And you know, some of us are far more interested in "a free exchange of ideas and code that let you do what ever you wanted with it" than in some convulted ideology where "freedom" is redefined as something restrictive.
I see this all the time and you know what, Stallman used to be part of that exact same type of freedom in the 70's. Then the companies took the code(Unix), closed it up and shut everyone out. That's why he created the GPL and preaches his ideology.
> # Archival attributes: we will still be able to read in 100 years, but we might not be able to open DRM protected files.
I don't think the current books will last that long, actually. The paper is pretty cheap stuff. I like the idea of a device like a Kindle, I'd just want something more open to where I can transfer stuff around on it. That way when I buy a book, I can keep it around forever and move it from device to device.
Several years back I bought a video card from Best Buy only to have the wrong card in the box. Took it back and they wouldn't do an exchange, told me to deal with the manufacturer. After going back and forth between the manufacturer and Best Buy I even had the manager at Best Buy admiting it was problably tampered with at their store, but he still wouldn't exchange it.
So I disputed the charges and my bank reversed the payment.
Compatibility with new hardware is a big reason. The other reason is that the stable Ubuntus have much more recent software than the stable Debians. It's sort of a blessing and a curse though.
I run Debian on my personal server and love that it never changes, but at work I need to use Ubuntu for some of the more recent packages it comes with.
If I buy services from a company and they fail to deliver, I have choices. Like suing them (example: breach of contract) and recovering damages.
I'd love to see examples where this has actually happened. Commercial software companies fail to deliver at the time. It's routine. And yet it's always the admins and the users in the company that bought it that end up having to "pay" for it.
The biggest issue I'm having with rails is its lack of scaling due to a horrid threading model. We run mongrel, which can accept multiple requests per mongrel but only process one at a time due to Rails not being thread safe. So you end up having to run many many instances of mongrel on seperate ports to accept incoming requests. This wouldn't bo so bad, but the preferred methods of sending traffic to these mongrels(apache mod_proxy_balancer is what we use) have NO idea what the back end mongrels are doing. It'll happily send requests to busy mongrels when you have free ones doing absolutely nothing.
They only reason I'd want an iPod is because my car's stereo has an iPod connector(Toyota Scion). I don't know if other players out there have the same type of connector though. I'd definitely go with one of them over an iPod if they did.
The only difference between Sun, Apple and Microsoft is that Sun and Apple want to be as big as Microsoft, but aren't. None of them give a crap about the consumer and all are completely happy to walk over anyone/anything that gets in their way.
I'd sooner trust MS than Apple, because at least everyone hates MS, is looking over their shoulder and isn't giving them any leeway the moment some stench heads out from their corporate HQ.
1> Instancing of all areas, ala Guild Wars style. 2> Select your character, THEN choose your server, ala FPS game style.
You solve two issues, it's easier to scale up when your game gets popular(no character migrations off of heavy servers to deal with) and it's easy to scale down when the game starts to die off(no annoying server merges).
But on the downside you can't charge people $25 to move their character just so they can play with their friends.
And in the GPL version, the boy gave away the seeds but on the condition that people had to give away the seeds from their tree for free as well and pass on the same conditions.
The GPL camp takes code from the BSD camp and the BSD camp is not able to merge those changes back into BSD code.
And that's the inherant problem with the BSD license, people can mod your code and not give it back to you.
The complaint here is about the hypocrisy of the GPL camp, who claim that they don't want anyone to use their code without giving back the changes, but then turn around and do just that to the BSD people's code.
There's no hypocrisy in that. Anyone can use the changes that where GPL'd, but you just have to adhere to the GPL license for those changes. The hyprocisy is the BSD camp saying "be free to use our code any way you want" and when people take them up on the offer, they complain.
Whoever owns the software in order to protect their copyright claims. The Free Software Foundation recommends that GPL authors assign the copyright over to them, just for these reasons. They actively pursue copyright claims.
Who's going to pay for the lawyers to do so?
The FSF has lawyers on staff and people like me, who pay yearly dues to the FSF, pay for these lawyers.
