grammar and spelling (which, if it were done to every post here on /., would be a cleaning of the stables I wouldn't wish on anybody). Matrices, incidentally, get useful when doing 3-D graphical transformations, such as in OpenGL or D3D coding...
In any case, you're right, Joe Sixpack really doesn't need much more than high school algebra and maybe a little basic geometry to get by.
Matrices is how I always saw it in math classes...
You wrote:
after running the oritinal quote through my home-brewed sarcasm filter, I got:
No offense intended, just a weak attempt at humor a little more congruent with the master flame baiter's post...
You forgot a few things that you have earned through the Corps: a sense of purpose, sense of duty, self respect... I could go on. Your rate of promotion strongly suggests that you are not only proficient in your job, but successful in the completion of your assignments.
I'm currently working to rectify my mistakes in my personal definition of success. I think I was a much more successful person while I was serving on active federal service, in spite of being salaried to a pay grade that virtually guaranteed that I'd never become a millionaire. At least I didn't feel that my motivations were completely absurd, which is how I feel about the rat race...
That being said, I think I'll try to resist the urge to flame the bejeezus out of the AC who tried to draw a parallel between a United States Marine LCPL and Nazis, and instead file that comment away as proof that just because someone has the freedom of speech doesn't mean that they have anything meaningful to say...
Excellent point. I can tell you that there's a lot of little insignificant looking crap that various government agencies cannot do without. Electronic SF-86's (security clearance paperwork), rare oddball little supply utils, etc., etc. In all fairness to NASA, I remember reading on /. quite a while back that they wouldn't use Windows for the ISS docking systems(they used a RedHat 5.2 for a base and wrote the program in C, installed it on a Thinkpad). Emulation is, unfortunately, a very necessary evil where these apps are concerned. Unless, of course, NASA engineers can not only rewrite all of the programs without violating the licenses that said programs were sold to the government under, but also get the rewrites approved for use...
take the ASVAB (if you haven't already), and like this guy says check with the navy. or USAF. and I don't think you would be a good candidate for squeezing your head into a jar.
Incidentally, MOS 74B (computer support specialist) was on the stop-loss list earlier this year. You'd think they'd still have a shortage... makes me wonder if you were talking to a recruiter or a MEPS guy...
I think you have it backwards. IIRC, httpd was originally written by NCSA at the University of Illinois at Urbana, on some flavor or another of BSD or SYSV Unix (BSD, if I remember right...), and is older than NT3.1, at least for purposes of availability. Apache is the end result of a bunch of server admins patching the NCSA sources after NCSA quit supporting httpd (A Patchy Web Server).
The concept of the GUI (and the mouse, for that matter) date back to Xerox PARC in 1975. Incidentally, that was the same time MSwas founded. IIRC, they were selling a BASIC interpreter for some architecture or another of Intel 8008 or 8080 (anybody know the answer to that one?), probably for PL/1, out of Albuquerque, NM. Apple released the first real GUI desktop machine with the LISA in 1983. Windows 1.0 was released around '85 or '86 (the "look-and-feel" suit of Apple vs. MS was basically tossed out because Apple's UI was too close to the PARC Star UI).
As far as invention and innovation go, look to Universities and pure R&D shops. Don't look to Microsoft, unless you want accounting and marketing innovation. DOS has a rather interesting history, as does IE, at least as far as the licensing deals go.
Most, if not all, of these technologies, originated either on pure proprietary platforms, long since extinct, or on some flavor or another of unix. Word processing in its most raw form has existed since computing cycles became cheap enough for it to be practical. 3D really took off with SGI IRIX and SGI GL, and moreso with OpenGL. In all fairness, MS did join the OpenGL steering council, but they needed to find a way to get around the limitations of the Windows GDI under NT 3.1 so that they could go after the CAD/engineering market.
I will credit you with your point about the arrogance, and to a lesser degree, the "chasing taillights" syndrome. Many people will not try something presented to them with the "[insert commercial product here] Killer" as the main advertising point.
I seem to recall a few months ago, during the trademark infringement suit, that the judge presiding had made some sort of preliminary judgement to the effect that the Windows trademark had already been diluted, since every Tom, Dick, and Harry software publisher had been using the term Windows in their company and product name. Anybody have any more info on this?
These guys are fishing for small guys to roast in order to set court precedents. Talk to a lawyer and transfer all media via FTP (goes back a lot further than their patent.
Also, I would recommend talking to MS, Real, et al. since, sooner or later, since they are providing the products that infringe on the patents, they are very likely going to be pulled in to court sooner or later. Last I checked, if Ford infringes on GM's patents, Ford is the party that is supposed to get sued, not the consumer driving an Escort...
just my 2/100($1.00)
Call me crazy, but Corporations are permitted much of the same legal protections as individuals (IIRC, at least in the US, YMMV). Shouldn't they be expected to behave with some sense of responsibility for their actions?
Yes, I know about "responsibility to shareholders" and all of that mess. Mod me down for naivete, I deserve it for the above statement. What I should have said was "Corporations are given MORE legal protections than individuals..."
OK, I see a lot of responses to this post starting off with UCMJ, and I haven't had enough time to read all of them. They're probably going to say something similar...
In any case, when a soldier/sailor/airman/marine receives gov't housing/special pays for housing, they have to basically sign a contract that permits their chain of command to inspect their housing at any time for reasons of health and welfare. On top of that, MP's are legally permitted entry to ANY housing on post, at any time (some restrictions apply, odds to win are posted on our website...). Realistically, neither the chain of command nor the MP's are overly willing to take the heat from abusing these responsibilities (IG complaints from health and welfare inspections at 3 in the morning, 4 days a week WILL get the company CO and 1SG in hot water, just like an MP private deciding to check the post Commanding General's quarters for contraband wouldn't fly too far...)
It all comes down to the basic fact that military personnel give up many rights and live with restrictions on most of the others. About the only right that isn't abridged to some degree or another is the right to vote. As for the other rights that avg. joe citizen takes for granted:
I could go on, but like I said, military personnel don't have the same rights/privileges as the average citizen (Read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu if you can't understand why). Give them your respect and support, and if the gov't chooses to start a war for the wrong reasons, take it out (verbally/with votes) on congress and the president. Aside from that, try to learn about the rights that they're attempting to protect with their service.
Hey, I used to think the same way. Somehow, the greater good of OSS advocacy/in-house development didn't do a damn thing to buy my wife or kids groceries after I got canned...
I beg to differ. I've worked places that frown on OSS development, even on personal time (although the owner thought that MRTG was built by a company called Global Village. Needless to say, this was a strict NT shop...) Anyway, his concern may well be legitimate. The best guidance I can give you is to talk to two types of legal weasel: the employment kind, and the copyright kind. If you can deal with only one, more power to you, but you should definitely consider solid legal counsel.