Excuse my french but this is a whole load of bull, no company is this stupid that they would think they can create a business model based on blocking traffic over the internet.
The internet was designed to survive and maintain its function after a nuclear attack, I think it can survive anything AT&T, comcast or any other company out there can throw at it.
On another point these companies are all US companies, the internet is a little bigger now than just the US.
Well.... Steve Jobs is not just on the board of Disney... he's now the largest stock holder. I saw a TV interview with disney's CEO Robert Iger and Steve Jobs, if that interview is anything to go by Jobs is going to have a major input on how Disney is going to be run from this day forward, Mr Iger actually looked quite uncomfortable in the interview when jobs began to speak... and speak.... and then speak some more.
What I find most incredible about all of this is not that this company won't release the data.... it's that a private company has any control over this data at all....
What country on this planet has privatised it's electoral process ?
Are you guys completely out of your minds ?
Electoral systems are often facilitated by private companies e.g the printing ballot sheets, the making of booths etc... but the actual process of counting votes, that should never be the responsibility of anything other than a independent public body, the privatisation of such a thing to me is horrifying, especially in a country that dominates the world.
There is no possible way an electoral process under these circumstances could be described as OPEN, free and fair. To quote Thomas Jefferson "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"... well I'd say the whole vigilance thing went out the window round about the time MTV first went to air.
Gates has already dismissed mp3 players and ipods as a passing fad.
I have to agree with him on this... I play mp3's through my Imate SP3 phone which has a 1 gig Mini-SD ram card. It's smaller and more light weight than an ipod, the sound quality is fantastic, plus it also acts as my organiser and mobile phone... all for about the same price as the cheapest ipod. Pretty much all new mobile phones will offer this same functionality, where does this leave the ipod ? Nowhere is the answer.
I really can't see the value in buying an ipod today. From what I've seen personally people buying these things today are doing it as a prententious fashion statement more than anything else. Which by definition would make gates absolutely right on this one.
If rascism means business wanting a pretty first world face to front up for a third world development team. Then the answer would be yes, I have experienced it.
I don't believe there's any real rascism, other than a general preconception that if you were born in India, Pakistan, Africa, or some post soviet country, that you'll accept anywhere between 1/10th to 1/2 what a first world developer would.
In time I believe this will all even out. Not that I believe the third world is going to be pulled up to first world standards, I just think business will continue to squeeze the labour market till we're all willing to work on the same basis.
I think it would be the alien organism in peril not us...
Earth organisms have had billions of years to evolve with billions of other organisms competing against them... Lining up an organism that has been floating round space with one from earth is most likely going to be like putting a featherweight up against a super heavy weight.
The story of a killer organism from outer space is only slightly less ridiculous than the story of superman.
I just think there's some people out there you, that no matter how much you may try, you just can't help, and you can be absolutely sure that these people are using Windows.
In short I think the most critical security issue with Windows is the poeple that use it.
I think GNUmeric is a stupid name for a spreadsheet.... it implies its only about numbers... You can do alot more with spreadsheet than just stick numbers in it.
I've seen spreadsheets used for recording all sorts of stuff.... time sheets.... project management.... calendars... todo lists... these aren't numbered related. A spreadsheet is just a document split into cells which can be related and given meaning... quite often their meaning is numeric but not always.
Also I think you need to be careful here, a spreadsheet package is for the business market and a package like photoshop is more of a consumer market product. The marketing needs for these products are totally different.
In this particular case I actually think Excel is a far better name than GNUmeric.... GNUmeric sounds like an infant's educational app...
I think this article, and the moderation of this comment basically highlights the fundamental floor with the whole open source movement's push to reach the mass market.... and that is these products simply aren't built from the ground up as commercial, market driven products. The people involved in these projects often have a complete disdain for marketing and commercialism and are in it to get away from such things.
exCEL
As in Cells... you know those square things you put numbers and formulaes and stuff into ?
I guess they just out clevered you with their marketing.....