Is there *any* money to be made? Even enough to pay for those lawyers?
No clue, but you could email the FSF to find out.
Are you just penalizing the "spirit" of the GPL by making it a legal battle rather than letting the code proliferate?
That's the point. The code here isn't proliferating. This is a corporate company distributing pirated software for their own gains. It'd be like Microsoft including Photoshop in Windows without paying licensing to Adobe.
The GPL isn't about free code, it's about keeping the code free.
The problem is that hardware manufacturers target Windows, so the support there is steller and it Linux is usually playing catchup. Though when the hardware is older, the support can actually be better than what Windows provides. I've seen more issues with installing Windows from scratch than with Linux.
Pre-installed Linux systems(like from Dell) solve this for now and if more companies do this you'll see better hardware support because manufacturers will target Linux to please companies like Dell.
I have mine setup to dual boot using boot camp. I'd like to eliminate OS X altogether though and I think people have found ways to use grub instead of boot camp. I gave up my 30in monitor before I had a chance to get Linux to work with it, but it should work on it fine using Xinerama. It'd take a bit of tweaking of the xorg.conf though, you won't be able to just plug it in and go with it yet.
Replication is a pretty big requirement for a lot of where MySQL is being used. I really haven't looked into PostgreSQL, have heard great things about it, but wouldn't consider it if I couldn't cluster it.
* Perfect desktop acceleration right out of the box with the user having to touch NOTHING to get it to work
Acceleration works perfectly right out of the box on any pre-install Linux hardware purchase, which is what Apple does. Force you to purchase the OS pre-installed on their hardware.
* Application packages in/Applications or something similar
My Applications are under the Appliactions menu, thank you. I don't have to bring up a 3rd application(Finder) to get to them.
* Full drag and drop application installation and removal
Synaptic is much superior to that. If I want Open Office I don't have to go to the Open Office website, find the download area, find the right version, click to download, click again to install, and then from there on keep doing the same for updates.
It's run Synaptic, search for office apps, find the one I want and click install. It'll even check for updates from them on without me having to even run Synaptic or Open Office itself.
* OS X level or font rendering support right out of the box
My fonts look as good on my Linux PC as on my Mac.
* Complete set of iApp replacements - same visual polish and features sets as Apple has - plug in a digital camera, it just works
Plugging in my digital camera "just works" under Linux. Beryl looks better than anything Mac currently has and Linux has had virtual desktop support in it for ages. I don't have to download a 3rd part app for it.
* And the thousands of other things that make buying a commercial desktop worth the money
How about 28,000 free software packages available in my software installer?
What's that Redhat? That would actually require work and lots of hard choices?
I'm forced to use a Mac for work and I've found the user experience to be lacking, has less of the type software I use and is much less compatible with
3rd party hardware. It's an OS with all the vendor lockin of Windows, with none of the benefits of having the entire software/hardware market targeting it.
How many people say, from France/Germany, actually travel outside of Europe? Does it make Europeans sheltered if they don't visit Africa, Asia or the Americas?
There's a crapload of territory in the US to visit and the scenery differs wildly from one part of the country to the other(arctic, to desert, to tropics). It's little wonder most USers don't see a reason to leave the country when there's so much to see inside of it with less hassles involved.
I think the different with the US is that it's easy to break out of your social caste. For example, a girl I know has parents that are immigrants, they used to be orange pickers but work in a factory now. She's about to enter grad school for materials engineering and gets extremely good grades. When she graduates, she'll be doing very well for herself.
Really, anyone in the US can do well for themselves with enough effort and drive.
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No, it still requires mongrel. And mongrel still doesn't know how to fork or thread.
And you know, some of us are far more interested in "a free exchange of ideas and code that let you do what ever you wanted with it" than in some convulted ideology where "freedom" is redefined as something restrictive.
I see this all the time and you know what, Stallman used to be part of that exact same type of freedom in the 70's. Then the companies took the code(Unix), closed it up and shut everyone out. That's why he created the GPL and preaches his ideology.
