Fyodor actually *DOES* host the installer. He never gave them permission to repackage it. In fact, the software license prohibits this explicitly.
From the article:
"This is exactly why Nmap isn't under the plain GPL. Our license (http://nmap.org/book/man-legal.html) specifically adds a clause forbidding software which "integrates/includes/aggregates Nmap into a proprietary executable installer" unless that software itself conforms to various GPL requirements (this proprietary C|Net download.com software and the toolbar don't)."
So yeah, I can blame them. If you read the fucking article you would know this.
p.s. Yes, I said that the parent should have read the article. No, I am not new here, but that doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, should tolerate willfully uninformed bullshit spouting.
Actually, I am fairly certain that the
mainstream AV name is Bagle simple because
they wanted to irk the virus writers. I wish I could remember the source of that information.
Let me get this straight... California, a state that cannot and/or will not stop and/or track the illegal immegrants who are in violation of federal laws, proposes to track every single vehicle in the state?
Um...ok
I cannot seem to find a good list of the vulerabilites found in SuSe Enterprise Linux 9, which he is comparing to Win2003. I wonder how many vulerabilites are in non-core applications, which would make comparing Windows 2003, the OS, with SuSE EL 9.0 a little unbalanced. Does anyone have a link to the SEL 9.0 vuln list so that we can compare for ourselves?
Simply removing administrative rights is not enough. In our environment our users are not allowed to have admin, but they still get malware / adware. They are specifically coded not to need it to function. We see it all the time. All the spyware needs for basic functionality is the ability to execute, access to the network and access to either the Run key for the user or the user's Startup folder. You don't have to be admin for any of that.
WoodSmoke
IMHO, the only way a tax could work is if they provided an alternative, similar, value-added service to replace email that would have the tax. I think there are already companies who provide spam filtering for a charge, which would accomplish the same thing without introducing Big Brother fears. This is a waste of MY tax dollars and the time of MY employees, the US Government.
Why the hell is it that when you documented proof of torture and murder of innocent civilians nobody believes or care but when the US attacks the military structure we are automaticly killing babies and women. Please show the proof or shut the fuck up.
The same justificiation that we are using now: That Iraq has blatantly and repeatedly violated UN Sanctions and broken the agreement it signed as its part of the ceasefire at the end of the original Gulf War.
The weakness in the EFS arguement is the fact that local admin can recover the user's encrypted files. The weakest link then becomes the admin account. I have a linux boot floppy (and cd) that can reset the local admin password on a WinNT 4.0 or Win 2k system. After rebooting the system belongs to me.
As you say, sensitive information should be stored elsewhere and physical access should be controled.
If I can reset the admin account, and the end user does not catch me I can keylog or trojan the computer. At that point I own anything they own. If the GINA on Windows is replaced with a trojaned version then all credentials can be captured as it is alive and listening during the Winlogon process.
I have to agree with this. I think immediate vulnerability release is not a responsible way to handle things if security is your ultimate goal. It is my **opinion** that companies should be warned and given the option to provide a complete, stable, tested fix. I do, however, support public disclosure if the company decides that it can't be bothered to protect the very people that justify its existance.
In every case that I have heard of the crops are still alive but the stalks are bent, not broken.
The Discovery Channel had a show on this a while back and did an interview with a group of guys who were making circles. The amount of work that went into designing and figuring out how the implement them was impressive. They were also pretty fast at making them once they had it figured out.
The question is: Did they invent them or reverse engineer them?
The Germans started with tear gas and moved Chlorine gas when the temperatures cause problems with the vaporization process.
Here is my "opinion" about our war with Japan:
1. ANY loss of civilian life is tragic and should be avoided.
2. If I remember correctly, they started the conflict with us not vice versa.
3. If you kick a bear in the ass, and then proceed to cut at him with a sword, don't bitch when he uses his claws.
4. Had those 2 nukes not been used the loss of life, on both sides, would have be much higher. The amount of lives already lost was staggering.
In 2000 our largest suppliers of Oil were Canada,Venezuela, and Mexico, in that order. I think it would be cheaper to buy from them than to expend billions and risk thousands of lives to fight a war with Iraq. If you toss in the political and religous backlash over this issue it becomes even less attractive.
All in all I still think the original poster that I replied too has his head in the sand.
FACT: During the weapons inspections iin the mid 90s enough Antrax and chemical weapons were found to kill the worlds population 3 times over.
FACT: At the time this was found, Iraq said that it had NONE.
FACT: Iraq is the only country to have used Nerve agents/gas in combat. (vs Iran) The effects are still being seen today.
FACT: Saddam ordered the gassing of his own citizens in Northern Iraq.
FACT: Iraq consisently denied a Nuclear weapons program throughout the 90s until the former head of said program defected and laid the evidence before the world.
FACT: During the inspections in the mid 90s, inspectors caught Iraqi officials in the act of driving parts of a Calutron out the back entrance of a facility as the inspectors came in the front. Calutrons are used to refine materials for nuclear reactions.
Also, see the following link Cdi.org for more information.
If you have information that contradicts that posted above then please provide it. If not, then please accept the fact that Saddam is not the cuddly teddy bear some would make him out to be.