You are entirely incorrect, you have not read the legislation or completely misunderstood it.
It's not about considering Open Source software... Government and educational institutions in SA are already completely entititled to do so and regularly do.
It's about legislating that Open Source Software MUST be used whenever it can be, unless it can be PROVED to be impractical.
The ISC is pointing out (and rightly so) that this legislation will effectively reduce choices available to government and educational institutions.
I think this bill is stupid too...
Why shouldn't they be allowed to use commercial software when they judge it to be in their best interests and worth the costs ?
I think Australia's situation is incomparable to any other countries, we have a population of less than 20 million and a land mass nearly the size of the US.
There's nothing stopping companies coming into Australia and rolling out a broadband network, in fact Optus has done just that (very limitedly). It's just not very profitable for a company to roll out a broadband network in Australia...
Economies of scale is the reason for the Australia's uncompetitive communications network.
Who knows where we'd be without Telstra which effectively is controlled by the government which has a 51% stake in the company. A good communications network makes a huge contribution to a countries economy, however it is only the government which has an interest in this, private companies do not.
*COUGH* umm... yes if you ignore the complete overhaul and rewrite of IIS - one their most bug riddled and important parts of their Server OS, it's a small step.
But how many people out there are using their server to supply Web Services or Web forms ?.... uuhhh hmmm yes most of them.
Windows 2003 Server represents a very major release. It's their first server which fully integrates the.NET framework.
IIS6.0 has very significant improvements that give a systems administrator full control over the security environment and processing environment of their Web applications.
These improvements will likely make IIS6.0 a much more stable and scalable solution than any of it's predecessors.
A good technique I've found is to simply keep questioning a path till that person realises that they're unable to answer some pretty fundamental questions on this issue, at that point they're ready to listen.
Sometimes though you're dealing with fundamental beliefs, in that case it may be that a person needs to live the mistake before those beliefs are altered. You can give advice and guidence, but there's only so much you can do, and you will come across those, that as much as you'd like to, they simply can't be helped.
More often than not decisions are not so black and white, in that instance I believe you should give advice, and if that advice is not taken if you feel stronly about then let it be known you think it's a mistake. I think arguing is pointless and that you're best stopping before the point where the exchange of information stops the arguing starts.
I think as a consultant you want to make sure that you're only involved with success stories. When you get to a point where you can see that a particular decision is likely to lead down a path that will result in failure, you're best off walking away.
This isn't about freedom of press it's about whether the internet is a resource for the planet or simply a resource for the USA.
If the attack has originated from the united states and the US to do nothing about this, it'll be yet another disappointing signal from the US. The USA is sending signals to the world that the land of the free is the good ol US of A.... everywhere else... well you dont really have a say.
This sort of thing is going to come back and backfire heavily. If we're to have a future at all it's one with an unparelled spirit of international co-operation. This attitude is not the way.
With the power the USA has, they have the ability to lead this planet, but not the power to dominate it.
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Mono does alot more than just ASP.NET it also does Windows Forms.NET and all the other essential class libraries. So.NET already has good coverage on the Linux platform.
Development of support for.NET on OS X is already underway so there's a likilhood.NET will soon offer cross platform solutions for Windows, Linux and Mac which is pretty much the entire desktop market.
An example of Microsoft's shared source is their release of the.NET CLI.
The CLI is the code for the.NET Virtual Machine. This is quite a big deal when you think about it as it is the base of most future windows development, providing a zero compile bridge between Win32 and Win64 OS and other platforms.
I think this article is a crock of *&*& I think large portions of Mac's traditional Market demographic are currently moving to windows in droves.
My father has been an avid Mac user for the past 20 years and in the last years he's acquired a laptop with Windows XP. He loves it. And whats more he hates OS-X and won't move to it from OS 9.0.
In the last few years I think Apple has a made a move away from their original user base and is now target the Open Source community for a new user base to carry them into the next millenia.
