I agree. I am not a fan of IE (being a web developer by profession, IE is a pet hate), however the reason is clear.
Beta means not for mass release, so it's going to need some polish to speed up and remove debugging symbols or whatever
Also all this sand-boxing tabs is going to have a memory and process overhead. However this is the security model.. seperated process for tabs is more secure, but it's going to use more processes.. duh..
Of course what will happen to a private civilian with no backup or weapons of any sort trying to stop or ticket some 250lb drunk lout with attitude chucking his beer can over a fence is anyones guess...
With this being britain, I think you'll find it's a 17st 12lb drunk lout with attitude.
Virgin media is an ethernet based cable connection. I have *never* ran windows (or mac) behind a Virgin media/Telewest connection. All ISPs *need* to support routers, thus not specific os.
Even without a router, this is DHCP-- plug straight into a linux box (or any other box for that matter) and it will obtain an IP and be on the net.
They may well provide a helpful install CD, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination a requirement, its just something to help old people feel comfortable about the process.
You need to build this into the flash when creating as far as I know. With html based sites no special work is required to make a page bookmarkable (aside from some ajax stuff, or in-page anchors).
I would welcome this if it is clear that it's flash content (like PDFs) in the search results, so I can make a judgment accordingly.
I think that there's a big difference between a school protecting it's assets and those items which it allows to connect to it's own network, vs everything being reported to Microsoft.
The laptop reports to the school (and they're the purchasers of the product, or at least their education system), not to the makers of the XO. This is no different than a company installing software to ensure security of their own laptops etc..
Might I suggest that we all blog the term People Ready Business, and link it to www.ubuntu.com or our www.apple.com our our favourite decent provider of software, and someone who deserves the publicity. A bit like all the tags for VISTA on amazon marking it as DRM Filled, Buggy, Bad Vista etc..
Here Here. The arguments are Scientifically Futile. Science can never disprove the SuperNatual (spiritual stuff), by definition, Science examines the Natural World, and defines Laws, Theories etc.. The Super-Natural by definition excedes the Natural World.
In otherwords Science can't disprove God, as he exists in the Super-natural realm. Science can't disprove Creation, because Creation happened outside the Natural World (before in fact, as it Creation was the creation of the Natural World)
Because the BBC is the British Broadcasting Corporation. They're funded by our license fee and produce content for the uk. The US doesn't come into it. Hey, great if they can sell their productions on to the US for re-broadcast (which they have, so more funding comes their way).
Who cares if some US geeks have torrented it, they're not making it to get prophit (theoretically) they're doing it to produce quality television for the UK public. As soon as they start having to try and pander to prophit, the whole point of the BBC is missed. They'd just churn out a million "I'm a Celebraty..." programmes (although there has been one or two this year).
So are you saying that IRAN/China should Nuke America before they nuke them?
Pre-emptive is a big problem, because if you go pre-emptive, then so will them, then you pre-empt that, then they pre-empt that, until basically you need to nuke them tomorrow before they nuke you in 100 years.
The only possible outcome is death for whoever the US feels might be a problem in general.
Looks like we're set for another stupid situation like in the 60s - Hey wasn't that you guys (US) again?
How poorly you grasp the consequence of open. Yes a 14 year old may well be someone who fixes problems, but by the nature of the licence he is not the only one who is able to. They are not relying purely upon a 14 year old, or a bulletin board, or whatever. They are free to purchase support contracts from companies who are qualified in maintaining this. This sort of support is usually paid anyway in large organisations, they just don't have to purchase licences and new versions of software simply because the developers want more money.
The important thing about the Free is the "Speech" not the "Beer" aspect. Free, open, anyone can use, non-restrictive software is better for everyone. If people want to pay for it, and pay for support, great, support helps keep people fed.
quite right. I manage my web this way. I put browser windows on different virtual desktops for the different browser based tasks I do, then tabs within for parts of that task in each of those browsers.
Who said that tab browsing and windows can be used at the same time? That's why they're so great.
In firefox this becomes even easier for stuff like reading my web-mail or whatever because when you bookmark you can bookmark all tabs in a folder, and then in that folder click "open all in tabs".
One of the first things I do when I log in is fire up firefox and then click on the "Mail" folder and open all in tabs and instantly load all my web-mail accounts.