FYI: EuroSeti has already dismissed this as overexposer on the CCD camera. It was a 3rd party, (the ufo magazine I "think") that took the issue and ran with it.
Actually if the license is OEM you cannot clone from machine to machine. If you have a Enterprise license you can do this. I do not know about single, "store bought" copies.
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Fyodor actually *DOES* host the installer. He never gave them permission to repackage it. In fact, the software license prohibits this explicitly. From the article: "This is exactly why Nmap isn't under the plain GPL. Our license (http://nmap.org/book/man-legal.html) specifically adds a clause forbidding software which "integrates/includes/aggregates Nmap into a proprietary executable installer" unless that software itself conforms to various GPL requirements (this proprietary C|Net download.com software and the toolbar don't)." So yeah, I can blame them. If you read the fucking article you would know this. p.s. Yes, I said that the parent should have read the article. No, I am not new here, but that doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, should tolerate willfully uninformed bullshit spouting.
Great, someone went and invented replicators.... we are screwed, SG1 would probably be too busy to save us...
Actually, I am fairly certain that the mainstream AV name is Bagle simple because they wanted to irk the virus writers. I wish I could remember the source of that information.
Has anyone seen a list of patent violations in the linux kernel? Did I miss it somewhere? To be blunt, put up or shut up.
Let me get this straight... California, a state that cannot and/or will not stop and/or track the illegal immegrants who are in violation of federal laws, proposes to track every single vehicle in the state? Um...ok
I cannot seem to find a good list of the vulerabilites found in SuSe Enterprise Linux 9, which he is comparing to Win2003. I wonder how many vulerabilites are in non-core applications, which would make comparing Windows 2003, the OS, with SuSE EL 9.0 a little unbalanced. Does anyone have a link to the SEL 9.0 vuln list so that we can compare for ourselves?
assuming that no other design, cache or backbus changes were made....
Simply removing administrative rights is not enough. In our environment our users are not allowed to have admin, but they still get malware / adware. They are specifically coded not to need it to function. We see it all the time. All the spyware needs for basic functionality is the ability to execute, access to the network and access to either the Run key for the user or the user's Startup folder. You don't have to be admin for any of that. WoodSmoke
Just my 2 cents worth
WoodSmoke
Why the hell is it that when you documented proof of torture and murder of innocent civilians nobody believes or care but when the US attacks the military structure we are automaticly killing babies and women. Please show the proof or shut the fuck up.
WoodSmoke
As you say, sensitive information should be stored elsewhere and physical access should be controled.
If I can reset the admin account, and the end user does not catch me I can keylog or trojan the computer. At that point I own anything they own. If the GINA on Windows is replaced with a trojaned version then all credentials can be captured as it is alive and listening during the Winlogon process.
WoodSmoke Just my 2 cp
WoodSmoke
Just my 2 cents.
WoodSmoke
The Discovery Channel had a show on this a while back and did an interview with a group of guys who were making circles. The amount of work that went into designing and figuring out how the implement them was impressive. They were also pretty fast at making them once they had it figured out.
The question is: Did they invent them or reverse engineer them?
WoodSmoke
And when the power goes off do you want it to fail open or fail closed? Woodsmoke
Here is my "opinion" about our war with Japan:
1. ANY loss of civilian life is tragic and should be avoided.
2. If I remember correctly, they started the conflict with us not vice versa.
3. If you kick a bear in the ass, and then proceed to cut at him with a sword, don't bitch when he uses his claws.
4. Had those 2 nukes not been used the loss of life, on both sides, would have be much higher. The amount of lives already lost was staggering.
In 2000 our largest suppliers of Oil were Canada,Venezuela, and Mexico, in that order. I think it would be cheaper to buy from them than to expend billions and risk thousands of lives to fight a war with Iraq. If you toss in the political and religous backlash over this issue it becomes even less attractive.
All in all I still think the original poster that I replied too has his head in the sand.
WoodSmoke
FACT: During the weapons inspections iin the mid 90s enough Antrax and chemical weapons were found to kill the worlds population 3 times over.
FACT: At the time this was found, Iraq said that it had NONE.
FACT: Iraq is the only country to have used Nerve agents/gas in combat. (vs Iran) The effects are still being seen today.
FACT: Saddam ordered the gassing of his own citizens in Northern Iraq.
FACT: Iraq consisently denied a Nuclear weapons program throughout the 90s until the former head of said program defected and laid the evidence before the world.
FACT: During the inspections in the mid 90s, inspectors caught Iraqi officials in the act of driving parts of a Calutron out the back entrance of a facility as the inspectors came in the front. Calutrons are used to refine materials for nuclear reactions.
Also, see the following link Cdi.org for more information.
If you have information that contradicts that posted above then please provide it. If not, then please accept the fact that Saddam is not the cuddly teddy bear some would make him out to be.
WoodSmoke
FYI: EuroSeti has already dismissed this as overexposer on the CCD camera. It was a 3rd party, (the ufo magazine I "think") that took the issue and ran with it.
Actually if the license is OEM you cannot clone from machine to machine. If you have a Enterprise license you can do this. I do not know about single, "store bought" copies.
WoodSmoke