Free speech doesn't apply to private property like Slashdot.
> # Archival attributes: we will still be able to read in 100 years, but we might not be able to open DRM protected files.
I don't think the current books will last that long, actually. The paper is pretty cheap stuff. I like the idea of a device like a Kindle, I'd just want something more open to where I can transfer stuff around on it. That way when I buy a book, I can keep it around forever and move it from device to device.
Several years back I bought a video card from Best Buy only to have the wrong card in the box. Took it back and they wouldn't do an exchange, told me to deal with the manufacturer. After going back and forth between the manufacturer and Best Buy I even had the manager at Best Buy admiting it was problably tampered with at their store, but he still wouldn't exchange it.
So I disputed the charges and my bank reversed the payment.
So say Vonage goes belly up in a few months... does anyone know of similair VOIP solutions? There's no way I'm going back to a telco land line.
It's familiar to people who are used to working with Red Hat.
One huge limiting factor in using EC2 was the lack of solid hardware for back end databases. Looks like that's no longer an issue.
Now if we could just get static IP addresses, ability the assign PTRs and persistent on disk storage we could completely do away with our data center.
Compatibility with new hardware is a big reason. The other reason is that the stable Ubuntus have much more recent software than the stable Debians. It's sort of a blessing and a curse though.
I run Debian on my personal server and love that it never changes, but at work I need to use Ubuntu for some of the more recent packages it comes with.
If I buy services from a company and they fail to deliver, I have choices. Like suing them (example: breach of contract) and recovering damages.
I'd love to see examples where this has actually happened. Commercial software companies fail to deliver at the time. It's routine. And yet it's always the admins and the users in the company that bought it that end up having to "pay" for it.
For Ubuntu and Debian, I'd recommend they just give Microsoft 5% of all the profit they make off selling Linux to customers.
His reasons are pretty lame.
The biggest issue I'm having with rails is its lack of scaling due to a horrid threading model. We run mongrel, which can accept multiple requests per mongrel but only process one at a time due to Rails not being thread safe. So you end up having to run many many instances of mongrel on seperate ports to accept incoming requests. This wouldn't bo so bad, but the preferred methods of sending traffic to these mongrels(apache mod_proxy_balancer is what we use) have NO idea what the back end mongrels are doing. It'll happily send requests to busy mongrels when you have free ones doing absolutely nothing.
They only reason I'd want an iPod is because my car's stereo has an iPod connector(Toyota Scion). I don't know if other players out there have the same type of connector though. I'd definitely go with one of them over an iPod if they did.
The only difference between Sun, Apple and Microsoft is that Sun and Apple want to be as big as Microsoft, but aren't. None of them give a crap about the consumer and all are completely happy to walk over anyone/anything that gets in their way.
I'd sooner trust MS than Apple, because at least everyone hates MS, is looking over their shoulder and isn't giving them any leeway the moment some stench heads out from their corporate HQ.
Go one of 2 routes:
1> Instancing of all areas, ala Guild Wars style.
2> Select your character, THEN choose your server, ala FPS game style.
You solve two issues, it's easier to scale up when your game gets popular(no character migrations off of heavy servers to deal with) and it's easy to scale down when the game starts to die off(no annoying server merges).
But on the downside you can't charge people $25 to move their character just so they can play with their friends.
And in the GPL version, the boy gave away the seeds but on the condition that people had to give away the seeds from their tree for free as well and pass on the same conditions.
The GPL camp takes code from the BSD camp and the BSD camp is not able to merge those changes back into BSD code.
And that's the inherant problem with the BSD license, people can mod your code and not give it back to you.
The complaint here is about the hypocrisy of the GPL camp, who claim that they don't want anyone to use their code without giving back the changes, but then turn around and do just that to the BSD people's code.
There's no hypocrisy in that. Anyone can use the changes that where GPL'd, but you just have to adhere to the GPL license for those changes. The hyprocisy is the BSD camp saying "be free to use our code any way you want" and when people take them up on the offer, they complain.
Who's going to follow up on it and why?