Indicators that they have made this move were the abandoning of the old OS for a system based on freebsd and their recent very impressive push into the server market supplying a highly extensible easily installable server system, clearly targeting Sun's Solaris market.
Why would Apple abandon it's desktop users pursue a line that puts them directly in competition with Sun ?.... Hmmmm oh yea thats Microsoft is the largest shareholder of apple.
You must have missed the part where it's mentioned Longhorn has a completely new file system based on SQL Server.
There's your innovation.
As for....
I would define ease of use the ability to quickly and easily get what you want done, regardless of skill level. One of the things that really irks me about Windows in general (and to a certain extent OS X) is that it is targeted so much at the ignorant user, that it is nothing but frustrating to me as someone who knows a little more.
It is true Windows out the box is designed to be as idiot proof as a computer operating system can be..... Pardon Microsoft for empowering the massess.
However it's also true that someone with some a reasonable skill level can easily customise the system and for someone with a high level of skill the system is completely hackable.
Thanks Charles for all your efforts I'm a strong believer in Karma and I do believe that if Microsoft doesn't appreciate all your positive efforts and energy you've put into ASPFriends, then some greater force out there will.
I for one can say I have benefited greatly from your site and have relied upon it heavily in the past year to get myself trained in.NET (just to stay employed in this highly competitive IT job market). I don't know where I'd be without it.
I do hope you consider some sort of subscription system that might help to keep the site running. However I could understand why you'd feel like chucking it in after the way you've been treated by Microsoft.
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Excuse my french but this is a whole load of bull, no company is this stupid that they would think they can create a business model based on blocking traffic over the internet.
The internet was designed to survive and maintain its function after a nuclear attack, I think it can survive anything AT&T, comcast or any other company out there can throw at it.
On another point these companies are all US companies, the internet is a little bigger now than just the US.
Well.... Steve Jobs is not just on the board of Disney... he's now the largest stock holder. I saw a TV interview with disney's CEO Robert Iger and Steve Jobs, if that interview is anything to go by Jobs is going to have a major input on how Disney is going to be run from this day forward, Mr Iger actually looked quite uncomfortable in the interview when jobs began to speak... and speak.... and then speak some more.
What I find most incredible about all of this is not that this company won't release the data.... it's that a private company has any control over this data at all....
What country on this planet has privatised it's electoral process ?
Are you guys completely out of your minds ?
Electoral systems are often facilitated by private companies e.g the printing ballot sheets, the making of booths etc... but the actual process of counting votes, that should never be the responsibility of anything other than a independent public body, the privatisation of such a thing to me is horrifying, especially in a country that dominates the world.
There is no possible way an electoral process under these circumstances could be described as OPEN, free and fair. To quote Thomas Jefferson "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"... well I'd say the whole vigilance thing went out the window round about the time MTV first went to air.
Gates has already dismissed mp3 players and ipods as a passing fad.
I have to agree with him on this... I play mp3's through my Imate SP3 phone which has a 1 gig Mini-SD ram card. It's smaller and more light weight than an ipod, the sound quality is fantastic, plus it also acts as my organiser and mobile phone... all for about the same price as the cheapest ipod. Pretty much all new mobile phones will offer this same functionality, where does this leave the ipod ? Nowhere is the answer.
I really can't see the value in buying an ipod today. From what I've seen personally people buying these things today are doing it as a prententious fashion statement more than anything else. Which by definition would make gates absolutely right on this one.
If rascism means business wanting a pretty first world face to front up for a third world development team. Then the answer would be yes, I have experienced it. I don't believe there's any real rascism, other than a general preconception that if you were born in India, Pakistan, Africa, or some post soviet country, that you'll accept anywhere between 1/10th to 1/2 what a first world developer would. In time I believe this will all even out. Not that I believe the third world is going to be pulled up to first world standards, I just think business will continue to squeeze the labour market till we're all willing to work on the same basis.
Nobody questions that Firefox is so far ahead of IE on security that the difference can be measured in red-shift
Nobody ?
I think many people would argue about the UK being a part of Europe... from both the east and west side of the channel.