By far my most used reason for tabs though is in something like google or slashdot, where there may be several links that I want to look at, but not immediatley, I want to continue working with this page, so good old middle click on those links, then I can review them when I'm done selecting what links interest me.
actually vnc is able to do the whole sharing the user's desktop not just creating a second one. So it does more on linux than on windows, as it can share your desktop or create another xsession for you to connect to.
Gnome has built in support, through vino, to share your desktop through vnc, connecting to xxx.xxx:0 just like on windows, so it's possible to remotely help another user in the same way as on windows.
I always thought this was the point of the tabs. The task bar now separates "Tasks" i.e. "Tasks I am doing, like writing documents, browsing the internet, listening to music".
Now I switch between those tasks. If I want to reference a page while I write a document the ALT-TAB still works, so I can jump back and forth. Then if I want to reference another web page, I switch my task over to "browsing the web" find the tab (sub-task) in the browser window and the ALT-TAB back to the document to continue.
Clear separation of user's view of tasks (things I have to do) rather than the os view of tasks (processes I am running).
Now contrast that to having 20 browser windows, 4 documents and a media player. All of a sudden I can't see the wood for the trees.
I think it's naive to think that MS is getting in too late. You see there may well be tons of terminal service projects out there, all working fantastic, but as MS writes the Server and is now writing the Client, all it takes is a little "innovation"(TM).
MS basically add "new and improved" features to server and client making it impossible to use ltsp clients with them, which are apparently impossible to live without (thanks to marketing), and all these new clients will be subject to that old chestnut Vendor Locking (Patent Pending).
Tyrannical? I'm sorry but the Law is the Law, and Microsoft have broke it in a place where they wish to do business. They have the option to obey the law and do business or not do business at all.
The fine is becasue they are not obeying the law still. So how is this abusing Microsoft? They're making a big deal about legality of software and media and patents etc.. They can't want the law in one case and not in the other.
By far the biggest problem they have is how to fix this without breaking their massive installed client-base. That is where I think things get interesting.
I don't think this is a major problem. MSN are always breaking compatability, they force their uses to upgrade all the time. No bigee on their front to alter the protocol by which the tunes are transfered.
The many document and articles covering this topic provide many answers to this:
control of keys/trust is squarly in the hands of the vendors (hardware, software and media). This can include the users to a certain extent (this is how they're trying to sell it as a Good Thing(TM)) So a company can enforce this within their network using their own trust verifying server (Windows Trust Server 2010?).
User override/extent: I understand that their is feasbly the opportunity to check at hardware level and refuse to boot an OS even using this system. At other levels it has been claimed that the overriding could be user settable, but in the override mode their would be no access to the "Trusted" items/software/data, and in the Trusted Mode, there would be no access to the "Un-Trusted" items/software/data.
The upshot is that the Trust is clearly a matter of whether your Software/Hardware/Media Vendor trust your computer and what is on it. On top of that their is some agreed to right (EULA) for them to address this as they see fit (i.e. delete stuff off your PC).
didn't the bbc block non-uk or US sites during the olympics because of deals in different countries. Surely they could do that again, so only UK Licence payers could get it.. perhaps even using the Licence number to access that data?
I can see where they are coming from with this. I think that there are good reasons for this. There should not be an extra tax per-se, but the TV Licence to cover computers too would be a good thing overall. There may well be people who have computers and no TV, so that's increased revenue. If the BBC recieved revenue from another stream then their production will have to reflect that too.
Ultimately this means that for my TV License fee the BBC will have to provide internet streams of those programs in a free and open way (ala direc codec?). This is pretty good, the BBC already make most stuff available (Radio) for the week after broadcast, and have some channels internet streamed (News 24), so a license fee would likely bring more of this.
I pay for the BBC already, so expanding it to my computer (where I actually access it most) is fine by me.
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IANAL but is it possible that if you passed it to a third party who was not under the NDA that you'd be breaching the NDA?
I agree. I am not a fan of IE (being a web developer by profession, IE is a pet hate), however the reason is clear.
Beta means not for mass release, so it's going to need some polish to speed up and remove debugging symbols or whatever
Also all this sand-boxing tabs is going to have a memory and process overhead. However this is the security model.. seperated process for tabs is more secure, but it's going to use more processes.. duh..