Whoever owns the software in order to protect their copyright claims. The Free Software Foundation recommends that GPL authors assign the copyright over to them, just for these reasons. They actively pursue copyright claims.
Who's going to pay for the lawyers to do so?
The FSF has lawyers on staff and people like me, who pay yearly dues to the FSF, pay for these lawyers.
Is there *any* money to be made? Even enough to pay for those lawyers?
No clue, but you could email the FSF to find out.
Are you just penalizing the "spirit" of the GPL by making it a legal battle rather than letting the code proliferate?
That's the point. The code here isn't proliferating. This is a corporate company distributing pirated software for their own gains. It'd be like Microsoft including Photoshop in Windows without paying licensing to Adobe.
The GPL isn't about free code, it's about keeping the code free.
The problem is that hardware manufacturers target Windows, so the support there is steller and it Linux is usually playing catchup. Though when the hardware is older, the support can actually be better than what Windows provides. I've seen more issues with installing Windows from scratch than with Linux.
Pre-installed Linux systems(like from Dell) solve this for now and if more companies do this you'll see better hardware support because manufacturers will target Linux to please companies like Dell.
Linux runs pretty well on the Macbook Pro's: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
I have mine setup to dual boot using boot camp. I'd like to eliminate OS X altogether though and I think people have found ways to use grub instead of boot camp. I gave up my 30in monitor before I had a chance to get Linux to work with it, but it should work on it fine using Xinerama. It'd take a bit of tweaking of the xorg.conf though, you won't be able to just plug it in and go with it yet.
Also check out the Apple Intel Ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=211
Replication is a pretty big requirement for a lot of where MySQL is being used. I really haven't looked into PostgreSQL, have heard great things about it, but wouldn't consider it if I couldn't cluster it.
* Perfect desktop acceleration right out of the box with the user having to touch NOTHING to get it to work
/Applications or something similar
Acceleration works perfectly right out of the box on any pre-install Linux hardware purchase, which is what Apple does. Force you to purchase the OS pre-installed on their hardware.
* Application packages in
My Applications are under the Appliactions menu, thank you. I don't have to bring up a 3rd application(Finder) to get to them.
* Full drag and drop application installation and removal
Synaptic is much superior to that. If I want Open Office I don't have to go to the Open Office website, find the download area, find the right version, click to download, click again to install, and then from there on keep doing the same for updates.
It's run Synaptic, search for office apps, find the one I want and click install. It'll even check for updates from them on without me having to even run Synaptic or Open Office itself.
* OS X level or font rendering support right out of the box
My fonts look as good on my Linux PC as on my Mac.
* Complete set of iApp replacements - same visual polish and features sets as Apple has - plug in a digital camera, it just works
Plugging in my digital camera "just works" under Linux. Beryl looks better than anything Mac currently has and Linux has had virtual desktop support in it for ages. I don't have to download a 3rd part app for it.
* And the thousands of other things that make buying a commercial desktop worth the money
How about 28,000 free software packages available in my software installer?
What's that Redhat? That would actually require work and lots of hard choices?
I'm forced to use a Mac for work and I've found the user experience to be lacking, has less of the type software I use and is much less compatible with 3rd party hardware. It's an OS with all the vendor lockin of Windows, with none of the benefits of having the entire software/hardware market targeting it.
How many people say, from France/Germany, actually travel outside of Europe? Does it make Europeans sheltered if they don't visit Africa, Asia or the Americas?
There's a crapload of territory in the US to visit and the scenery differs wildly from one part of the country to the other(arctic, to desert, to tropics). It's little wonder most USers don't see a reason to leave the country when there's so much to see inside of it with less hassles involved.
I think the different with the US is that it's easy to break out of your social caste. For example, a girl I know has parents that are immigrants, they used to be orange pickers but work in a factory now. She's about to enter grad school for materials engineering and gets extremely good grades. When she graduates, she'll be doing very well for herself.
Really, anyone in the US can do well for themselves with enough effort and drive.
If the IRS wants to tax gold earned in WoW, then just pay them with WoW gold :)