Also, although it involves Linux the AutoZone case doesn't really have a lot of impact on the SCO vs IBM case. If they nicked the libraries, they nicked the libraries: it's irrelevent which OS they re-used them with.
The converse may not apply, of course. If it's proven that SCO don't own the IP, then AutoZone may not have a case to answer even if they did use libraries from UnixWare.
But imagine you're the child of one of these rabbit-like scroungers. It's not *your* fault that dad didn't "keep it in his pants." Failure to provide decent education just increases the liklihood that you end up the same.
I heard an interesting poece on BBC Radio 4 last year on this subject. (Sorry: no references.) They reckoned that people are used to 'phone calls being important: this would relate originally to land-line calls but has carried over so that a ot of folk also treat cell-phone calls as more imnportant than communication with people actually present. This is also part of the reason why 'phone use in cars seems to be equally distracting regardless of whether a hands-free kit of some sort is used or not, and more distracting than simply talking to passengers.
I imagine the younger generation, for whom 'phones are ubiquitous and trivial may cope with this better.
I don't know how true this is. I certainly only carry a cell-phone when I'm on call. Nobody's going to die if I don't get the call but it will inconvenience other people and could cost a lot of money if a critical server is unavailable for longer than necessary.
There are plenty of other non-life-threatening uses which might be called critical. How about the kid desperately trying to 'phone their parent because they've just totalled the car?
If you're desperate not to be disturbed, get a personal stereo. If you just want silence buy some ear-plugs. (The ones I normally use are just 1.25 for two pairs and are both comfortable and effective.)
For the smooth running of any society we must be prepared to put up with a little inconvenience and irritation.
It depends on what other features you want, but I think there are plenty of good 'phones around. I use a Nokia 6100, although it does appear that this model isn't available in the USA. (Which is odd, because it's triband, so it works OK.) There are plenty of other options, though: check www.nokia.com. Other suppliers also: I just happen to prefer Nokia.
I think you just need to look a little harder. Because the camera 'phones are the latest things they're the ones which are being pushed the hardest.
I've been using SuSE at home for a few years now. For me, Linux is not a hobby: I just want a functional OS that works out of the box and gives me a decent selection of tools and apps.
I get paid to deal with UNIX during the day: when I get home I just want my PC to work.
I'm quite happy to shell out that sort of money for SuSE. Apart from getting some decent manuals and a bit of support - not that I've needed it so far - it's worth it for the sheer convenience. My time is worth quite a lot to me!
To be quite honest I think that at least a basic knowledge of science ought to be expected. And this is very basic.
I don't know which is worse: the ignorance of those involved or their lack of discrimination.
One of the things which helped me a great deal was my first summer job, when I was 15. I worked for a couple of months in a small engineering works, servicing electric motors, pumps and the like. Interracting with adults in that way, every day, was highly beneficial and I returned to school with much more self-confidence.
Getting soome exercise is a good thing generally, but for social skills you'd be better off with a team game, or even something like squash or tennis where there's at least one other person to interract with.
The idea that IBM might learn something from UNIX V then implement that elsewhere is conceivable. This sort of thing is always a concern where IP is involved and one of the reasons IBM have publicised the internal walls between their Linux and AIX teams.
However, given IBM's rather lengthy experience with many other operating systems which they have incontestable IP rights to it would be difficult to prove that the ideas weren't already within IBM, independent of UNIX V and Dynix.
IBM, like any smart developer, have re-used plenty of existing knowledge. JFS2 is the widely known example in this context - originally written by IBM for OS/2, then ported to AIX 5.1 and Linux. But they've also taken a lot of stuff out of their mainframe operating systems - MVS (aka z/OS) and VM - for use elsewhere. Most of their memory management is derived from work on MVS. AIX's Workload Manager (WLM) again comes from MVS. PR/SM - mainframe partitioning - was taken from VM and I believe the knowledge gained from that was key to the development of their pSeries and iSeries partitioning with the Regatta hardware.
