Except that and make up your own damn mind. That's why you have one is not at all condescending.
It is immediately preceded by I'm not telling you that you should believe it. Learn the facts, and the origins behind the facts,...
He does not want his statements to substitute for your thinking. He doesn't want people going around blindly following what he says, only to find that it does not work for them in their particular situation. I can't see how this can be construed as anything other than asking people to keep their independence of thought (and choice). I mean that is why we use free software, right? Freedom of choice.
I understand that it is probably good for Novell to not rock the boat too much rught away. But, can someone with a little more market savvy explain what is in Novell's best interest in the long run? Give the users lots of choices with loose integration? or eliminate some of those choices and work on more tightly integrated line?
Well done to Microsoft, they're showing greater care to their clients, better than some Linux companies are doing at the moment. One thing Microsoft does offer you is good, free support, and when Linux ('Free OS') is charging for their product, and then updates and support are costly, it isn't a way to make friends.
OK. Who modded this up?
MS may "support" their customers in the sense that they still provide security updates, but they sure don't give free tech support. No one should be expected to give free tech support anyway.
The issue is that GNU/Linux have the ability to switch to a different distro, or support their own obselete software via access to the source code. With Windows you are *totally* dependent on MS. There is no way around that. Add to that, at the point the computer industry is right now (GNU/Linux getting ready to make a serious entry on the desktop) if MS refuses to bend over backwards for their victims, they could stand to lose a huge market share to tho competition.
If I'm not mistaken Longhorn (next Windows) will even have a shell like interface (something other than the command prompt), so perhaps shell scripting will have some sort of a ressurection in the following years.
Of course, this will prompt MS to claim to have "invented" or "innovated" shell scripting.
I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year...
You can always put it off for another year. Eventually you just have to take the plunge and buy it, realizing that you will kick yourself in 6 months when the same product is available for 25 - 50% less. But if you keep putting it off, you'll never buy anything.
if you are _custom_ building a cabinet would you care about "physical specifications that racks and cabinets must conform to"? I find this confusing. Isn't the point just to build what you need for the equipment you have???
If he buys a new a 1U or 2U box later, he probably wants it to fit in his rack.
Remeber being a kid and playing some game (like baseball or soccer)? What happened when someone really screwed up? or did something thinking they were allowed? You called "do over!!!"
That is the solution. On Monday morning, all of the trading managers go out on the floor, and start off the day by yelling "do over!!!" Every trader's account is reset to its pre-Friday state, and everyone is happy. Duh, it's so simple.
Does anyone know if this new kernel will support nVidia's nforce2 motherboard? I have it and use the integrated ethernet adapter, but I can't it to work in Linux. It'd be nice to see support for it compiled into a kernel perhaps, or maybe offered as an easier-to-use module. I'm a total newbie, but the learning curve is somewhat steep.
nVidia released a patch for 2.4.20 (with extremeley detailed instrurtions) for the AGP support, and it is the main tree since 2.4.22. The ethernet module (binary only) works on 2.4.x kernels and there are patches for 2.5.x and 2.6.x to get the module into the new format.
Someone has started working on the forcedeth driver (totally clean open source implementation nForce2 ethernet driver), but wihtout nVidia's specs or help, it will be slow going. The solution is to use nVidia's binary module, or to email/write a letter to nVidia telling them that you won't purchase anymore of their products until they release the code/specs for the nForce2.
Seeing as HP has lots of support for Linux (mostly enterprise, but you can buy some of their desktop models with Mandrake preinstalled), maybe they will push to have a Linux version. Here's to hoping...
You could create the cure for cancer and some asshole would try to shoot it down just because it's there.
Yup. Some researchers in Texas think they have discovered the cure for cancer. We have drug patents and HMOs in the US, which (in my eyes) is just as bad as shooting it down.
Let's do a lookup.. hey.. it seems to be an AOL modem-pool". Company goes to police, policy goes to judge, police show credible evidence that a crime was committed, judge gives warrant, AOL gives info (login account or the phonenumber that was dialed in from) on who was logged in at that time on that modem in that modempool. Police goes to address, takes laptop, returns it to Fred, jails crook. Fred: "1337!".
Thanks to the DMCA, they can probably skip 3 or 4 of those steps and just demand the info directly from AOL (with no judicial or LE oversight) and then raid the guy themselves.
Were he pirating music, that is probably what would have happened.