The UK is very very very different from the rest of Europe... and after years of Thatcherism, can hardly be categorised as a socialist state.
Yes...
I think it would be the alien organism in peril not us...
Earth organisms have had billions of years to evolve with billions of other organisms competing against them... Lining up an organism that has been floating round space with one from earth is most likely going to be like putting a featherweight up against a super heavy weight.
The story of a killer organism from outer space is only slightly less ridiculous than the story of superman.
All true... But all these comments overlook one thing....
The US controls the GPS system.... at any stage they can take away access with a simple software upgrade.
Europe needs it's own GPS system for it's own security (independent of the US).
Given the recent US unilateristic political ideology it's pretty clear why Europe needs it's own GPS system.
I just think there's some people out there you, that no matter how much you may try, you just can't help, and you can be absolutely sure that these people are using Windows.
In short I think the most critical security issue with Windows is the poeple that use it.
P.S
I think GNUmeric is a stupid name for a spreadsheet.... it implies its only about numbers... You can do alot more with spreadsheet than just stick numbers in it.
I've seen spreadsheets used for recording all sorts of stuff.... time sheets.... project management.... calendars... todo lists... these aren't numbered related. A spreadsheet is just a document split into cells which can be related and given meaning... quite often their meaning is numeric but not always.
Also I think you need to be careful here, a spreadsheet package is for the business market and a package like photoshop is more of a consumer market product. The marketing needs for these products are totally different.
In this particular case I actually think Excel is a far better name than GNUmeric.... GNUmeric sounds like an infant's educational app...
I think this article, and the moderation of this comment basically highlights the fundamental floor with the whole open source movement's push to reach the mass market.... and that is these products simply aren't built from the ground up as commercial, market driven products. The people involved in these projects often have a complete disdain for marketing and commercialism and are in it to get away from such things.
exCEL As in Cells... you know those square things you put numbers and formulaes and stuff into ? I guess they just out clevered you with their marketing.....
Cocktails are often served in short round glasses....
Well... what a revelation....
I guess these guys didn't do this survey in Berlin where cocktails are usually served by the litre in the tallest widest glasses available....
You are entirely incorrect, you have not read the legislation or completely misunderstood it.
It's not about considering Open Source software... Government and educational institutions in SA are already completely entititled to do so and regularly do.
It's about legislating that Open Source Software MUST be used whenever it can be, unless it can be PROVED to be impractical.
The ISC is pointing out (and rightly so) that this legislation will effectively reduce choices available to government and educational institutions.
I think this bill is stupid too...
Why shouldn't they be allowed to use commercial software when they judge it to be in their best interests and worth the costs ?
I think Australia's situation is incomparable to any other countries, we have a population of less than 20 million and a land mass nearly the size of the US. There's nothing stopping companies coming into Australia and rolling out a broadband network, in fact Optus has done just that (very limitedly). It's just not very profitable for a company to roll out a broadband network in Australia... Economies of scale is the reason for the Australia's uncompetitive communications network. Who knows where we'd be without Telstra which effectively is controlled by the government which has a 51% stake in the company. A good communications network makes a huge contribution to a countries economy, however it is only the government which has an interest in this, private companies do not.
*COUGH* umm... yes if you ignore the complete overhaul and rewrite of IIS - one their most bug riddled and important parts of their Server OS, it's a small step.
.... uuhhh hmmm yes most of them.
.NET framework.
But how many people out there are using their server to supply Web Services or Web forms ?
Windows 2003 Server represents a very major release. It's their first server which fully integrates the
IIS6.0 has very significant improvements that give a systems administrator full control over the security environment and processing environment of their Web applications.
These improvements will likely make IIS6.0 a much more stable and scalable solution than any of it's predecessors.
A good technique I've found is to simply keep questioning a path till that person realises that they're unable to answer some pretty fundamental questions on this issue, at that point they're ready to listen.