(I don't work for IBM and don't have access to source code, but I have worked with IBM operating systems for about 20 years, so I'd like to think I know a little about the subject.)
That's rather naive, although there are a few grains of truth in there.
IBM has historically been a hardware company, (now moving into services, but that's another matter). Consequently, the purpose of AIX was to drive hardware sales, at which it's done a pretty good job.
In the future, Linux may be able to serve the same purpose and so it may be in IBM's interests to drop AIX. However, until that time it is foolish to describe AIX as a "dead bird around (IBM's) neck".
Further, you may not be aware of this but the iSeries, (AS/400s) use substantially the same hardware as pSeries - even the latest Power4 Regatta technology. Clearly IBM have no objection to supporting two completely different operating systems for the same hardware if it helps to shift more boxes.
Finally, although there is a significant cost to IBM in supporting AIX, what makes you think it'll be any cheaper for them to support Linux on Power? Who but IBM is going to be able to support it on their latest and most expensive hardware? At the very least they'd have to invest a lot of money in making test servers available to Linux developers.
It's vital that employers pay for our time. Otherwise they just take it for granted and will abuse us; maybe not deliberately, but when you've been called two or three times a night, every night for a month it doesn't really matter. (I was the only UNIX admin at one place just after a complete migration from IBM MVS systems, courtesy of every other bastard leaving for greener pastures.)
I used to hate my 'phone (landline) but the cell-phone - and a proper, paid on-call rota - is wonderful. When I'm on-call, I am no-longer tied to the house. When I'm not on-call I can just turn the thing off. The stress-relief is immense.
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Landing on Mars is much more exciting than just orbiting, hence the hype. Check the details of the project, though and you'll find that Beagle 2 was quite definitely an afterthought. Colin whatsisname heard about Mars Express and saw an opportunity for a small lander to piggy-back it. He did a marvellous job in pulling everything together. Shame it didn't work.:-(
The problem of piling up a load of old junk around the ISS is that they'll be in very slightly different orbits. Without continual orbital adjustments there would be a very real risk of collisions.
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No. Mars Express was always the main mission.
Beagle 2 was a last-minute afterthought, built in a hurry, on a shoestring. It also had a very limited mass-budget, so that it could piggy-back on the same launcher.
People SPAM because there's money in it. Therefore it seems logical that simple financial penalties would be sufficient, if they're in suitable proportion to the profits made.
If the SPAMer is running a business, they should have records of earnings. Confiscate all of those earnings, plus, say, 25% and seize material assets which were misused. i.e. Their computer equipment and address database.
If they haven't adequately declared their income, throw them to the wolves of the IRS.
I'm not terribly bothered by the amount of SPAM I receive. Sure: it would be nice if it went away but most of it doesn't cause me any real inconvenience.
What DOES inconvenience me are the SPAMs which manage to evade my (admittedly primitive) filters. Therefore I would say that the use of techniques designed to do this should carry a high weighting.
Stuff like fraud and identity theft ought to be dealt with by existing criminal law, although up until recently a lot of police forces seem to have taken the view that anything Internet or otherwise computer-based is not covered by old-fashioned laws.
It could be due to some other cause, or just sheer chance, but the volume of SPAM attempting to get into my mailboxes has fallen by about 50% recently.
An important addition: many cash-strapped local authorities have used traffic cameras as an excuse to cut budgets to their police forces. Some forces no longer have a dedicated traffic section and all of them have been greatly reduced.
Cameras only detect speeding: not bad driving. Nor can they realise that 90mph on a deserted dual carraigeway is not terribly dangerous, but 50mph in dense fog is.
Motorists love to hate the traffic cops, but they do/did an important job.
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Also, although it involves Linux the AutoZone case doesn't really have a lot of impact on the SCO vs IBM case. If they nicked the libraries, they nicked the libraries: it's irrelevent which OS they re-used them with.