With all the recent security issues surrounding open source (Debian, anyone), I would think twice about using open source in my data center.
Please get a clue. The Debian compromise was because of a lost password. Every OS/App is equally vulnerabne to this.
When it comes to centralized management of your IT assets, Microsoft products are unbeatable. An excellent reason to be an MS only shop, IMHO.
Now I get it, you're trolling. MS may have some good tools, if you need point-and-drool and don't try to do anything the system or tool was not explicitly designed to do.
In my case, I admin a research lab with 12 workstations and two servers, all running GNU/Linux. I spend no more than 15 minutes per week on routine admin tasks, all of it from home. I can also remotely install any software the researchers need. The only reason I ever need to physically go there is to replenish the office supplies (toner, paper, bsank CDs). That sort of a setup would be difficult, if not impossible, with an MS-only setup.
How about a non-MS or non-proprietary format? Seriously, I am not trying to troll. As much as people gripe about how bad and inferior all MS formats are, I sure do see lots of WMA and WMV all over the place.
I know he's one of the worst people in high places, but I think this is a good thing. He's not invading peoples privacy or instituting some terrible law, he's actually helping people.
I agree. Even better: if they can publicly show that these people's rights were actually preserved, I would be very impressed.
The typical reaction is that Linux sounds hard to use. And you know what? They're kind of right. Try explaining to most people -- even the science geeks I work with -- about shared library conflicts, or explaining to them why cut and paste doesn't have consistent behavior.
Why should anyone bother explaining to these folks shared library conflicts and flaky cut/paste behavior? The two problems exist in Windows, yet everyone mysteriously accepts it under Windows and cries about it in Linux.
Siprnet is rather closely watched, computers are audited for unauthorized applications, people get in serious trouble for installing unauthorized software on a secure network machine. It isnt connected to the internet. Ever.
You sir, are either ignorant or full of it. Not only is SIPRNET connected to the regular net, so are other more highly classified networks. Don't believe me? Go ask anyone that has worked in a SCIF for more than a year how many times their MS systems (on the "secure" network") have gone down becuase of viruses.
Time is the only truly finite resource from a human perspective. As technology has progressed, distances have been conquered, vast energies harnessed, but old Father Time is still inescapable.
It seems that at least one person claims to have conquered time.
This is kind of a double edged sword. Now that you can use NDIS drivers under Linux, it will be that much harder to convince these companies that providing a native Linux driver would be good for their business...
If you are in the market for one of these cards, buy from a company that supports your OS of choice...
I completely agree. It's quite obvious that tech is about market share and mind share--gettimg everyone to adopt your product. If people buy your product, you are doing sowething right. If people buy competing products, the companies will figure it out and adjust their strategy.
Most of these companies are more than capable. Look at IBM: in the presentation that was referenced here on/. (now offline because IBM clamis it was not for public release) the presenter essentially brags about how IBM has like 15 or 25,000 linux workstations deployed company-wide. If everybody quit buying from them and started buying laptops and desktops preintsalled with Linux (single- or dual-boot) from their competitors and then telling them about it, they would harness some of that know-how and start selling and supporting it on consumer-level hardware.
Microsoft doesn't have a history of raising prices after driving off competitors; they're usually content to just rule marketshare and continue sales as usual. But they do have a tendency to use their clout to cut others out in deals.
Are you nuts? If MS didn't raise their prices you could still get Office and Windows for $25/each (plus inflation over the last 10 years, which is not 2000%)
Not trolling: Go install Fedora and see how it runs on a three year old machine. There's quite a lot of work to do.
Not trolling: Go install Debian Sid on a 7 year old Pentium Pro 200 w/ 64 MB RAM. With a lightweight window manager like WindowMaker, even apps like Mozzilla Firebird and Abiword are reasonably responsive. There you go: cutting edge apps that run well on obsolete hardware.
"Alarm is sent to parents when device is carried outside of prescribed zone." Uh, won't that simply teach children to set the device down before wandering off?
I don't care what it teaches kids, as long as my "Big Brother" doesn't give me one of these things for my birthday or otherwise force me to carry it around.
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SCO to IBM: "Hold on a sec while I go and steal something from this guy so I can say you stole it from me."
I bet that will fly.
Except that and make up your own damn mind. That's why you have one is not at all condescending.
It is immediately preceded by I'm not telling you that you should believe it. Learn the facts, and the origins behind the facts, ...