Of course what will happen to a private civilian with no backup or weapons of any sort trying to stop or ticket some 250lb drunk lout with attitude chucking his beer can over a fence is anyones guess...
With this being britain, I think you'll find it's a 17st 12lb drunk lout with attitude.
Erm.. If its a linux box, you can't format c:.. There is no c:, perhaps you mean /dev/sda1?
Virgin media is an ethernet based cable connection. I have *never* ran windows (or mac) behind a Virgin media/Telewest connection. All ISPs *need* to support routers, thus not specific os.
Even without a router, this is DHCP-- plug straight into a linux box (or any other box for that matter) and it will obtain an IP and be on the net.
They may well provide a helpful install CD, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination a requirement, its just something to help old people feel comfortable about the process.
Erm.. YSYRTSIYTIIIYPA (You Say You're Refusing To Say IANAL Yet There It Is In Your Post Anyways)
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Any webserver (apache) we have setup logs IP addresses automatically. It's standard stuff, not google being evil.
You need to build this into the flash when creating as far as I know. With html based sites no special work is required to make a page bookmarkable (aside from some ajax stuff, or in-page anchors).
I would welcome this if it is clear that it's flash content (like PDFs) in the search results, so I can make a judgment accordingly.
I think that there's a big difference between a school protecting it's assets and those items which it allows to connect to it's own network, vs everything being reported to Microsoft. The laptop reports to the school (and they're the purchasers of the product, or at least their education system), not to the makers of the XO. This is no different than a company installing software to ensure security of their own laptops etc..
Might I suggest that we all blog the term People Ready Business, and link it to www.ubuntu.com or our www.apple.com our our favourite decent provider of software, and someone who deserves the publicity. A bit like all the tags for VISTA on amazon marking it as DRM Filled, Buggy, Bad Vista etc..
I didn't think that Leonard Nimoy was "late", wikipedia and imdb make no mention of it.
Has this just happened, or are you personally aquainted with said gentleman and simply lamenting his constant tardiness?
Here Here. The arguments are Scientifically Futile. Science can never disprove the SuperNatual (spiritual stuff), by definition, Science examines the Natural World, and defines Laws, Theories etc.. The Super-Natural by definition excedes the Natural World.
In otherwords Science can't disprove God, as he exists in the Super-natural realm. Science can't disprove Creation, because Creation happened outside the Natural World (before in fact, as it Creation was the creation of the Natural World)
Because the BBC is the British Broadcasting Corporation. They're funded by our license fee and produce content for the uk. The US doesn't come into it. Hey, great if they can sell their productions on to the US for re-broadcast (which they have, so more funding comes their way).
Who cares if some US geeks have torrented it, they're not making it to get prophit (theoretically) they're doing it to produce quality television for the UK public. As soon as they start having to try and pander to prophit, the whole point of the BBC is missed. They'd just churn out a million "I'm a Celebraty..." programmes (although there has been one or two this year).
So are you saying that IRAN/China should Nuke America before they nuke them?
Pre-emptive is a big problem, because if you go pre-emptive, then so will them, then you pre-empt that, then they pre-empt that, until basically you need to nuke them tomorrow before they nuke you in 100 years.
The only possible outcome is death for whoever the US feels might be a problem in general.
Looks like we're set for another stupid situation like in the 60s - Hey wasn't that you guys (US) again?
How poorly you grasp the consequence of open. Yes a 14 year old may well be someone who fixes problems, but by the nature of the licence he is not the only one who is able to. They are not relying purely upon a 14 year old, or a bulletin board, or whatever. They are free to purchase support contracts from companies who are qualified in maintaining this. This sort of support is usually paid anyway in large organisations, they just don't have to purchase licences and new versions of software simply because the developers want more money.
The important thing about the Free is the "Speech" not the "Beer" aspect. Free, open, anyone can use, non-restrictive software is better for everyone. If people want to pay for it, and pay for support, great, support helps keep people fed.
quite right. I manage my web this way. I put browser windows on different virtual desktops for the different browser based tasks I do, then tabs within for parts of that task in each of those browsers.