Sometimes though you're dealing with fundamental beliefs, in that case it may be that a person needs to live the mistake before those beliefs are altered. You can give advice and guidence, but there's only so much you can do, and you will come across those, that as much as you'd like to, they simply can't be helped.
More often than not decisions are not so black and white, in that instance I believe you should give advice, and if that advice is not taken if you feel stronly about then let it be known you think it's a mistake. I think arguing is pointless and that you're best stopping before the point where the exchange of information stops the arguing starts.
I think as a consultant you want to make sure that you're only involved with success stories. When you get to a point where you can see that a particular decision is likely to lead down a path that will result in failure, you're best off walking away.
This isn't about freedom of press it's about whether the internet is a resource for the planet or simply a resource for the USA.
If the attack has originated from the united states and the US to do nothing about this, it'll be yet another disappointing signal from the US. The USA is sending signals to the world that the land of the free is the good ol US of A.... everywhere else... well you dont really have a say.
This sort of thing is going to come back and backfire heavily. If we're to have a future at all it's one with an unparelled spirit of international co-operation. This attitude is not the way.
With the power the USA has, they have the ability to lead this planet, but not the power to dominate it.
I would have thought it alot more going by my email accounts. I must be getting spam meant for someone else....
If anyone out there is getting less than 40% please email I'll forward you some of my surplus.
What about this pot ?
WOW a 2200 year old battery !!!
I wanna know more !
I request everyone not specifically talking about the foreverready batter be modded to -1. That way I can find the useful information about this fascinating pot
Mono does alot more than just ASP.NET it also does Windows Forms.NET and all the other essential class libraries. So .NET already has good coverage on the Linux platform.
Development of support for .NET on OS X is already underway so there's a likilhood .NET will soon offer cross platform solutions for Windows, Linux and Mac which is pretty much the entire desktop market.
An example of Microsoft's shared source is their release of the .NET CLI.
.NET Virtual Machine. This is quite a big deal when you think about it as it is the base of most future windows development, providing a zero compile bridge between Win32 and Win64 OS and other platforms.
The CLI is the code for the
I think this article is a crock of *&*& I think large portions of Mac's traditional Market demographic are currently moving to windows in droves.
My father has been an avid Mac user for the past 20 years and in the last years he's acquired a laptop with Windows XP. He loves it. And whats more he hates OS-X and won't move to it from OS 9.0.
In the last few years I think Apple has a made a move away from their original user base and is now target the Open Source community for a new user base to carry them into the next millenia.
Indicators that they have made this move were the abandoning of the old OS for a system based on freebsd and their recent very impressive push into the server market supplying a highly extensible easily installable server system, clearly targeting Sun's Solaris market.
Why would Apple abandon it's desktop users pursue a line that puts them directly in competition with Sun ?.... Hmmmm oh yea thats Microsoft is the largest shareholder of apple.
You must have missed the part where it's mentioned Longhorn has a completely new file system based on SQL Server.
There's your innovation.
As for....I would define ease of use the ability to quickly and easily get what you want done, regardless of skill level. One of the things that really irks me about Windows in general (and to a certain extent OS X) is that it is targeted so much at the ignorant user, that it is nothing but frustrating to me as someone who knows a little more.
It is true Windows out the box is designed to be as idiot proof as a computer operating system can be..... Pardon Microsoft for empowering the massess.
However it's also true that someone with some a reasonable skill level can easily customise the system and for someone with a high level of skill the system is completely hackable.
You're not a whinging pom by chance are you ?
Thanks Charles for all your efforts I'm a strong believer in Karma and I do believe that if Microsoft doesn't appreciate all your positive efforts and energy you've put into ASPFriends, then some greater force out there will.
.NET (just to stay employed in this highly competitive IT job market). I don't know where I'd be without it.
I for one can say I have benefited greatly from your site and have relied upon it heavily in the past year to get myself trained in
I do hope you consider some sort of subscription system that might help to keep the site running. However I could understand why you'd feel like chucking it in after the way you've been treated by Microsoft.