He does not want his statements to substitute for your thinking. He doesn't want people going around blindly following what he says, only to find that it does not work for them in their particular situation. I can't see how this can be construed as anything other than asking people to keep their independence of thought (and choice). I mean that is why we use free software, right? Freedom of choice.
I understand that it is probably good for Novell to not rock the boat too much rught away. But, can someone with a little more market savvy explain what is in Novell's best interest in the long run? Give the users lots of choices with loose integration? or eliminate some of those choices and work on more tightly integrated line?
the cause of the leak in the International Space Station has been found and fixed.
I can't seem to find the link for the patch on kernel.org. Someone want to point me in the right direction?
Well done to Microsoft, they're showing greater care to their clients, better than some Linux companies are doing at the moment. One thing Microsoft does offer you is good, free support, and when Linux ('Free OS') is charging for their product, and then updates and support are costly, it isn't a way to make friends.
OK. Who modded this up?
MS may "support" their customers in the sense that they still provide security updates, but they sure don't give free tech support. No one should be expected to give free tech support anyway.
The issue is that GNU/Linux have the ability to switch to a different distro, or support their own obselete software via access to the source code. With Windows you are *totally* dependent on MS. There is no way around that. Add to that, at the point the computer industry is right now (GNU/Linux getting ready to make a serious entry on the desktop) if MS refuses to bend over backwards for their victims, they could stand to lose a huge market share to tho competition.
If I'm not mistaken Longhorn (next Windows) will even have a shell like interface (something other than the command prompt), so perhaps shell scripting will have some sort of a ressurection in the following years.
Of course, this will prompt MS to claim to have "invented" or "innovated" shell scripting.
I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ...
You can always put it off for another year. Eventually you just have to take the plunge and buy it, realizing that you will kick yourself in 6 months when the same product is available for 25 - 50% less. But if you keep putting it off, you'll never buy anything.
if you are _custom_ building a cabinet would you care about "physical specifications that racks and cabinets must conform to"? I find this confusing. Isn't the point just to build what you need for the equipment you have???
If he buys a new a 1U or 2U box later, he probably wants it to fit in his rack.
Remeber being a kid and playing some game (like baseball or soccer)? What happened when someone really screwed up? or did something thinking they were allowed? You called "do over!!!"
That is the solution. On Monday morning, all of the trading managers go out on the floor, and start off the day by yelling "do over!!!" Every trader's account is reset to its pre-Friday state, and everyone is happy. Duh, it's so simple.
Does anyone know if this new kernel will support nVidia's nforce2 motherboard? I have it and use the integrated ethernet adapter, but I can't it to work in Linux. It'd be nice to see support for it compiled into a kernel perhaps, or maybe offered as an easier-to-use module. I'm a total newbie, but the learning curve is somewhat steep.
nVidia released a patch for 2.4.20 (with extremeley detailed instrurtions) for the AGP support, and it is the main tree since 2.4.22. The ethernet module (binary only) works on 2.4.x kernels and there are patches for 2.5.x and 2.6.x to get the module into the new format.
Someone has started working on the forcedeth driver (totally clean open source implementation nForce2 ethernet driver), but wihtout nVidia's specs or help, it will be slow going. The solution is to use nVidia's binary module, or to email/write a letter to nVidia telling them that you won't purchase anymore of their products until they release the code/specs for the nForce2.
Seeing as HP has lots of support for Linux (mostly enterprise, but you can buy some of their desktop models with Mandrake preinstalled), maybe they will push to have a Linux version. Here's to hoping ...
You could create the cure for cancer and some asshole would try to shoot it down just because it's there.
Yup. Some researchers in Texas think they have discovered the cure for cancer. We have drug patents and HMOs in the US, which (in my eyes) is just as bad as shooting it down.
Let's do a lookup.. hey.. it seems to be an AOL modem-pool". Company goes to police, policy goes to judge, police show credible evidence that a crime was committed, judge gives warrant, AOL gives info (login account or the phonenumber that was dialed in from) on who was logged in at that time on that modem in that modempool. Police goes to address, takes laptop, returns it to Fred, jails crook. Fred: "1337!".
Thanks to the DMCA, they can probably skip 3 or 4 of those steps and just demand the info directly from AOL (with no judicial or LE oversight) and then raid the guy themselves.
Were he pirating music, that is probably what would have happened.