Who said that tab browsing and windows can be used at the same time? That's why they're so great.
In firefox this becomes even easier for stuff like reading my web-mail or whatever because when you bookmark you can bookmark all tabs in a folder, and then in that folder click "open all in tabs".
One of the first things I do when I log in is fire up firefox and then click on the "Mail" folder and open all in tabs and instantly load all my web-mail accounts.
By far my most used reason for tabs though is in something like google or slashdot, where there may be several links that I want to look at, but not immediatley, I want to continue working with this page, so good old middle click on those links, then I can review them when I'm done selecting what links interest me.
actually vnc is able to do the whole sharing the user's desktop not just creating a second one. So it does more on linux than on windows, as it can share your desktop or create another xsession for you to connect to.
Gnome has built in support, through vino, to share your desktop through vnc, connecting to xxx.xxx:0 just like on windows, so it's possible to remotely help another user in the same way as on windows.
I always thought this was the point of the tabs. The task bar now separates "Tasks" i.e. "Tasks I am doing, like writing documents, browsing the internet, listening to music".
Now I switch between those tasks. If I want to reference a page while I write a document the ALT-TAB still works, so I can jump back and forth. Then if I want to reference another web page, I switch my task over to "browsing the web" find the tab (sub-task) in the browser window and the ALT-TAB back to the document to continue.
Clear separation of user's view of tasks (things I have to do) rather than the os view of tasks (processes I am running).
Now contrast that to having 20 browser windows, 4 documents and a media player. All of a sudden I can't see the wood for the trees.
I think it's naive to think that MS is getting in too late. You see there may well be tons of terminal service projects out there, all working fantastic, but as MS writes the Server and is now writing the Client, all it takes is a little "innovation"(TM).
MS basically add "new and improved" features to server and client making it impossible to use ltsp clients with them, which are apparently impossible to live without (thanks to marketing), and all these new clients will be subject to that old chestnut Vendor Locking (Patent Pending).
which is the reason we all get spam and worms still isn't it!
Tyrannical? I'm sorry but the Law is the Law, and Microsoft have broke it in a place where they wish to do business. They have the option to obey the law and do business or not do business at all.
The fine is becasue they are not obeying the law still. So how is this abusing Microsoft? They're making a big deal about legality of software and media and patents etc.. They can't want the law in one case and not in the other.
By far the biggest problem they have is how to fix this without breaking their massive installed client-base. That is where I think things get interesting.
I don't think this is a major problem. MSN are always breaking compatability, they force their uses to upgrade all the time. No bigee on their front to alter the protocol by which the tunes are transfered.
The many document and articles covering this topic provide many answers to this:
control of keys/trust is squarly in the hands of the vendors (hardware, software and media). This can include the users to a certain extent (this is how they're trying to sell it as a Good Thing(TM)) So a company can enforce this within their network using their own trust verifying server (Windows Trust Server 2010?).
User override/extent: I understand that their is feasbly the opportunity to check at hardware level and refuse to boot an OS even using this system. At other levels it has been claimed that the overriding could be user settable, but in the override mode their would be no access to the "Trusted" items/software/data, and in the Trusted Mode, there would be no access to the "Un-Trusted" items/software/data.
The upshot is that the Trust is clearly a matter of whether your Software/Hardware/Media Vendor trust your computer and what is on it. On top of that their is some agreed to right (EULA) for them to address this as they see fit (i.e. delete stuff off your PC).
didn't the bbc block non-uk or US sites during the olympics because of deals in different countries. Surely they could do that again, so only UK Licence payers could get it.. perhaps even using the Licence number to access that data?
I can see where they are coming from with this. I think that there are good reasons for this. There should not be an extra tax per-se, but the TV Licence to cover computers too would be a good thing overall. There may well be people who have computers and no TV, so that's increased revenue. If the BBC recieved revenue from another stream then their production will have to reflect that too.
Ultimately this means that for my TV License fee the BBC will have to provide internet streams of those programs in a free and open way (ala direc codec?). This is pretty good, the BBC already make most stuff available (Radio) for the week after broadcast, and have some channels internet streamed (News 24), so a license fee would likely bring more of this.
I pay for the BBC already, so expanding it to my computer (where I actually access it most) is fine by me.