The converse may not apply, of course. If it's proven that SCO don't own the IP, then AutoZone may not have a case to answer even if they did use libraries from UnixWare.
But imagine you're the child of one of these rabbit-like scroungers. It's not *your* fault that dad didn't "keep it in his pants." Failure to provide decent education just increases the liklihood that you end up the same.
I heard an interesting poece on BBC Radio 4 last year on this subject. (Sorry: no references.) They reckoned that people are used to 'phone calls being important: this would relate originally to land-line calls but has carried over so that a ot of folk also treat cell-phone calls as more imnportant than communication with people actually present. This is also part of the reason why 'phone use in cars seems to be equally distracting regardless of whether a hands-free kit of some sort is used or not, and more distracting than simply talking to passengers.
I imagine the younger generation, for whom 'phones are ubiquitous and trivial may cope with this better.
I don't know how true this is. I certainly only carry a cell-phone when I'm on call. Nobody's going to die if I don't get the call but it will inconvenience other people and could cost a lot of money if a critical server is unavailable for longer than necessary.
There are plenty of other non-life-threatening uses which might be called critical. How about the kid desperately trying to 'phone their parent because they've just totalled the car?
If you're desperate not to be disturbed, get a personal stereo. If you just want silence buy some ear-plugs. (The ones I normally use are just 1.25 for two pairs and are both comfortable and effective.)
For the smooth running of any society we must be prepared to put up with a little inconvenience and irritation.
It depends on what other features you want, but I think there are plenty of good 'phones around. I use a Nokia 6100, although it does appear that this model isn't available in the USA. (Which is odd, because it's triband, so it works OK.) There are plenty of other options, though: check www.nokia.com. Other suppliers also: I just happen to prefer Nokia.
I think you just need to look a little harder. Because the camera 'phones are the latest things they're the ones which are being pushed the hardest.
I've been using SuSE at home for a few years now. For me, Linux is not a hobby: I just want a functional OS that works out of the box and gives me a decent selection of tools and apps.
I get paid to deal with UNIX during the day: when I get home I just want my PC to work.
I'm quite happy to shell out that sort of money for SuSE. Apart from getting some decent manuals and a bit of support - not that I've needed it so far - it's worth it for the sheer convenience. My time is worth quite a lot to me!
To be quite honest I think that at least a basic knowledge of science ought to be expected. And this is very basic.
I don't know which is worse: the ignorance of those involved or their lack of discrimination.
One of the things which helped me a great deal was my first summer job, when I was 15. I worked for a couple of months in a small engineering works, servicing electric motors, pumps and the like. Interracting with adults in that way, every day, was highly beneficial and I returned to school with much more self-confidence.
Getting soome exercise is a good thing generally, but for social skills you'd be better off with a team game, or even something like squash or tennis where there's at least one other person to interract with.
The idea that IBM might learn something from UNIX V then implement that elsewhere is conceivable. This sort of thing is always a concern where IP is involved and one of the reasons IBM have publicised the internal walls between their Linux and AIX teams.
However, given IBM's rather lengthy experience with many other operating systems which they have incontestable IP rights to it would be difficult to prove that the ideas weren't already within IBM, independent of UNIX V and Dynix.
IBM, like any smart developer, have re-used plenty of existing knowledge. JFS2 is the widely known example in this context - originally written by IBM for OS/2, then ported to AIX 5.1 and Linux. But they've also taken a lot of stuff out of their mainframe operating systems - MVS (aka z/OS) and VM - for use elsewhere. Most of their memory management is derived from work on MVS. AIX's Workload Manager (WLM) again comes from MVS. PR/SM - mainframe partitioning - was taken from VM and I believe the knowledge gained from that was key to the development of their pSeries and iSeries partitioning with the Regatta hardware.
(I don't work for IBM and don't have access to source code, but I have worked with IBM operating systems for about 20 years, so I'd like to think I know a little about the subject.)
There will NOT be a press release on this ruling, because the judge told both parties not to comment on it.
Since IBM have tended to keep quiet about things so far, this might be considered an indictment of SCO's PR policy.
Often, there'll be the offer of some booze as an incentive to people to attend with a show of willingness.
Of course, after a few beers you're that little bit more likely to tell your cow-orkers just how much you revere them.
To be boringly serious for a moment, if you don't already know the answer to that question you shouldn't be in the meeting.
Here's a more poisitive take on co-operation, courtesy of your European friends.
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That's rather naive, although there are a few grains of truth in there.
IBM has historically been a hardware company, (now moving into services, but that's another matter). Consequently, the purpose of AIX was to drive hardware sales, at which it's done a pretty good job.
In the future, Linux may be able to serve the same purpose and so it may be in IBM's interests to drop AIX. However, until that time it is foolish to describe AIX as a "dead bird around (IBM's) neck".
Further, you may not be aware of this but the iSeries, (AS/400s) use substantially the same hardware as pSeries - even the latest Power4 Regatta technology. Clearly IBM have no objection to supporting two completely different operating systems for the same hardware if it helps to shift more boxes.
Finally, although there is a significant cost to IBM in supporting AIX, what makes you think it'll be any cheaper for them to support Linux on Power? Who but IBM is going to be able to support it on their latest and most expensive hardware? At the very least they'd have to invest a lot of money in making test servers available to Linux developers.
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It's vital that employers pay for our time. Otherwise they just take it for granted and will abuse us; maybe not deliberately, but when you've been called two or three times a night, every night for a month it doesn't really matter. (I was the only UNIX admin at one place just after a complete migration from IBM MVS systems, courtesy of every other bastard leaving for greener pastures.)
I used to hate my 'phone (landline) but the cell-phone - and a proper, paid on-call rota - is wonderful. When I'm on-call, I am no-longer tied to the house. When I'm not on-call I can just turn the thing off. The stress-relief is immense.
Landing on Mars is much more exciting than just orbiting, hence the hype. Check the details of the project, though and you'll find that Beagle 2 was quite definitely an afterthought. :-(
Colin whatsisname heard about Mars Express and saw an opportunity for a small lander to piggy-back it. He did a marvellous job in pulling everything together. Shame it didn't work.
The problem of piling up a load of old junk around the ISS is that they'll be in very slightly different orbits. Without continual orbital adjustments there would be a very real risk of collisions.
No. Mars Express was always the main mission.
Beagle 2 was a last-minute afterthought, built in a hurry, on a shoestring. It also had a very limited mass-budget, so that it could piggy-back on the same launcher.
People SPAM because there's money in it. Therefore it seems logical that simple financial penalties would be sufficient, if they're in suitable proportion to the profits made.
If the SPAMer is running a business, they should have records of earnings. Confiscate all of those earnings, plus, say, 25% and seize material assets which were misused. i.e. Their computer equipment and address database.
If they haven't adequately declared their income, throw them to the wolves of the IRS.
I'm not terribly bothered by the amount of SPAM I receive. Sure: it would be nice if it went away but most of it doesn't cause me any real inconvenience.
What DOES inconvenience me are the SPAMs which manage to evade my (admittedly primitive) filters. Therefore I would say that the use of techniques designed to do this should carry a high weighting.
Stuff like fraud and identity theft ought to be dealt with by existing criminal law, although up until recently a lot of police forces seem to have taken the view that anything Internet or otherwise computer-based is not covered by old-fashioned laws.
It could be due to some other cause, or just sheer chance, but the volume of SPAM attempting to get into my mailboxes has fallen by about 50% recently.
An important addition: many cash-strapped local authorities have used traffic cameras as an excuse to cut budgets to their police forces. Some forces no longer have a dedicated traffic section and all of them have been greatly reduced.
Cameras only detect speeding: not bad driving. Nor can they realise that 90mph on a deserted dual carraigeway is not terribly dangerous, but 50mph in dense fog is.
Motorists love to hate the traffic cops, but they do/did an important job.