Is ARIA what you get when you rot-13 encrypt RIAA? Wait, did I just violate the DMCA by saying that? Better go get my tinfoil hat.
With all the recent security issues surrounding open source (Debian, anyone), I would think twice about using open source in my data center.
Please get a clue. The Debian compromise was because of a lost password. Every OS/App is equally vulnerabne to this.
When it comes to centralized management of your IT assets, Microsoft products are unbeatable. An excellent reason to be an MS only shop, IMHO.
Now I get it, you're trolling. MS may have some good tools, if you need point-and-drool and don't try to do anything the system or tool was not explicitly designed to do.
In my case, I admin a research lab with 12 workstations and two servers, all running GNU/Linux. I spend no more than 15 minutes per week on routine admin tasks, all of it from home. I can also remotely install any software the researchers need. The only reason I ever need to physically go there is to replenish the office supplies (toner, paper, bsank CDs). That sort of a setup would be difficult, if not impossible, with an MS-only setup.
Running time: 17minutes 47seconds. Filesize : 157MB. Format: WMV.
How about a non-MS or non-proprietary format? Seriously, I am not trying to troll. As much as people gripe about how bad and inferior all MS formats are, I sure do see lots of WMA and WMV all over the place.
I know he's one of the worst people in high places, but I think this is a good thing. He's not invading peoples privacy or instituting some terrible law, he's actually helping people.
I agree. Even better: if they can publicly show that these people's rights were actually preserved, I would be very impressed.
The typical reaction is that Linux sounds hard to use. And you know what? They're kind of right. Try explaining to most people -- even the science geeks I work with -- about shared library conflicts, or explaining to them why cut and paste doesn't have consistent behavior.
Why should anyone bother explaining to these folks shared library conflicts and flaky cut/paste behavior? The two problems exist in Windows, yet everyone mysteriously accepts it under Windows and cries about it in Linux.
Siprnet is rather closely watched, computers are audited for unauthorized applications, people get in serious trouble for installing unauthorized software on a secure network machine. It isnt connected to the internet. Ever.
You sir, are either ignorant or full of it. Not only is SIPRNET connected to the regular net, so are other more highly classified networks. Don't believe me? Go ask anyone that has worked in a SCIF for more than a year how many times their MS systems (on the "secure" network") have gone down becuase of viruses.
Time is the only truly finite resource from a human perspective. As technology has progressed, distances have been conquered, vast energies harnessed, but old Father Time is still inescapable.
It seems that at least one person claims to have conquered time.
This is kind of a double edged sword. Now that you can use NDIS drivers under Linux, it will be that much harder to convince these companies that providing a native Linux driver would be good for their business...
If you are in the market for one of these cards, buy from a company that supports your OS of choice...
I completely agree. It's quite obvious that tech is about market share and mind share--gettimg everyone to adopt your product. If people buy your product, you are doing sowething right. If people buy competing products, the companies will figure it out and adjust their strategy.
Most of these companies are more than capable. Look at IBM: in the presentation that was referenced here on /. (now offline because IBM clamis it was not for public release) the presenter essentially brags about how IBM has like 15 or 25,000 linux workstations deployed company-wide. If everybody quit buying from them and started buying laptops and desktops preintsalled with Linux (single- or dual-boot) from their competitors and then telling them about it, they would harness some of that know-how and start selling and supporting it on consumer-level hardware.
Microsoft doesn't have a history of raising prices after driving off competitors; they're usually content to just rule marketshare and continue sales as usual. But they do have a tendency to use their clout to cut others out in deals.
Are you nuts? If MS didn't raise their prices you could still get Office and Windows for $25/each (plus inflation over the last 10 years, which is not 2000%)
Developers IS a multi-syllable word, after all.
Wouldn't that be "non-monosyllabic?"
Not trolling: Go install Fedora and see how it runs on a three year old machine. There's quite a lot of work to do.
Not trolling: Go install Debian Sid on a 7 year old Pentium Pro 200 w/ 64 MB RAM. With a lightweight window manager like WindowMaker, even apps like Mozzilla Firebird and Abiword are reasonably responsive. There you go: cutting edge apps that run well on obsolete hardware.
"Alarm is sent to parents when device is carried outside of prescribed zone." Uh, won't that simply teach children to set the device down before wandering off?
I don't care what it teaches kids, as long as my "Big Brother" doesn't give me one of these things for my birthday or otherwise force me to carry it around.
Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat?